Design Your Nexus Phone - Let's Discuss - General Topics

Now that the rumors of Nexus devices have gone completely insane and terribly misleading I have thought about what I would like to see in a Nexus phone. Since Nexus devices are designed to be developer devices we have to keep in mind that hardware is the only thing you can really look at. Absolutely stock Android with no frills is our OS obviously. What kind of hardware should Google be encouraging development for? What manufacturer and what kind of specs would you want.
I'd like to see Motorola get a shot at the Nexus line. My bet is it would be called the Nexus X or the Moto Nexus.
Since its a Nexus device it has to be built completely open source. I'd like to see Moto open the X8 System up to allow developers to utilize the motion core and listening core. Anybody who has used a Moto X will agree that Active Display is probably the best feature ever. Unfortunately, it might fall outside the scope of Nexus to have this chipset in the phone as it is Motorola's silicon. It would likely have to be built on the Qualcomm chipset which tries to implement listening but fails miserably thus far. Basically I would love to see a Nexus device that is contextually aware of its surroundings without draining battery. Contextual awareness is the new wave in tech, allowing Devs to play around with that would be great.
Other Specs:
-5" Screen (at most) - I don't want a huge phone, that's why I have a tablet
-All day battery life - for the power user though because nobody else buys Nexus phones
-Rounded back
-Camera can be average, I don't care too much
This is based on the assumption that Nexus isn't dead so don't bring up Android Silver.

For me, I want a phone, not a flipping TV
- 4.5 Inch max. Now that screen sizes are getting close to tab/phablets, whats going to fill in the 'smaller' phone sizes?
- I know it wont happen but SD Card slot
- Aluminum body, probably the number one reason why HTC made a comeback
- Spec wise, I dont think it matters anymore to have the best CPU, or RAM

For me,I would love a bigger screen to 5",Not 4.9"....
4.5"-5" Screen,Liked nexus 4 on big screen with beautiful UI
SD card slot with App2SD(Why not google?)
3000+maH Battery
Snapdragon 400/S4 Pro(Quad Core)(Please no MTK.)S800 is too powerful.
LTE but...Certificated??
Note function?
Also most important,Cheaper(lol)

Assuming we're talking about the Nexus 6...
Screen no bigger than 5".
OIS 13mp camera or 16mp+ w/o OIS.
Bigass battery.
MicroSD slot, or storage option of 64gb (or even 128gb).
I'm sure the other specs will be up to snuff, so I won't wish and want with those.

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Install Xposed Installer
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N6 5.5 screen with little bezel works for me...

5" 1080p display
Snapdragon 801
3gb ram
3000mah battery (removable)
16mp OIS camera
Micro sd up to 128gb
This would be a perfect nexus phone in my opinion

Ok It should be like the following :-
1- 5" to 5.5" Super AMOLED screen with the ability to turn it to Black & White mode for Ultra power saving.
2- Polycarbonate like the Nokia Lumia's design or any other type of good and high quality plastic.
3- more than 3000 mAh battery, at least 3500 mAh, with removable back cover and battery, I think that also it better and more secure in Airports and in general.
4- High quality camera with the ability of manual controls.
5- Front facing speakers (small one's for more compact size) like in HTC One M8.
6- 64-bit hardware, 4 GB Ram, Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 or above, 128 GB internal storage.
I think that phone will be enough for what I'm looking in 2014/2015 smartphone .

5 inch full HD screen
Snapdragon 805
8 MP UltraPixel camera
3 GB of RAM
Android L
Fingeprint scanner
Aluminium built body
3000 MaH battery minimum
IR blaster
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Removable battery would be great
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what's your completely unrealistic dream phone?

