I created this thread so we can discuss build quality of the essential and any issues/defects with the device. Let's hope Essential at least got QC right after getting so much wrong...
Just got my device. First thing I noticed was it has a little backlight bleeding. It's not horrible but there is a little there
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graffixnyc said:
Just got my device. First thing I noticed was it has a little backlight bleeding. It's not horrible but there is a little there
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Hmm. Any updates download? And the big question; how is shutter lag and low light photos?
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Hmm. Any updates download? And the big question; how is shutter lag and low light photos?
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Haven't tested it yet. I'm still setting it up, installing my apps and what not.
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Here are some pics showing the light bleed
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I don't have any backlight bleed, but my screen does have quite a few dead pixels. Rest of the device seems really nice.
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I don't have any backlight bleed, but my screen does have quite a few dead pixels. Rest of the device seems really nice.
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Ouch.. Yeah I'd definitely prefer to have a little backlight bleeding that I only see when the screen is black over dead pixels. Are you going to try to get a replacement?
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I don't have any backlight bleed, but my screen does have quite a few dead pixels. Rest of the device seems really nice.
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thats not good and I have a feeling trying to get a replacement will be a hugeeee pain in the arse
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Ouch.. Yeah I'd definitely prefer to have a little backlight bleeding that I only see when the screen is black over dead pixels. Are you going to try to get a replacement?
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Yeah, going to try and get a replacement. (or return within 15, if thats my only option) As Sloth mentioned - I don't imagine this will be an enjoyable experience.
Light bleed and dead pixels are not acceptable imo. I'll be sending mine back if it has any type of defects.
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Light bleed and dead pixels are not acceptable imo. I'll be sending mine back if it has any type of defects.
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It looks like the light bleed isnt that bad though
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It looks like the light bleed isnt that bad though
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No, it's really not. I only notice it when the phone boots up. I emailed them to see what they said. In my experience with IPS displays, they have always had bleeding to some extent or another. LG was notorious for backlight bleeding on their older devices at least
The light bleed isn't that bad.
For dead pixels, how may dead pixels do you have? There is a certain number that is still within specifications. Also, are the deal pixels black or bright?
god, i hope dead pixels don't start to become an issue. in this day and age that's really a deal-breaker whether it's within specifications or not.
Light bleed would be a huge issue for me. Not for what i paid for this phone, and knowing the customer service they have. I'll just send it back.
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No, it's really not. I only notice it when the phone boots up. I emailed them to see what they said. In my experience with IPS displays, they have always had bleeding to some extent or another. LG was notorious for backlight bleeding on their older devices at least
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In my experience, I think every IPS display I've had has had varying degrees of light bleed.
Dead pixels will drive me insane.
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The light bleed isn't that bad.
For dead pixels, how may dead pixels do you have? There is a certain number that is still within specifications. Also, are the deal pixels black or bright?
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I have two completely dead pixels. Top center of the screen. You can see them with the phone completely off, which is odd. (Might be dust under the glass, though doesn't look like that)
I also have 3 stuck / super bright pixels. These are all clustered in the top right.
Build quality as in feel is great
Build quality as in workmanship is horrible.
Backlight bleed here too. Also:
Essential should have specified far better quality work for the titanium on this phone. It looks like Foxcon just used course grit sandpaper to round the edges of the phone and it both looks and feels terrible. It is such an annoyance that even after 2 days of use I still cant get used to it and every time I ahve the phone in my hand I feel like it is a piece of junk. I had originally decided to give it 2 days before I made up my mind about this but now after 2 days I still hate it too much. Ill give it the week but if I still cant get used to it then the phone is going back
You've said that but aren't showing us what you mean, does it look rough or just feel rough in the hand? Is it intentional to add grip or is it uneven and visually bad?
Maybe titanium has a more coarse feeling in the hand than machined aluminum since nothing else has used it before?
As for Dead Pixels, yea I don't care what the standard for acceptance is on that, if the number is =>1 I will send it back. Light bleed I can handle, but even a single pixel is a freaking eyesore on a $700 device. Hell No.
