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Gear S2 "Always On" Brightness

Is the always on mode screen supposed to look brighter than brightness level 1 when it's awake? I got a new Gear S2 Classic and don't really recall if my previous one was like this. To me, it looks noticeably brighter since I normally keep my brightness on 1 or 2.

It's my opinion that the always on watch hands are displayed at only one intensity (probably 1 or 2?). No matter what level you set the brightness, the always on watch hands are rather dim.

Is there anyway to show more that just hands ?
My S2 does not stay always on, when set to do so.

obsydian said:
Is there anyway to show more that just hands ?
My S2 does not stay always on, when set to do so.
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I think it actually turns off if you completely ignore so many notifications. Not sure specifically but that is my guess.
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obsydian said:
Is there anyway to show more that just hands ?
My S2 does not stay always on, when set to do so.
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Some of the 3rd party watchfaces have more detail in ambient mode. All the stock faces default to hour/minute hand or digital time. I have one clocki face that has tick marks, hour numbers, large hands, and day date showing during ambient mode. It actually looks like a standard watch in ambient mode. that has been on of the best points of Android Wear watches, and I am glad it is on the S2. Early Gear models didn't have ambient, the Gear S had ambient with very little detail. It does increase battery usage, but I still easily get a full day use with battery to spare when I run a detailed ambient face all day.

Screen burn in with AOD.

I hate to say this but AOD might not be a good choice on this watch. I have had AOD on for the past 2 days and right not when i got a text i saw that some on the watch face was still on the screen. It wasnt excessive so im hoping it goes away but just letting you guys know that it can get burned in. And just incase youre wondering. I was using a stock watch face so its not a bad third party watch face. And final thing, on my past 2 smart watches you could tell when the watch face would shift every minute with AOD but with this watch it doesnt seem to shift the watch face at all.

I know Tizen states on their website that AOD does move pixels, but I'm sure it's harder for analog faces over digital and the size of the screen.
https://developer.tizen.org/design/wearable/watch-face
Scroll down to "Screen burn" and you'll see they state it moves.
Now I'm not saying it's not possible, in fact I myself don't trust the size of the screen and disable AOD on my watch.

ErickF said:
I hate to say this but AOD might not be a good choice on this watch. I have had AOD on for the past 2 days and right not when i got a text i saw that some on the watch face was still on the screen. It wasnt excessive so im hoping it goes away but just letting you guys know that it can get burned in. And just incase youre wondering. I was using a stock watch face so its not a bad third party watch face. And final thing, on my past 2 smart watches you could tell when the watch face would shift every minute with AOD but with this watch it doesnt seem to shift the watch face at all.
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Did the burn-in go away? Which watch face were you using?

Thankfully it did go away. It was the Urban Classic watch face. Looked so nice with AOD but not going to use it anymore

ErickF said:
Thankfully it did go away. It was the Urban Classic watch face. Looked so nice with AOD but not going to use it anymore
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I just turned my AOD off, just got it today, dont want to take a chance. Until we find out more
Plus with how fast the screen turns on when you raise your arm to look at it, don't really need it much.

ab30494 said:
I just turned my AOD off, just got it today, dont want to take a chance. Until we find out more
Plus with how fast the screen turns on when you raise your arm to look at it, don't really need it much.
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I tested the AOD with a third party watchface that i used to use with my gear s2 and i know that for sure it would move around every minute and the movements on the gear s3 were so small that most watchfaces should have an issue with it. Even the stock one. Defenetly dont use it for now. Hopefully they change it so that the watchface shifts as much as it did on the s2

Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.

afblangley said:
Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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I agree. Are burn ins covered by warranty for sure? If so the ill use it anyways because it looks much better with AOD

After 2 days?
HIGHLY unlikely. Almost impossible on any display.
And I've used AOD since I got the watch on release. No kind of screen issues.

I've had my watch for almost 4 weeks now and have used the AoD since then and I've not noticed any screen burn at all.
Fingers crossed it remains this way.

afblangley said:
Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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I agree with you 100%. I usually put my watch on the charger when I get home from work. It's anywhere from about 60 to 75% charged. That's with the brightness up a notch to 8 and AOD. I make no effort to conserve the battery. It charges up in an hour or two and I put it back on.
AOD is a must also. When I'm sitting at my bench I can just glance down and see the time, no wrist flick needed. My guess it will take a very long time for any kind of burn in. By that time the next latest and greatest will be out.
I also work in a heavy industrial area, I have yet to damage this thing but it's going to happen. By the time there is any screen burn it will probably be low on the list of defects.

my wrist flick only works only half the time. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions on how I should be flicking my wrist?

You don't have to "flick" your wrist. It's just the rotation of your arm. You can do it slow or fast. Just turn your arm round to show your watchface.

I feel the same way. Had the watch about 3 weeks now and AOD on since. No issues here. I even have a 3rd party face.

I guess ill try it again after a factory reset. Hopefully it was just a glitch for me.

Good morning, I'm noticing an excessive consumption when AOD use, about 1% every 30 minutes, AOD off the battery might not go down every hour or more. I am connected to iPhone 7+ I have everything turned off except Bluetooth, use face Samsung Watch Dashboard Gear. also consumes too much energy in AOD with brightness at minimum.

