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Really! I mean REALLY....battery life again.....come on. its so subjective. While most posters moan about battery life on smart watches and mobiles etc I turn this point on its head and rather marvel at what such devices deliver considering they are powered by such small batteries.
The vast majority of mobile owners moan about battery and cannot accept the batteries limitations.
The watch is not even on sale yet but we can guarantee it will please a few and upset the majority .
If you want year long battery life one has to look at the conventional watch not the smart watches. Even better go automatic.
Too much amphetamines bro. Lol.
2 full days on Gear S now
I get 2 full days on my Gear S now, so am hoping the S3 does the same with Always On feature active. I do not mind charging daily though, not a big deal.
I get 2 - 3 days from my Gear S2 easily.
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I get 2 - 3 days from my Gear S2 easily.
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Hey guys...
I have yet to tweak anything on the watch and it is connected to my S7 Edge.
I get less than "a Business day" use out of the current out of the box set up. This is the NON-LTE version.
Things worth noting:
1. I do not use always on.
2. I have brightness set to 5 during the day and 2 at night.
3. GPS, Bluetooth, and location are on.
4. Have not altered the out of the box systems that monitor health yet.
5. I have added several apps, Flipboard, Gmail, Gcalendar, Uber, white light, google map, xenozu(you tube-player), calculator, remote camera, weather monitors 2 cities and several watch faces.
6. having it 100% charged at midnight/1am and no use other than sleeping with it on leaves the watch at 50% by 7am.
Anyone finding or knowing what tweaks and adjustments start saving on battery life...please let me know. I will report once I make a few changes as well.
I am sure with some simple changes, we will all be able to use the watch all day without charging it. Anyone that found any changes to their older S2 helped?
Dan
I have had the non LTE version Gear S3 since launch day. I can go through a full day (7 am to 11 pm) and the battery level is b/w 50-55%. I have been wearing the watch overnight to monitor my sleep the last several days. When I wake up around 7 am, the battery level is b/w 45-50%.
Settings:
Display: Always On activated
Bluetooth: On
Wifi: Automatic
NFC: On
Location: Off
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Hey guys...
I have yet to tweak anything on the watch and it is connected to my S7 Edge.
I get less than "a Business day" use out of the current out of the box set up. This is the NON-LTE version.
Things worth noting:
1. I do not use always on.
2. I have brightness set to 5 during the day and 2 at night.
3. GPS, Bluetooth, and location are on.
4. Have not altered the out of the box systems that monitor health yet.
5. I have added several apps, Flipboard, Gmail, Gcalendar, Uber, white light, google map, xenozu(you tube-player), calculator, remote camera, weather monitors 2 cities and several watch faces.
6. having it 100% charged at midnight/1am and no use other than sleeping with it on leaves the watch at 50% by 7am.
Anyone finding or knowing what tweaks and adjustments start saving on battery life...please let me know. I will report once I make a few changes as well.
I am sure with some simple changes, we will all be able to use the watch all day without charging it. Anyone that found any changes to their older S2 helped?
Dan
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Where did you get Gmail and Gcalendar for your watch?
My appologies
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Where did you get Gmail and Gcalendar for your watch?
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It is not Gmail or Gcalander...it is a Samsung or 3rd party app that syncs with my Google stuff. Again my apologies.
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It is not Gmail or Gcalander...it is a Samsung or 3rd party app that syncs with my Google stuff. Again my apologies.
Dan
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Had me excited there for a second....
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Had me excited there for a second....
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It will come sooner or later...
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I can get 1.5 to 2 days of battery life. This includes roaming around for 2-3 hours a day without my phone. I had to condition the battery a few times (draining it to 0) before it would last more than a day.
Settings:
Display: Always On activated
Bluetooth: On
Wifi: Off
NFC: Off
Location: Off
crispy1805 said:
I can get 1.5 to 2 days of battery life. This includes roaming around for 2-3 hours a day without my phone. I had to condition the battery a few times (draining it to 0) before it would last more than a day.
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Display: Always On activated
Bluetooth: On
Wifi: Off
NFC: Off
Location: Off
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i dont know what they did in the last update , but ive gone from almost 3 days to not even 1 day now on my frontier ... im not impressed at all, i missed my alarm this morning because of a flat fkn watch ....
