Galaxy S10E or the Mi 9 - Samsung Galaxy S10e Questions & Answers

Straight to the point, I'm looking to purchase one of the phones but I'm not sure which to get. I'm mostly looking into the selfie camera and XDA support so yeah not sure which one

Supracer said:
Straight to the point, I'm looking to purchase one of the phones but I'm not sure which to get. I'm mostly looking into the selfie camera and XDA support so yeah not sure which one
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I will go for Xiaomi mi 9. Wide angle camera, Dual SIM, Amoled, My mother toung, Call recorder and great price. Only missing 3.5 aux but I will survive. BB Oneplus....

My list:
Mi9: Most likely better AOSP support, cheaper
S10E: better screen, 3,5 jack, smaller size

I'm also thinking about buying either the Mi9 or S10E. At the moment, I'm slightly leaning towards the Mi9 because of the price and also because I don't really like Samsung's software.
That being said, Samsung has improved radically over the past years and Xiaomi is not exactly delivering mint Android either.
As for the size: Would love to buy the Mi9 SE but it looks like it's not going to be available in Europe and that it will also lack the necessary 4G bands to make it work properly.

ljo13 said:
I'm also thinking about buying either the Mi9 or S10E. At the moment, I'm slightly leaning towards the Mi9 because of the price and also because I don't really like Samsung's software.
That being said, Samsung has improved radically over the past years and Xiaomi is not exactly delivering mint Android either.
As for the size: Would love to buy the Mi9 SE but it looks like it's not going to be available in Europe and that it will also lack the necessary 4G bands to make it work properly.
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Would definitely go for the Mi9. Depending on region Samsung has decided to use their Exynos variant in comparison to Snapdragon 855.
We all know the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 855 but with regards to power efficiency, we are still unsure. Last years Galaxy S9 Exynos variant suffered from severe battery issues which ultimately resulted in me returning my S9 within the cooling off period.
The Mi 9 is very attractive with its Snapdragon 855 and scores well on gsmarena battery test even beating the p20 pro (4000mah) which I currently own and would not sell apart from sh** selfie camera being worst ever. Ultimately Samsungs decision to only ship Exynos variant phones within the UK is a shocking one.
We should be given the choice

Mi9 I've just received mine.
I was going to get the S10+ but when I seen this and the price tag my mind was made.
Screen is great,cameras front and back are brilliant, it's so fast and smooth it's unreal. Fingerprint scanner is very good it's so quick and accurate nothing like OnePlus 6t that was dreadful for me.
Only think this device doesn't have for me is dual speakers, IP rating, SD slot.

Buy Mi9 Only if you dont mind the lack of OIS....camera at night is a joke.i sell mine for that after just 24 hours!!!

Z953RR said:
Buy Mi9 Only if you dont mind the lack of OIS....camera at night is a joke.i sell mine for that after just 24 hours!!!
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Agreed, camera so far one of the aspects I'm slightly less pleased with, especially coming from the Pixel 2 xl. However, a Mi 8 gcam port works already and so does night sight, which even though its not meant for this device works pretty well. So I'm definitely gonna be patient and follow its development as great things await us I believe! Would be great if we can use the telephoto and wide angle cameras with the gcam port!

I have installed gcam in mi9 with night mode... quality better BUT NOT with low light.you need a tripod ..theres not optical image stabilization (hardware)

mulkman said:
Would definitely go for the Mi9. Depending on region Samsung has decided to use their Exynos variant in comparison to Snapdragon 855.
We all know the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 855 but with regards to power efficiency, we are still unsure. Last years Galaxy S9 Exynos variant suffered from severe battery issues which ultimately resulted in me returning my S9 within the cooling off period.
The Mi 9 is very attractive with its Snapdragon 855 and scores well on gsmarena battery test even beating the p20 pro (4000mah) which I currently own and would not sell apart from sh** selfie camera being worst ever. Ultimately Samsungs decision to only ship Exynos variant phones within the UK is a shocking one.
We should be given the choice
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I'm not so sure about "Exynos" is faster than 855, of course maybe Samsung phones with Exynos feel faster than Snapdragon?

