Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)(MSM8974PRO-AA)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
-Slippery
-SD card problem //fixed
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
If I'm right also oneplus x lacks in 800 Mhz LTE band
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No. Oneplus x for eu include band 20. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
I was thinking of getting the opx for a family member but I think the mi4c is better due to what you mentioned, bigger battery, Wi-Fi ac, USB C, ir blaster which is a bonus and the soc. Camera is very good and fast. Maybe wait for opx review with camera samples.
Custom roms may be slow but there is a cm12.1 rom which is a daily driver except a few minor bugs.
Touch problem was only there on the first ROM. All roms after that had no problems with it. We get weekly updates aswell but probably won't get official marshmallow soon (custom rom, 99% sure though), so you're pretty much set on the software part. I'd say the screen is very good, it has high contrast rates and looks very bright. You can control the saturation etc. so blue (cold) and warm colors is probably what they are reporting.
The advantage to OPX I'd see is band 20, it looks a bit better (just my opinion, but build quality is solid on both), has AMOLED and it has MicroSD.
I already have mi 4c and its better than even one plus two
One plus x is average phone.
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I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
geko95gek said:
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
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Apparently xiaomi release source a few months later? When it does, it will be the better phone.
I'd wait for camera samples so that way youll have an all rounder phone
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
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Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
andrew551 said:
Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
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If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
cowithgun said:
If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
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Agree. I pick Mi4C because once I spend money, I want to use hardware for as long as possible. Mi4C is more future ready with USB-C, WiFi-ac, 64bit compliance and cost. AMOLED is one thing that I'd miss but guess that's a minor negative.
shangxor said:
Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
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No tweaks but aggressively toggling settings like aeroplane mode when on my train journey to/from work (no reception), only turning sync on when I connect to WiFi and then only connecting to WiFi occasionally to check emails. No bluetooth, location (yes, locking on is buggy for me but can get it eventually)
I love my Mi4C, the power, the battery life, the design and the display is awesome (and its not blueish) before I'd buy One Plus X, I would rather buy a Xiaomi Mi4
I just wish the Mi 4c had either 64GB or SD card support as well as band 20, I don't care about NFC. If it had those it'd be the perfect phone for me!
The Mi 4c is superior but if you really need band 20 e. g. you instead have to use 2G there's no way around the one plus x
either way both are solid phones
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
geko95gek said:
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
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Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
ermacwins said:
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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Totally agree
ermacwins said:
Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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I guess but at least OP have a global division where RMA and warranty issues get handled. Which is so much better than importing a phone yourself and then having to send it back to China if something goes wrong.
I know what you mean about he plastics, I've had 2 Xiaomi devices myself before. 1 of which was plastic, and it felt alright but if I have a choice I'd always avoid any type of plastic.
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hi guys so thought of opening this thread to see ur openions on reasons to get the new Note and if its worth buying for you
for me i would defently get it and my reasons are
Big screen
S-pen
Leather back and beautiful design
and i think the new battery will be a lot lot better than my S3's
I have only one reason, to give me as a christmas gift the Note 3-> i'am on a HOX now
my reason is simple "because my note1 is old and start to make problems"
I am very interested in the Note 3 if the battery shows it can get a full day's use in a single charge. My RAZR Maxx HD has spoiled me... I don't need 48 hours but I do need around 16 hours with heavy usage - 4 to 5+ hours of screen on time.
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The Note 3 should get around 5-7 hours on screen time easily.
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Hardcore73 said:
The Note 3 should get around 5-7 hours on screen time easily.
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Can't wait to see some screenshots of that....
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I am very interested in the Note 3 if the battery shows it can get a full day's use in a single charge.
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I think the extra four hours of video playback that Samsung quoted at the launch event are going to turn out to be true. Not because of some Samsung wizardry or a slightly larger battery but because of the efficiency of S-800. Here are some excerpts from Anandtech's battery review of the S-800 LG G2. Samsung's better with s/w than LG so I'd expect even better performance from the N3. Obviously comparing a LCD and AMOLED panel 1:1 isn't appropriate and typically AMOLED does better on dark colors (video) and LCD does better on light colors (web browsing). But the percentage gains Brian talks about in the review comparing the similar G1<>G2 should apply to the N2<>N3; maybe even more so because Exynos 4 is a far older design than the S4 Pro in the G1.
