Hi all,
Just wanted to check...if you have location services switched on on this device. I tried switching it off and experienced a remarkable improvement in the battery life. Am I missing something without location services on?
According to the user guide, the Galaxy Watch 4 draws the location from your phone when this is connected to it via BT, except for Samsung Health. What kind of improvement did you see? My watch drains around 2% per hour during the day with normal use and 10% over night. This is with everything on, apart from AOD and with Location on Improved Accuracy.
Fousekis7 said:
According to the user guide, the Galaxy Watch 4 draws the location from your phone when this is connected to it via BT, except for Samsung Health. What kind of improvement did you see? My watch drains around 2% per hour during the day with normal use and 10% over night. This is with everything on, apart from AOD and with Location on Improved Accuracy.
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With location on, I would start the day with 100% and 6 hours in to the day I would have lost around 25%. With location off and under the same conditions, I would have lost around 16%. That's about 9% save over 6 hours. In both these situations, I'm assuming the same level of activity.
Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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I'm not sure why the watch would request for location from the phone when there is an inbuilt GPS receiver. But, yes, long story short, without the location enabled, the battery life is great.
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I'm not sure why the watch would request for location from the phone when there is an inbuilt GPS receiver.
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I assume because it is a lot less "expensive" to ask the phone than to exert a lot of battery to find out on its own.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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I'm getting great battery life with location turned on - and IMHO turning location off on the Galaxy Watch 4 kinda negates its main advantages over the Galaxy Watch (Google Maps, etc.).
If battery life is your overriding priority, and you don't care about the health and location-based features of the GW4, I would suggest that you buy an original Galaxy Watch, at a fraction of the price, and up to 2x the battery life.
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I'm getting great battery life with location turned on - and IMHO turning location off on the Galaxy Watch 4 kinda negates its main advantages over the Galaxy Watch (Google Maps, etc.).
If battery life is your overriding priority, and you don't care about the health and location-based features of the GW4, I would suggest that you buy an original Galaxy Watch, at a fraction of the price, and up to 2x the battery life.
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I already have a S3 classic (still sitting on the desk). And it did suit me fine for years, except the battery is half worn-out now. Plus, it had no search capability, which is the killer feature I wanted in the GW4 (and doesn't really have it quite yet). I don't use the exercise/health or mapping. I use it mostly for time, calendar, notifications, weather, AOD, stopwatch, and occasional texting. Most of the other features are a waste on me, that is true. Of course, each person will have a set of features important to him/her; so it is nice to have lots of features to reach a broader customer base.
It is a bit annoying that the watch feels a bit like a beta, but I did expect that going into it (being the first WearOS 3 device, and buying it the moment it was released). But with regular updates, I am sure it will get worked out.
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I already have a GW3 classic (still sitting on the desk). And it did suit me fine for years, except the battery is half worn-out now. Plus, it had no search capability, which is the killer feature I wanted in the GW4 (and doesn't really have it quite yet). I don't use the exercise/health or mapping. I use it mostly for time, calendar, notifications, weather, AOD, stopwatch, and occasional texting. Most of the other features are a waste on me, that is true. Of course, each person will have a set of features important to him/her; so it is nice to have lots of features to reach a broader customer base.
It is a bit annoying that the watch feels a bit like a beta, but I did expect that going into it (being the first WearOS 3 device, and buying it the moment it was released). But with regular updates, I am sure it will get worked out.
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Fair enough. I passed on the Galaxy Watch as it didn't offer me any significant advantages over my Gear S3s (one of which I still have) and the GW3 seemed like a downgrade from the Galaxy Watch given the smaller battery (plus we didn't ever get the much-vaunted BP and ECG here in Canada - and still don't have it officially for the GW4).
BTW, I replaced the battery myself in both of my Gear S3s - you can order Samsung originals online, and installation is easy if you're careful and mechanically inclined. Not sure if that is the case for the GW3 and GW4, but something to keep in mind should you ever decide you'd like to extend the life of your watch.
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Fair enough. I passed on the Galaxy Watch as it didn't offer me any significant advantages over my Gear S3s (one of which I still have) and the GW3 seemed like a downgrade from the Galaxy Watch given the smaller battery (plus we didn't ever get the much-vaunted BP and ECG here in Canada - and still don't have it officially for the GW4).
BTW, I replaced the battery myself in both of my Gear S3s - you can order Samsung originals online, and installation is easy if you're careful and mechanically inclined. Not sure if that is the case for the GW3 and GW4, but something to keep in mind should you ever decide you'd like to extend the life of your watch.