I need to recondition the battery, but after turning off "diagnostic and usage reporting" I found that the battery life has increased from 1d12hr to 2d16hr. I feel like that had a huge impact.
Canadian S3 Frontier (SM-R760) on XAR. Have yet to use Samsung Pay, but it's on there now. See post #290 this thread for details on how to change Frontier CSC.
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I need to recondition the battery, but after turning off "diagnostic and usage reporting" I found that the battery life has increased from 1d12hr to 2d16hr. I feel like that had a huge impact.
Canadian S3 Frontier (SM-R760) on XAR. Have yet to use Samsung Pay, but it's on there now. See post #290 this thread for details on how to change Frontier CSC.
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how'd you turn that off?
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how'd you turn that off?
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On Gear S3
Settings>About>Scroll down
it's second from last
My personal experience with the problem of strong battery drain on Gear S3 classical vers after updated with tizen 3.0:
- I have read that this was a common problem and several posts regarding this issue
- I have factory reset the watch
- I have changed my band from curved to standard. I had one of the nice curved version, I have changed with a standard band that allow the hearth rate monitor to be completely on my wrist. Please note that I have a relatively small wrist for others this may have no significance.
I did this because in one post I read that Samsung has changed the AOD setting to be managed not anymore by Gyroscope but by the heart rate sensor
- I have designed with Gear watch Designer several faces. I have observed that the main issue was that the AOD was not reducing the brightness.
Then I have designed a face having very lo brightness in the AOD version (6.6% ratio)
Now comes the strange......
- I have tested the watch for few days with the same settings (no wifi, no location, brightness level 5, AOD on, BT on) and doing the same things starting from full (nominal) charge 100% in the early morning .......
RESULT
- The first hour or so the battery level decreases very quickly until 90% (approx rate 10% in 1 hr) but then (...... surprise surprise .....). the discharge decreases and stabilizes for the rest of the day at a rate approximately of 4% per hr.
After 12 hrs of use I have about 45% of battery remaining
I believe that the watch does not charges completely in real and that the 100% is only nominal
ever since the last update, i have been getting a solid 6-7 hours of use out of the battery
Can someone let me know some good settings for battery life on LTE watch? My battery don't even make it threw the day? Please?
I'm new to the watch (classic), so I'm running relatively stick settings.
I did set it to only turn on WiFi when Bluetooth connection lost. Screen timeout fifteen seconds. Location services off (figure if I'm driving and need it I'd rather use phone services).
I'm getting 48 hours between charges and dropping to around thirty percent.
Do you have a watch face that's running tons of stuff? Or basic one?
Talking on it a lot, or running music through it?
Basic watch face.
Check os version, update to tizen 3.0 has a lot of comments on battery issues. May just be you updated and are stuck with crap battery until they fix...
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Check os version, update to tizen 3.0 has a lot of comments on battery issues. May just be you updated and are stuck with crap battery until they fix...
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So basically 3.0 sucks? I just reset my gear whats the best settings shutting things off etc for LTE? I where my watch to work 100% charges when I leave and it runs out by noon if not sooner? Any help would be appreciated
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So basically 3.0 sucks? I just reset my gear whats the best settings shutting things off etc for LTE? I where my watch to work 100% charges when I leave and it runs out by noon if not sooner? Any help would be appreciated
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I just look at my software version and it says 2.3.2.3 see attached
Something else obviously tapping your watch battery.
First thing I'd do is set a plain basic face. Then test for a day, if battery issue fixed then you just had a poorly designed face. Some take heart rate every minute... Steps, weather update. Stuff you may not realize is even happening.
If that doesn't do it, check your notifications. Do tons on apps send notifications often? Maybe drop down to a min amount, then test for a day.
I'd definitely set lte "mobile networks" to auto, then WiFi completely off or only on when Bluetooth disconnects. WiFi isn't much benefit when you have lte, because there's not much you can do with the watch to eat up any data cap you might have, so could leave it off.
Heart rate check every hour, nothing shorter.
Screen time out fifteen seconds
Hopefully that sorts it.
Another consideration is you could have a lemon. How long have you had it? Might have an overheating issue, which could eat the battery. I've heard of a few, but pretty rare I think.