It completely depends which watch face you are using. They all have different AOD faces, and use different amounts of power.

zazadj81 said:
Good morning, I'm noticing an excessive consumption when AOD use, about 1% every 30 minutes, AOD off the battery might not go down every hour or more. I am connected to iPhone 7+ I have everything turned off except Bluetooth, use face Samsung Watch Dashboard Gear. also consumes too much energy in AOD with brightness at minimum.
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1%/30min. is normal. That's 2%/hour which means you will have about 50h (two full days). It is the same most of us get out of it with AOD

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If you are worried about burn in use faces that don't have a lot of colors that include blue( purple, white, etc). The lifetime of the blue emitter on OLED is the least by far and is most susceptible to degradation (burn). The lifetimes of red and green emitters are much longer so colors that use those are not likely to burn.
Display orbiting only helps a little, instead of burning a lot in a small spot you will burn a little in a larger spot.
Blue is also the least power efficient, it takes more power to light a blue emitter to the same brightness as red or green. So faces with a lot of blue in them (or colors containing blue) will drain the battery faster.

Since the S3 is new, we're all speculating on the possibility of screen burn. But the S2 has been out for a year. Are there any S2 users who have experienced this problem?

lg watch urbane 2nd battery issue on wear 2.0 preview4

I find the battery drains terribly on this firmware,my watch can only survive one day without sim card and always on disabled.any solutions?Is there anyone flashed the same firmware?please post your battery draining status here or give me some suggestions.Thank you!

The advice in this thread healped with my crazy drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/watch-urbane/help/poor-battery-life-wear-2-0-preview-fix-t3410178

Robatic said:
The advice in this thread healped with my crazy drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/watch-urbane/help/poor-battery-life-wear-2-0-preview-fix-t3410178
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what's your battery status now? how many %drained per hour?

2%-2.5%/hour with cellular off

I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.

rastik said:
I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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Good point. The OLED tech used on our LG watches saves energy by only lighting areas of the screen that aren't black. And color takes more power than black & white. So, for everyday use, I picked a simple, minimal, white-on-black watch face.--"Elements".

rastik said:
I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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Agreed...and also whether you have your watch's SIM card enabled or not...battery life is terribly low with 3G/LTE enabled but improves dramatically when its turned off...I live with the fact that I only need the watch in "un-paired" mode to have GPS functionality for my fitness workouts.

Thank you all for your generous help.

Moe5508 said:
Agreed...and also whether you have your watch's SIM card enabled or not...battery life is terribly low with 3G/LTE enabled but improves dramatically when its turned off...I live with the fact that I only need the watch in "un-paired" mode to have GPS functionality for my fitness workouts.
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how low exactly?can it last a day?

With cell turned off I can get 2-3 days of usage. With cell on, it gets to 1-2 days.

Is it worth to get it updated to the preview? The Android Wear 2.0 OTA supported to come at the end of May.

Should I return my Gear S3 or keep it? Please help?

Hi Guys,
I bought a Gear S3, it was preowned, so I fear that there might be some issues with its battery, including having a faulty battery completely. Can you please guide me/confirm the following battery behaviors to be true on your Gears OR do I in fact have a bad watch and it needs to be returned?
1. When watch is off the cradle, not connected to the phone (disconnected through the Gear app), but NOT in Airplane mode, it goes from 100% battery to 0 and dead within 24 hours. Normal?
2. 100% charge, wrist gesture on, Samsung pay, no LTE, just bluetooth, used for about 12 hours, message notifications, maybe 3 - 4 hours of AOD. The day ends with about 50% charge. Normal?
3. Off the cradle, in Airplane mode, started with 100% battery, not used for 12 hours, just on the desk, ~95% battery left. Normal?
4. Slightly off topic question: When a Chromecast video is playing, watch detects it, knows the title of the video, but Play/Pause, Skip doesn't work. Normal?
Appreciate your prompt input, I need to open an RMA before the end of this week. Thank you!

Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Haha thanks Johnny! So those are all normal scenarios in your experience?
Also, any comment the controlling the Chromecast issue? ?

This is normal
I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.

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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!

The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
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big_redfox said:
I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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big_redfox said:
The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thanks for your response bud... Can you test on your side and confirm for me?

Question AOD or Raise wrist to wake?

Since the Galaxy Watch 4 is not a champion when it comes to battery life, I'm sure we're many wanting at least 2 days battery life WITHOUT disabling all the features that made us bought the GW4 at the first place.
I can easily achieve 2 days battery life AOD Off, Wifi Off. All the other features is turned on.
I was wondering if turning on AOD and disabling Raise Wrist to wake would still grant me 2 days battery life since I heard that apparently RWTW consume a pretty good amount of battery every time we tilt our wrist.
How about you guys?

AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).

crxssi said:
AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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With that configuration how long does the watch stand approximately? Do you track sleep at night and with a workout routine does the watch still have battery left until the morning?

crxssi said:
AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case) - and I'll take the extra battery life with it off any day over any real or perceived inconvenience of turning your wrist to see the time.
I haven't yet been able to fully determine how well it works on the GW4, but on the Gear S3 it was perfectly fine, so I am expecting it to be at least as good.

jtOttawa said:
I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case)
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.

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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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That's fair enough.

AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
Since my daily routine include a workout session and since I use sleep tracking, I am afraid that my daily routine can't be compatibile with AOD. It's a annoying not to be able to use the watch to full capacity and having to make choice between fancy look and fitness.
Hope they will be able to improve battery life with updates...

Mini Jay said:
AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.

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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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Thanks for the tips!