Since the Galaxy Watch 4 is not a champion when it comes to battery life, I'm sure we're many wanting at least 2 days battery life WITHOUT disabling all the features that made us bought the GW4 at the first place.
I can easily achieve 2 days battery life AOD Off, Wifi Off. All the other features is turned on.
I was wondering if turning on AOD and disabling Raise Wrist to wake would still grant me 2 days battery life since I heard that apparently RWTW consume a pretty good amount of battery every time we tilt our wrist.
How about you guys?
AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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With that configuration how long does the watch stand approximately? Do you track sleep at night and with a workout routine does the watch still have battery left until the morning?
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AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case) - and I'll take the extra battery life with it off any day over any real or perceived inconvenience of turning your wrist to see the time.
I haven't yet been able to fully determine how well it works on the GW4, but on the Gear S3 it was perfectly fine, so I am expecting it to be at least as good.
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case)
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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That's fair enough.
AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
Since my daily routine include a workout session and since I use sleep tracking, I am afraid that my daily routine can't be compatibile with AOD. It's a annoying not to be able to use the watch to full capacity and having to make choice between fancy look and fitness.
Hope they will be able to improve battery life with updates...
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AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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Thanks for the tips!
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I wear my S2 24/7 except when in the shower or charging. Sometimes only 20% of battery usage happens during the day and 5% at night, other times those numbers can be doubled or even more. I have tried everything to try and figure out what is different when there is higher battery usage. I even did a factory reset and only reinstalled those apps/clock faces I actually use. The only thing that seems to make a difference is charging, if it is using a lot of battery and then I charge it things seem to go back to low battery usage.
I have wireless and nfc turned off, no auto heart rate, and no ambient watch face. At night I turn on Do Not Disturb. I use brightness setting of three which is fine with the watch face am using these days (Exile Blue by Fischbein).
Anybody else see this sort of variability and any ideas of what causes it?
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I wear it 24/7 except with already mentioned and sometimes gets bad battery but never turned off auto heart rate. Honestly the watch can last me 24 hours, not sure how people can get more except without using the watch at all. I know at night, I will turn on power save which helps tremendously. I'd say turn that on throughout the day, you just won't have nice face or use apps except phone and message
I've noticed that it really matters hat watchface you are using. My settings and usage are identical to yours. With the "Modern Utility" watchface I get out about 48h.
With the "Dashboard" watchface, which has no animation, it's steady 60h. So if you swap them throughout the day - that's the explanation.
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I've noticed that it really matters hat watchface you are using. My settings and usage are identical to yours. With the "Modern Utility" watchface I get out about 48h.
With the "Dashboard" watchface, which has no animation, it's steady 60h. So if you swap them throughout the day - that's the explanation.
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Thanks.
Mine is variable without changing the watch face which is what is confusing. By the way, I have the seen the same behavior with both a Sport and a Classic.
I have been thinking about writing an app that tracks battery usage over time and creates a graph. I wonder how hard that would be. Might be a fun project.
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I hate to say this but AOD might not be a good choice on this watch. I have had AOD on for the past 2 days and right not when i got a text i saw that some on the watch face was still on the screen. It wasnt excessive so im hoping it goes away but just letting you guys know that it can get burned in. And just incase youre wondering. I was using a stock watch face so its not a bad third party watch face. And final thing, on my past 2 smart watches you could tell when the watch face would shift every minute with AOD but with this watch it doesnt seem to shift the watch face at all.
I know Tizen states on their website that AOD does move pixels, but I'm sure it's harder for analog faces over digital and the size of the screen.
https://developer.tizen.org/design/wearable/watch-face
Scroll down to "Screen burn" and you'll see they state it moves.
Now I'm not saying it's not possible, in fact I myself don't trust the size of the screen and disable AOD on my watch.