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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Agreed! Silver with the black bezel was the only option - much preferred (and still prefer) the look of the all-black S3. Plus, the battery life on the S3 was just fine as far as I was concerned - and with the new battery, I'm getting 3+ days again.
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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BTW, here's the link if you ever want to order original Samsung parts for your S3 (and I see they are just starting to get parts for the GW4): https://rounded.com/?subcats=Y&pcod...erformed=Y&q=gear+s3&dispatch=products.search
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Agreed! Silver with the black bezel was the only option - much preferred (and still prefer) the look of the all-black S3.
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I wanted all silver, no black
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BTW, here's the link if you ever want to order original Samsung parts for your S3 (and I see they are just starting to get parts for the GW4): https://rounded.com/?subcats=Y&pcod...erformed=Y&q=gear+s3&dispatch=products.search
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With location on, I would start the day with 100% and 6 hours in to the day I would have lost around 25%. With location off and under the same conditions, I would have lost around 16%. That's about 9% save over 6 hours. In both these situations, I'm assuming the same level of activity.
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Can you clarify if you have LTE or non-LTE version of watch? Do you have "improve accuaracy" on? I have non-LTE Classic 46mm and I have location services on but improve accuracy off. I'm getting very good battery life and have never experienced loosing 25% in 6 hours. I'm getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life. What face are you using and is there something on your face which would be using location services? What apps do you have allowed in permissions? To determine this go into location in settings (on watch), then permissions, then allowed.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on).
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I notice no change in battery life between location on (with improve accuracy OFF) and with location off. Still around 25% over 9 hours (46mm non-LTE classic, AOD on, health stuff off, WiFi off, very sparce notifications, Watchmaker face).
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Can you clarify if you have LTE or non-LTE version of watch? Do you have "improve accuaracy" on? I have non-LTE Classic 46mm and I have location services on but improve accuracy off. I'm getting very good battery life and have never experienced loosing 25% in 6 hours. I'm getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life. What face are you using and is there something on your face which would be using location services? What apps do you have allowed in permissions? To determine this go into location in settings (on watch), then permissions, then allowed.
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I'm on non-LTE version and improve accuracy is switched off. I have the activity watch face which shows the steps counter, weather, heart rate etc. So, yes, health services are on which is one of the main reasons I got this watch. Notifications are also on for apps that I have enabled. I have limited location usage on almost all apps...Anyways, I'm still playing with the watch a lot so let's see once everything settles down...BTW on the update prior to the DUJA...I believe DUJA has a lot of battery improvements.
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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It isn't like you need to speculate. Just turn it on and see. AOD will drain the battery more than most anything else you can do with a non-LTE watch. It will easily will cut run time in at least half (when using a robust watchface). And since you will have to charge more often, it will also wear out the battery much more quickly (hopefully replacing the battery in the GW4/4C will not be a nightmare). But it is also awesome (and a "must" for me).
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It isn't like you need to speculate. Just turn it on and see. AOD will drain the battery more than most anything else you can do with a non-LTE watch. It will easily will cut run time in at least half (when using a robust watchface). And since you will have to charge more often, it will also wear out the battery much more quickly (hopefully replacing the battery in the GW4/4C will not be a nightmare). But it is also awesome (and a "must" for me).
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I think I'll pass on the AOD.
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I'm on non-LTE version and improve accuracy is switched off. I have the activity watch face which shows the steps counter, weather, heart rate etc. So, yes, health services are on which is one of the main reasons I got this watch. Notifications are also on for apps that I have enabled. I have limited location usage on almost all apps...Anyways, I'm still playing with the watch a lot so let's see once everything settles down...BTW on the update prior to the DUJA...I believe DUJA has a lot of battery improvements.
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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It was not health services I was concerned with. Not sure how weather on face gets its information. I can't imagine it would use location from your watch but I don't know...
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Hi,
I'm trying to figure out what options would keep my battery life up on the s2 3g.
I've had the watch for a couple days now and I'm trying to figure out which features drain the most battery.
I would like to keep 3g on (but it's not really necessary when sitting at my desk all day), bluetooth, and always on. I don't mind keeping the screen at a brightness of 3, and my watch face is a dark background, I have 6 apps selected for notifications.
I do not have gps, or wifi on.
I guess what would be helpful is basically a list of the most battery draining items on the watch. It would also be great to have a battery management app (for the developers out there) that could quickly turn on/off certain items. Right now there's a battery saving mode, a do not disturb mode, and airplane mode... these are all in different locations, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to have some more quick control over all these types of items and additional ones to just manage all the battery draining items, like the pedometer and other "ometers"... is there a way to turn those items off?