One of the things Qualcomm promised would come with Snapdragon 800 (8974) (and by extension the process improvement with 28nm HPM) was lower power consumption, especially versus Snapdragon 600 (8064). There are improvements throughout the overall Snapdragon 800 platform which help as well, newer PMIC (PM8941) and that newer modem block onboard as well, but overall platform power goes down in the lower performance states for Snapdragon 800. In addition the G2 has a few unique power saving features of its own, including display GRAM (Graphics RAM) which enables the equivalent of panel self refresh for the display. When the display is static, the G2 can run parts of the display subsystem and AP off and save power, which they purport increases the mixed use battery life case by 10 percent overall, and 26 percent compared to the actively refreshing display equivalent. In addition the G2 has a fairly sizable 3000 mAh 3.8V (11.4 watt-hour) battery which is stacked to get the most out of the rounded shape of the device, and utilizes LG's new SiO+ anode for increased energy density compared to the conventional graphite anode.
Our battery life test is unchanged, we calibrate the display to exactly 200 nits and run it through a controlled workload consisting of a dozen or so popular pages and articles with pauses in between until the device dies. This is repeated on cellular and WiFi, in this case since we have an international model of the G2 that lacks the LTE bands used in the USA, that's 3G WCDMA on AT&T's Band 2 network. I've tested 3G battery life on devices concurrently for a while now in addition to LTE though, so we still have some meaningful comparisons. The most interesting comparisons are to the Optimus G (APQ8064) and HTC One (APQ8064T) previous generation.
The G2 also charges very fast for its battery size. I've been profiling charging behavior and current for devices for a while now, since I strongly believe that battery life and charging speed are complimentary problems. You should always opportunistically charge your smartphone, being able to draw as much while you have access to a power outlet is critical. The G2 can negotiate a 2A charge rate on my downstream charge port controller and charges very fast in that mode. Of course the PM8941 PMIC also includes some new features that Qualcomm has given QuickCharge 2.0 branding.
You can read more here...
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7251/lg-g2-and-msm8974-snapdragon-800-a-quick-look/3
In addition, Samsung's implemented Qualcomm's Envelope Tracker chip in the N3 which (supposedly) is good for a 25% overall battery life savings because of enhanced management of radio signals.
The Note contains a Qualcomm chip called an envelope tracker, which will dramatically reduce the amount of power needed to run its LTE radio. We’re going to see this technology in a lot more devices.http://gigaom.com/2013/09/05/thanks...xy-note-3s-huge-screen-wont-kill-its-battery/
It's true, it's not the battery. My Moto X with a 2100 battery can easily get 4-6 hours on screen time.
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1. Sdcard slot
2. 5.7" 1080p screen
3. huge removable battery
4. snapdragon 800
5. 3 gb ram
im sold lol
oneandroidnut said:
1. Sdcard slot
2. 5.7" 1080p screen
3. huge removable battery
4. snapdragon 800
5. 3 gb ram
im sold lol
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i think a better quote would be samsung shut up and take my money but i'll have to settle with the Exynos because of my crappy country
Hardcore73 said:
The Note 3 should get around 5-7 hours on screen time easily.
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i hope that goes for the exynos version 2 because the 5210 was a fail so hoping the newer one will be better
my reason is because it can do everything the s4 can and even more on a larger screen,with a pen you can carry inside the phone!
My reasons to get N3-
1. Large Screen.
2. SoC - Preferring Snapdragon but i am afriad i will wind up getting the one Exynos.
3. RAM - Dude 3GB? The desktop i am using right now is having 2 GB RAM
4. Good Developer Support
5. I was fascinated by the leather touch given by sammy.
6. 13MP Camera is enough for me as i own Canon SX50 HS too.
7. Gonna pair the N3 with Gear.
Well this are my reasons, but to each his own..:angel:
N3 is gonna rule . \m/
LeviathanAP said:
My reasons to get N3-
1. Large Screen.
2. SoC - Preferring Snapdragon but i am afriad i will wind up getting the one Exynos.
3. RAM - Dude 3GB? The desktop i am using right now is having 2 GB RAM
4. Good Developer Support
5. I was fascinated by the leather touch given by sammy.
6. 13MP Camera is enough for me as i own Canon SX50 HS too.