No company is immune from them but I will not accept it from any. Heck I got a $39 tablet from the Windows Store with a 1920x1200 screen and it had a bunch. Got it replaced (I think Just the screen as it looks like its been opened/put together again lol) but the replacement screen is perfect now.
EniGmA1987 said:
Build quality as in feel is great
Build quality as in workmanship is horrible.
Backlight bleed here too. Also:
Essential should have specified far better quality work for the titanium on this phone. It looks like Foxcon just used course grit sandpaper to round the edges of the phone and it both looks and feels terrible. It is such an annoyance that even after 2 days of use I still cant get used to it and every time I ahve the phone in my hand I feel like it is a piece of junk. I had originally decided to give it 2 days before I made up my mind about this but now after 2 days I still hate it too much. Ill give it the week but if I still cant get used to it then the phone is going back
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How did you get 2 days back? everyone is getting just delivered today.
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Just got my TP today, I like it very much but what I don't like is the Yelowish display.
I had a Kaiser before and the display was lovely Blueish and very bright.
Is this normal for TP to have Yelowish display? or should I take it back for exchange?
Pleas advice
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Just got my TP today, I like it very much but what I don't like is the Yelowish display.
I had a Kaiser before and the display was lovely Blueish and very bright.
Is this normal for TP to have Yelowish display? or should I take it back for exchange?
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Does not sound normal to me, better have it exchanged!
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Does not sound normal to me, better have it exchanged!
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Just read the following thread in the diamond forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411487
It seems that some of the Diamond have Yellowish display and some with the Blueish display.
Very confusing.
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Seems that I am the only one with this problem since there are 41 views and only one reply
Thank you
My new TP is surprisingly being the same condition as you. It attracted me cos its VGA screen. However, compare with my old 818pro, it does not get bit advantage on screen, but come out yellowish.
Do you seem to feel excessive overheating with your phone?
Do you leave it on the charger for a long time?
Do you use non-OEM batteries?
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Do you seem to feel excessive overheating with your phone?
Do you leave it on the charger for a long time?
Do you use non-OEM batteries?
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What is all the above got to do with a Yellowish display tint?
no yellow tint here... I mean this sounds strange...
It's probably the same situation as with the Diamond- 2 different suppliers for the screens. If more people chime in then maybe we can see if there are more people who've stayed silent but also have yellowish screens. Mine is white and bright, but I've had my TP for a month and it's probably from a different batch.
Mine is slightly more yellow compared to my Tytn, but nothing annoying.
Hmm mine isn't yellowish, but i do have other screen problems, like teksts that seem to "Burn in" or are still visible on the volume control screen...
Do you also have that problem or only the yellowish ?
A picture is worth a million words, let us see what your talking about. A yellowish screen could be cause by a bad or broken screen cable like it would happen on some laptops after time but that on the phone doesn't sound normal at all especially a new one. If you post a picture maybe we can see your problem. I haven't got mine yet so I have no idea what users are talking about when they say mine is sometimes yellowish or blue.
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Hmm mine isn't yellowish, but i do have other screen problems, like teksts that seem to "Burn in" or are still visible on the volume control screen...
Do you also have that problem or only the yellowish ?
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This is not a screen problem, only the volumescreen that is semi transparant.
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This is not a screen problem, only the volumescreen that is semi transparant.
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its also visible on the boot screen that says "Touch Pro" so it must be a screen / software problem
Thank you all for your replies, I took the phone to HTC and compared it with other phones there and they were all the same.
Seems that they use different types of display or from another manufacturer.
So I just returned it to them and got my mony back as I discovered this before I use the phone.
I did notice that the device they had there as a demo evice was different than mine and the display was like the Kaiser display but they refused to give me another device as the phone is working properly.
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Um, better get it exchanged then pal...
Yellowish LCD and terrible in different angle-viewing
Yellowish LCD and terrible in different Viewing-angle!
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I know that I'm not the only one reporting this, but I'm the first one to provide pictures and video that prove that the problem is not so small as some might think.
It seems HTC started to use lower quality LCD screens with some (maybe all) of the newer Diamond units. These screens have a yellowish tint, and seem to have lower contrast.