ted presley said:
I'm not so sure about "Exynos" is faster than 855, of course maybe Samsung phones with Exynos feel faster than Snapdragon?
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This years exynos has also failed in terms of battery life.
The snapdragon 855 is way more efficient than the exynos

mulkman said:
This years exynos has also failed in terms of battery life.
The snapdragon 855 is way more efficient than the exynos
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Exynos is only better in singlecore (multicore is faster in 855) but exynos does that at the expense of a lot of heat and battery. Also the GPU in 855 is like 2 generations better than exynos.
yes, my s9+ exynos still does beat the mi9 in single core. but the s9+ gets beaten in gpu tests even by my older mix 2 NON S (snapdragon 835!!.. not 845!!) 855 gpu is a beast. Exynos s10 gpu is just slighty better than s9 exynos because they did improve the power per core.. but removed like 40% of the cores... (g72mp18 vs g76mp12)
and that single core perf. is irrelevant.. My mix2 with a good rom is AT LEAST as fast as the s9+ in app opening, web surfing etc.. believe I tested.

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After using your mate 8 would you recommend others to buy one?

I was wondering right now after you have used mate 8 for quite some time Would you recommend others to do so?
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Yes. I bought a nexus 6p rooted it and loved it but the moment I picked up the mate 8, I haven't taken the 6p out of its box. And the 6p is a great phone
Yes I would definitely suggest to get one?
Best android phone i ever had but best to try it before purchase to check if the size is Ok.
Aboslutely YES!
I got a 128Gb NXT-AL10.. Installed International firmware, TWRP and rooted.
TOP PHONE!
yep, i think i would have regretted getting the 6P (which i intended to buy at first) when the mate 8´s specs became public
awesome phone and not looking back!
only 3 things to consider:
-can you deal with the size? true, its got a nice screen-to-body ratio with tiny bezels, but its still a big phone!
- secondly, can you arrange yourself with EMUI? and if not, are you willing to tinker with the system to adjust it to your needs and wants?
- lastly, the GPU is "only" mainstream, so if u want highend graphics and are a mobile gamer, u might want to wait for upcoming SD or exynos devices...
on the other hand, if your focus is primarily on battery life, super smooth day to day operation, the fastest mobile cpu on the planet (indeed, even faster than upcoming SD820 and exynos8890!) a HUGE display with superthin bezels and super crisp, clear and vivid colors, then this is definitely for you!
Got a Mocha Gold 4/64gb version and I simply love the phone. Since I have been using Mi Note Pro before, I do not see whats wrong with Huawei's EMUI (albeit tons of complaints web-wide).
Not too sure about mainstream reviews, but mine came along with a rapid charger and flip case+generic screen protector. Some online reviews were *****ing about not having the rapid charger in the package.
On the other hand, for the un-initiated, the GPU on the mate 8 may look like crap vs the SD or Exynos. But after testing it on my Mi Note Pro (SD 810 SoC), I discovered the Mate 8 does not throttle (or a little) when compared to it, after prolonged game play.
My Mi Note Pro, starts to heats up really fast and you can tell the throttling a few minutes into GPU intensive games.
I am not sure about Exynos or the latest SD820 SoC devices, but based on Tom's hardwareRead the Article here
Quote:
"Looking at these results adds new context to HiSilicon's decision to use a quad-core GPU in the Kirin 950. By focusing on sustained performance rather than peak performance, a somewhat risky decision from a marketing standpoint, the Kirin 950 actually provides similar, if not better, performance after a few minutes of gameplay as compared to some other high-end SoCs, such as the Exynos 7420 or Snapdragon 810, at least when paired with a 1080p display like in the Mate 8."
In fact I am very pleased with its Antutu Benchmark results, boasting 97k by another member in another thread, with mine somewhere around 92k stock un-modded.
Cheerios!!
Does the Mate 8 have multi-user profiles by default? If not are you able to somehow activate them?
I wouldn't recommend because of the notifications bug. People who don't dive deep into settings will miss emails, messages, etc.
In this case, this is not a mate 8 bug but an android 6 bug.
See posts about nexus 6p and others
I would recommend it to most people. If having the best camera is important to you then I would pass. Everything else is great with the phone except the camera doesn't take sharp enough photos. They look sharp on the phone screen but transfer them anywhere else and you'll see how sharp they aren't compared to other phones.
That's an issue, that hopefully will soon be fixed!
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review/8
Why you conisder a rooted phone is great .