7. Gonna pair the N3 with Gear.
Well this are my reasons, but to each his own..:angel:
N3 is gonna rule . \m/
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I agree Note 3 is gonna rule! Only concern i have is knox locking down the bootloader very very tight
Blackwolf10 said:
i think a better quote would be samsung shut up and take my money but i'll have to settle with the Exynos because of my crappy country
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i dont think that would turn me off from buying it either. no other phone can touch this thing with screen size and features not even G2
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Blackwolf10 said:
i think a better quote would be samsung shut up and take my money but i'll have to settle with the Exynos because of my crappy country
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your crappy country might be getting a beast
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/11...hrough-software-upgrade/#.UjB-rwL7Ayw.twitter
oneandroidnut said:
I agree Note 3 is gonna rule! Only concern i have is knox locking down the bootloader very very tight
i dont think that would turn me off from buying it either. no other phone can touch this thing with screen size and features not even G2
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your crappy country might be getting a beast
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/09/11...hrough-software-upgrade/#.UjB-rwL7Ayw.twitter
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owh owh now that is nice wondering how antutu will score
Ill probably take the octa version.
The reasons because I want the note3:
1fantastic display
2)3gb ram
3)working big.LITTLE
4)multiwindow
5)Wacom pen and digitizer
6)battery life
7) Wolfson DAC on the 5420
8)good camera
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owh owh now that is nice wondering how antutu will score
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dont know but cant be bad! and it isnt all about benchmarks for me! but they are nice for comparing devices!
I only have one reason.......
1. Because its awesome
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I have been interested in the Note since the first one but was more a fan of HTC devices and was unsure with how large it was. When I switched to Sprint (bad idea) I went with the EVO 4G LTE which I like but its starting to show its age and now that pretty much all HTC devices are going the iPhone route and not allowing you to swap out the battery or add memory I started looking more at the Note 2 and Verizon. I like the large screen and like the overall feel of the phone. Doing a little research and holding out I am now very excited to go away from Sprint and their complete lie of LTE services in my area and to Verizon and a Note 3. HTC makes some nice phones but I am ready to try something else. Hope I will be able to root it the day I get it though.
I'm getting it because I want it and need it Upgrading my phone every yr is a must.
Now that the rumors of Nexus devices have gone completely insane and terribly misleading I have thought about what I would like to see in a Nexus phone. Since Nexus devices are designed to be developer devices we have to keep in mind that hardware is the only thing you can really look at. Absolutely stock Android with no frills is our OS obviously. What kind of hardware should Google be encouraging development for? What manufacturer and what kind of specs would you want.
I'd like to see Motorola get a shot at the Nexus line. My bet is it would be called the Nexus X or the Moto Nexus.
Since its a Nexus device it has to be built completely open source. I'd like to see Moto open the X8 System up to allow developers to utilize the motion core and listening core. Anybody who has used a Moto X will agree that Active Display is probably the best feature ever. Unfortunately, it might fall outside the scope of Nexus to have this chipset in the phone as it is Motorola's silicon. It would likely have to be built on the Qualcomm chipset which tries to implement listening but fails miserably thus far. Basically I would love to see a Nexus device that is contextually aware of its surroundings without draining battery. Contextual awareness is the new wave in tech, allowing Devs to play around with that would be great.
Other Specs:
-5" Screen (at most) - I don't want a huge phone, that's why I have a tablet
-All day battery life - for the power user though because nobody else buys Nexus phones
-Rounded back
-Camera can be average, I don't care too much
This is based on the assumption that Nexus isn't dead so don't bring up Android Silver.
For me, I want a phone, not a flipping TV
- 4.5 Inch max. Now that screen sizes are getting close to tab/phablets, whats going to fill in the 'smaller' phone sizes?
- I know it wont happen but SD Card slot
- Aluminum body, probably the number one reason why HTC made a comeback
- Spec wise, I dont think it matters anymore to have the best CPU, or RAM
For me,I would love a bigger screen to 5",Not 4.9"....
4.5"-5" Screen,Liked nexus 4 on big screen with beautiful UI
SD card slot with App2SD(Why not google?)