Overall I love the watch, but it would be nice to not be thinking about the battery so much... and just use it.
I'm wondering the same thing. Turned it on at around 6am, have brightness set to 1. Haven't used it that much. Wake up gesture is on but not screen always on. I'm at 30% at 2:41pm....with my gear s I was able to get through a 6am-9/10pm day on auto brightness and still have a little battery left (that included a 2 mile walk in the morning using some health exercise with gear s.) I haven't even used the exercise option in this (other than the pedometer) because I'm afraid it will drain the battery.
I love everything else about the s2 though
I'm suppose to get mine this week and battery is my biggest concern. I plan to use this to run for up to 2.5 hours and play mp3's. I might cancel based on what you 2 are saying.
I do have nfc on, 3g on auto switch, and WiFi set to on (only switches on if I walk out of bt range) I did get a lot of espn notifications, texts, email...but not any more than I did on the gear S. I have the screen set to stay dark and not turn on for notifications. With my gear S I had the screen set to turn on full screen with every notification. I'm going to try tomorrow with nfc, 3g, and WiFi off....but, I shouldn't have to do that...I should be able to use all those, if needed, and still be able to get the 14-16 hours+ that I was getting with my Gear S. Like I said, I do really love everything else about it!
Try a restart
I had a terrible first day, with the Watch dying after 8 hours. I suspected that some of the app installs were having and draining it so I restarted both phone and watch.. The next day, I got 15 hours and still had 40 percent left. I have NFC and wifi turned off, network to autoswitch (with me leaving phone home and relying on 3g for 2 hours), turned off "always on" screen (because the wake gesture is SO much more accurate than with Gear S), and a white watchfacer with brightness set to 7. Very happy so far. Suggest restarting watch and phone after Gear app installs or updates
Thanks! I'll try that. Is your location/gps set to off? I also had s voice set to a voice commands and have now turned that off. Is a white watchface or black more draining? (I would assume white would drain the battery more)
I think the NFC, GPS, Always on being turned off have been a huge help with the battery life, and I understand why those things would drain a battery, but it would be nice to be able to have everything turned on and at least get a day's use.
In general I assume the first day you get the watch it his heavily impacted by the app downloads... I let it drain to zero and then fully to 100%... I also stopped playing with it every ten seconds. BUT as I mentioned earlier, this should be usable for a day minimum with normal usage. If Samsung has a "normal" usage setting in mind that will allow for a day (or the 2 days advertised for the 3g version), there should literally be an option in settings called "normal usage" that should get you the 2 days.
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I think the NFC, GPS, Always on being turned off have been a huge help with the battery life, and I understand why those things would drain a battery, but it would be nice to be able to have everything turned on and at least get a day's use.
In general I assume the first day you get the watch it his heavily impacted by the app downloads... I let it drain to zero and then fully to 100%... I also stopped playing with it every ten seconds. BUT as I mentioned earlier, this should be usable for a day minimum with normal usage. If Samsung has a "normal" usage setting in mind that will allow for a day (or the 2 days advertised for the 3g version), there should literally be an option in settings called "normal usage" that should get you the 2 days.
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I absolutely agree! I was able to get 14-16 hour day (with some left) on my gear s, with all the options that I wanted turned on. This this new and improved device should, at a minimum, give me comparable battery life! I'm also having an issue with the activity tracker telling me I'm doing light activity when I'm sitting on the couch watching TV....that is definitely not light activity.
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I absolutely agree! I was able to get 14-16 hour day (with some left) on my gear s, with all the options that I wanted turned on. This this new and improved device should, at a minimum, give me comparable battery life! I'm also having an issue with the activity tracker telling me I'm doing light activity when I'm sitting on the couch watching TV....that is definitely not light activity.
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Maybe in Korea "light activity" means "couch potato"?
Yea, we'll see what happens with future updates. One of the big draws to this watch (aside from all the other enticing factors) was the battery life... I guess time will tell.
Use close all apps feature on gear s2 3g to save battery life
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Use close all apps feature on gear s2 3g to save battery life
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How does one get to this 'close all apps' feature?
Go to Apps and select blue circle. I think, it is last opened apps. There You can select Close all.
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Was also curious about everyones setup.
First 2 days i didnt take into account battery because i was playing with it alot.