the idea of this tread comes from here.thanks to xeper
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493034
here is my wishlist:
I want a 4.3 Sony OLED screen,i dont care for Quadcore.for me 2.5ghz dualcore Novathor A9600 chipset is enough.And so is 1280*720.i want 12MP Sony Exmor R Sensor Camera.(i loved my Arcs camera) and the newest Android version.2Mp Front camera.1900Mah battery-Internal32 GB, 1.5 GB RAM-Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine - Timescape UI- HDMI port- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic Thats about it.what about yours?
Nintendo 3DS phone 5mp front camera 12 mp back camera, full hd 3d, 2gb internal memory 128gb sd card, xloud/bravia, quad core and with 1day full use battery.
nenobr2 said:
Nintendo 3DS phone 5mp front camera 12 mp back camera, full hd 3d, 2gb internal memory 128gb sd card, xloud/bravia, quad core and with 1day full use battery.
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that would be nice to have.since i have Evo 3D not it would be a worthy upgrade
I would like a 2mm thick phone with a 5.7" screen, there is no speaker or earphone to be seen as it is located inside the phone. There are no buttons whatsoever on the phone...the screen is turned on by creating a circle on the screen or a user defined input, the power button exists on the top right of the screen, this is activated by holding finger/thumb there for 3 seconds as constant heat activates the power menu and switches phone on
The phone is ultra flexible and finished with a clear film of kevlar particles bound together created by fusion, the phone has 8 cores operating at 3.7GHz each, which are cooled by 3 mini fans each that are made of ultra light and strong material encased in ultra heat conductive super mini sinks that pull away heat at incredible proportions, the phone has 2 nano batteries that last upto 3 days at full use. The GPU is a super quick 6GB memory based device.
The screen has 3200 by 4800 pixels, with full 3D and HD, incorporating nano sized LEDS. It supports a 21Mega pixel camera. The internal memory has a slot that can be upgrades to 2 tera bytes. The phone has HDMI, charging point, ear jack, super mini tubular USB all in one port.
However...with all that, the phone lacks one thing and that is there is no bluetooth support.
A bit realistically: Nokia N9 with Android
Unrealistically:
Hexacore 2 GHz Exynox CPU
3 GB of RAM
A 4.3 inch SuperAMOLED+ with a QFHD resolution (3840 x 2160)
"Nexus" phone
10000 mAh battery
Galaxy SII thickness (maybe a bit thicker)
The thing that I would like to see most in a phone is a battery which can be recharged while using the phone. Not solar panels (sun is not always present), but a device that transforms finger pressure/heat into electical energy...
Ianis G. Vasilev said:
The thing that I would like to see most in a phone is a battery which can be recharged while using the phone. Not solar panels (sun is not always present), but a device that transforms finger pressure/heat into electical energy...
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What about something that some watches use, almost like a dynamo inside the device that charges the battery while you're moving the phone?
nejc121 said:
What about something that some watches use, almost like a dynamo inside the device that charges the battery while you're moving the phone?
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A gyroscope?
nejc121 said:
A bit realistically: Nokia N9 with Android
Unrealistically:
Hexacore 2 GHz Exynox CPU
3 GB of RAM
A 4.3 inch SuperAMOLED+ with a QFHD resolution (3840 x 2160)
"Nexus" phone
10000 mAh battery
Galaxy SII thickness (maybe a bit thicker)
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Totally agree
No Offence but do you guys actually understand what the phrase "Complete flight of fantasy" means??
"completely unrealistic" mean just that, the phones most of you guys are suggesting already almost exist !!!!!!
You guys need to dream a little more with the CRAZY brakes OFF!!!!!
Hold onto your expectations!!!!!!!
My FANTASY PHONE is a sub-dermal cranial mounted (It fits inside the skull in the bone, no one will lose this mofo ) device using quantum entanglement to transmit and receive data, the back bone of the system is a quantum processor arrayed neural net system. Using weird characteristic of quantum interaction to essentially form a network of CPUs each in an alternative universe all acting as one multicore CPU, theoretically delivering unlimited processing power on demand.
RAM and Storage ........ pick a 3 figure number and add terabyte to the end.
Ocular display via glasses or a dedicated 'data contact lens'.
Mandible mounted mic, full voice control input and output.
Cranial mounted bone conducting headphones (Cyber-homeboi still needz ta rock da bass innit )
Oh yeah and since we are talking bat**** fantasy with the crazy brakes TFO I would probably, have a fully sense VR system built into it, why game when you have free time when you could just explore an entire other universe.
etc, etc, etc
Guru Zeb said:
No Offence but do you guys actually understand what the phrase "Complete flight of fantasy" means??