3000+maH Battery
Snapdragon 400/S4 Pro(Quad Core)(Please no MTK.)S800 is too powerful.
LTE but...Certificated??
Note function?
Also most important,Cheaper(lol)
Assuming we're talking about the Nexus 6...
Screen no bigger than 5".
OIS 13mp camera or 16mp+ w/o OIS.
Bigass battery.
MicroSD slot, or storage option of 64gb (or even 128gb).
I'm sure the other specs will be up to snuff, so I won't wish and want with those.
If Your Phone Is Rooted
Install Xposed Installer
Than
Download Gravity Box And Customize Your Phone...:thumbup:
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N6 5.5 screen with little bezel works for me...
5" 1080p display
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
3000mah battery (removable)
16mp OIS camera
Micro sd up to 128gb
This would be a perfect nexus phone in my opinion
Ok It should be like the following :-
1- 5" to 5.5" Super AMOLED screen with the ability to turn it to Black & White mode for Ultra power saving.
2- Polycarbonate like the Nokia Lumia's design or any other type of good and high quality plastic.
3- more than 3000 mAh battery, at least 3500 mAh, with removable back cover and battery, I think that also it better and more secure in Airports and in general.
4- High quality camera with the ability of manual controls.
5- Front facing speakers (small one's for more compact size) like in HTC One M8.
6- 64-bit hardware, 4 GB Ram, Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 or above, 128 GB internal storage.
I think that phone will be enough for what I'm looking in 2014/2015 smartphone .
5 inch full HD screen
Snapdragon 805
8 MP UltraPixel camera
3 GB of RAM
Android L
Fingeprint scanner
Aluminium built body
3000 MaH battery minimum
IR blaster
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Removable battery would be great
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http://en.miui.com/thread-208881-1-1.html
Anyone interested about this? I chose the mi4c simply for the snapdragon and i was very tempted by the fingerprint scanner.
Whats your opinion, would you chose this over the mi4c?
well, the cons compared to mi4c: 1. 5.0 lollipop vs 5.1 llp on mi4c 2. many people still prefer 5" devices and the mi4c is a lot smaller and lighter 3. mi4c supports proper fast charging with variable voltage 4. mi4c screen has superior contrast (1700:1 vs 950:1 on the redmi note 3 pro). pros compared to mi4c: 1. more screen real estate 2. better build quality, more of a looker, too 3. fingerprint sensor 4. better battery backup, although it should charge real slow 5. s650 is more or less on the same level of performance with the s808 (maybe a 5% difference in favor of the 650) 6. i still don't know about the camera, mi4c has a 1/3" 13mp, wide angle, f/2.0 sony imx258 sensor with phase detection af vs redmi note 3 pro with a 16mp f/2.0 pdaf, but we still don't know if it's a. a samsung isocell s5k2pxx 1/2.6" sensor (like the one on the s5) b. a sony imx234 1/2.6" (g4 etc) c. a sony imx298 1/2.8" (mate 8 etc) so it should perform either equally or better compared to mi4c 7. it's going to be cheaper than the mi4c !
i would buy the one with unlocked bootloader....
offtopic but may i ask why is there no thread section about redmi note 3 here in xda?
darer99 said:
http://en.miui.com/thread-208881-1-1.html
Anyone interested about this? I chose the mi4c simply for the snapdragon and i was very tempted by the fingerprint scanner.
Whats your opinion, would you chose this over the mi4c?
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Seems like a nice phone, but the SoC is a littel outdated if you ask me, and the size of the phone is too big...
But for the price, it seems like a very good buy!
jonasb_dk said:
Seems like a nice phone, but the SoC is a littel outdated if you ask me, and the size of the phone is too big...
But for the price, it seems like a very good buy!
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Outdated SoC? Snapdragon 650 isn't even in any phone you can buy right now (as far as I know) and yet it's outdated?
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Outdated SoC? Snapdragon 650 isn't even in any phone you can buy right now (as far as I know) and yet it's outdated?
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Sorry, I read it as SD 615.
It still is a good phone, even better now . No doubt. The screen is just too big for me.
I hate it. The SoC is better (BIG cluster uses A72 instead of A57), the GPU is better (proven by higher AnTuTu score), the rear camera resolution is bigger, the battery is bigger, the screen is bigger, full metal unibody, yet cheaper price. Damn you, xiaomi...
