Firstly, appolgize if wrong thread & I know there's probably many posts asking the same thing...
I'm planning to get a new Mobile - after having a Galaxy S4 (stuck on Android 4 since KNOX trip) since they first came out.
I'm a VERY light user, only using it for occasional text/calls, the occasional game & a little bit of Web Browsing (if I find any free Wifi hotspots)
.. Been looking at 'mid-range' SIM-free phones at about £200-£300 (could go as high as £350-ish IF the phone offers better 'futureproofing) with the following basic specs
5" (or larger) screen
32Mb (or more) / 3Gb (or more) RAM
3000mA battery (or more)
SD Card slot
Android 6/7 (6 as long as there's planned update to 7)
As little bloatware as possible - not too fussed if not quite 'vanilla' android but close to it would be nice
Now at first I narrowed it down to possibly a Moto G4 Plus but I find that the UK version does NOT have a compass, which I believe (wrongly perhaps) is usually essential if you plan to use any sat-nav software (which I occcasionally have to use).
Then I considered waiting for the Nokia 6.. possibly even the Arte Black version (when it FINALLY arrives in the UK) - since it's virtually 'Vanilla' Android & would probably won't have too much Bloatware - but I then read reviews that it can be a 'little laggy' opening apps
Then the Huawei Honor 8 was thought about but then read that some reviewers don't like the Emotion UI very much (not knowing the actual reason why they don't like it I won't know if I'd like it)
& finally the Samsung Galaxy A5 (2017) or Galaxy J7 Pro (if I can find a shop that sells it) is added to my short list but considering how much bloatware was installed on my aging S4 I'm concerned the A5/J7 will also have umpteen apps I will never use installed
Now I know the Moto G4 / Nokia 6 have larger screens than the Honor 8/A5 & the specs are not quite the same between phones (I've been using another website to compare specs.. not sure if allowed to post link/name but hopefully it'll be allowed - GSMARENA) but since I've been out of the Android game for a while - I'm confused over many of the specs
Examples:
Chipset: Which is considered 'better' - a Qualcomm MSM8952 Snapdragon 617, Qualcomm MSM8937 Snapdragon 430, HiSilicon Kirin 950 or Exynos 7880 Octa
CPU: Octa-core (4x1.5 GHz Cortex-A53 & 4x1.2 GHz Cortex-A53), Octa-core 1.4 GHz Cortex-A53, Octa-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A53, or Octa-core (4x2.3 GHz Cortex-A72 & 4x1.8 GHz Cortex A53)
GPU: Adreno 405 , Adreno 505, Mali-T880 MP4, Mali-T830MP3
Screen: is 'IPS LCD capacitive touchscreen' better or worse than 'Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen'
what is a 'Li-Po 3000 mAh battery' - is it any better/worse than a 'Li-ion'
So , can anyone explain which is considered 'better' than the other specs..
Which phone would you consider from my short list... any suggestions of other phones I may've overlooked that have similar basic specs ??
Edit: So many views - no answers
Anyway, Still looking at phones
- what do you think about the Huawei P10 Lite??
Thanxs in advance
Related
The news broke that the samsung galaxy s iii will be arriving to all major us carriers in June. here is the article on the verge.
The official announcement confirms that it will launch with Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 1.5 GHz dual core CPU and 2GB of internal RAM vs the Exynos 4212(5250 need to verify which version they used) 1.4 GHz Quad-core and 1 GB of internal RAM
Can someone that knows what they are talking about tell me if there's a significant difference between the two specs I presented and which one will be faster vs battery consumption?
I am a T-Mobile customer, and looks like the SGSIII is said to come with HSPA+ with 42Mbps+, while the international version will be HSPA+ with 21Mbps+, on paper it is double the speed, what is the difference, is there sufficient coverage? I looked at the map for T-Mobile Data and they only show the strength of signal and don't differentiate the two.
so far here's the only real answer i've gotten on this topic?? anyone agrees?? disagrees? why?
krepler said:
Let me start by saying I'm not a pro when it comes to electronics but I do have an understanding on the subject.