Today, booted watch at 7am, booted, got on, checked in 15 minutes, and was from 100-69%
Current setup,
display at 3%
about 10 apps that alert,
S Health
3G/4G is at auto
GPS-off
NFC-off
WiFi-off
i did have a Power Ranger face(which i loved) but it had alot livewallpaper action, blinking lights, and pieces that moved etc, changed to the default one with the stars in background with digial.
i am currently at 33% from 7 1/2 hours of usage
no music, have not taken any calls, havent responded to any messages, literally looked and swiped away.
Would a rooted Sam N4 have any effect on the performance of the watch?
I was on stock, but was horrible after the lolipop update.
Still on stock ROM, just rooted and bloatware removed, nothing special.
Ok, good thing there is a thread on this already.
So first day I didn't take battery into consideration, because you always fiddle with it too much. Then I had to work for two days, and my job is heavy construction, so I don't bring my watch, I left it on the charger for two days straight. I put it on Friday night, and didn't charge it till Saturday night. Today (Sunday) I was at 15% by about 12pm, and I took it out of the charger by 9am. This doesn't seem right. Did leaving it on the charger for too long mess up my battery? What is going on here?
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Were you on just 3g...instead of bt? My battery life has improved with turning a lot of the options (wifi, nfc, heartrate monitoring) off. If I'm on 3g it is a whole different story....accidentally left my phone home the other night and was remotely connected between watch and phone....dropped down 40% in less than two hours. Has anyone else had a similar issue?
I don't have the 3g model, I have the classic. Yesterday it was good for the whole day, but to be honest I didn't check the battery when I took it off the charger this morning. I went to bed at 2am,so maybe between 2 am and 9 am it didn't have time to fully charge?
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I think the variant of the 3g gear s2 and your network is key for battery life.
I have a tmobile carrier gear s2 and the battery life for the first two days was at about 18 hours off the charger each day and ending up with 15% at the end of each day before charging.
Mind you this is with 3 email accounts getting maybe 10 emails per hour, Answering texts and even taking a call or two on the watch, and also controlling my spotify for my note.
The tmobile watch has auto on/off 3g for when you disconnect from bluetooth or WiFi to your phone. I've heard that not all gear s2's have the auto on/off 3g feature?
Overall highly satisfied. But just turn off what you don't need when you don't use it has always been the name of the game when it comes to any mobile battery life. Nfc doesn't need to be on if you don't use samsung pay consistently. Neither does WiFi. Bluetooth and or 3g should be all anyone really every needs for true daily usage imo
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I agree. I have had the 3g version since 2 days after its launch on T-Mobile. I had a white one and returned it b/c I was convinced something was wrong with the watch. I got a second one (black one) two weeks later and have the same issue. If I turn off all of the functions I wanted the watch for -- i.e., 3g, Wifi, NFC -- I can get a day of use. This is really disappointing b/c I have the classic as well, and it lasts twice as long with the same amount of activity. I hope Samsung does not something to extend the battery life on the 3g version.
I also have the Tmobile Gear S2 and on the first full day, I only got about 10 hours of battery life with very little use using all of the watch defaults. On day 2, I opted to turn off wifi and the cell radio and now I have great battery life. In excess of 17 hours if not more. On day 3 I decided to turn on wifi and bluetooth only. Battery life is still fantastic, once again in excess of 17 hours if not more. Next test will be all three radios on again, then just the cell radio only.
Hope this helps,
GP
What are you guys doing with your watches that you need 3g and wifi on all the time? I have mine setup with bluetooth on and 3g auto with wifi, gps, and NFC turned off. I also have the heart rate monitor turned on and set to take my heart rate as often as it will. I have screen on all day and display is at 3. I can make it a full day (630a - 10p) and still have about 40% left. I basically use mine while at work to check notifications so I'm not constantly picking up my phone just to clear a twitter notification. I know they made it so that you can use these for content consumption, but I don't think it was ever meant to be it's primary function, that's what the $700 cell phone in my pocket or the 400 tablet in my backpack is for. That being said, if you wanted to use it for a run and listen to music, do it. Just know that you may need to throw it on the charger later on when you are relaxing on the couch. To me, a full days use on any device is fair, but that's just my 2c.
To discuss hands on real life battery performance of Gear S3.
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Really! I mean REALLY....battery life again.....come on. its so subjective. While most posters moan about battery life on smart watches and mobiles etc I turn this point on its head and rather marvel at what such devices deliver considering they are powered by such small batteries.
The vast majority of mobile owners moan about battery and cannot accept the batteries limitations.
The watch is not even on sale yet but we can guarantee it will please a few and upset the majority .
If you want year long battery life one has to look at the conventional watch not the smart watches. Even better go automatic.
Too much amphetamines bro. Lol.
