Hello.
First and foremost, excuse me if this is not the right place to post this topic; I'm not quite acquainted with the website.
Introduction
I'm quite a Nexus fan. You see, I live in Lebanon (Middle East), and Nexus phones aren't popular here. I've come to love the Nexus 5, although one dunk in the water cursed its life forever (and is how I found these forums, some few years ago). After multiple repairs, it always brought up some screen issues, even after changing screens and whatnot... But that's irrelevant to this thread. After my Nexus 5 had died, I fancied the Motorola Nexus 6 (MN6), which is not really sold anywhere here at all, unless you're lucky enough to find someone who has one and is willing to sell it. I got mine from Amazon (which does not deliver to Lebanon. I had a relative visiting from the US who brought me the phone with her) at the risk of not being able to find spare parts in the case of any damage. So, you can imagine my concern when I've accidentally dropped my phone in a rocky beach, last night.
There has been some controversy regarding the "extent" to which the MN6 is waterproof. There are, obviously, the popular dunk-in-clear-clean-water videos on Youtube, as well as some rare reports of permanent damage from salt-water, such as the one that follows, from android-central forums.
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Whatever the case, the MN6's water resistance feature is only designed to help with accidents, or, at least, it isn't guaranteed to protect it from being submerged in water for too long (not to mention salty water).
Last night, I was out, drinking on a rocky beach, when on the whim of tipsy ideas I decided to try to catch a crab on some lone rock that was resisting the waves. It was very dark, so I had been using my phone's flash climbing down. I eventually turned off the flasher and, as I was putting it back in my pocket, it fell from my tipsy, clumsy hands and slid down into the water, between some rocks. It was until a friend came down the rocks with his flashing phone that I found it (it would have been funny if his fell in too, wouldn't it?), so it's been in the water for some minutes at least.
This is obviously salty water. Perhaps a bit acidic too, as beach water in Lebanon is waste-polluted.
"Water Test"
The phone has been in dunked in salt-water for at least a few minutes. When I took it out, the screen seemed to be working perfectly. I didn't bother testing all of its features, because, at the heed of precaution, I decided that the safest thing to do is to turn the phone off (I did so by using the touch screen, so it was working). Salt water is more conductive to electricity, so short-circuiting is a concern.
The fall itself could have been worrying, as the phone dramatically slid screen-first down some rocks before it fell in a hole between some, that is about 1-2 feet underwater. I like to think that the screen protection helped (I don't know what it is), as well as the body cover. Below is the body cover I use (I don't mean to market it, just letting you guys know).
amazon.com/i-BlasonDual-Kickstand-Release-Holster-Motorola/dp/B00OGXQ3LC/ref=sr_1_17?ie=UTF8&qid=1498191309&sr=8-17&keywords=motorola%2Bnexus%2B6%2Bcover&th=1
I've kept the phone in my pocket since last night, until I woke up a while ago, and placed it on a table in my balcony, waiting for the sunrise to reach it. Then, I took out the cover, and there were water marks on the back of the phone; evidence enough that the phone is still soaked on the inside. There were no scratch marks on the phone whatsoever, nor cracks in the screen.
I've decided to let the phone bath (pun unintended) in the sunlight for a while before turning it on. It's 7:33 AM now, so I might wait till noon or the afternoon before I turn it on. I will test the phone and let you guys know if it's functional. In the meanwhile, if you have any advice, I would be very happy to hear it.
Thank you for reading.
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My day old Raphael is showing some coating problems. This morning I thought I saw a speck of dust. Tried to wipe it clean and the coating came off. Think what you like, but if you look at the two left circles you can see for yourself. No way a key or chain or whatever can do that. No damage just coating that isn/t there anymore at the size of <1mm. Send HTC an email, wondering what their reaction will be. Keep you posted!
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Sorry to hear the bad luck, Good luck with HTC but I would not hold my breath
I would (for a one day device).
it is the anodize on the brushed aluminum... anodize is an electrochemical plating that is used to keep aluminum from oxidizing. either the aluminum wasn't prepped properly or the plating process was seriously flawed...or both. Anodize should hold up better but can easily be scratched by another metal...in aerospace, anodize is always followed up with a MIL spec primer and an optional top-coat of enamel.
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My day old Raphael is showing some coating problems. This morning I thought I saw a speck of dust. Tried to wipe it clean and the coating came off. Think what you like, but if you look at the two left circles you can see for yourself. No way a key or chain or whatever can do that. No damage just coating that isn/t there anymore at the size of <1mm. Send HTC an email, wondering what their reaction will be. Keep you posted!
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I have got so this problem.Already have you got answer from HTC?
same problem here
I have the same problem.
Black coating comes off at different spots without any contact to sharp items (especially as my Touch PRO never goes into my pocket without it's case).