I currently have an lg g2 that I really like. The xiaomi mi4 is currently on sale for 155$. It is a really good deal and I am going to sell my g2 for the same amount. The question is, is it worth it? What advantages will I get with the mi4? I am scarred to get a yellow spot on my g2's screen, because it is very common. I also like miui a lot, but I hate lag. I can see the slightest lag
You may just buy Redmi Note 3 Pro instead of Mi4, it has better chip. It has fast development like mi4. I bought mi4 for IDR 1,6 million (about USD 120) for my wife yesterday, but after I know how fast the development of Reno 3 Pro is, I realize "buy Redmi Note 3 Pro" is better choice.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6518&idPhone2=7863
Reno 3 Pro has MicroSD Expansion or dual simcard if you choose. With thinner body.
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Yes, I must agree on the Redmi Note 3 Pro. I also had a G2 as my main driver, but after some beating it took, it needed replacement after more than 2 years of use.
I did an extensive research, and was most likely to buy G3 or G4. But the thing that bothers me about those phones is:
a) processor - 801 is not much of a upgrade, and I would rather avoid 808/810, for heating issues/throttling, which means inadequate performance in the long run, and faster battery drain.
b) No physical buttons - this is very subjective, but I hate the software buttons for my reasons, and would much rather go for a phone with physical buttons
c) Design - G4 has an attractive design, but G3 looks very similar to the G2, which got boring to me.
d) Display - I do NOT want 1440p display on a phone, for my own reasons (battery life). Plus, the G3 supposedly has washed out colors.
After a ~month of research, I found out about the Snapdragon 650 and 652, and boy, after owning the Note 3 Pro for about a month now, I can say that the processors are incomparably better than the 808/810 (which leads me to an obvious question - is the 20nm TSMC process to blame? I really believe it is.).
The pros of Note 3 Pro
- price: 32GB/3GB version (the only one you want) cost me about 270 USD, brand new delivered from China by DHL, with custom fees pre-paid and insured.
- display: although 5.5 inch is maybe ever so slightly bigger than an ideal size for one-handed usage, the display looks stunning. I'm getting compliments on the display from everyone who sees it. The colors are so vibrant and saturated! I just love to look at the display (not to say that the G2 didn't have a good display - it is just no match for this one.)
- performance: absolutely unbeatable. I though the G2 was fast enough. Well, that changed when I got my hands on the Snapdragon 650. In my opinion, this SoC can only be beaten by 652, 820 and the 14nm Exynoses. Not to mention that the RAM and eMMC is most likely also much faster compared to the G2.
- battery life: Great, awesome, super cool. 4000 mAh and a very good SoC means that this thing will ALWAYS last you the whole day, even if you throw the heaviest workloads on it.
- and other minor things, like the great fingerprint sensor, MIUI goodies, great Wi-Fi, bluetooth and cellular reception, very clear and loud call speaker, microSD, dual SIM, etc.
Cons:
- missing LTE band 20 - the only thing that bothers me about this phone. Even though I live in a big city, I often have problems getting LTE signal - G2 did not have this problem and always had a reliable LTE connection
- locked bootloader - which can be unlocked, but official way is really cumbersome, as you have to wait for 2 weeks to get a permission to unlock, and even then, I managed to unlock it only after switching to a china dev rom (from global stable). After you get it OFFICIALLY unlocked, this is no longer a problem (there is also an unofficial way, but I wouldn't really recommend it, due to the hassle with flashing roms, which can brick your phone if done wrong).
- as with all stock ROMs, also MIUI is bloated with (for me) useless applications. I like to keep my phones as clean as possible, to maximize performance and battery life. But yeah, after you get a custom recovery and root, you can debloat it to your liking
All in all, I am more than satisfied with this phone. Right now, I would maybe switch it for a Mi5, but the price gap is not justifiable in my opinion.
TL;DR: Get the Redmi Note 3 Pro 32GB!
I recently got my Nexus 6P (64GB) stolen and I'm thinking of getting the Mi4 since I'm on a tight budget. I'm also considering getting a Redmi 3S but it's a bit expensive compared to the Mi4 being an older device. I haven't used a custom rom ever since I used a Note 5, iPhone 6 Plus and Nexus 6P and I'm thinking of using a custom rom if I do get the Mi4. So do you guys think the Mi4 is still worth getting in 2017?