2 full days on Gear S now
I get 2 full days on my Gear S now, so am hoping the S3 does the same with Always On feature active. I do not mind charging daily though, not a big deal.
I get 2 - 3 days from my Gear S2 easily.
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I get 2 - 3 days from my Gear S2 easily.
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Hey guys...
I have yet to tweak anything on the watch and it is connected to my S7 Edge.
I get less than "a Business day" use out of the current out of the box set up. This is the NON-LTE version.
Things worth noting:
1. I do not use always on.
2. I have brightness set to 5 during the day and 2 at night.
3. GPS, Bluetooth, and location are on.
4. Have not altered the out of the box systems that monitor health yet.
5. I have added several apps, Flipboard, Gmail, Gcalendar, Uber, white light, google map, xenozu(you tube-player), calculator, remote camera, weather monitors 2 cities and several watch faces.
6. having it 100% charged at midnight/1am and no use other than sleeping with it on leaves the watch at 50% by 7am.
Anyone finding or knowing what tweaks and adjustments start saving on battery life...please let me know. I will report once I make a few changes as well.
I am sure with some simple changes, we will all be able to use the watch all day without charging it. Anyone that found any changes to their older S2 helped?
Dan
I have had the non LTE version Gear S3 since launch day. I can go through a full day (7 am to 11 pm) and the battery level is b/w 50-55%. I have been wearing the watch overnight to monitor my sleep the last several days. When I wake up around 7 am, the battery level is b/w 45-50%.
Settings:
Display: Always On activated
Bluetooth: On
Wifi: Automatic
NFC: On
Location: Off
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Hey guys...
I have yet to tweak anything on the watch and it is connected to my S7 Edge.
I get less than "a Business day" use out of the current out of the box set up. This is the NON-LTE version.
Things worth noting:
1. I do not use always on.
2. I have brightness set to 5 during the day and 2 at night.
3. GPS, Bluetooth, and location are on.
4. Have not altered the out of the box systems that monitor health yet.
5. I have added several apps, Flipboard, Gmail, Gcalendar, Uber, white light, google map, xenozu(you tube-player), calculator, remote camera, weather monitors 2 cities and several watch faces.
6. having it 100% charged at midnight/1am and no use other than sleeping with it on leaves the watch at 50% by 7am.
Anyone finding or knowing what tweaks and adjustments start saving on battery life...please let me know. I will report once I make a few changes as well.
I am sure with some simple changes, we will all be able to use the watch all day without charging it. Anyone that found any changes to their older S2 helped?
Dan
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Where did you get Gmail and Gcalendar for your watch?
My appologies
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Where did you get Gmail and Gcalendar for your watch?
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It is not Gmail or Gcalander...it is a Samsung or 3rd party app that syncs with my Google stuff. Again my apologies.
Dan
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It is not Gmail or Gcalander...it is a Samsung or 3rd party app that syncs with my Google stuff. Again my apologies.
Dan
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Had me excited there for a second....
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Had me excited there for a second....
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It will come sooner or later...
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I can get 1.5 to 2 days of battery life. This includes roaming around for 2-3 hours a day without my phone. I had to condition the battery a few times (draining it to 0) before it would last more than a day.
Settings:
Display: Always On activated
Bluetooth: On
Wifi: Off
NFC: Off
Location: Off
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I can get 1.5 to 2 days of battery life. This includes roaming around for 2-3 hours a day without my phone. I had to condition the battery a few times (draining it to 0) before it would last more than a day.
Settings:
Display: Always On activated
Bluetooth: On
Wifi: Off
NFC: Off
Location: Off
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i dont know what they did in the last update , but ive gone from almost 3 days to not even 1 day now on my frontier ... im not impressed at all, i missed my alarm this morning because of a flat fkn watch ....
I need to recondition the battery, but after turning off "diagnostic and usage reporting" I found that the battery life has increased from 1d12hr to 2d16hr. I feel like that had a huge impact.
Canadian S3 Frontier (SM-R760) on XAR. Have yet to use Samsung Pay, but it's on there now. See post #290 this thread for details on how to change Frontier CSC.
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I need to recondition the battery, but after turning off "diagnostic and usage reporting" I found that the battery life has increased from 1d12hr to 2d16hr. I feel like that had a huge impact.
Canadian S3 Frontier (SM-R760) on XAR. Have yet to use Samsung Pay, but it's on there now. See post #290 this thread for details on how to change Frontier CSC.
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how'd you turn that off?
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how'd you turn that off?