The thing to realize about these processors, and most other processors available today, is that the s4 is based on the cortex a15 while the tegra 3 along with the new Samsung are based on the a9. The a15, at the same Hz and die size is 40% faster than the a9.
S4 = dual core Cortex A15 @ 1.5GHz - 28NM
Tegra3 = quad core Cortex A9 @ 1.5GHz - 40NM
Exynos 4(Samsung) = quad core Cortex A9 @ 1.5GHz - 32NM
S4 so far, in theory, is 40% faster per core, but having two less. Individual apps will run faster unless they utilize all four cores on the tegra3. Because the s4 has a smaller die size, it will consume less energy per core.
The actual technology behind these chips that the manufacturers come up with will also affect the performance output, but the general idea is there. Hope that helps to understand a little better how the two chips will differ in performance.
Sent from my shiny One XL
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sorry if i'm posting in wrong section, I thought of posting it in the GSIII general forum, but only international versions available, I'll get biased answers, my guess is also the SII users at least recent ones won't be upgrading, and I know the HTC One users will just try to make it look like their phone is better. I need an unbiased opinion. lol
I have only used dumb-phones until now and plan to get a smartphone.
I did a little surfing and found Adreno 320 is better than Mali 400 GPU and Qualcomm Snapdragons are better than Samsung Exynos, right?
But in real world they say Note 2 is considered better phone than Nexus 4. I don't understand this.
Different phones top in different benchmarks, and still some things like display quality are not considered in benchmarks i guess, right?
Now I haven't used any smartphone before, and the I would be using it for gaming or watching videos/movies only most of the time as I'm a student.
Which of these phones that I mentioned (all in 23-29,000 INR range) are better than others in reality?
Those who have used these phones or are techsavy might be able to guide me in making the right choice
Just found S3 in India has different specs than in US, Canada etc.
India: 1.4 Ghz Quad-core Exynos 4412,Mali-400,1GB
US: 1.5 Ghz Dual-core Snapdragon, Adreno 225,2GB
Hey All
I think its high time we pay some serious heed to the Asian Sleeping Dragon(s) who have just recently awaken over the past few years.
Below are the current Flagship models of some companies which I have chosen. I am not able to post the full specs links here, but you can google it easily.
This are mainly current top models who are in the market or are very close to being launched. There are a few being launch soon but not included as too little is known about them.
1. Oppo Find 7 5.5" 4G/LTE
Quad Core - Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801 2.5Ghz Krait 400
Adreno 330
3GB Ram
32GB
Approximate price ~ CNY3.498 +
2. Xiaomi Mi4 5.0" 4G/LTE
Quad Core - Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801 2.5Ghz Krait 400
Adreno 330
3GB Ram
32GB
Approximate Price ~ CNY1999+
3. Meizu MX4 (It will be officially annouced on 2nd Sept 2014, hence current specs are not confirmed)
Samsung's octa-core Exynos 5433 SoC
No information on GPU
3GB Ram
Range of internal memory probably starting from 16GB
Estimated Price Tag ~ CNY2,499 +
4. Nubia (ZTE) Z7 5.5" 4G/LTE
Quad Core - Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801 2.5Ghz Krait 400
Adreno 330
3GB Ram
32GB
Approximate price ~ CNY3456
5. Huawei Ascend P7 5.0" 4G/LTE
HiSilicon Kirin 910T Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A9
Mali-450MP4
2GB Ram
16GB
Approximate price ~ CNY2888
Based on the pass few weeks in China, I had personal hands on for the ZTE Z7, Huawei Ascend P7 and Oppo Find 7. All the 7s
The one that actually felt best on my hands (I am 6 feet) was the ZTE 7 and its lesser brother the Z7 max.
I did not have the opportunity to try the Xiaomi Mi4 as it was no where to be seen even after it launched (sold out the minute it released I suppose).