Here is the proof (it's a comparison with my old Kaiser):
(both devices are at maximum backlight, and the Diamond's "auto backlight" option is off)
Pictures:
http://img45.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10590_Picture_003_122_764lo.jpg
http://img24.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=10597_Picture_005_122_672lo.jpg
The difference seen in the picture is a bit exaggarated in comparison to what I see in real life (even though I did not touch the picture with any editing software, this is right from the camera), so I've included a video too, which more accurately portray the differences:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cVGORLm-Qc
(in real life the difference is just a bit more pronounced than in this video)
It is important to notice that without a direct comparison to a unit like the Kaiser (or the first batch of Diamonds), it might be hard to know that your Diamond has this phenomena, because even with this phenomena the screen look decent.
My fear is that both types of LCD screens are going to sell with new Diamond units from now on, making those who bought the yellowish screen unable to ever sell the unit for a decent amount of money (when they feel like upgrading).
We need a formal answer from HTC regarding this issue.
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Here are two Diamonds I have on me right now. Notice the color washout on one of it. Both are having the same ROM and brightness settings.
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i just received my replacement touch pro, and the screen is very yellowish, compared to the crisp white screen of my older one... anyone else experience this? i'm going to have to call sprint and have them mail me another one.
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Me too, I was sending my TP to repair after using it for 2 months, due some really dissapointed problem like the LCD screen bottom corner peeling off and sliding keyboard starting to become not align with the body.
So they said they're going to replace the LCD 1st and return to me while waiting for the new stock of sliding keyboard. So I just got back my TP from SIS (HTC Malaysian Distributor) today, and found that the screen became VERY yellowish and terrible in different angle-viewing, besides, the new LCD screen viewing angle is terrible, some more fading off and cloudy, like covered with a greyish+yellowish cloud like that!
I did complain to the girl @ SIS, but she said she can't do anything! "this is the NEW BATCH of original screen from HTC!"
But after 'google' thru the net, I've found a lot of other country Touch Pro/Diamond has this issue. And get replaced a new one for them by HTC. Then why Malaysian can't?! This is unfair!!!!!
DON'T BE SILENT! LET'S SHOUT THIS OUT LOUD TILL THEY REPLACE IT FOR US!!! Check this out, more others has this dissapointing & terrible quality problem for this expensive device!!!
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/785754/+2080
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=50388
I was going to suggest getting an eye test, but there's an obvious difference.
It's scandalous (for Diamond owners anyway)
So I RMA'd and Google sent me a new Nexus 5 from the new "311k" batch. My original Nexus 5 is a "launch" version of the "310k" batch...
I turn my phone on and I immediately see a yellow/brownish tint to the new one they sent me (311k). Now, is this something that's permanent or will it get better with more use of the phone? My original Nexus 5 has bright whites with no beige tint to them...
I took some pics with an S3, the differences in pictures seem minor...in person it's literally night and day. Especially when using an app like hangouts...I'm sure if I had a better camera it'd pick it up.
Both taken at full brightness
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Are you using a custom kernel?
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I am not. I searched google and it seems to be an issue some people are having...but like I said it's odd to me because it's such a drastic difference and you can notice it everywhere on the phone.
You can't even say the whites are "white"
That's really interesting. There is a way to find it what type of screen out has with a terminal command. It's in a screen thread here somewhere. It would be good to know exactly what screens both the phones have. I noticed when I got my phone it had a brownish, reddish tint and flashing a custom kernel gave me amazing colors.
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That's really interesting. There is a way to find it what type of screen out has with a terminal command. It's in a screen thread here somewhere. It would be good to know exactly what screens both the phones have. I noticed when I got my phone it had a brownish, reddish tint and flashing a custom kernel gave me amazing colors.
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I know kernels can change the colors but why would it be different if it were a software issue? I know the 311k didn't have to download an update as the 310k's did when you turn on the phone.
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I know kernels can change the colors but why would it be different if it were a software issue? I know the 311k didn't have to download an update as the 310k's did when you turn on the phone.