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Settings>About>Scroll down
it's second from last
My personal experience with the problem of strong battery drain on Gear S3 classical vers after updated with tizen 3.0:
- I have read that this was a common problem and several posts regarding this issue
- I have factory reset the watch
- I have changed my band from curved to standard. I had one of the nice curved version, I have changed with a standard band that allow the hearth rate monitor to be completely on my wrist. Please note that I have a relatively small wrist for others this may have no significance.
I did this because in one post I read that Samsung has changed the AOD setting to be managed not anymore by Gyroscope but by the heart rate sensor
- I have designed with Gear watch Designer several faces. I have observed that the main issue was that the AOD was not reducing the brightness.
Then I have designed a face having very lo brightness in the AOD version (6.6% ratio)
Now comes the strange......
- I have tested the watch for few days with the same settings (no wifi, no location, brightness level 5, AOD on, BT on) and doing the same things starting from full (nominal) charge 100% in the early morning .......
RESULT
- The first hour or so the battery level decreases very quickly until 90% (approx rate 10% in 1 hr) but then (...... surprise surprise .....). the discharge decreases and stabilizes for the rest of the day at a rate approximately of 4% per hr.
After 12 hrs of use I have about 45% of battery remaining
I believe that the watch does not charges completely in real and that the 100% is only nominal
ever since the last update, i have been getting a solid 6-7 hours of use out of the battery
I find the battery drains terribly on this firmware,my watch can only survive one day without sim card and always on disabled.any solutions?Is there anyone flashed the same firmware?please post your battery draining status here or give me some suggestions.Thank you!
The advice in this thread healped with my crazy drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/watch-urbane/help/poor-battery-life-wear-2-0-preview-fix-t3410178
Robatic said:
The advice in this thread healped with my crazy drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/watch-urbane/help/poor-battery-life-wear-2-0-preview-fix-t3410178
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what's your battery status now? how many %drained per hour?
2%-2.5%/hour with cellular off
I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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Good point. The OLED tech used on our LG watches saves energy by only lighting areas of the screen that aren't black. And color takes more power than black & white. So, for everyday use, I picked a simple, minimal, white-on-black watch face.--"Elements".
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I've seen big difference in battery drain based on watch face. I decided to stick to Elements Analog, as I had issues with some of the AW1.5 watch faces.
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Agreed...and also whether you have your watch's SIM card enabled or not...battery life is terribly low with 3G/LTE enabled but improves dramatically when its turned off...I live with the fact that I only need the watch in "un-paired" mode to have GPS functionality for my fitness workouts.
Thank you all for your generous help.
Moe5508 said:
Agreed...and also whether you have your watch's SIM card enabled or not...battery life is terribly low with 3G/LTE enabled but improves dramatically when its turned off...I live with the fact that I only need the watch in "un-paired" mode to have GPS functionality for my fitness workouts.
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how low exactly?can it last a day?
With cell turned off I can get 2-3 days of usage. With cell on, it gets to 1-2 days.
Is it worth to get it updated to the preview? The Android Wear 2.0 OTA supported to come at the end of May.
Since the Galaxy Watch 4 is not a champion when it comes to battery life, I'm sure we're many wanting at least 2 days battery life WITHOUT disabling all the features that made us bought the GW4 at the first place.
I can easily achieve 2 days battery life AOD Off, Wifi Off. All the other features is turned on.
I was wondering if turning on AOD and disabling Raise Wrist to wake would still grant me 2 days battery life since I heard that apparently RWTW consume a pretty good amount of battery every time we tilt our wrist.
How about you guys?
AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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With that configuration how long does the watch stand approximately? Do you track sleep at night and with a workout routine does the watch still have battery left until the morning?
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AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case) - and I'll take the extra battery life with it off any day over any real or perceived inconvenience of turning your wrist to see the time.
I haven't yet been able to fully determine how well it works on the GW4, but on the Gear S3 it was perfectly fine, so I am expecting it to be at least as good.
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case)
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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That's fair enough.
AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
Since my daily routine include a workout session and since I use sleep tracking, I am afraid that my daily routine can't be compatibile with AOD. It's a annoying not to be able to use the watch to full capacity and having to make choice between fancy look and fitness.
Hope they will be able to improve battery life with updates...
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AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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Thanks for the tips!
I checked all the topics (one topic with 2 answers mentions that) and I didn't find an answer to my question, which is:
Is using only bluetooth connection on LTE version watch has worse performance than using watch with only bluetooth version?
Manual says it is possible to change LTE connection to "always off" in the settings, so theoretically battery life should be the same.