Good luck,
Ooo
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Something else obviously tapping your watch battery.
First thing I'd do is set a plain basic face. Then test for a day, if battery issue fixed then you just had a poorly designed face. Some take heart rate every minute... Steps, weather update. Stuff you may not realize is even happening.
If that doesn't do it, check your notifications. Do tons on apps send notifications often? Maybe drop down to a min amount, then test for a day.
I'd definitely set lte "mobile networks" to auto, then WiFi completely off or only on when Bluetooth disconnects. WiFi isn't much benefit when you have lte, because there's not much you can do with the watch to eat up any data cap you might have, so could leave it off.
Heart rate check every hour, nothing shorter.
Screen time out fifteen seconds
Hopefully that sorts it.
Another consideration is you could have a lemon. How long have you had it? Might have an overheating issue, which could eat the battery. I've heard of a few, but pretty rare I think.
Good luck,
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I just turned on my watch this morning and my battery is already in the 80's It's only been 1/2 hour now see attached is this normal. I have all exercise off 15 sec on display and Bluetooth and wifi off? I'm still under warranty but don't want a refurbished watch or someone else's mess? Any ideas? Maybe 1 to 2 text messages and voicemail and email is off
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I just turned on my watch this morning and my battery is already in the 80's It's only been 1/2 hour now see attached is this normal. I have all exercise off 15 sec on display and Bluetooth and wifi off? I'm still under warranty but don't want a refurbished watch or someone else's mess? Any ideas?
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This is my watch face which I feel is basic?
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This is my watch face which I feel is basic?
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Hello, suggest resetting it. Use Blue Stealth watch face as it had very little white light which uses a lot of power.
Also. When it is disconnected from bluetooth and the LTE radio is on this will use much more battery. Keep all other settings as you have them. Samsung Health "nudges" also use battery so if you dont need them, turn those off too.
See if this helps too extend the battery life. If not then you truly may have a lemon.
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Set up is everything. I use a black and white face with color only for a second hand. I turn off stuff I don't need like NFC and BT and wifi (don't need if LTE). I turned off Location because it doesn't seem to effect GPS when I'm walking. Not sure why yet. I dont use alot of wizz bang apps like a map, news alerts, or fancy running app. Just SHealth and there are things that the phone is just better for, like news. I get about 36-48 hours depending on if I text alot OR IF I'M OUT OF CELL RANGE. You'll burn alot of battery if the watch is looking for a tower. I'm working on how to manage that better. Hope that helps.
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Hello, suggest resetting it. Use Blue Stealth watch face as it had very little white light which uses a lot of power.
Also. When it is disconnected from bluetooth and the LTE radio is on this will use much more battery. Keep all other settings as you have them. Samsung Health "nudges" also use battery so if you dont need them, turn those off too.
See if this helps too extend the battery life. If not then you truly may have a lemon.
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Thanks, what or where do I get the blue stealth faces at?
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Thanks, what or where do I get the blue stealth faces at?
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Also would it be a good Idea to run the battery out and then recharge it?
Also is there a DIY for replacing the bezel? Mine is a little scuffed
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Thanks, what or where do I get the blue stealth faces at?
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So I started my phone on LTE @ 4am and just now got off work at 3:40pm and I'm at 48% battery could someone tell me if that seems about right or good?
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So I started my phone on LTE @ 4am and just now got off work at 3:40pm and I'm at 48% battery could someone tell me if that seems about right or good?
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That is very good for it being connect to LTE almost all day!
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Thanks, what or where do I get the blue stealth faces at?
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You can search in the Gear Apps and get it ...
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***Update*** I have everything off and using blue stealth. Turned on my gear 100% charge the percentage dropped to 33% From 4am to 5am I reset my gear and now the battery is climbing and it's now at 8:51am at 47%? Wtf? I'm going to try to run the battery down until it shuts off today and recharge for tomorrow if same thing then it's off to Samsung she goes..
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***Update*** I have everything off and using blue stealth. Turned on my gear 100% charge the percentage dropped to 33% From 4am to 5am I reset my gear and now the battery is climbing and it's now at 8:51am at 47%? Wtf? I'm going to try to run the battery down until it shuts off today and recharge for tomorrow if same thing then it's off to Samsung she goes..
