I'm thinking of buying HTC A9s for my parents. Price is quite right (300€), 720p screen, 3GB of RAM and maybe a little bit too small battery.
The only thing that scares me is the processor. I always had Snapdragon, which has a good reputation (minus the 810). The A9s comes with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10. Is it any good? People on the forums keeps saying that it is rubbish, but they never answer to the question why is it rubbish.
What do you guys think? Is it worth spending 300€ on a phone with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10?
Thanks, David
daEXk said:
I'm thinking of buying HTC A9s for my parents. Price is quite right (300€), 720p screen, 3GB of RAM and maybe a little bit too small battery.
The only thing that scares me is the processor. I always had Snapdragon, which has a good reputation (minus the 810). The A9s comes with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10. Is it any good? People on the forums keeps saying that it is rubbish, but they never answer to the question why is it rubbish.
What do you guys think? Is it worth spending 300€ on a phone with Mediatek MT6755 Helio P10?
Thanks, David
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It's something like intel vs amd. Mediatek gets the job done but it isn't something perfect when it comes to performance (For instance 4 core 8xx snapdragon performs a lot better than 10 core mediatek), next problem may be that if somebody find some vulnerability in the chipset, mediatek rather release new model of their soc instead of releasing some security patches + you must consider that the phone with mediatek chipset, most likely won't get any future updates, even custom roms support is poor or even doesn't exist
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There are alot of great Mediatek phones out there and now, since they even have 4G i plan to get one. Haven't decided which one yet.
But the real question is, if its a good decision to go with Mediatek. Some of my friends said that i shouuldn't get one because they are no comparision to qualcom's snapdragons etc. What are pros and cons on those mediateks.
Btw, my phone should be a bit future proof. well,a bit at least. until now i always installed a custom rom on my devices when i had them about a year.
MediaTek is Taiwan based company established in the year 1997.Snapdragon was established in the year 1985. Both of the processors are more of less similar but Snapdragon chipset are made for high multitasking. It does not mean that MTek cannot do multitasking. There are a bunch of 4G enabled SoCs from Mtek. I would prefer you MTek if your budget is less than $300. MTek Processors have not such consistent performance as compared to Snapdragon but now I have seen that MTek processors performance have improved a lot. You can buy a MTek based phone, it would not sad you.
MediaTek marketing strategy is huge production in cheaper price while Snapdragon market strategy is to make best processors with higher capability, without being affectef by the price . At last I want to say you that you shall buy a MTek processor.
Hit thanks if this helps you
If you want to have a proper Custom Rom support you should try to avoid MTK based Devices, because there is often no kernel source available, which means, that you will not be able to change anything kernel related. That might change with the Google One Phones, but you can't be sure.
On the other Hand, they give you a proper Performance at a very cheap price.
So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
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So here is my problem, I'm in need of a new smartphone to replace my Lg 4x hd and plan on spending up to 350€ and I'm really on the fence on where to go:
Last year's 32 bit 801 (in the likes of OnePlus/mi4, etc) or this year's mid-range 64-bit (snap 615, Nubia Z9 mini/Lenovo Vibe Shot)? My new phone would have to last another 2/3 years, and I like to use the phone for all it can provide being it features, switching ROMS and trying new things or games.
Is the performance of the 801 so much better than this 64-bits in Lollipop and eventually M that it won´t make a difference whether it's 32 or 647 bit in 2 years time? Or Will be missing on something for not having a 64 bit processor in the short term?
Thanks for any opinions / discussion
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The 801 is certianly superior in GPU, it destroys the Adreno 405. The CPU of the ARMv8 615 will get you better battery life and similar processing speed and could even go faster once devs go full 64 bit. 801 is still the better chipset even if it is older, the GPU makes the difference.
I just got my Cube talk 9x. I really like it. I know it is old about two years but for me it is new. I have been wanting an octa core tablet just because I am a nerd and just to experience it on a tablet. I do not like Samsung Tablets and certainly did not want to spend that kind of money. I already have an Nvidia K1 and I really like it for a lot of reasons but I wanted a bigger screen and an Octa core processor with longer battery life than my Nvidia. I love the Nvidia but the battery life leaves a lot to be desired.
I did not want to spend a lot of money, $200 being my limit. As you can imagine that does not buy much in larger format tablets. First I started with the cheap amazon octa cores with the Allwiner a83t and the likes of Dragon Touch. Thank God for Amazon prime returns! Those devices were just awful and the Allwinner A83t was not a good processor. I was very wary of buying a tablet direct from China. Heard some horror stories but I took a risk anyway.
Had a bad experience with Gearbest.com but had the Cube talk 9x enough to know it was a good device even though the first one was defective. Dealing with Gear best turned into a PayPal claim.
I tried Geekbuying and had a much better experience.
So now I have my Cube and I received new March 17th update. Of course I was hoping for Lollipop but no. Still on KitKat but I have to say it is very smooth. Very stable build of Android. Ram usage seems very well optimized.
So what makes this tablet special? Well for the cost only one other tablet in this size range has the same amount of ram which is the Lenovo tab2 a10. The Lenovo is nice with a 64 bit quad core cortex a53 media tek processor clocked at 1.7, full HD screen. However the Cube has a 32 bit octa core cortex a7 clocked at 1.7 and a retina screen. The Cube is made from a solid Aluminum body while the Lenovo is plastic. The Cube also has gorilla glass 2 while the Lenovo just has glass. Acer has a new 10.1" tab with a mediatek 8151 cortex a53 octa core processor and 1 GB ram and a 1280 x 800 screen. Unfortunately the low res screen and 1 GB of ram really hurt the user experience. The acer also feels cheap and is full of pre loaded apps. I bought the Acer only to return it because of the glitchy or defective WiFi and other things I mentioned.