S7 Edge blue vs OnePlus 3T 128GB soft gold

Hi all,
I just saw the announcement of the upcoming OnePlus 3t and I have to admit it's a damn beautiful phone with awesome specs. Actualy I wanted to buy the S7 Edge dual Sim in blue (It reminds me on the Note 7. R.I.P:angel but now I have to admit that the OnePlus 3T, esp. the 128Gb version in soft gold is a competitor that doesn't make it easy for me to make a decision.
I'm comparing the S7 Edge Dual Sim version in blue (available on ebay with higher price than in other colours) and the OnePlus 3T with 128GB.
I compared both and made 2 lists with categories where I think each phone has his strenghts
S7 Edge Winner Points
Camera
Battery 3.600 vs. 3400
Screen to Body Ratio 76,09% vs. 73,15%
Water resistant
OnePlus 3T Winner Points
Performance 6GB Snapdragon 821 vs. 4 GB Exynos 8890
Memory 128GB vs. 32GB (Sd-Card Extension only possible with hack)
Price 479€ vs. 610€
Dash Charge
Things that I have problem with making an assessment are:
Look & Feel: How does each phones lies in you hand. Which one looks and feels more premium for you? What are your opinions?
OS: Which OS do you like more? I'm comparing the upcoming Android N versions of both phones. Oxygen OS looks promising on pictures. The upcoming Grace UI, I have to admit, I love the design. Ive never thought that I would say this to a Samsung phone with Touchwiz. And I have the feeling Samsung has more customizing options and build in tools. What do you think? Especially I'm curios of the opinion of Samsung/ OnePlus Beta Users and/or the user with Note 7 experience.
So what dou you think? I know that we are discussing here in the Samsung part, but hey they are just phones not a women that we are comparing
It's really hard. The water resistant is in my personal opinion the only reason to buy the s 7 edge.
But it's your choice. I would buy the one plus.
But as I say, it's on you, what do you like more, camera or performance, water resistant or metal body? The s7e is sensitive like a newborn.
Do you need storage?
Good battery?
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grossermanitu said:
OnePlus 3T Winner Points
Performance 6GB Snapdragon 821 vs. 4 GB Exynos 8890
Exynos 8890 is better than the 821, unless you game (821 has better GPU)
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exynos 8890 fails vs snap 820. Look at benches, I would take the new oneplus or wait till jan feb for the newer chipsets to show up.
travis82 said:
exynos 8890 fails vs snap 820. Look at benches, I would take the new oneplus or wait till jan feb for the newer chipsets to show up.
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In GPU yes, CPU no
820 wins in Antutu for example simply because of the GPU. 8890 wins in single and multi core performance. 8890 also uses less energy than the 820/821
Okay I made my decision. The Edge wins for me. I'll miss the 128gb internal storage & the 6gb of Ram, damn, but the edge display and Grace UX are looking just to good that I'll go for my first Samsung device. Emotions win over logic [emoji41]
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Have to agree with you
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grossermanitu said:
Okay I made my decision. The Edge wins for me. I'll miss the 128gb internal storage & the 6gb of Ram, damn, but the edge display and Grace UX are looking just to good that I'll go for my first Samsung device. Emotions win over logic [emoji41]
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No doubt you'll enjoy this piece of elegant hardware.

Xiaomi Mi4 worth getting in 2017?