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I hate to say this but AOD might not be a good choice on this watch. I have had AOD on for the past 2 days and right not when i got a text i saw that some on the watch face was still on the screen. It wasnt excessive so im hoping it goes away but just letting you guys know that it can get burned in. And just incase youre wondering. I was using a stock watch face so its not a bad third party watch face. And final thing, on my past 2 smart watches you could tell when the watch face would shift every minute with AOD but with this watch it doesnt seem to shift the watch face at all.
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Did the burn-in go away? Which watch face were you using?
Thankfully it did go away. It was the Urban Classic watch face. Looked so nice with AOD but not going to use it anymore
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Thankfully it did go away. It was the Urban Classic watch face. Looked so nice with AOD but not going to use it anymore
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I just turned my AOD off, just got it today, dont want to take a chance. Until we find out more
Plus with how fast the screen turns on when you raise your arm to look at it, don't really need it much.
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I just turned my AOD off, just got it today, dont want to take a chance. Until we find out more
Plus with how fast the screen turns on when you raise your arm to look at it, don't really need it much.
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I tested the AOD with a third party watchface that i used to use with my gear s2 and i know that for sure it would move around every minute and the movements on the gear s3 were so small that most watchfaces should have an issue with it. Even the stock one. Defenetly dont use it for now. Hopefully they change it so that the watchface shifts as much as it did on the s2
Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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I agree. Are burn ins covered by warranty for sure? If so the ill use it anyways because it looks much better with AOD
After 2 days?
HIGHLY unlikely. Almost impossible on any display.
And I've used AOD since I got the watch on release. No kind of screen issues.
I've had my watch for almost 4 weeks now and have used the AoD since then and I've not noticed any screen burn at all.
Fingers crossed it remains this way.
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Although AOD consumes battery life and may even result in screen burn, I think that it adds a great deal aesthetically, if not functionally, to the watch. For me, this is very important. Even if I have to charge it nightly or file a warranty claim.
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I agree with you 100%. I usually put my watch on the charger when I get home from work. It's anywhere from about 60 to 75% charged. That's with the brightness up a notch to 8 and AOD. I make no effort to conserve the battery. It charges up in an hour or two and I put it back on.
AOD is a must also. When I'm sitting at my bench I can just glance down and see the time, no wrist flick needed. My guess it will take a very long time for any kind of burn in. By that time the next latest and greatest will be out.
I also work in a heavy industrial area, I have yet to damage this thing but it's going to happen. By the time there is any screen burn it will probably be low on the list of defects.
my wrist flick only works only half the time. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Any suggestions on how I should be flicking my wrist?
You don't have to "flick" your wrist. It's just the rotation of your arm. You can do it slow or fast. Just turn your arm round to show your watchface.
I feel the same way. Had the watch about 3 weeks now and AOD on since. No issues here. I even have a 3rd party face.
I guess ill try it again after a factory reset. Hopefully it was just a glitch for me.
Good morning, I'm noticing an excessive consumption when AOD use, about 1% every 30 minutes, AOD off the battery might not go down every hour or more. I am connected to iPhone 7+ I have everything turned off except Bluetooth, use face Samsung Watch Dashboard Gear. also consumes too much energy in AOD with brightness at minimum.
It completely depends which watch face you are using. They all have different AOD faces, and use different amounts of power.
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Good morning, I'm noticing an excessive consumption when AOD use, about 1% every 30 minutes, AOD off the battery might not go down every hour or more. I am connected to iPhone 7+ I have everything turned off except Bluetooth, use face Samsung Watch Dashboard Gear. also consumes too much energy in AOD with brightness at minimum.
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1%/30min. is normal. That's 2%/hour which means you will have about 50h (two full days). It is the same most of us get out of it with AOD
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If you are worried about burn in use faces that don't have a lot of colors that include blue( purple, white, etc). The lifetime of the blue emitter on OLED is the least by far and is most susceptible to degradation (burn). The lifetimes of red and green emitters are much longer so colors that use those are not likely to burn.
Display orbiting only helps a little, instead of burning a lot in a small spot you will burn a little in a larger spot.
Blue is also the least power efficient, it takes more power to light a blue emitter to the same brightness as red or green. So faces with a lot of blue in them (or colors containing blue) will drain the battery faster.
