So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
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tasanhalas said:
So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
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The 801 is certianly superior in GPU, it destroys the Adreno 405. The CPU of the ARMv8 615 will get you better battery life and similar processing speed and could even go faster once devs go full 64 bit. 801 is still the better chipset even if it is older, the GPU makes the difference.
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Lenovo:
Quad core, 1500 MHz, ARM Cortex-A53, 64-bit cpu,
Mali-T760 MP2
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Lenovo-TAB-2-A10-70_id9273
Samsung:
Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
Qualcomm Snapdragon 800
Adreno 330
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_pro_8_4-5946.php
I currently own both and must return one. My subjective impressions are that the Samsung has much better color balance and runs a little smoother, but oddly, with two different Gameloft games (Spiderman, Nova 3), the textures are noticably less detailed on the Samsung (perhaps a trade off for the Samsung's much higher resolution?)
Based on the specs, which do you think should be better for gaming overall, now and in the future?
I bought a Lenovo Tab 2 A10-70 and I'm rather disappointed in it. The GPU benchmarks are pretty weak, and the killer problem is it maxes out at 720p when streaming video. Otherwise it's a pretty nice tablet but that 720p video problem is super irritating. The only reason I haven't returned it yet is Lenovo is supposedly pushing out a Lollipop update soon and I'm hoping that maybe, just maybe, it'll play better-than-720p video with the update. But I doubt it.
Thanks for responding! Missed this earlier.
I did end up going for the Samsung, mainly because the sound was much better both through speakers and headphones. ATMOS may be a real thing for home theater, but for this tablet it just seemed like a gimmick.
I just got my Cube talk 9x. I really like it. I know it is old about two years but for me it is new. I have been wanting an octa core tablet just because I am a nerd and just to experience it on a tablet. I do not like Samsung Tablets and certainly did not want to spend that kind of money. I already have an Nvidia K1 and I really like it for a lot of reasons but I wanted a bigger screen and an Octa core processor with longer battery life than my Nvidia. I love the Nvidia but the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
I did not want to spend a lot of money, $200 being my limit. As you can imagine that does not buy much in larger format tablets. First I started with the cheap amazon octa cores with the Allwiner a83t and the likes of Dragon Touch. Thank God for Amazon prime returns! Those devices were just awful and the Allwinner A83t was not a good processor. I was very wary of buying a tablet direct from China. Heard some horror stories but I took a risk anyway.
Had a bad experience with Gearbest.com but had the Cube talk 9x enough to know it was a good device even though the first one was defective. Dealing with Gear best turned into a PayPal claim.
I tried Geekbuying and had a much better experience.
So now I have my Cube and I received new March 17th update. Of course I was hoping for Lollipop but no. Still on KitKat but I have to say it is very smooth. Very stable build of Android. Ram usage seems very well optimized.
So what makes this tablet special? Well for the cost only one other tablet in this size range has the same amount of ram which is the Lenovo tab2 a10. The Lenovo is nice with a 64 bit quad core cortex a53 media tek processor clocked at 1.7, full HD screen. However the Cube has a 32 bit octa core cortex a7 clocked at 1.7 and a retina screen. The Cube is made from a solid Aluminum body while the Lenovo is plastic. The Cube also has gorilla glass 2 while the Lenovo just has glass. Acer has a new 10.1" tab with a mediatek 8151 cortex a53 octa core processor and 1 GB ram and a 1280 x 800 screen. Unfortunately the low res screen and 1 GB of ram really hurt the user experience. The acer also feels cheap and is full of pre loaded apps. I bought the Acer only to return it because of the glitchy or defective WiFi and other things I mentioned.
Of course you could spend a lot more and have a super experience but I just can't justify $500 or more on a tablet. My computer costs about that much.
The Cube seems really well made. The updates after 2 years since it's release from a no name company is impressive as some of the brands I have had above barely udate their tablets. I still think Cube should release Lollipop but KitKat works well.