And while you are already here, one more question: LTE connection allows only to recieve calls and sms, no app notifs as standalone, right?
I am facing a decission which one 46mm classic shall I buy, and LTE is only 20$ more so I wonder, as I would use eSIM ocasionally, if I should get more expensive one (price for plan taken into account, low cost).
Most worrying are stories that right out of the box LTE versions battery life is pathetic; not even reaching 18hrs not even connected to LTE, while bluetooth versions are doing much better. Any chance that updates changed these problems?
Thanks in advance.
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I checked all the topics (one topic with 2 answers mentions that) and I didn't find an answer to my question, which is:
Is using only bluetooth connection on LTE version watch has worse performance than using watch with only bluetooth version?
Manual says it is possible to change LTE connection to "always off" in the settings, so theoretically battery life should be the same.
And while you are already here, one more question: LTE connection allows only to recieve calls and sms, no app notifs as standalone, right?
I am facing a decission which one 46mm classic shall I buy, and LTE is only 20$ more so I wonder, as I would use eSIM ocasionally, if I should get more expensive one (price for plan taken into account, low cost).
Most worrying are stories that right out of the box LTE versions battery life is pathetic; not even reaching 18hrs not even connected to LTE, while bluetooth versions are doing much better. Any chance that updates changed these problems?
Thanks in advance.
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I am also wondering which one gets the best battery life. Hopefully someone has an answer, so both of us can make a more informed purchase decision.
It is unlikely anyone can really answer your question authoritatively because I doubt anyone here has BOTH an LTE and non-LTE watch such that they can be compared with otherwise identical setup and use-cases.
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I am also wondering which one gets the best battery life. Hopefully someone has an answer, so both of us can make a more informed purchase decision.
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These are information I was able to find:
*There are some posts over the net of owners claiming that LTE has poor battery life, which is changing every update - once for worse, once for better. There are some news today saying that latest update made battery life worse.
*There is one topic on this forum saying directly that LTE version with Bluetooth turned on has worse battery life than regular LTE, while some owners post LTE screenshots of getting 2 days of battery life
*LTE versions receive updates later - needs confirmation
*LTE allows to recieve and make sms and calls, and also to use Google maps sort-of. Watch standalone doesn't receive phone apps notifications.
*First days are the phase of watch learning battery habits, usually length of battery cycle extends
That's most important info I was able to find so far where it is not mentioned in reviews. Feel free to add something that will be useful for someone looking for advice and if I wrote something wrong - please correct me.
I ordered LTE version. Gonna check out how it will handle basic tasks.
Also there's one very good discussion about the problem:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/p8wj76/_/h9xjbcf
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It is unlikely anyone can really answer your question authoritatively because I doubt anyone here has BOTH an LTE and non-LTE watch such that they can be compared with otherwise identical setup and use-cases.
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Well, it is kinda unacceptable, but i might order two models and gonna compare both of them and return one as it might turn with worse battery life than the other. I want to avoid that, so I'm searching for advice here. If i won't find any, there will be only one thing left for me to do.
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Well, it is kinda unacceptable, but i might order two models and gonna compare both of them and return one as it might turn with worse battery life than the other. I want to avoid that, so I'm searching for advice here. If i won't find any, there will be only one thing left for me to do.
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You do not need to do that. It is simple logic. BT and LTE will have exactly the same battery life if you turn mobile data off on the LTE model. If you actively use LTE, this will drain the battery in less than 12 hours.
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You do not need to do that. It is simple logic. BT and LTE will have exactly the same battery life if you turn mobile data off on the LTE model. If you actively use LTE, this will drain the battery in less than 12 hours.
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Yes, there is some logic behind that, but surprisingly there are topics like this:
Where are the battery troubles in the LTE models coming from
There seems to be some sort of consensus that the LTE versions of the watch have more battery trouble Has anyone actually given it some thought as to why? When LTE is off it should not make a difference, but it does seem to exist. Is the...
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FWIW, I have an LTE Galaxy watch 4 (non classic) 44mm. I usually get 36-48 hours with LTE mode on automatic (which means it only connects to LTE when BT is disconnected or there is no data connection from phone, of course if the phone had no data like in an elevator then the watch won't either regardless of it trying to connect to the same non existent data source). If I turn LTE off completely I can stretch it out to 2 full days. But that's my usage, ymmv.
I too have a GW4 Classic 46mm and have experienced battery drain, however, I expected this and am prepared to live with it as being untethered from my phone was THE primary reason for purchasing this model (My previous watch was a Gear S3 BT version hooked up to my S9).