Since the S3 is new, we're all speculating on the possibility of screen burn. But the S2 has been out for a year. Are there any S2 users who have experienced this problem?
I find the battery drains terribly on this firmware,my watch can only survive one day without sim card and always on disabled.any solutions?Is there anyone flashed the same firmware?please post your battery draining status here or give me some suggestions.Thank you!
The advice in this thread healped with my crazy drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/watch-urbane/help/poor-battery-life-wear-2-0-preview-fix-t3410178
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The advice in this thread healped with my crazy drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/watch-urbane/help/poor-battery-life-wear-2-0-preview-fix-t3410178
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what's your battery status now? how many %drained per hour?
2%-2.5%/hour with cellular off
I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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Good point. The OLED tech used on our LG watches saves energy by only lighting areas of the screen that aren't black. And color takes more power than black & white. So, for everyday use, I picked a simple, minimal, white-on-black watch face.--"Elements".
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I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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Agreed...and also whether you have your watch's SIM card enabled or not...battery life is terribly low with 3G/LTE enabled but improves dramatically when its turned off...I live with the fact that I only need the watch in "un-paired" mode to have GPS functionality for my fitness workouts.
Thank you all for your generous help.
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Agreed...and also whether you have your watch's SIM card enabled or not...battery life is terribly low with 3G/LTE enabled but improves dramatically when its turned off...I live with the fact that I only need the watch in "un-paired" mode to have GPS functionality for my fitness workouts.
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how low exactly?can it last a day?
With cell turned off I can get 2-3 days of usage. With cell on, it gets to 1-2 days.
Is it worth to get it updated to the preview? The Android Wear 2.0 OTA supported to come at the end of May.
hey guy's its my first samsung and was wondering why AOD doesnt detect full darkness when autobrightness is on and doesnt go dark when in total darkness or in pocket etc.
Also if I dont enable edge lighting and get a notification therea no popup on the aod screen at all? no way to have it like aosp or pixel? Or the best would be for screen to wake when notification comes and then go dark leaving icon to show notification.
Last question, is there a way to make the edge lighting style toast notification bubble dark on dark more and not that white bubble? i cant get goodlock to work in my country evem with vpn install it says the modules arent for my phone.
It's not supposed to when it's set to be on continously; it will only change brightness intensity in accordance to ambient levels.
Or this can be set to any level if you chose not to use the auto-brightness feature.
You can set it to double tap on when needed or never to be on at all.
So just how deep does the Sammy rabbit hole go?
Very deep.
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It's not supposed to when it's set to be on continously; it will only change brightness intensity in accordance to ambient levels.
Or this can be set to any level if you chose not to use the auto-brightness feature.
You can set it to double tap on when needed or never to be on at all.
So just how deep does the Sammy rabbit hole go?
Very deep.
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lol i have a k20 Pro also and on miui the aod stays untill your in complete darkness, which is logical? miui has lockscreen wake when notification comes also like ios. Way better then edge bubble thing or not having any popup?
when the phone is on the desk i want to see who messaged and then decide to check or not.
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lol i have a k20 Pro also and on miui the aod stays untill your in complete darkness, which is logical? miui has lockscreen wake when notification comes also like ios. Way better then edge bubble thing or not having any popup?
when the phone is on the desk i want to see who messaged and then decide to check or not.
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I'm running Pie on a Note 10+ so it's they are two very different Android variants.
Controls may be hidden in settings or elsewhere.
I go looking through all the settings that I can find. Even after a year occasionally I find something new; lots of settings.
Androids are like a game... not a boring Apple
Back in the older days pre note 9 AOD actually turned off when you placed phone face down or if you used a wallet type holder or covered proximity sensor ( good ). Samsung then at some point changed their proximity sensor type whereby this feature would be no longer supported. I think the note 8 was the last samsung I owned that worked this way.