This tablet has the 1.7 GHz octa core processor, 2 gigs of ram, retina screen, 3g, 16 gig ROM, stereo speakers at the bottom of the tablet, 10,000 mah battery. Pretty impressive specs even for an older device. The limitations of the of the device are the 32 bit a7 cores used are better for power efficiency than performance. The newer mediatek 8151 which has the newer cortex 64 bit a53 cores perform much better while still being rather power efficient. For example the Acer with only 1gb or ram scored over 37,000 points on Anutu while the talk 9x with double the ram scored only 28,000 points roughly. Acer did a very good job of optimizing the ROM on their tablet. The Cube T9 has the newer octa core processor but it was over my price range.
However this tablet stock unrooted performs really well. There was not a lot of junk apps installed and most apps give you an option to install to SD card. Really the only drawback to this tablet is the partitioning. Seems like a common practice on the tablets from China. Not sure why. A horrible practice. You can root the device and try to repartition it but you could also brick the device in the process. The mediatek tools at not the easiest for me to use so I am not going to go there. Specially when the tablet runs great .
So I highly recommend this tablet with a couple of caveats. It is at the end of its life so it is really cheap but if you think it will be updated to Marshmallow or N you can forget it. Lollipop could happn but I would not hold my breath. The 2 gig app limit really sucks and there is no easy way to solve the problem.
So if you are looking for an amazing device for a good price I do not know of a better deal anywhere. Is the Octacore hype. Personally I don't think so. Sure there is marketing hype but the Octacore really feels snappy while the huge battery makes it last!
There are not a lot of these devices left. Seems Cube is now focused on dual boot tablets with Intel processors. I wish they would come out with a new octacore processor android tablet like the Nvidia x1 or the newer cortex a53 octa core from mediated. The t9 if you can find it would perform even better but the build quality and aluminum frame just really make this an enjoyable experience. If you want one I would act now.
Thanks for the first details of the tablet. Have you had a chance to test battery life yet?
I haven't let it run down yet. The lowest I got was to 79%. The charger and cable that come with the device are pretty much useless. Using a Lenovo 2amp tablet charger seems to charge pretty quickly. It does not have fast charge but so far it seems to charge up pretty fast and last pretty long. I will try and see if I can run down the battery to give a better approximation of the run time.
I'm thinking of buying HTC A9s for my parents. Price is quite right (300€), 720p screen, 3GB of RAM and maybe a little bit too small battery.
The only thing that scares me is the processor. I always had Snapdragon, which has a good reputation (minus the 810). The A9s comes with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10. Is it any good? People on the forums keeps saying that it is rubbish, but they never answer to the question why is it rubbish.
What do you guys think? Is it worth spending 300€ on a phone with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10?
Thanks, David
daEXk said:
I'm thinking of buying HTC A9s for my parents. Price is quite right (300€), 720p screen, 3GB of RAM and maybe a little bit too small battery.
The only thing that scares me is the processor. I always had Snapdragon, which has a good reputation (minus the 810). The A9s comes with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10. Is it any good? People on the forums keeps saying that it is rubbish, but they never answer to the question why is it rubbish.
What do you guys think? Is it worth spending 300€ on a phone with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10?
Thanks, David
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It's something like intel vs amd. Mediatek gets the job done but it isn't something perfect when it comes to performance (For instance 4 core 8xx snapdragon performs a lot better than 10 core mediatek), next problem may be that if somebody find some vulnerability in the chipset, mediatek rather release new model of their soc instead of releasing some security patches + you must consider that the phone with mediatek chipset, most likely won't get any future updates, even custom roms support is poor or even doesn't exist
Firstly, appolgize if wrong thread & I know there's probably many posts asking the same thing...
I'm planning to get a new Mobile - after having a Galaxy S4 (stuck on Android 4 since KNOX trip) since they first came out.