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
Snapdragon 801 seems plenty fast to me, I'm not trying to play VR games on my phone after all. Maybe some people are?
P.Kosunen said:
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
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Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
gemmoglock said:
Unfortunately no. The Mi4 uses a Snapdragon 801 which here: http://www.gsmarena.com/mobile_chipset_guide-review-1561p4.php does worse than many other newer lower-end chipsets. So get phones with Snapdragon 6XX for better value and future proofing
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OK, so, which one is better than the Redmi 4 at $175 (current price)?
Which one is better than a Oneplus One for under $300?
I've had a Oneplus One since shortly after they were released. Looking to upgrade eventually, once I can get something with: USB C, better battery life, better camera - for $300 or less.
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Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi4-with-two-different-camera-sensors-sony-or-samsung.33572/
Can't find other one with Google, too much results. IIRC it was in en.miui.com.
As a mi4 user myself, I do not recommend it this day. This device is very good incase of build quality and battery life but it is outdated. You can at least go for Mi4c ( if I'm not mistaken, the one with sd 808 and 3 gigs of ram ) It will get Nougat too in summer maybe.
still works fine
it all depends on your usage of the phone. If you're looking into playing games then the SD801 might be not enough any more. If you need all LTE bands working, the MI4 wouldn't be the right thing.
cons:
-- gpu performance not up to par with current gpu's
-- different versions of the phone without LTE or only band 1,3
- only qualcomm quick charge 2.0
pro:
++ 5 inch JDI IPS screen is still top (1080p)
++ 13MP rear camera with sony sensor (IMX214 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ 8MP front camera with sony sensor (IMX219 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ build quality is top
+ 3080mAh battery is good enough
for me the best thing is the community support: you still get all sorts of custom roms including the latest nougat updates (check the MI3 forum, they are mostly working for the MI4 too).
gemmoglock said:
Unfortunately no. The Mi4 uses a Snapdragon 801 which here: http://www.gsmarena.com/mobile_chipset_guide-review-1561p4.php does worse than many other newer lower-end chipsets. So get phones with Snapdragon 6XX for better value and future proofing
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P.Kosunen said:
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
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critofur said:
Snapdragon 801 seems plenty fast to me, I'm not trying to play VR games on my phone after all. Maybe some people are?
Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
OK, so, which one is better than the Redmi 4 at $175 (current price)?
Which one is better than a Oneplus One for under $300?
I've had a Oneplus One since shortly after they were released. Looking to upgrade eventually, once I can get something with: USB C, better battery life, better camera - for $300 or less.
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P.Kosunen said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi4-with-two-different-camera-sensors-sony-or-samsung.33572/
Can't find other one with Google, too much results. IIRC it was in en.miui.com.
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0perat0r said:
As a mi4 user myself, I do not recommend it this day. This device is very good incase of build quality and battery life but it is outdated. You can at least go for Mi4c ( if I'm not mistaken, the one with sd 808 and 3 gigs of ram ) It will get Nougat too in summer maybe.
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knoxwalles said:
it all depends on your usage of the phone. If you're looking into playing games then the SD801 might be not enough any more. If you need all LTE bands working, the MI4 wouldn't be the right thing.
cons:
-- gpu performance not up to par with current gpu's
-- different versions of the phone without LTE or only band 1,3
- only qualcomm quick charge 2.0
pro:
++ 5 inch JDI IPS screen is still top (1080p)
++ 13MP rear camera with sony sensor (IMX214 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ 8MP front camera with sony sensor (IMX219 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ build quality is top
+ 3080mAh battery is good enough
for me the best thing is the community support: you still get all sorts of custom roms including the latest nougat updates (check the MI3 forum, they are mostly working for the MI4 too).
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Sorry for the super late reply, been busy with my studies. Anyway I got myself a Redmi 4A instead due to unexpected circumstances that killed my budget (lol). I don't really play games on my phone so I guess this would do for now. I'll save up and probably get something better by the end of this year or earlier next year. Though the Redmi 4A battery life is pretty good but I do miss the large screen, stereo speakers, and camera of the 6P *sobs*