I can only hope that the design was not as bad as the Mi3. For me it looked like the giant version of one of the Ipod nanos a while back
Neither did I have the chance to check out the Meizu MX4 as it was not out yet.
The Xiaomi Mi4 currently ranks as the most value to cost effective phones we have yet seen, given its impressive specs and better looking design on photos (at least way better than the Mi3)
For me I would take the ZTE and Xiaomi anytime based on their similar designs, however I have yet to see the official pictures for the Meizu MX4 (not to be confused with the 4-core model)
In the meantime I am happy with my ZTE Z7 max which cost me CNY1999, lesser screen quality (not 2k resolution, but still 1080p 5.5") and ram (2GB vs Z7 3GB) than the Z7 but everything else is the same.
So choose your poison.
I would take the Xiaomi Mi4 because of MIUI v6 and defenitly more development than the other chinese mentioned phones.
November/December will my HTC One M8 arrive !
So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
No one has a comment?
tasanhalas said:
So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The 801 is certianly superior in GPU, it destroys the Adreno 405. The CPU of the ARMv8 615 will get you better battery life and similar processing speed and could even go faster once devs go full 64 bit. 801 is still the better chipset even if it is older, the GPU makes the difference.
Hero buying advice needed: MXQ PRO 4K VS Scishion V99? New to android boxes, I'm from London and it seems like there are some boxes which aren't available on UK sites for some reason, so was hoping this is the right place to get advice on the boxes I am looking at.
I am looking to stream content in 1080p (I'm happy with the resolution so don't plan on buying a new tv just yet) and started off looking at cheap £15 boxes on ebay which have 1GB of RAM thinking it would be good enough to stream 1080p. But since I am looking for the best value per £ I decided to look at boxes around the £45 mark:
- £46 SCISHION V99 - hero 64Bit Octa Core Android 5.1 (BT4.0 Dual WiFi) 4GB RAM+32GB TV Box EU, Octa Core,1.5GHz CPU RK3368, GPU PowerVR G6110, Processor ARM Cortex A53
- £45 H96 MAX - H2 TV Box RK3328 Android 7.1 (2.4G + 5G Wi-Fi BT 4.0 4K) 4G RAM+32GB UK PLUG, Quad Core CPU Cortex A53, GPU Mali-450, Processor RK3328.
- £46 MXR PRO 4K 4GB RAM + 32G 64Bit Android 7.1 Quad-core RK3328 2.0GHz Bluetooth Quad-core RK3328 64-bit Cortex A53 and Mali-450 GPU.
- I was also considering: £23 M8S PRO W Android 7.1 Smart TV Box Amlogic S-905W 2GB+16GB Mali-450 4K WIFI OTA, max up to 2.0Ghz, but the price has been varying a bit. I would still consider it if it is better value though (and if it came back down in price a bit) due to it being up to 2.0Ghz? Is 2GB RAM enough to smoothly play 1080p?
1) Should I go for the SCISHION V99 due to the octa core to futureproof? From what I've read no apps take advantage of octa core. Would it help with streaming 1080p? Or should I go for the MXR pro because the seller seems to be saying it is up to 2.0 GHz (although when I googled the chip it said 1.5 GHz?) Help needed with pros and cons, as well as discussion on the GPU/CPU power comparisons?
2) The V99 only has Android 5.1, does that mean eventually all apps will stop being compatible, making the box obsolete? Is there no way whatsoever to upgrade to latest android?
3) I am looking to use as a back up as a mini PC, would I be able to plug in a normal PC USB keyboard and mouse or am I restricted to wireless?
4) If that is the case, I was looking at this and again need advice if it these type of products work well: Black Wireless Keyboard 2.4G Touchpad Handheld Keyboard for PC Android TV UK | eBay
5) These type of small Chinese manufacturers are said to not release updates to firmware (as opposed to amazon fire, chromecast etc) but what does this mean practically speaking? How is this different to being able to update the android version for example?