I recently got my Nexus 6P (64GB) stolen and I'm thinking of getting the Mi4 since I'm on a tight budget. I'm also considering getting a Redmi 3S but it's a bit expensive compared to the Mi4 being an older device. I haven't used a custom rom ever since I used a Note 5, iPhone 6 Plus and Nexus 6P and I'm thinking of using a custom rom if I do get the Mi4. So do you guys think the Mi4 is still worth getting in 2017?
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
Snapdragon 801 seems plenty fast to me, I'm not trying to play VR games on my phone after all. Maybe some people are?
P.Kosunen said:
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
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Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
gemmoglock said:
Unfortunately no. The Mi4 uses a Snapdragon 801 which here: http://www.gsmarena.com/mobile_chipset_guide-review-1561p4.php does worse than many other newer lower-end chipsets. So get phones with Snapdragon 6XX for better value and future proofing
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OK, so, which one is better than the Redmi 4 at $175 (current price)?
Which one is better than a Oneplus One for under $300?
I've had a Oneplus One since shortly after they were released. Looking to upgrade eventually, once I can get something with: USB C, better battery life, better camera - for $300 or less.
critofur said:
Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
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https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi4-with-two-different-camera-sensors-sony-or-samsung.33572/
Can't find other one with Google, too much results. IIRC it was in en.miui.com.
As a mi4 user myself, I do not recommend it this day. This device is very good incase of build quality and battery life but it is outdated. You can at least go for Mi4c ( if I'm not mistaken, the one with sd 808 and 3 gigs of ram ) It will get Nougat too in summer maybe.
still works fine
it all depends on your usage of the phone. If you're looking into playing games then the SD801 might be not enough any more. If you need all LTE bands working, the MI4 wouldn't be the right thing.
cons:
-- gpu performance not up to par with current gpu's
-- different versions of the phone without LTE or only band 1,3
- only qualcomm quick charge 2.0
pro:
++ 5 inch JDI IPS screen is still top (1080p)
++ 13MP rear camera with sony sensor (IMX214 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ 8MP front camera with sony sensor (IMX219 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ build quality is top
+ 3080mAh battery is good enough
for me the best thing is the community support: you still get all sorts of custom roms including the latest nougat updates (check the MI3 forum, they are mostly working for the MI4 too).
gemmoglock said:
Unfortunately no. The Mi4 uses a Snapdragon 801 which here: http://www.gsmarena.com/mobile_chipset_guide-review-1561p4.php does worse than many other newer lower-end chipsets. So get phones with Snapdragon 6XX for better value and future proofing
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P.Kosunen said:
What i've heard, also camera in these new cheap ones is not as good as at launch with Sony sensor.
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critofur said:
Snapdragon 801 seems plenty fast to me, I'm not trying to play VR games on my phone after all. Maybe some people are?
Really? That seems kind of underhanded. Do you have a source?
OK, so, which one is better than the Redmi 4 at $175 (current price)?
Which one is better than a Oneplus One for under $300?
I've had a Oneplus One since shortly after they were released. Looking to upgrade eventually, once I can get something with: USB C, better battery life, better camera - for $300 or less.
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P.Kosunen said:
https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/mi4-with-two-different-camera-sensors-sony-or-samsung.33572/
Can't find other one with Google, too much results. IIRC it was in en.miui.com.
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0perat0r said:
As a mi4 user myself, I do not recommend it this day. This device is very good incase of build quality and battery life but it is outdated. You can at least go for Mi4c ( if I'm not mistaken, the one with sd 808 and 3 gigs of ram ) It will get Nougat too in summer maybe.
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knoxwalles said:
it all depends on your usage of the phone. If you're looking into playing games then the SD801 might be not enough any more. If you need all LTE bands working, the MI4 wouldn't be the right thing.
cons:
-- gpu performance not up to par with current gpu's
-- different versions of the phone without LTE or only band 1,3
- only qualcomm quick charge 2.0
pro:
++ 5 inch JDI IPS screen is still top (1080p)
++ 13MP rear camera with sony sensor (IMX214 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ 8MP front camera with sony sensor (IMX219 with f 1,8), not many top devices can beat that.
++ build quality is top
+ 3080mAh battery is good enough
for me the best thing is the community support: you still get all sorts of custom roms including the latest nougat updates (check the MI3 forum, they are mostly working for the MI4 too).
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Sorry for the super late reply, been busy with my studies. Anyway I got myself a Redmi 4A instead due to unexpected circumstances that killed my budget (lol). I don't really play games on my phone so I guess this would do for now. I'll save up and probably get something better by the end of this year or earlier next year. Though the Redmi 4A battery life is pretty good but I do miss the large screen, stereo speakers, and camera of the 6P *sobs*