My phone is only 10 days old, and I asked 2call.nl to take it back and replace it.
They said I have to go to HTC directly, but HTC sais that the retailer is responsible for replacement for devices not older than 14days.
I feel like a ping pong ball, but agree to HTC and will put more preasure on 2call.nl.
They have to take it back by law, and I will not accept "go and try at HTC".
Will keep you posted.
I've found two other users experiencing same problems. One of them also bought it from 2call if I'm not mistaken. He got his replaced. Mine is from a different store. Bummer, I really don't feel for some pingpong. Keep you posted... Mail response: Give us a call. Yeah right so they can say its not our problem because its not 14 days old...
I have noticed that HTC has used factory "touch-up" which is basically a black sharpie marker to spot-cover some of the damaged finish where the anodize is damaged for whatever reason. You can really see this if you slide the keyboard out and look under the aluminum trim (edge that gets covered when the keyboard is closed). In the right light, the "touched-up" areas will have a distinct purple tint instead of black. Take a look, most units I have looked at have some degree of repair. Problem is, black marker comes off pretty quick and you are left with silver spots everywhere. Someone, in HTC manufacturing made a huge mistake and the build quality suffered tremendously... I love the hardware and the features of the TouchPro but the build quality is the worst I have seen... I am an aerospace engineer and I see this all the time. Just my 2 cents...
As long as the screen is okay, I wouldn't sweat it. Kinda like bumpers on cars, made for bumping
I was going to recommend a light touch with a permanent overhead marker pen, good thing about being black - didn't realise the manufacturers basically do the same thing...!
Remember back to when I was young and put a scratch on the front of my brand new Spectrum 48K - black marker to the rescue. I've even used them on the edge of book bindings that sometimes get scuffed...
From the photo though the long one seems more like a scratch, perhaps done at manufacture, and now the cover up has worn off. The points are what I would associate with non take up of the anodize.
Just a heads up. Got my SW2 on Friday, it's Tuesday and my watch is acting up. I think it's due to taking a shower while wearing it. I wasn't laying in the tub or anything like that, just a quick 10 minute shower. Noticed some condensation behind the sensor and for most of the day and the top half of the screen wasn't responsive. Everything is working fine now, but there's still some condensation behind the sensor. Just a warning to some of you. I figure it'd be pretty obvious to avoid swimming while wearing this thing but I didn't think water would seep through while showering.
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STEAM... A HOT SHOWER MAKES STEAM.
It can penetrate just about anything that's only mildly waterproof because it is water VAPOR not liquid water.
That's a good point, I didn't think about that.
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You might have a small defect in the "water-proofing" of the watch but steam is most likely the culprit. Had it happen to a few electronic devices that were just sitting on the sink while someone was taking a shower. I've yet to have any issues with it considering I don't take it off in the shower.
AFAIK SW2 is water-RESISTANT, not waterPROOF. That means it still does not like water and I don't know why you even take a shower with it
My phone is T. Xperia T.
IP57 should mean that its ok in the shower
http://userguide.sonymobile.com/ref...artwatch-2-sw2#!Water-resistance---AccCA.html
Although i dont think i would, it should be waterproof to a max of 1m for a maximum of 30 mins.
Why would you shower with a watch on to begin with?
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IP57 should mean that its ok in the shower
http://userguide.sonymobile.com/ref...artwatch-2-sw2#!Water-resistance---AccCA.html
Although i dont think i would, it should be waterproof to a max of 1m for a maximum of 30 mins.
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Only if you shower in water at or below room temperature and you don't use soap.
That's why they have this symbol in their "Don't" section:
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Soapy water and water mixed with chemicals have different penetrating properties than PLAIN water. I wouldn't even wear it washing the car or dishes.
Although I'm still early in my Science Education (College-stage) Water Vapor is probably going to have an easier time at getting in than water. I don't really care about it that much as I had it free with my Xperia Z1, if it breaks I will be a little bummed but it's something I can live without. So I'm going to continue wearing it in the shower, and see what happens, I've had no issues so far with condensation inside the screen, I use to wear normal waterproof watch without any problems at all, so I don't think to take my watch off before I go in the shower.
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IP57 means it's resistant to immersion up to 1m and 30 minutes.
The tab doesn't specify however if by saying IP57 they mean that it includes IP56 and IP55 (resistant to water jets).
Anyway, as I said in another thread, I take a shower every single day and have never taken off the watch during any of those.
No issues here, all fine with my watch.
It happened a couple of times that it rebooted itself but it was sufficient to turn it off and on and all was good.
I try not to wash it with any soap, but I don't sweat it if it happens now and then.
All this to say if your unit has water penetrating by showering, it may be defective.