"completely unrealistic" mean just that, the phones most of you guys are suggesting already almost exist !!!!!!
You guys need to dream a little more with the CRAZY brakes OFF!!!!!
Hold onto your expectations!!!!!!!
My FANTASY PHONE is a sub-dermal cranial mounted (It fits inside the skull in the bone, no one will lose this mofo ) device using quantum entanglement to transmit and receive data, the back bone of the system is a quantum processor arrayed neural net system. Using weird characteristic of quantum interaction to essentially form a network of CPUs each in an alternative universe all acting as one multicore CPU, theoretically delivering unlimited processing power on demand.
RAM and Storage ........ pick a 3 figure number and add terabyte to the end.
Ocular display via glasses or a dedicated 'data contact lens'.
Mandible mounted mic, full voice control input and output.
Cranial mounted bone conducting headphones (Cyber-homeboi still needz ta rock da bass innit )
Oh yeah and since we are talking bat**** fantasy with the crazy brakes TFO I would probably, have a fully sense VR system built into it, why game when you have free time when you could just explore an entire other universe.
etc, etc, etc
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yep.you are right bro.my dream phone is almost real.
SealsNavie said:
I would like a 2mm thick phone with a 5.7" screen, there is no speaker or earphone to be seen as it is located inside the phone. There are no buttons whatsoever on the phone...the screen is turned on by creating a circle on the screen or a user defined input, the power button exists on the top right of the screen, this is activated by holding finger/thumb there for 3 seconds as constant heat activates the power menu and switches phone on
The phone is ultra flexible and finished with a clear film of kevlar particles bound together created by fusion, the phone has 8 cores operating at 3.7GHz each, which are cooled by 3 mini fans each that are made of ultra light and strong material encased in ultra heat conductive super mini sinks that pull away heat at incredible proportions, the phone has 2 nano batteries that last upto 3 days at full use. The GPU is a super quick 6GB memory based device.
The screen has 3200 by 4800 pixels, with full 3D and HD, incorporating nano sized LEDS. It supports a 21Mega pixel camera. The internal memory has a slot that can be upgrades to 2 tera bytes. The phone has HDMI, charging point, ear jack, super mini tubular USB all in one port.
However...with all that, the phone lacks one thing and that is there is no bluetooth support.
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the last part makes it sound like an iphone.lmao
it should have microscopes... no periscopes... no telescopes... can you get back to me.
4.5" screen.
2GB of RAM.
A version of Android optimized for multi cores, beyond ICS.
Quad core Exynos with LTE support.
32GB minimum internal storage.
32GB SD card minimum.
10MP 1080p Rear camera with no shutter.
3MP 720p Front camera with eyeball scanner for security.
Kevlar and waterproof back.
4000mAh removable battery.
Unlocked bootloader S-OFF by default.
Gorilla Glass 2 with anti smudge and anti scratch technology.
iPhone thickness.
A red galaxy note with Tmo 4G.
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Five0nIt said:
A red galaxy note with Tmo 4G.
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So many people want galaxy note.I think Samsung did a good job on that one.
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A new Nexus phone by HTC
4.5 screen super amoled display
Whatever new latest running Android
12mp camera on the back, 3mp on the front
2600 battery mAH
32gb internal memory
Micro SD slot for more memory
Make it somewhat similar to a Nexus one and Sensation
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2x Tegra 3 CPU's, 4GB of RAM, 64GB Samsung 830 SSD, 4.3" 1080p Display with mini-HDMI, mini-USB, 3.5mm audio jack running Jelly Bean. Screw ICS it's outdated! lol It'll be the new HP Blades/smartphone. Smartphone with display blade without display.
Can you imagine how many of these you can put in a standard 42u Rack?
josephnero said:
the idea of this tread comes from here.thanks to xeper
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493034
here is my wishlist:
I want a 4.3 Sony OLED screen,i dont care for Quadcore.for me 2.5ghz dualcore Novathor A9600 chipset is enough.And so is 1280*720.i want 12MP Sony Exmor R Sensor Camera.(i loved my Arcs camera) and the newest Android version.2Mp Front camera.1900Mah battery-Internal32 GB, 1.5 GB RAM-Sony Mobile BRAVIA Engine - Timescape UI- HDMI port- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic Thats about it.what about yours?
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pragmatous said:
2x Tegra 3 CPU's, 4GB of RAM, 64GB Samsung 830 SSD, 4.3" 1080p Display with mini-HDMI, mini-USB, 3.5mm audio jack running Jelly Bean. Screw ICS it's outdated! lol It'll be the new HP Blades/smartphone. Smartphone with display blade without display.
Can you imagine how many of these you can put in a standard 42u Rack?
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that sounds ultra cool
come on guyz.tell us what you want