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My 310 straight from Google, out the box did not update anything. I think I got the second batch since I received it November 15.
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Just wondering why you didn't use the same screen shot on both? Not trying to say anything, just struck me as odd.
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That's really interesting. There is a way to find it what type of screen out has with a terminal command. It's in a screen thread here somewhere. It would be good to know exactly what screens both the phones have. I noticed when I got my phone it had a brownish, reddish tint and flashing a custom kernel gave me amazing colors.
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Just wondering why you didn't use the same screen shot on both? Not trying to say anything, just struck me as odd.
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No idea what you're talking about?
meangreenie said:
Just wondering why you didn't use the same screen shot on both? Not trying to say anything, just struck me as odd.
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You do know that the Nexus 5 wording is the screen protector when you get them brand new..
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You do know that the Nexus 5 wording is the screen protector when you get them brand new..
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Well its only there to protect the screen during transit. Have you compared them without it on? It is possible it causes a slight tint to the screen?
As much as I know, yellow tint is normal with new screens. It goes away after some days of usage.
Firstly 311 just indicates 2013 month 11 (November) production date and 310 was month 10 - its not a build standard despite what many seem to be thinking. If something in production changes one day then you'll need the whole serial number to know if it's before or after a change.
My first was November production (311) and it came pre-loaded with Kit Kat - but it had a serious screen defect (colour banding and distortions) and was replaced by another November (311). I would say the second does have warmer whites but as it all works as designed I'm happy.
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So I RMA'd and Google sent me a new Nexus 5 from the new "311k" batch. My original Nexus 5 is a "launch" version of the "310k" batch...
I turn my phone on and I immediately see a yellow/brownish tint to the new one they sent me (311k). Now, is this something that's permanent or will it get better with more use of the phone? My original Nexus 5 has bright whites with no beige tint to them...
I took some pics with an S3, the differences in pictures seem minor...in person it's literally night and day. Especially when using an app like hangouts...I'm sure if I had a better camera it'd pick it up.
Both taken at full brightness
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Same thing happened to me on my replacement. The first one seemed super white (along with some dead pixels) and the new one has a warmer (yellower) tone to it. At first I thought the same thing, is this a defect. And then I thought either way I like a warmer tone on a screen. The brighter one almost hurt my eyes actually.. Since I've been using the new screen for a while I think it may have brightened up some, but I don't have my defective N5 to compare it to. I guess my point is that I don't think it is defective. I think it is an improvement over the first one. Especially since I don't have any dead pixels and my vibrator motor is stronger too.
Just got mine 3 days ago and has the warmer looking screen. I do prefer the cooler screens like my N4 had but will live with it since there are no dead pixels or other issues people have reported.
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see this. . it is n4.. i had three n4 and 2 had yellow tint one was normal white..
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...odels-have-slightly-different-screens_id44252
Wanted to update this thread...
So I got a replacement for the 2nd phone which had a yellow hue...but then when I got the 3rd phone and compared the screens, the yellow hue on the 2nd phone had gone away and the 3rd had the yellow hue.
So in my conclusion, it takes a few days - a week for the screen to break in.
Can all of you people with "perfect" displays and viewing angles post picture of your device at an angle if you were look at it from a table and other angles.
I DON'T CARE IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE FRONT and say "oh well I look it from the front all the time." I view my device on the table 1/4 time. So this is an issue. Don't get me wrong I love this device.
MINE IS BAD. I know there are threads similar like this but you people NEVER back up your claim of it being perfect and saying "I don't have that issue."
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WELL PLEASE POST PICTURES OF A LOT OF ANGLES! PLEASE AS PROOF!
I'm trying to investigate this issue because I'm reading the display on this device is the BEST DISPLAY EVER. I don't believe this is true at all. MKBHD has this issue too. I add this device for a week and I know I have only 15 days before it's too late to get a new one and not a "refurbished" one.
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If you perceive it as an issue you might want to go with the next badass $350 off contract device available... This is something that is mentioned in almost EVERY review video I've seen, but I don't read my screen from an angle and don't see it as an "issue".
good day.