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Hey, yeah that sounds really bad.. I have the Gear S2, Gear S3 Classic (Both LTE) and I get a full day on the 2 and a little more that that on the 3...sounds like th you may have a bad battery ...good luck with getting it swapped out
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***Update*** I have everything off and using blue stealth. Turned on my gear 100% charge the percentage dropped to 33% From 4am to 5am I reset my gear and now the battery is climbing and it's now at 8:51am at 47%? Wtf? I'm going to try to run the battery down until it shuts off today and recharge for tomorrow if same thing then it's off to Samsung she goes..
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I had the exact same problem with my watch, and I was never able to figure it out. I tried factory resetting it, booting it up in recovery mode, uninstalling all 3rd party apps, letting it drain completely and recharging it, etc., but nothing seemed to affect the battery drain. The weird thing is the watch would last 3 days on a charge even though it would drain quickly at first. It would go down to 55% within the first couple of hours, rise back up to 60-70%, and then drain slowly for the next 2 days. The fact that the battery lasted 3 days was great, but the initial drain bugged me so much that I sold the watch.
I read a post on the official Samsung forum where a guy said he narrowed his battery drain problem down to a bug in the Weather app. He claims the GPS antenna continuously searches for the location, even when Location Services are turned off. His solution is to never update the Weather app. Since I don't have the watch anymore, I have no way to verify it.
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...board-id/wearabletech/thread-id/10096/page/28
Hi Guys,
I bought a Gear S3, it was preowned, so I fear that there might be some issues with its battery, including having a faulty battery completely. Can you please guide me/confirm the following battery behaviors to be true on your Gears OR do I in fact have a bad watch and it needs to be returned?
1. When watch is off the cradle, not connected to the phone (disconnected through the Gear app), but NOT in Airplane mode, it goes from 100% battery to 0 and dead within 24 hours. Normal?
2. 100% charge, wrist gesture on, Samsung pay, no LTE, just bluetooth, used for about 12 hours, message notifications, maybe 3 - 4 hours of AOD. The day ends with about 50% charge. Normal?
3. Off the cradle, in Airplane mode, started with 100% battery, not used for 12 hours, just on the desk, ~95% battery left. Normal?
4. Slightly off topic question: When a Chromecast video is playing, watch detects it, knows the title of the video, but Play/Pause, Skip doesn't work. Normal?
Appreciate your prompt input, I need to open an RMA before the end of this week. Thank you!
Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Your watch is ok man. Enjoy it
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Haha thanks Johnny! So those are all normal scenarios in your experience?
Also, any comment the controlling the Chromecast issue? ?
This is normal
I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thank you friend for chiming in with your experience! Can you test/confirm the Chromecast issue I talked about?
Also, very interested to hear others share their battery experiences on comment on whether my watch has a possible battery flaw?
Thank you in advance!
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I have a Gear S3 Classic with Verizon LTE. I have AOD on (Display set to 6), and lots of notifications via email and text, but almost no phone call). I uses about 50% to 60% of battery from 7am to 9pm.
AOD is the battery killer. Also Setting uses a lot of power (install app, playing with watchface, etc.). Using custom watchface (those does not dim much in AOD mode) can suck up a lot of power.
Not sure why people really care about whether it lasts 2 days or 3 days per charge. The normal use scenario is to charge your phone and watch every night.
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The chromcast issue is probably normal also. Remember the Gear S3 watch is running Tizen not Android. So incompatibility is expected. I am surprised you actually get notification on Chromcast. So Samsung did the good 50% job.
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Thanks for your response bud... Can you test on your side and confirm for me?
Since the Galaxy Watch 4 is not a champion when it comes to battery life, I'm sure we're many wanting at least 2 days battery life WITHOUT disabling all the features that made us bought the GW4 at the first place.
I can easily achieve 2 days battery life AOD Off, Wifi Off. All the other features is turned on.
I was wondering if turning on AOD and disabling Raise Wrist to wake would still grant me 2 days battery life since I heard that apparently RWTW consume a pretty good amount of battery every time we tilt our wrist.
How about you guys?
AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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With that configuration how long does the watch stand approximately? Do you track sleep at night and with a workout routine does the watch still have battery left until the morning?