HTC One S Review Thread

Rate the phone 1-5 on-
Battery Life
Speed
Performence
Build quality
Overall
And tell pros and cons
Battery life - 3
Speed - 4
Performance - 4
Build quality - 5
Overall - 4 of 5
I absolutely love this device. The size is a plus, the beautiful design and the fact that the s4 processor is a monster and doesn't have to push a 720p screen is great. The downfalls would be no micro ad slot, yeah you get dropbox but that uses your data and we all know what comes along with that. Also not having a quad core... It is the latest and greatest and certain games are gonna push this s4 and probably not run as they would on a quad core. Also if the quad core was there maybe we could get that 720p screen.
To conclude, in my opinion this is the best ONE series device if you are in the US. Abroad I think I would go with the quad core one x on the basis of the screen and processor. But this phone is the epidemy of what a smartphone should be. Sense 4.0 is intelligent and the camera is remarkable. Glad I switched from my amaze.
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Battery Life-4
Speed-4
Performence-5
Build quality-3
Overall-4
I love this phone the only problem I have with when ever I hold it without a case on the phone feels like it can slip right out of my hand(I have the gray one). But other than that the phone is awesome
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My Design for the "Nexus 4"

I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4
thanamesjames said:
I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4
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The Design of the One S is amazing and would not change it too much, maybe a slight change to the backing so it doesnt slip of the hand. Screen Size 4.3" to 4.5". Removable battery and edge to edge display.
Yeah would be nice, but without the hardware buttons it looks a little bit ****ty.
If I helped in any way please hit thanks
thanamesjames said:
I'm a big fan of the One S, and think that it would be great hardware, when tweaked a bit, for a more "casual" Nexus that could actually compete with the iPhone. Due to the moniker, Nexus 7, it would be called the Nexus 4.
Changes from One S to Nexus 4:
Keep 4.3" screen size, but with One X quality. Higher brightness and > 300ppi.
Cut off the hardware buttons to reduce the vertical size and weight of the phone.
Bump ram to 2GB.
Pure Google
So what do you think? Any changes? Do you think it's a good idea? Could you see a large casual market adopting this phone in a similar way to the iPhone?
Here's a quick mockup: Nexus 4
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Add a good notification led (the one on the One S sucks) that's compatible with light flow and I'd get one!
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Thanks God it just a your design man
DualCore is too old.
We need:
Chipset: Qualcomm MDM9615/APQ8064
CPU: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320
F*** the "LG"
But check the damn performance of new S4 PRO:
1:30
Meh, what sort of flagship device would have a mid range phone screen size? Or better yet, why would they downgrade from the Galaxy Nexus?
Hgaara said:
Meh, what sort of flagship device would have a mid range phone screen size? Or better yet, why would they downgrade from the Galaxy Nexus?
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If they keep going for bigger screens, then the nexus 8 will be a tablet
r0man.de said:
If they keep going for bigger screens, then the nexus 8 will be a tablet
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Yes, 4.3 to 4.5 max for a phone for me, have no qualms with screen size of HOS.
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avetny said:
Thanks God it just a your design man
DualCore is too old.
We need:
Chipset: Qualcomm MDM9615/APQ8064
CPU: Quad-core 1.5 GHz Krait
GPU: Adreno 320
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What, noo, we neeeeed 6 Core everything other is just way too old, because everyone knows 2 cores in a phone just isn't enough and every app uses at least 4 Cores!!!!!!! 5GHz has to be, anything else won't bring me to the top of the bench!! Has no real world needs, but who cared, SPECS!!!!!!
Trying to make it as realistic as possible whilst also powerful:
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064
Adreno 320 GPU
4.7", 720p Super AMOLED HD (non-pentile), manufactured by Sharp
1.5GB RAM
12MP Camera with burst-shot function
On-screen buttons
32GB Storage, no SD card slot
25GB Dropbox space
usaff22 said:
Trying to make it as realistic as possible whilst also powerful:
1.5GHz quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064
Adreno 320 GPU
4.7", 720p Super AMOLED HD (non-pentile), manufactured by Sharp
1.5GB RAM
12MP Camera with burst-shot function
On-screen buttons
32GB Storage, no SD card slot
25GB Dropbox space
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THIS.

Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?