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If you perceive it as an issue you might want to go with the next badass $350 off contract device available... This is something that is mentioned in almost EVERY review video I've seen, but I don't read my screen from an angle and don't see it as an "issue".
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I've only seen two videos point this out and I hoped it would be a defect. All the others out said this display is "perfect" and so on etc.
I want to see the pictures from the people who claim the "perfect" display and says "I dont have that when I look at mine from an angle."
Cuz I've seen plenty who claims that in just one thread involving this issue. Yeah it's a low priced device, but we all know Google doesn't really make money off this device at all, it's the services your using and the ads you see when your using it that pays them back.
I just want to see the pictures of those who claims their device is perfect.
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Reviewers may test extreme viewing angles for comparison but generally evaluate the quality when viewing the display head-on in the manner most people view the device while it's held in normal use. Mind's perfect, but I could not very well use it if held at a 90° angle.
My viewing angles are nothing like that. I have no trouble seeing my screen from those angles.I know you are looking for pictures but unfortunately m n5 is my only camera right now. If i can get some pics I'll post them.
Mine ain't perfect but they seem much better than yours. At least with my eyes, maybe your camera make the things worst ?
I don't have any camera either, but seriously I can see the tiles much better than you, even with extreme angles.
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Can all of you people with "perfect" displays and viewing angles post picture of your device at an angle if you were look at it from a table and other angles.
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what device did you come from?
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what device did you come from?
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Galaxy Nexus. Yah i know blah blah blah blah saturated. I deal with a HTC ONE too. I actually ENJOY the display on the ONE more then my Galaxy Nexus. THAT display is GORGEOUS! I wish I could just tear it off and use the ONE's display instead lol. Or at least get the viewing angle it gets.
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Heh, I wanna say galaxy nexus. Which I also came from as well. Galaxy nexus amoled panel blows chunks next to the n5.
On topic: Since you forced me to sorta care, I got to lookin at the angles. When I got directly up/down/left/right it performs as well as an ips display should with solid color at extreme angles. But on the diagonals of the extremes i.e. (Right/down) I noticed that's when the back light washout would be visible. I suspect it has something to do with any type of polarization that has been applied to the glass.
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I suspect it has something to do with any type of polarization that has been applied to the glass.
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agreed.
Have you ever noticed how every review tests viewing angles from a straight angle? That's the standard and probably for good reason.
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Mine wishes out when I look at it diagonally and off-axis. There's only minimal washing out from the top, bottom, and sides, unlike what you're seeing. I'll try to track down a another camera and take a couple photos to show you.
EDIT: Here you go. As you can see, there's some washing out at extreme angles (mostly from the diagonal), but it's nowhere near as bad as you're experiencing.
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Heh, I wanna say galaxy nexus. Which I also came from as well. Galaxy nexus amoled panel blows chunks next to the n5.
On topic: Since you forced me to sorta care, I got to lookin at the angles. When I got directly up/down/left/right it performs as well as an ips display should with solid color at extreme angles. But on the diagonals of the extremes i.e. (Right/down) I noticed that's when the back light washout would be visible. I suspect it has something to do with any type of polarization that has been applied to the glass.
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Which is why it's bad for viewing on tables like I said. Because your viewing it from diagonal perspective a bit. Left and right and up and down are Barrable. It's not TOOO bad. Of the diagonals were the same I'd be OK with this.
I wanna know if this is a Screen lottery (every device has this but some worst then others), which is why I requested pictures from the "perfect" people. If I see that they are having even a significantly better display compared to mine(I know IPS displays get washed out at angles but mine is HORRIBLE), then I wanna call Google and get a new one and compare those too.
I've yet to be able to compare my Nexus 5 to another. Probably tomorrow I'll go into a T-Mobile or Sprint retailer and compare (hopefully it isn't bright in the room because it's harder to tell the difference).
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Maxpower7 thanks! I appreciate those pictures. Is that maxed out brightness on a stock kernel with stock colors? That's what I'm using ATM(For personal reasons hopefully I can announce it when it's done.)