On the Sony site they say " You can therefore use the device in dusty environments, when your fingers are wet, and in extreme weather conditions, for example, when it’s snowing or raining, or when humidity levels are high. See the table below for more details.", and I wouldn't classify taking a shower as "extreme condition".
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Maybe your usb was not properly protected. I take long baths with gear and z1 and i have no problem. I always check twice before i go into water...
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I have a problem with my watch, I broke the screen and I cant find the replacement, if you have a unusable sw2 maybe you can sell me the part that I need, please PM with any response, thanks
If u guys have problem when the water in the sreen,just open usb hub and face the screen in front of the laptop fan and play game to get it hot,about 3 4 hour will be normal again,i've try it already
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Forgot to take mine off when I got in the shower earlier and it had no ill effect, phew ^_^
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My one plus one went under running water for few seconds. I wiped the phone but later on it kept on running with a buzzing sound (like high speed fan rotating sound over CPU). I was not able to turned that off. Though the phone was "OFF", the noise and whatever it was continued. I tried everything including volume down + power etc. - no luck. I kept it like that till the battery died. I did not try to remove the battery for that but it seems like it is not as easy as pulling out. I let it dried and tried to get it working... when connected to the power cable, the phone stays on the 1+ and Android logo. Nothing happens. I can get into the fast mode but not sure what next. Any suggestions on recovering the phone? Is it possible to send it to the one plus support for water damage? The phone is not under warranty and I had bought it when it was launched.
Thanks in advance for suggestions.
THIS MIGHT WORK FOR ANY PHONE
HOW TO PREVENT WATER DAMAGE
Dropping an advanced piece of technology such as the Oneplus One in water should be treated as an emergency. There is a set procedure following such an incident which can help you prevent further water damage to the Oneplus One. Timing is important and if you are lucky, you may even escape unhurt. This guide provides a set of “first-aid” steps which are known to avoid water from crippling the Oneplus One. Remember: there is no magic solution. Disclaimer: I cannot be held responsible should the below guide fail to help you fix the Oneplus Oneafter it fell into water.
In case you drop the Oneplus One in water – turn it off immediately
1) Get the Oneplus One out of the water as soon as you can and switch off the Oneplus One by pressing the power button for 5 - 10 seconds until the Oneplus One is turned off.
Turning off the Oneplus Oneas swiftly as possible is the single most important step to prevent water damage. Keeping it off for good couple of days after the incident is as crucial. It is not water per se which damages the Oneplus One but the short-circuits which can be produced by the electricity running in the Oneplus One's circuit board.
2) Dry off the Oneplus One with a towel or a piece of fabric. Do NOT use a hair-dryer, nor place the Oneplus One in an oven as the excess heat will damage the Oneplus One beyond repair.
3) Grab a plastic bag, preferably a common zipper storage bag and fill it up with uncooked rice or alternatively, silica-gel packets. Place the Oneplus One in the plastic bag and make sure the device is fully immersed in the rice.
If you cannot get hold of rice or silica, you can alternatively place the Oneplus One in a very dry and well ventilated place (i.e. a room used to dry clothes equipped with a cold-air blow fan)
4) Take out as much air as possible from the bag and zip it up. If you do not have a zipper bag, use a regular one, or as a last resort, a bowl
5) Let the Oneplus One remain in the rice for at least 24 hours (preferably 48 hours) after which the device should have completely dried up
6) Trying to turn on an Oneplus One after a water incident always poses a risk of damage. Before you turn on your Oneplus One , please refer to the section below.
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]Hello - I dropped phone in the sink and pulled it out IMMEDIATELY.:crying:Literally two seconds. The phone was still on, was dried and left in rice for 4 days. Took out sim and memory card. only the bottom half of the phone was in contact with water.
Now the phone will charge, but the screen is not responsive, and going ballistic notifications flashing, bluetooth turning on and off, alarms suddenly being set, LED switching on and off, browser pages appearing - all this whilst the phone is not being touched.
I have looked very very closely at what I think are the water damage indicators, right on the led, and they are yellow on top and orange on the bottom. No sign of pink at all. Also have compared them to my husbands A9 and they are identical. Is there any hope :crying::crying:
Anyone ???
yes, that is the water damage indicators, it is really red, which is a sign of water damage. If you can charge it and do other things like, let's say, connect it to a computer, then it may just be a screen problem, but don't take my word for it, it is possible that there is something else wrong. You can certainly try it but I'm not sure if the screen is the only problem without the device in my hands to assess the damage. I would say there is a little hope for it but your best bet is to either buy a new one or get a replacement under warranty
Also, if your screen experiences "jitters" where it randomly maps finger touches that is definitely a digitizer problem, which is screen related, I'm not sure if this is the problem u face or not, I'm going off of your description of the damage. Leave the screen on and watch it for a few, if it does this then that is certainly a sign of a damaged screen
Unfortunately based on your description you have very little chance of fixing it without replacing at least one part of the phone, it may just be one or it may be multiple
Sorry if this offers little help, but good luck anyways
shaking camera
i dropped my phone into a basin and my phone was completely submerged and all air bubbles came out of the phone but it was working perfectly fine. but now my camera started to twitch and can focus and i keep hearing the sound that the camera still has water in it but am not sure .