Samsung is working on a Galaxy S8 Active, according to Netflix

Samsung IS working on a Galaxy S8 Active, according to Netflix...
It seems that despite both the current and last generation of Samsung Galaxy flagships being waterproof, Samsung still doesn't want to let go of the "Active" sub-brand of durable and weatherproof phones.
Details have leaked online of the Galaxy S8 Active with the codename Cruiser and the model number SM-G892A. Now, however, Netflix appears to have outed the fact that this particular model number supports HD streaming by referencing it in a support document.
And now we've got a set of leaked live photos of the handset, giving our best view of it to date. It showed up on multiple Reddit posts, in a video on YouTube (below), and via Android Central's forums. We get a good look at the front and back of the device and, unsurprisingly,it's very similar to the regular Galaxy S8 aesthetic, although it has that polycarbonate build and is noticably chunkier; 1.5x thicker, in fact.
YaserZ said:
We get a good look at the front and back of the device and, unsurprisingly,it's very similar to the regular Galaxy S8 aesthetic, although it has that polycarbonate build and is noticably chunkier; 1.5x thicker, in fact.
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it has a 4,000 mAh battery. FANTASTIC.
Also exynos chip
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Also exynos chip
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Wait, are you sure? Even though it's an AT&T release?
This link says Snapdragon.
http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/s...d-non-curved-display-battery-leaks-36157.html
The*Galaxy S8 Active*runs Android 7.0 Nougat and lacks an underwater camera mode like last year's S7 Active.The handset is powered by Snapdragon 835 SoC coupled with 4GB RAM and 64GB expandable storage
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As does this one:
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/24/samsung-galaxy-s8-active-leaked-images/
The leaker supposedly got ahold of the phone from a pal who works for Samsung. Internally, the phone is pretty similar to the standard*S8*and has a Snapdragon 835 CPU, 4GB of RAM and 64GB of storage
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I was going by this https://www.sammobile.com/2017/06/23/galaxy-s8-active-specs-surface-yet-again/
drew272011 said:
I was going by this https://www.sammobile.com/2017/06/23/galaxy-s8-active-specs-surface-yet-again/
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Would be good if it's Exynos, so bootloader could be unlocked. But since it's an AT&T exclusive, I doubt it. Probably Snapdragon 835 (with locked down bootloader), like all the other North America S8.
I'll be happy to be wrong!
I would switch from tmobile if its true

Should I wait for Oneplus 7t pro? Or buy 7 Pro now?

I have recently sold my Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus to get the Oneplus 7 pro, which I haven't bought it yet, however passing through comments and reviews on YouTube, some say that the 7T will be released really soon, but it will be focused on 5G capability.
I really don't care about 5G, but what about the processor? SD855+ which is slightly overclocked.
While now the 7 is cheaper than it was when it's first released... Should I wait?
Any comments and advices are welcome!
you will get a slightly faster cpu which our phones max out every game out there already. They might use an under screen camera. What else can you do to a phone? Phones have tapped out. All they can do now is add gimmicky ****.
They said they are keeping the same design of the oneplus 7 pro. Probably 855+ which 100% of people will not see a different just a few numbers higher in benchmarks. Add water resistant ip rating and wireless charging. Maybe a new faster charger since oneplus is now beat by the note 10+ with only their 25w charger. Maybe screen push to 120hz. But who knows. All this are my thought. But they definitly keep the same pop up camera design
7 T will release in october or november, depends when it will be ready.
5G network it's a joke now !
7 pro T can't have too much new hardware/options.
Could be More Expensive than 7 pro...
Wait for the pixel 4. Camera is still better. While we use gcam to get a better photo. Pixels just use the original gcam without a mess
I don't even buy a pone in the fall as you're getting a phone with an SoC (SD855) that will be replaced with a new SoC in just 3 months or so. I'm not paying full price for a phone that will be outdated so soon after buying it. Buying the phones in the spring lets you have the latest tech for a year before anything new comes out. I've bought 3 OP phones now, OP5, OP6, and the OP 7pro. I would never spend my money on a T version. When I buy the regular version nothing the whole rest of the year will have a better SoC sooo!?
It's like buying a car in August, you wouldn't want to pay new car price when it's about to be a leftover as the new models are coming out.
OnePlus 7 Pro for the win now! You could always sell it later if you see something better...
Do wish they would flatten out the screen a little more....the curve screen on the 7pro is difficult to view under light because of the reflection on the sides.
maisanfabregas said:
I have recently sold my Samsung Galaxy S9 Plus to get the Oneplus 7 pro, which I haven't bought it yet, however passing through comments and reviews on YouTube, some say that the 7T will be released really soon, but it will be focused on 5G capability.
I really don't care about 5G, but what about the processor? SD855+ which is slightly overclocked.
While now the 7 is cheaper than it was when it's first released... Should I wait?
Any comments and advices are welcome!
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Yes buy overclocking if you wanna keep divice for 1 year. After one year you have higher chance of dying cpu.
siuraczewski said:
Yes buy overclocking if you wanna keep divice for 1 year. After one year you have higher chance of dying cpu.
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The SD855+ is a newer version of the SD855 that increases the speed of the core.
People just callout overclocked, but Qualcomm has increased the clock and certified functionality and longevity at that new increase in. speed.
They will essentially be the same thing. I'd get the 7pro now, but if you can wait and can spend the extra ~$200 the 7Tpro will be great too.

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