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Maxpower7 thanks! I appreciate those pictures. Is that maxed out brightness on a stock kernel with stock colors? That's what I'm using ATM(For personal reasons hopefully I can announce it when it's done.)
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Stock kernel, no color adjustments. I've never used max brightness on any device. I'm at roughly 1/3 brightness and it's still plenty bright for me. I can try another one at max brightness if you want, but I don't keep it that high personally because it's too bright for my eyes and it also kills the battery.
EDIT: here's max brightness.
No Maxy it's fine thanks. I just wanted to know for sure.
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Yeah they're bad. So was the nexus 4 and g2. It's the type of polarizer that LG uses.
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aooga said:
Yeah they're bad. So was the nexus 4 and g2. It's the type of polarizer that LG uses.
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Someone at LG needs to be FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDA.
Can this "issue" be fixed? Can the angles be improved? I remember reading the Nexus⁴ got some AOSPA Love and it got "fixed" not sure if it was color wise or angle wise or both since I don't own one.
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Mine gets quite washed out an angle, but I can still read everything on the screen just fine so it really doesn't bother me. It's a little annoying and unfortunate just to know it's like this (especially since my N7 2013's IPS screen is absolutely perfect even at the most extreme angles), but it really has no effect on my usage of the device.
Seems extreme to wish for someone to lose their job over this. If this is affecting you enough to feel that strongly about it, perhaps a different device would serve you better.
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Someone at LG needs to be FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDA.
Can this "issue" be fixed? Can the angles be improved? I remember reading the Nexus⁴ got some AOSPA Love and it got "fixed" not sure if it was color wise or angle wise or both since I don't own one.
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My point in posting those photos was to show that it's really not that bad at all, and it actually looks worse in the photos that it does in person. To suggest that someone should lose their livelihood over this non-issue is utterly ridiculous because this screen on this phone is pretty awesome. And I'm picky about displays.
Hey Guys, I'm a New Nexus 5 user here..
Recently, there's this irritating bright spot on my screen.. at the top of the notification bar..
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What's the cause of the problem and if there's any advice?
I can't RMA cause it bought it from another person
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Hey Guys, I'm a New Nexus 5 user here..
Recently, there's this irritating bright spot on my screen.. at the top of the notification bar..
What's the cause of the problem and if there's any advice?
I can't RMA cause it bought it from another person
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Are you talking about the variation in the backlight? That's not uncommon, it's just the degree that can become an issue. If it really bothers you you could try calling Google, they may still honor the warranty if it was purchased from them originally.
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Are you talking about the variation in the backlight? That's not uncommon, it's just the degree that can become an issue. If it really bothers you you could try calling Google, they may still honor the warranty if it was purchased from them originally.
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hi, not a variation in the back light but a stuck white pixel at the notification bar, i think it's called a hot pixel..
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hi, not a variation in the back light but a stuck white pixel at the notification bar, i think it's called a hot pixel..
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There are methods of trying to unstick stuck pixels. Mostly using apps and background colours...
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There are methods of trying to unstick stuck pixels. Mostly using apps and background colours...
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They're also not likely to fix anything, pixels being a hardware issue. Though some have claimed it's worked for them I would argue the validity of those claims.
If software could fix pixels, I think there would be recorded evidence of such by now.
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They're also not likely to fix anything, pixels being a hardware issue. Though some have claimed it's worked for them I would argue the validity of those claims.
If software could fix pixels, I think there would be recorded evidence of such by now.
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You can absolutely fix stuck pixels by cycling colors on an LCD display. Dead pixels cannot be fixed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_pixel#Stuck_versus_dead_pixels
I've personally fixed a stuck pixel via jScreenFix.
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You can absolutely fix stuck pixels by cycling colors on an LCD display. Dead pixels cannot be fixed.
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I've personally fixed a stuck pixel via jScreenFix.
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I guess it might be possible in rare cases where maybe it would have fixed itself over time anyways. Never worked with stuck pixels in my experience, however.
I just find it suspicious that there are 100's of websites talking about how to attempt it, but no recorded evidence of it actually working. It seems almost like an LCD industry conspiracy, but I guess I'm just a skeptic at heart.