please advise on what i should do.
thank you
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i dropped my phone into a basin and my phone was completely submerged and all air bubbles came out of the phone but it was working perfectly fine. but now my camera started to twitch and can focus and i keep hearing the sound that the camera still has water in it but am not sure .
please advise on what i should do.
thank you
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Look Where the flashlight is, there is 2 circles, on on top of the other. The top one is yellow, and the bottom on should be a light red/pink. If the bottom one is orange/dark red the phone has water damage. If this is the case you should take it to a professional and see what needs to be replaced, as I'm not sure exactly what should be fixed. Hope this helps and good luck
OK, phone went off to repair last week. was not holding out much hope as I thought they would be able to tell that it had been dropped in water and therefore not repairable under warranty.
LCD replaced, and that is it. I am delighted !! Working perfectly.
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OK, phone went off to repair last week. was not holding out much hope as I thought they would be able to tell that it had been dropped in water and therefore not repairable under warranty.
LCD replaced, and that is it. I am delighted !! Working perfectly.
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That is very good, thankfully it was only a screen replacement. Good luck and don't drop it into anymore water lol
I bought a Pixel 2 recently, and does anyone else have the frame cracking for them? On the left side of the device, below the sim tray, where there is a plastic notch. For me, the crack starts at the plastic and runs for the entire depth of the device. This is strange because my phone has always been in a case, never been exerted with lots of pressure or dropped and I would imagine that Google's R&D would try and avoid this issue. Does anyone else have this issue? Do you think Google would be able to send me a replacement device?
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Pretty sure that's the part of the phone that almost instantly snapped in jerryrig's torture test. You should watch it if you haven't already, and definitely try for a replacement if you can
I have a case on mine but I thought the body was made out of metal...that is what it felt like and what reviews have said. The primary complaint I read about anything "plastic" was that the white/gray version had a colored plastic power button while the black was metal.
Edit: Looked up the durability tests and it appears this is a known issue if enough pressure is applied. That area is where the antenna is located. I would try to get a replacement...under warranty. You'll just need to convince them that this was normal use...i.e. you weren't bending it on purpose, or sitting on it in your back pocket or something. Thanks for sharing....I don't ever abuse my electronics but obviously I'll need to take care of this phone.
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I have a case on mine but I thought the body was made out of metal...that is what it felt like and what reviews have said. The primary complaint I read about anything "plastic" was that the white/gray version had a colored plastic power button while the black was metal.
Edit: Looked up the durability tests and it appears this is a known issue if enough pressure is applied. That area is where the antenna is located. I would try to get a replacement...under warranty. You'll just need to convince them that this was normal use...i.e. you weren't bending it on purpose, or sitting on it in your back pocket or something. Thanks for sharing....I don't ever abuse my electronics but obviously I'll need to take care of this phone.
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Yeah, I'm currently under the process of trying to get a replacement through Google, I'll update when I get a response back, so others can know if they are covered. :good:
I admit it puzzles me why there is an antenna band there, given that there's a bloody big glass window just above it. I'm sure there's an engineering reason, but it's not what I'd have done.
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I admit it puzzles me why there is an antenna band there, given that there's a bloody big glass window just above it. I'm sure there's an engineering reason, but it's not what I'd have done.
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Aesthetics maybe? I've seen older phones where you could see it on the back of the phone and it was noticeable. Not sure. Regardless, I'd rather have durability and performance over aesthetics. Regardless of how "beautiful" a phone is, for me the cost alone means a case and screen protector (which is also still an issue for this phone...all the tempered glass ones I've looked at show a halo around the edges). I would gladly trade aesthetics for a little more durability or performance. That is why I bought the phone...I knew I would put it in a case so I had no interest in "glass back" or other features like that. As an engineer I actually like the minimalist design...although I do wish the bezel areas were made more functional by increasing screen size I guess, there's always a tradeoff in performance (the primary reason I selected the Pixel 2 over S8 or V30), looks, battery life, and durability...although there probably doesn't have to be.
Update! (After a long a** time)
It took them so long to get back to me, they said only 5 days but it took weeks, but my device was approved to get replaced. It's being picked up tomorrow. Although Google took so long, I'm glad that their customer service (not response time) was helpful. I did have to escalate the claim but it went through nontheless. I'm certain that if your device is cracked, if you pester them enough, they'll get a replacement for you a lot quicker than I did.