However I never recall it ever going completely dark / off even in a pitch dark room.
hmm wierd they would take that feature off why not turn it off when its not needed (aod).
is there another way to have notifications popup on aod apart from edge lightning? like on pixels pr aosp rom?
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hmm wierd they would take that feature off why not turn it off when its not needed (aod).
is there another way to have notifications popup on aod apart from edge lightning? like on pixels pr aosp rom?
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I agree. The feature was really beneficial especially for those that use wallet type cases. You open the cover and AOD activated regardless of it being a mom genuine case.
PS. I think the change actually came about after the note 9 series with their under the screen type proximity sensor implementation from s10 onwards.
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Back in the older days pre note 9 AOD actually turned off when you placed phone face down or if you used a wallet type holder or covered proximity sensor ( good ). Samsung then at some point changed their proximity sensor type whereby this feature would be no longer supported. I think the note 8 was the last samsung I owned that worked this way.
However I never recall it ever going completely dark / off even in a pitch dark room.
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With only a few OLEDs active their power drain is slight. Their mosfet drivers are very efficient.
The current used additional sensing of previous versions may have been more prohibitive than that of the active OLEDs.
I just leave mine on; turning off decreases off time battery consumption by 20% or so. Not as much as you think as other systems run regardless unless you power the phone off.
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With only a few OLEDs active their power drain is slight. Their mosfet drivers are very efficient.
The current used additional sensing of previous versions may have been more prohibitive than that of the active OLEDs.
I just leave mine on; turning off decreases off time battery consumption by 20% or so. Not as much as you think as other systems run regardless unless you power the phone off.
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I'd vouch for your last paragraph. Screen off drain has become the achilles heel of the galaxy devices more so than before. I can't seem to get below at best 0.4% drain per hour if I'm lucky . I need to look into some of the methods you mentioned in this forum.
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I'd vouch for your last paragraph. Screen off drain has become the achilles heel of the galaxy devices more so than before. I can't seem to get below at best 0.4% drain per hour if I'm lucky . I need to look into some of the methods you mentioned in this forum.
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That's probably as good as it gets. Cell standby and device idle are needed otherwise simply power it down.
With AOD always on I figure 1% or less @ hr is good performance.
Tap on only improves it but I like stuff that glows.
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That's probably as good as it gets. Cell standby and device idle are needed otherwise simply power it down.
With AOD always on I figure 1% or less @ hr is good performance.
Tap on only improves it but I like stuff that glows.
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Yeah but,.no but, yeah but... My Moto.G gets 1 to 2 percent evrrynight. " Totally unacceptable for a $1399 msrp device".I'm gonna use this line like the noobies do better still use it as my signature.
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That's probably as good as it gets. Cell standby and device idle are needed otherwise simply power it down.
With AOD always on I figure 1% or less @ hr is good performance.
Tap on only improves it but I like stuff that glows.
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on my k20pro i can get 0.4% and hour idle with aosp rom and like 8-11% active.
here i dont want to root so cant use franko manager to see or app with real data.
this white bubble with edge lighting notifications is annoyinf i cant make it dark??
o **** this app aodnotify does exactly what I want, gives an led circle and shows message preview
orr even better this glimpse app remplaces aod edge lighting with simple lockscreen wake then back to aod with app icon. On regular screen on edge behaviour is the same.
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Yeah but,.no but, yeah but... My Moto.G gets 1 to 2 percent evrrynight. " Totally unacceptable for a $1399 msrp device".I'm gonna use this line like the noobies do better still use it as my signature.
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Over 1% some apks are running amuck*. The 10+ use to do that.
It's very irritating.
*it's a quaint Android custom
Hi all,
Just wanted to check...if you have location services switched on on this device. I tried switching it off and experienced a remarkable improvement in the battery life. Am I missing something without location services on?
According to the user guide, the Galaxy Watch 4 draws the location from your phone when this is connected to it via BT, except for Samsung Health. What kind of improvement did you see? My watch drains around 2% per hour during the day with normal use and 10% over night. This is with everything on, apart from AOD and with Location on Improved Accuracy.