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I guess it might be possible in rare cases where it may have fixed itself over time anyways. Never worked with stuck pixels in my experience, however.
I just find it suspicious that there are 100's of websites talking about how to attempt it, but no recorded evidence of it actually working. It seems almost like an LCD industry conspiracy, but I guess I'm just a skeptic at heart.
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The LCD industry conspiracy would be the fact that there's been no real study on it. They want you to buy a new screen/phone rather than have an option to fix your display with no cost to the user.
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The LCD industry conspiracy would be the fact that there's been no real study on it. They want you to buy a new screen/phone rather than have an option to fix your display with no cost to the user.
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Guess I never saw it that way. Phones can be returned for stuck pixels, though generally any LCD monitor will need 5-7 broken pixels to qualify for RMA. This makes buyers such as myself wary of spending hundreds of dollars on a potential defective screen that most likely will never be fixed.
However, If there was a misconception that the issue could be solved via software, buyer confidence would be higher and potentially lead to more sales.
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Guess I never saw it that way. Phones can be returned for stuck pixels, though generally any LCD monitor will need 5-7 broken pixels to qualify for RMA. This makes buyers such as myself wary of spending hundreds of dollars on a potential defective screen that most likely will never be fixed.
However, If there was a misconception that the issue could be solved via software, buyer confidence would be higher and potentially lead to more sales.
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So you think people are just not buying smartphones/laptops/TVs/tablets because they're worried about stuck pixels?
Uhh...
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So you think people are just not buying smartphones/laptops/TVs/tablets because they're worried about stuck pixels?
Uhh...
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If someone is aware the product they're buying has a relatively high chance of arriving defective, and that they have zero options to fix or return the product, who in their right mind wouldn't think twice about making that purchase?
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If someone is aware the product they're buying has a relatively high chance of arriving defective, and that they have zero options to fix or return the product, who in their right mind wouldn't think twice about making that purchase?
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That logic only works assuming there's an alternative. Every laptop/tablet/ereader/smartphone uses LCD, AMOLED or eInk technology, and all of them have a chance of having dead or stuck pixels. If you want to own a laptop/tablet/ereader/smartphone you have to deal with the possibility of it shipping with or later developing dead or stuck pixels.
It's all irrelevant though because very few companies still require large numbers of dead/stuck pixels on a new device. Lenovo, HP and Dell all have no-questions-asked return/exchange policies now, so they will replace a device for a single dead pixel. Asus was one of the first to implement a specific no dead/stuck pixel policy. Most retailers will exchange a device for a single dead pixel, including Google.
What I was referencing originally though was more about developing dead/stuck pixels after purchase, and possibly after the warranty has expired. If there were an easy way to fix stuck pixels that would stop some people from buying new devices.
I have something similar lighting issues just like OP. But for me the right half of the righ of the screen brighter and there is a bigger bright area at the bottom right. It really anoys me that I payed for 550 usd for a phone and the screen is just like that .
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Hello fellow XDA people.
I recently acquired a second Honor 9 unit which is the Midnight Black. My first one is a Blue. There seem to be a few hardware differences between these two units. First of all is the screen and I seriously doubt they are made by the same manufacturer because of their obvious differences. The main difference is the viewing angles that differs hugely. My blue unit has really amazing viewing angles for being an LCD while the black unit loses a lot of its brightness very quickly and looks way more dull from an angle. Also the white balance differ a lot between the two the blue one has a more blur/green shift to it while the black untit has a much more warm and "fuller" white balance to it. It's impossible to calibrate them to look the same they are just different. The blue units screen look somewhat duller in comparison even though it wins easily in viewing angles. The black unit has more contrast and just generally looks more "lifelike" and warmer. It's also the most even screen I have ever seen in terms of uniformity (not that the blue one is bad). The glas front also has a different "texture" across the screen. On the blue I can really only see the digitizer marks but on the black I have this other small faint "sparkling dots" effect that some screen protectors can give at times. Nothing serious but it's there and the glas on the blue unit looks a little clearer.