Of course you could spend a lot more and have a super experience but I just can't justify $500 or more on a tablet. My computer costs about that much.
The Cube seems really well made. The updates after 2 years since it's release from a no name company is impressive as some of the brands I have had above barely udate their tablets. I still think Cube should release Lollipop but KitKat works well.
This tablet has the 1.7 GHz octa core processor, 2 gigs of ram, retina screen, 3g, 16 gig ROM, stereo speakers at the bottom of the tablet, 10,000 mah battery. Pretty impressive specs even for an older device. The limitations of the of the device are the 32 bit a7 cores used are better for power efficiency than performance. The newer mediatek 8151 which has the newer cortex 64 bit a53 cores perform much better while still being rather power efficient. For example the Acer with only 1gb or ram scored over 37,000 points on Anutu while the talk 9x with double the ram scored only 28,000 points roughly. Acer did a very good job of optimizing the ROM on their tablet. The Cube T9 has the newer octa core processor but it was over my price range.
However this tablet stock unrooted performs really well. There was not a lot of junk apps installed and most apps give you an option to install to SD card. Really the only drawback to this tablet is the partitioning. Seems like a common practice on the tablets from China. Not sure why. A horrible practice. You can root the device and try to repartition it but you could also brick the device in the process. The mediatek tools at not the easiest for me to use so I am not going to go there. Specially when the tablet runs great .
So I highly recommend this tablet with a couple of caveats. It is at the end of its life so it is really cheap but if you think it will be updated to Marshmallow or N you can forget it. Lollipop could happn but I would not hold my breath. The 2 gig app limit really sucks and there is no easy way to solve the problem.
So if you are looking for an amazing device for a good price I do not know of a better deal anywhere. Is the Octacore hype. Personally I don't think so. Sure there is marketing hype but the Octacore really feels snappy while the huge battery makes it last!
There are not a lot of these devices left. Seems Cube is now focused on dual boot tablets with Intel processors. I wish they would come out with a new octacore processor android tablet like the Nvidia x1 or the newer cortex a53 octa core from mediated. The t9 if you can find it would perform even better but the build quality and aluminum frame just really make this an enjoyable experience. If you want one I would act now.
Thanks for the first details of the tablet. Have you had a chance to test battery life yet?
I haven't let it run down yet. The lowest I got was to 79%. The charger and cable that come with the device are pretty much useless. Using a Lenovo 2amp tablet charger seems to charge pretty quickly. It does not have fast charge but so far it seems to charge up pretty fast and last pretty long. I will try and see if I can run down the battery to give a better approximation of the run time.
Vivo has launched this new gaming smartphone Y73 with Mediatek Helio G95 processor and 8GB RAN + Extendable RAM features. What do you think?
This extendable RAM feature seems pretty good for heavy users and Helio G95 chipset is also a good option for both gamers and regular users.
The price of the helio G95 powered Vivo Y73 might seem a bit much at first but then you have to realize that it has a really good camera setup for a phone that is in the mid-range.
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The price of the helio G95 powered Vivo Y73 might seem a bit much at first but then you have to realize that it has a really good camera setup for a phone that is in the mid-range.
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Yeah, right. This mediatek-powered smartphone also has some new features as well which make it really cool for the gamers and those who love photography.
Imo the Vivo Y73 really is a stylish looking phone. The camera, battery, mediatek processor -- all are great
Yeah, more smartphones like Vivo Y53s have arrived with a Mediatek gaming chipset and the extendable RAM features. Vivo is doing well.
whats's the price of this phone?
I was looking to buy a new mid-range phone.... I have been using snapdragon phones since I remember using android phones.
I was torn between Mi 11 lite NE and Poco X5 pro when a friend recommended me the Redmi k50i with the flagship mediatek dimensity 8100
When i compared the benchmarks of snapdragon 778g with dimensity 8100 it was way better.
I've heard its better to go with snapdragon devices for long term stability......
I'm not looking to do any hardcore gaming, but i do like to keep using my phones for a long time.
Are there any drawbacks both software and hardware wise going for mediatek or is it just a market hype ?
Generally I'd rather stay with Qualcomm/Snapdragon.
Mediatek sounds often very nice and is reasonably cheap (unlike overpriced qualcomm) but in the long run it is dead end.
I didn't listen to such wise advice myself, so I made this very mistake twice and went Mediatek (1st time being curious, 2nd time being scientifically thorough, lol): Every time updates ended very soon (less than 2 yrs).
By now, if a device is/was not listed at
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
I won't buy it.
If you check the details there, most things are qualcomm.
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Generally I'd rather stay with Qualcomm/Snapdragon.
Mediatek sounds often very nice and is reasonably cheap (unlike overpriced qualcomm) but in the long run it is dead end.
I didn't listen to such wise advice myself, so I made this very mistake twice and went Mediatek (1st time being curious, 2nd time being scientifically thorough, lol): Every time updates ended very soon (less than 2 yrs).
By now, if a device is/was not listed at
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
I won't buy it.
If you check the details there, most things are qualcomm.
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is there any other reason other than updates ?
like software support or maybe some hardware issues ?
tbh i am tempted by mediatek 8100 because it is comparable to snapdragon 888 in benchmarks while the other devices in similar range are snapdragon 778
I am not a dev but, yes, my two failed attempts included software and hardware (edit: or rather driver) issues.
Last time I was impressed by their Helio chip, now it's you with 8100...
You mentioned "using my phones for a long time", I think this automatically excludes Mediatek (roms/devs/support, where a LOS-listing is a good indicator) but please check yourself:
https://www.kimovil.com/en/list-smartphones-by-processor-group/dimensity-8100
Can you find those devices at XDA? Are they well supported?
Just telling... please do not learn from my mistakes, make your own