I'm a VERY light user, only using it for occasional text/calls, the occasional game & a little bit of Web Browsing (if I find any free Wifi hotspots)
.. Been looking at 'mid-range' SIM-free phones at about £200-£300 (could go as high as £350-ish IF the phone offers better 'futureproofing) with the following basic specs
5" (or larger) screen
32Mb (or more) / 3Gb (or more) RAM
3000mA battery (or more)
SD Card slot
Android 6/7 (6 as long as there's planned update to 7)
As little bloatware as possible - not too fussed if not quite 'vanilla' android but close to it would be nice
Now at first I narrowed it down to possibly a Moto G4 Plus but I find that the UK version does NOT have a compass, which I believe (wrongly perhaps) is usually essential if you plan to use any sat-nav software (which I occcasionally have to use).
Then I considered waiting for the Nokia 6.. possibly even the Arte Black version (when it FINALLY arrives in the UK) - since it's virtually 'Vanilla' Android & would probably won't have too much Bloatware - but I then read reviews that it can be a 'little laggy' opening apps
Then the Huawei Honor 8 was thought about but then read that some reviewers don't like the Emotion UI very much (not knowing the actual reason why they don't like it I won't know if I'd like it)
& finally the Samsung Galaxy A5 (2017) or Galaxy J7 Pro (if I can find a shop that sells it) is added to my short list but considering how much bloatware was installed on my aging S4 I'm concerned the A5/J7 will also have umpteen apps I will never use installed
Now I know the Moto G4 / Nokia 6 have larger screens than the Honor 8/A5 & the specs are not quite the same between phones (I've been using another website to compare specs.. not sure if allowed to post link/name but hopefully it'll be allowed - GSMARENA) but since I've been out of the Android game for a while - I'm confused over many of the specs
Examples:
Chipset: Which is considered 'better' - a Qualcomm MSM8952 Snapdragon 617, Qualcomm MSM8937 Snapdragon 430, HiSilicon Kirin 950 or Exynos 7880 Octa
CPU: Octa-core (4x1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & 4x1.2 GHz Cortex-A53), Octa-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A53, Octa-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A53, or Octa-core (4x2.3 GHz Cortex-A72 & 4x1.8 GHz Cortex A53)
GPU: Adreno 405 , Adreno 505, Mali-T880 MP4, Mali-T830MP3
Screen: is 'IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen' better or worse than 'Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen'
what is a 'Li-Po 3000 mAh battery' - is it any better/worse than a 'Li-ion'
So , can anyone explain which is considered 'better' than the other specs..
Which phone would you consider from my short list... any suggestions of other phones I may've overlooked that have similar basic specs ??
Edit: So many views - no answers
Anyway, Still looking at phones
- what do you think about the Huawei P10 Lite??
Thanxs in advance
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sam00561 said:
My phone is a p2a42 32gb 4gb ram version bought in the UK 3 store and i will in the coming days be listing it on ebay. It is still in very good condition being only 5 months old and always been in a case. I will add the link for the ebay listing once i put it on ebay.
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If I were you, I'd wait a bit until snapdragon 660 devices proliferate the market. The Z Play is almost identical to the P2 specwise. The snapdragon 660 is a significant upgrade in terms performance. It has 4 fast cores (A72) and 4 slow cores (A53) as opposed to 8 A53 cores on the 625. Just wait a bit and I'm sure you can find a device with a better camera and better software support.
medwatt said:
If I were you, I'd wait a bit until snapdragon 660 devices proliferate the market. The Z Play is almost identical to the P2 specwise. The snapdragon 660 is a significant upgrade in terms performance. It has 4 fast cores (A72) and 4 slow cores (A53) as opposed to 8 A53 cores on the 625. Just wait a bit and I'm sure you can find a device with a better camera and better software support.[/QUOTE
I did quite a bit of research before making my decision and should be happy with with the 625 moto because the processor is not really my issue I think the 625 is a very good processor my only problem was the camera and laboured development.Also I think the moto z line has a more premium look to there phones.
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Fully agree with medwatt...
I'll wait for SD660 Device... Seams like Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 Plus will get I decent hardware and I miss my Redmi Note 3 Pro
what if SD660 with the same camera ...what you will decide then ....from what i saw ...these sony Samsung sensors are the main sensor's in the mid range phones
sam00561 said:
I will add the link for the ebay listing once i put it on ebay.
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Please don't do that,selling advertisements are not allowed on Xda.
ok no problem