The second difference is the fingerprint reader. It's waay faster on the blue unit while it's much much slower on the black one when I compare. One the blue it's instant I can't even make it fault even if I try to tap very fast. The one on the black unit has this delay and it's clearly not as fast to read my finger. The black unit also has a small delay when pressing it to go back to the homescreen while it does it instantly on the blue one which makes it feels faster in operation.
Both has touch screen issues and both run B130 firmware. The black one unfortunately shipped with B130. However there are differences here too the black one has more severe touch problems than the blue. The touch is seriously borked on the black one with both delays and lags and it's harder to use because of this. To the border of unusable really. Something must be seriously wrong with the software that makes the touch go bonkers I doubt I have hardware fault with both of them that makes them behave a little differently. Guessing this is mainly why updates have been pulled by Huawei.
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Return the black one and ask for a replacement immediately
For sure this is a prove that they use different factorys for screens but this is not a news because many brands to this ( xiaomi is the first I could mention ), to me this is a case of bad or not perfect gluing of digitizer on the black one. Was a different font used between the two too or?
PalakMi said:
Return the black one and ask for a replacement immediately
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In fact I prefer the display on the black one it looks much better so I don't want to get rid of it specially not when I have gotten such a perfect screen regarding uniformity I never get very lucky with this historically. I will wait for software update and see if it fixes things in the end they both have the same problem that I haven't seen on any of the 4 units I have tested in store with B100.
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For sure this is a prove that they use different factorys for screens but this is not a news because many brands to this ( xiaomi is the first I could mention ), to me this is a case of bad or not perfect gluing of digitizer on the black one. Was a different font used between the two too or?
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It feels like it's software issue how the touch behaves really and not hardware. Both has same problem with delay when I scroll but it differs some between the two in feeling. Will wait for software update.
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I'm running on B130 and don't have any lags
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It's not really lag. It's some thing were it takes the screen a few millimeters of swiping before content starts moving. Taps and such are instant while typing on keyoard so the digitizer doesn't lag in itself. We are many with this problem and for most the issue apperared after updating to B130 while it was fine on B100.
dannejanne said:
It's not really lag. It's some thing were it takes the screen a few millimeters of swiping before content starts moving. Taps and such are instant while typing on keyoard so the digitizer doesn't lag in itself. We are many with this problem and for most the issue apperared after updating to B130 while it was fine on B100.
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B130 got pulled apparently
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B130 got pulled apparently
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As well as B120. They must have problems with the updates and their reasons for pulling them.
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As well as B120. They must have problems with the updates and their reasons for pulling them.
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Yes, as lots of users were complaining about it.
What makes me wonder is, why they didn't provide a rollback package to b100?!
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Yes, as lots of users were complaining about it.
What makes me wonder is, why they didn't provide a rollback package to b100?!
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Good question I would really like one.
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Good question I would really like one.
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Unfortunately, it looks honor didn't think about users who updated to b120 or b130
How to delete a XDA post?... I read something wrong here and my post got really off topic due to my mistake - I'm sorry ?
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How to delete a XDA post?... I read something wrong here and my post got really off topic due to my mistake - I'm sorry ?
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I definitely have a little better battery life on the black one. It just seems more energy efficient. Perhaps the screen is more power efficient than the other variant I don't know. But something it is as I feel it has about 10-20% better battery life than the blue unit.
Also, today out of nowhere the delay went away when pressing the fingerprint reader to go back to the homescreen. It's just instant on the black unit now too. Didn't change a thing which seems weird. Oh well I don't complain.
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So which one is better in your opinion
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-Screen: definitely the black unit. It has way better contrast and much better whites. The screen just "pops" more on the black. The screen on the blue looks a bit dull in comparison. However the viewing angles on the blue are much much better. Don't really care though because it's me who's gonna use the unit and not someone beside me.
-Battery: the black one seems to have some kind of advantage. The same usage that gives me 5 hour SOT on the blue gives me around 6 hours on the black. I'm guessing the display is a little more power efficient perhaps.
-Fingerprint reader: the one on the blue is much faster to read my fingers. It definitely wins this one.
Besides those points I have not really noticed anything more that seems to differ.