I hate being out for a run and having to carry my phone with me. It's much more convenient, for me at least, to head out now with my Buds Pro and stream Spotify and not have to carry my bulky S21 Ultra (even with an arm band).
Mind you, when I say battery drain, I'm using mobile data, GPS, AOD and BT, so it's expected.
It's not a deal breaker as far as I'm concerned as I chuck it on the charger while in the shower and by the time I'm ready to wear it again, it's back to the battery level it was when I walked out the door.
Everyone's use case and expectations will vary though and opinions are like aholes; everyone has one.
Hopefully the efficiency of the watch and it's OS improve over the next 6 to 12 months but I, for one, am happy with mine.
If you're searching for the perfect piece of tech, thats akin to searching for that elusive pot of gold at the end of that rainbow.
Happy trails!
No Change in battery life if u use automatic mode. I have Galaxy watch 46 mm and my battery remains on 45 percent at the end of day when i use bluetooth or LTE only mode. Original glaxy waych is bigger and has bigger battery with less functions and hence lasts longer.
I totally agree with this. That's why I got it. But nevertheless the battery life isn't long enough for a 2 hour run if LTE, BT playing music are active. It really is frustrating. I actually power the watch off totally and only power up just as I begin a run.
I have both. I have a watch 4 classic and a watch 4 lte. This is not to say my experience is better, worse, or the same as anyone else's but here is what I've dealt with. The Bluetooth only lasts about a day and a half, sometimes 2. The LTE version was at least a day, until after a couple of updates. The LTE version over heats on me whether I am on LTE or not or even have it turned on. I can't run many apps without it overheating. Turning on LTE without the watch pretty much turns it to airplane mode. If I just leave it set to automatic and not really do much with it other than let it be a watch and receive notifications. Now the battery life is horrible. I can take it off the charger and drive to work, a 10 minute drive, it's already down to 92-95 percent by the time I clock in. By lunch, it's asking to go into battery saver mode. That's with LTE mode in automatic. Turning it off is not better. I tried to track a hike and it overheated on me. I got the LTE version because of the fall detection just in case anything happened on the mountain trail. I had to turn LTE off to continue and even then battery drained like crazy and the device was sluggish. Totally defeating the purpose of me paying for it.It wasn't that bad in the beginning but if course, it's worse after my return period ended.
has anyone with LTE model and using auto mode that lte will stay on no matter what? mine for some reason won't turn off the lte connection even when my phone is connected to it. very seldom do i see the bluetooth only with my phone around. am i missing something?
I've notice that watch being connected to wifi with LTE on auto has much worse battery life. Ergo - i set LTE on only purposefully while choosing to go out without phone, otherwise i choose LTE always off. When i choose LTE off it switches off without problem. Does restart help?
When I went to bed, my watch was on about 60%, left it in the shelf and thought there would be enough juice for the next day but was down to 45%, when the watch isn't on a wrist, surely it goes into a low power state?
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I've notice that watch being connected to wifi with LTE on auto has much worse battery life. Ergo - i set LTE on only purposefully while choosing to go out without phone, otherwise i choose LTE always off. When i choose LTE off it switches off without problem. Does restart help?
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Me too. Though I tried setting LTE to ON and then to auto and it seems to now deactivate when connected to by or Wi-Fi (at least from the quick settings pane or can I see somewhere else if lte is active?)
HI all,
Are there any updates if there are differences in the performance between LTE in BT mode and BT only?
@Bo_Doc, did you manage to find out, did you buy both?
I am currently with LTE 46mm. Airplane mode is turned ON and then BT turned ON manually to connect to the phone - calls, messages, notifs - all good.
I bought the watch on 10.02.2022, so pretty new. Here is my experience with the battery life.
With the settings below my battery lasts around 43/6 hours - almost two days. That's the maximum for me.
LET - OFF - I haven't activated a mobile plan
GPS - OFF
Wifi - OFF
AOD -OFF
NFC - OFF
Brightness - around 40%,
Bedtime mode - scheduled from 00:00 to 07:30 + Power saving for the same period
All smart gestures (raise to wake, gestures for answering/dismissing calls and notifications, quick launch) - ON
Notifications with turning display on for Viber, Gmail, Slack(not always), Phone, Yahoo Mail, FB Messenger, Calendar, Clock, Phone Messages) - ON
Vibration - OFF
Samsung Health monitoring features - OFF (only steps counting )
I have several calls during the day, and a light to moderate number of notifications.
What's your opinion, guys? Am I doing well in terms of battery life, or is my battery underperforming for its capabilities?
P.S. This is my 3d charge cycle.