Why are there no high end 4" android phones? Does everyone think bigger is better?
This article raised a very good question I've been wondering for a while now too:
http://www.zdnet.com/dear-android-manufacturers-please-sell-me-the-phone-that-i-want-7000006437/
There are plenty of android phones to choose from. But every North American manufacturer's flagship phones are 4.6+ inches and they just seem to be getting bigger! I don't want a bigger phone...but I want flagship hardware. How many >4.5 inch android phones have top tier hardware (quadcore, HD screen, top end GPU). ZERO.:crying:
The one thing I think Apple has right is the size of the iPhone 5. It fits very comfortably in your hand. I can fit the Galaxy Nexus in one hand, but I cannot reach all areas of the screen with my thumb if I have 4 fingers gripping the side of the phone. I can stretch if I put my pinky on the bottom and only 3 on the side, but if I add a case to the mix then it becomes uncomfortable again.
Now I admit I have smaller hands, but I'm sure others have this issue as well. I just was shocked to read through the comments on the story to see how many people avidly almost "attacked" the author for his opinion. Thinking it was ridiculous to expect options like this. And that people with smaller hands should just be content with outdated hardware on smaller phones.
Anyone else who wish the sizes would go back down? Or at least have options of smaller models with the same high end hardware? Was really hoping for a 4-4.3" Nexus 4...but I know that's not going to happen Oh well...here's to hoping it might happen with the Nexus 5...
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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lowbudge said:
I think it has to do with utility anymore. Screen size is pretty much a deciding factor for most because of what they can do or what they feel they need with their device. I agree with you on size but do not think one handing your phone shouldn't be a factor.
However, 4" is a nice juicy screen size for anyone. But then again there is the utility thing to think about. Who really uses a smart phone just to make calls or view an email/text anymore?
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to be honest i am absolutely agree with u.
now adays smartphone is used for browsing and multimedia rather than make a call and sms or email.
u can get samsung galaxy s3 mini at least.
IMHO. nexus series will look like this in the future. i believe google has make some kind of standardization of their phone model.
4.65 with a shape like galnex.
its not the screen size that i really concern. but the battery life...
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
The new Galaxy S3 Mini just came out! It has the SPECS of a flagship devices, but has a 4" screen!
I prefer big displays mainly because tiny onscreen keyboards are hard to use.
Alton (Halo 2) said:
There is a high end phone that's 4" its called the Droid Incredible 4G LTE
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I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
063_XOBX said:
Screens are huge because we demand high definition screens. 720x1280 doesn't come cheap in a 4inch screen. Also leaves more room for battery and the extra lte antenna.
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Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
063_XOBX said:
4.3 with buttons is the same profile as the Galaxy Nexus without. Maybe a little narrower.
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I didn't think about the buttons. I guess I couldn't really say unless I held it in my hands, but it seems noticeably smaller on paper:
Xiaomi MI-2 Dimensions:
126 x 62 x 10.2 mm (4.96 x 2.44 x 0.40 in)
VS
Samsung Galaxy Nexus I9250 Dimensions:
135.5 x 67.9 x 8.9 mm (5.33 x 2.67 x 0.35 in)
Not a HUGE difference...again, I'd prefer a 4" phone where the difference would be more noticeable. But if these specs can be squeezed into 4.3" on the cheap from a no name brand, my point is it's definitely possible to do 4" from a big name brand manufacturer.
colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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crazaytalent said:
I think part of the reason there isn't much interest in a north American equivalent, is because, it's a common myth throughout the world that we believe 'bigger is better' ...
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It is a common idea in North America that "bigger is better," as well as "more is better." Just check out the average BMI in the US... kinda high up there.... and it ain't muscle mass.... check out Texas as an example.
I too was very concerned with my future phone before I upgraded to the Gnex. I had a 4.3" Droid Charge. I thought that anything over 4.5" was pushing my limits, but I slowly became very comfortable with the current Gnex size. However, I still do not want anything larger than 4.65"... so I'm hoping the future Nexus phones after the Nexus 4 don't get any bigger.
Side note: w00t SF Giants FTW!!!!!
I think the current nexus screen size is perfect imo
maybe the nexus 3 will grant your wish?
I guess your the odd one out that manufacturers don't care about
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High end Android phone will never be released in 4inch. That's how they make them different from iphone in the first place. There are more ppl want bigger phone. And tbh, ppl use both hand to type even on iphone... 4inch high end flagship phone is... meh... it will never happen..
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colonelcack said:
I guess I should have been more clear in my title. I meant 4" flagship devices, top tier...not just "high end". The Droid is only dual core, 1GB of ram, 8GB of storage and isn't 720P.
Take a look at the specs of the Chinese phone listed in the article...
"720p 4.3-inch screen with a Retina-display-busting pixel density of 342ppi. Quad-core 1.5GHz Snapdragon processor, 2GB of RAM, Jelly Bean and up to 32GB of storage. No microSD, sadly, and of course there may be support and warranty issues, but this ideally-sized powerhouse will retail at less than £250."
So It can be done. And on the affordable side even (~$400). My question is why is there no equivalent of this in the North American market?
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The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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Smokeey said:
The Chinese manufactured phones (xaomi etc) are produced in small amounts and are only cheap because of excess chip production. They're really hard to find in any market.
The Droid Incredible LTE is a great phone. The Snapdragon S4 is no slouch and the screen is rather beautiful. If you're expecting a 720p screen on a 4 inch device...please...come down to earth with the rest of us. The only way you're getting that is if you buy an iPhone or somehow get your hands on one of the Chinese phones.
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iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
A 4" top tier device now would probably be way more costly to manufacture than the usual 4.5"+ screen size device. And there will probably be very very few quad cores, if any in a device that small. Battery and all the other top tier accoutrements just won't be feasible. You will have to settle for a sacrifice somewhere. Last years top end specs in 4" form factor is probably best you can expect for a year or two.
Off topic but I wish Samsung took a chance on the galaxy premier and made it just like the nexus instead of Samsung's typical hardware button accompanied by two capacitive buttons. Better GPU and CPU. And add stock android. Samsung is probably too scared to lose any marketshare by alienating a device. What is wrong with taking small chances on a mid end device? All the people skipping the lg nexus 4 would probably take a serious at the i9260 if it had Google's now standard software navigation, with upgraded specs aaaaaaand a SD card slot. Smdh Samsung.
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Zepius said:
iphone 5 is not a 720p display... close but not a true 720p
http://www.zdnet.com/will-the-iphone-5-display-remain-competitive-7000004012/
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My point exactly though. You can't get true 720p in a 4 inch screen and if you did you'd have to use a microscope to read anything.
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Mi 4c or OnePlus X?

Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)(MSM8974PRO-AA)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
-Slippery
-SD card problem //fixed
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
If I'm right also oneplus x lacks in 800 Mhz LTE band
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No. Oneplus x for eu include band 20. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
I was thinking of getting the opx for a family member but I think the mi4c is better due to what you mentioned, bigger battery, Wi-Fi ac, USB C, ir blaster which is a bonus and the soc. Camera is very good and fast. Maybe wait for opx review with camera samples.
Custom roms may be slow but there is a cm12.1 rom which is a daily driver except a few minor bugs.
Touch problem was only there on the first ROM. All roms after that had no problems with it. We get weekly updates aswell but probably won't get official marshmallow soon (custom rom, 99% sure though), so you're pretty much set on the software part. I'd say the screen is very good, it has high contrast rates and looks very bright. You can control the saturation etc. so blue (cold) and warm colors is probably what they are reporting.
The advantage to OPX I'd see is band 20, it looks a bit better (just my opinion, but build quality is solid on both), has AMOLED and it has MicroSD.
I already have mi 4c and its better than even one plus two
One plus x is average phone.
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I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
geko95gek said:
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
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Apparently xiaomi release source a few months later? When it does, it will be the better phone.
I'd wait for camera samples so that way youll have an all rounder phone
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
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Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
andrew551 said:
Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
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If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
cowithgun said:
If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
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Agree. I pick Mi4C because once I spend money, I want to use hardware for as long as possible. Mi4C is more future ready with USB-C, WiFi-ac, 64bit compliance and cost. AMOLED is one thing that I'd miss but guess that's a minor negative.
shangxor said:
Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
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No tweaks but aggressively toggling settings like aeroplane mode when on my train journey to/from work (no reception), only turning sync on when I connect to WiFi and then only connecting to WiFi occasionally to check emails. No bluetooth, location (yes, locking on is buggy for me but can get it eventually)
I love my Mi4C, the power, the battery life, the design and the display is awesome (and its not blueish) before I'd buy One Plus X, I would rather buy a Xiaomi Mi4
I just wish the Mi 4c had either 64GB or SD card support as well as band 20, I don't care about NFC. If it had those it'd be the perfect phone for me!
The Mi 4c is superior but if you really need band 20 e. g. you instead have to use 2G there's no way around the one plus x
either way both are solid phones
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
geko95gek said:
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
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Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
ermacwins said:
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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Totally agree
ermacwins said:
Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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I guess but at least OP have a global division where RMA and warranty issues get handled. Which is so much better than importing a phone yourself and then having to send it back to China if something goes wrong.
I know what you mean about he plastics, I've had 2 Xiaomi devices myself before. 1 of which was plastic, and it felt alright but if I have a choice I'd always avoid any type of plastic.

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