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According to the user guide, the Galaxy Watch 4 draws the location from your phone when this is connected to it via BT, except for Samsung Health. What kind of improvement did you see? My watch drains around 2% per hour during the day with normal use and 10% over night. This is with everything on, apart from AOD and with Location on Improved Accuracy.
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With location on, I would start the day with 100% and 6 hours in to the day I would have lost around 25%. With location off and under the same conditions, I would have lost around 16%. That's about 9% save over 6 hours. In both these situations, I'm assuming the same level of activity.
Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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I'm not sure why the watch would request for location from the phone when there is an inbuilt GPS receiver. But, yes, long story short, without the location enabled, the battery life is great.
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I assume because it is a lot less "expensive" to ask the phone than to exert a lot of battery to find out on its own.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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I'm getting great battery life with location turned on - and IMHO turning location off on the Galaxy Watch 4 kinda negates its main advantages over the Galaxy Watch (Google Maps, etc.).
If battery life is your overriding priority, and you don't care about the health and location-based features of the GW4, I would suggest that you buy an original Galaxy Watch, at a fraction of the price, and up to 2x the battery life.
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I'm getting great battery life with location turned on - and IMHO turning location off on the Galaxy Watch 4 kinda negates its main advantages over the Galaxy Watch (Google Maps, etc.).
If battery life is your overriding priority, and you don't care about the health and location-based features of the GW4, I would suggest that you buy an original Galaxy Watch, at a fraction of the price, and up to 2x the battery life.
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I already have a S3 classic (still sitting on the desk). And it did suit me fine for years, except the battery is half worn-out now. Plus, it had no search capability, which is the killer feature I wanted in the GW4 (and doesn't really have it quite yet). I don't use the exercise/health or mapping. I use it mostly for time, calendar, notifications, weather, AOD, stopwatch, and occasional texting. Most of the other features are a waste on me, that is true. Of course, each person will have a set of features important to him/her; so it is nice to have lots of features to reach a broader customer base.
It is a bit annoying that the watch feels a bit like a beta, but I did expect that going into it (being the first WearOS 3 device, and buying it the moment it was released). But with regular updates, I am sure it will get worked out.
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I already have a GW3 classic (still sitting on the desk). And it did suit me fine for years, except the battery is half worn-out now. Plus, it had no search capability, which is the killer feature I wanted in the GW4 (and doesn't really have it quite yet). I don't use the exercise/health or mapping. I use it mostly for time, calendar, notifications, weather, AOD, stopwatch, and occasional texting. Most of the other features are a waste on me, that is true. Of course, each person will have a set of features important to him/her; so it is nice to have lots of features to reach a broader customer base.
It is a bit annoying that the watch feels a bit like a beta, but I did expect that going into it (being the first WearOS 3 device, and buying it the moment it was released). But with regular updates, I am sure it will get worked out.
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Fair enough. I passed on the Galaxy Watch as it didn't offer me any significant advantages over my Gear S3s (one of which I still have) and the GW3 seemed like a downgrade from the Galaxy Watch given the smaller battery (plus we didn't ever get the much-vaunted BP and ECG here in Canada - and still don't have it officially for the GW4).
BTW, I replaced the battery myself in both of my Gear S3s - you can order Samsung originals online, and installation is easy if you're careful and mechanically inclined. Not sure if that is the case for the GW3 and GW4, but something to keep in mind should you ever decide you'd like to extend the life of your watch.
jtOttawa said:
Fair enough. I passed on the Galaxy Watch as it didn't offer me any significant advantages over my Gear S3s (one of which I still have) and the GW3 seemed like a downgrade from the Galaxy Watch given the smaller battery (plus we didn't ever get the much-vaunted BP and ECG here in Canada - and still don't have it officially for the GW4).
BTW, I replaced the battery myself in both of my Gear S3s - you can order Samsung originals online, and installation is easy if you're careful and mechanically inclined. Not sure if that is the case for the GW3 and GW4, but something to keep in mind should you ever decide you'd like to extend the life of your watch.
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
crxssi said:
Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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Agreed! Silver with the black bezel was the only option - much preferred (and still prefer) the look of the all-black S3. Plus, the battery life on the S3 was just fine as far as I was concerned - and with the new battery, I'm getting 3+ days again.
crxssi said:
Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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BTW, here's the link if you ever want to order original Samsung parts for your S3 (and I see they are just starting to get parts for the GW4): https://rounded.com/?subcats=Y&pcod...erformed=Y&q=gear+s3&dispatch=products.search
jtOttawa said:
Agreed! Silver with the black bezel was the only option - much preferred (and still prefer) the look of the all-black S3.
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I wanted all silver, no black
jtOttawa said:
BTW, here's the link if you ever want to order original Samsung parts for your S3 (and I see they are just starting to get parts for the GW4): https://rounded.com/?subcats=Y&pcod...erformed=Y&q=gear+s3&dispatch=products.search
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amirage said:
With location on, I would start the day with 100% and 6 hours in to the day I would have lost around 25%. With location off and under the same conditions, I would have lost around 16%. That's about 9% save over 6 hours. In both these situations, I'm assuming the same level of activity.
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Can you clarify if you have LTE or non-LTE version of watch? Do you have "improve accuaracy" on? I have non-LTE Classic 46mm and I have location services on but improve accuracy off. I'm getting very good battery life and have never experienced loosing 25% in 6 hours. I'm getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life. What face are you using and is there something on your face which would be using location services? What apps do you have allowed in permissions? To determine this go into location in settings (on watch), then permissions, then allowed.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on).
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I notice no change in battery life between location on (with improve accuracy OFF) and with location off. Still around 25% over 9 hours (46mm non-LTE classic, AOD on, health stuff off, WiFi off, very sparce notifications, Watchmaker face).
fliptwister said:
Can you clarify if you have LTE or non-LTE version of watch? Do you have "improve accuaracy" on? I have non-LTE Classic 46mm and I have location services on but improve accuracy off. I'm getting very good battery life and have never experienced loosing 25% in 6 hours. I'm getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life. What face are you using and is there something on your face which would be using location services? What apps do you have allowed in permissions? To determine this go into location in settings (on watch), then permissions, then allowed.
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I'm on non-LTE version and improve accuracy is switched off. I have the activity watch face which shows the steps counter, weather, heart rate etc. So, yes, health services are on which is one of the main reasons I got this watch. Notifications are also on for apps that I have enabled. I have limited location usage on almost all apps...Anyways, I'm still playing with the watch a lot so let's see once everything settles down...BTW on the update prior to the DUJA...I believe DUJA has a lot of battery improvements.
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
amirage said:
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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It isn't like you need to speculate. Just turn it on and see. AOD will drain the battery more than most anything else you can do with a non-LTE watch. It will easily will cut run time in at least half (when using a robust watchface). And since you will have to charge more often, it will also wear out the battery much more quickly (hopefully replacing the battery in the GW4/4C will not be a nightmare). But it is also awesome (and a "must" for me).
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It isn't like you need to speculate. Just turn it on and see. AOD will drain the battery more than most anything else you can do with a non-LTE watch. It will easily will cut run time in at least half (when using a robust watchface). And since you will have to charge more often, it will also wear out the battery much more quickly (hopefully replacing the battery in the GW4/4C will not be a nightmare). But it is also awesome (and a "must" for me).
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I think I'll pass on the AOD.
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I'm on non-LTE version and improve accuracy is switched off. I have the activity watch face which shows the steps counter, weather, heart rate etc. So, yes, health services are on which is one of the main reasons I got this watch. Notifications are also on for apps that I have enabled. I have limited location usage on almost all apps...Anyways, I'm still playing with the watch a lot so let's see once everything settles down...BTW on the update prior to the DUJA...I believe DUJA has a lot of battery improvements.
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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It was not health services I was concerned with. Not sure how weather on face gets its information. I can't imagine it would use location from your watch but I don't know...