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AOD off is a dealbreaker for me. Any watch that doesn't have real and usable AOD, I would not buy. So I would never turn off AOD (unless I was caught somewhere with a low battery condition). I leave raise to wake also on. I know these will suck battery, but that is how I insist on using the watch. To conserve other power, I turn off WiFi and NFC. Not much else I can do.
i don't really care about battery life that much, as long as I can get through a typical day. Charging once a day is fine with me. I have been doing it for many years with the Moto 360 1, Moto 360 2, and S3. I just hope it does wear out the battery too soon (as in, diminished capacity).
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case) - and I'll take the extra battery life with it off any day over any real or perceived inconvenience of turning your wrist to see the time.
I haven't yet been able to fully determine how well it works on the GW4, but on the Gear S3 it was perfectly fine, so I am expecting it to be at least as good.
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I must confess I've never really understood the need for AOD as long as the wrist gesture to wake works properly (which admittedly hasn't always been the case)
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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In my case, I often look at my watch at times I don't want to perform an obvious gesture, like in a meeting, or in front of someone. I want to be able to look at the screen anytime, in any circumstance, like a "real" watch.
Also, just vanity, but.... I went to all the expense and fuss to get a classic-looking watch- round, silver, pretty, matching band, fancy classic watch face, to look like a "real" watch, and "real" watches have an always-on display. I have fooled many, many people over the many years, who had no idea I was wearing a smart watch.
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That's fair enough.
AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
Since my daily routine include a workout session and since I use sleep tracking, I am afraid that my daily routine can't be compatibile with AOD. It's a annoying not to be able to use the watch to full capacity and having to make choice between fancy look and fitness.
Hope they will be able to improve battery life with updates...
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AOD is a sure great feature but it has a pretty huge impact on the battery as opposed to what some saying that it only consume few % of battery. In my testing it consumed 20% every 6 hours, and i could definitely feel the difference AOD on and AOD off.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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It will vary a LOT depending on which watch face. Probably why most faces have light indicators on a dark background. Also, some faces have a much "simpler" mode when in dim/inactive mode. But yes, it will consume a lot of battery compared to AOD off, unless the dim/inactive mode is very simple and dim. But if it is too simple/dim, it might not even worth having AOD on.
Watchmaker has a feature which shows how many pixels are on with each face, both in active and standby mode. Can be useful. Plus you can edit the face to turn whatever part of the face you want off in dim/standby mode to help save power. The face I am using now, I turned off the logo, always, and the second hand and some of the background off in standby/dim mode.
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Thanks for the tips!
Hi all,
Just wanted to check...if you have location services switched on on this device. I tried switching it off and experienced a remarkable improvement in the battery life. Am I missing something without location services on?
According to the user guide, the Galaxy Watch 4 draws the location from your phone when this is connected to it via BT, except for Samsung Health. What kind of improvement did you see? My watch drains around 2% per hour during the day with normal use and 10% over night. This is with everything on, apart from AOD and with Location on Improved Accuracy.
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According to the user guide, the Galaxy Watch 4 draws the location from your phone when this is connected to it via BT, except for Samsung Health. What kind of improvement did you see? My watch drains around 2% per hour during the day with normal use and 10% over night. This is with everything on, apart from AOD and with Location on Improved Accuracy.
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With location on, I would start the day with 100% and 6 hours in to the day I would have lost around 25%. With location off and under the same conditions, I would have lost around 16%. That's about 9% save over 6 hours. In both these situations, I'm assuming the same level of activity.
Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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I'm not sure why the watch would request for location from the phone when there is an inbuilt GPS receiver. But, yes, long story short, without the location enabled, the battery life is great.
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I'm not sure why the watch would request for location from the phone when there is an inbuilt GPS receiver.
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I assume because it is a lot less "expensive" to ask the phone than to exert a lot of battery to find out on its own.
crxssi said:
Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on). I am not sure why a watch needs location, other than for weather or maybe exercise tracking without the phone? And without it, it should just use your home city or last location, anyway. And I don't use exercise tracking and don't have Samsung Health installed. For it to use much battery, either it would have to be requesting location through BT regularly, and I am not sure why it would need to, or it would be without a BT connection and have to figure it out on its own. In my case, the watch is always connected via BT.
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I'm getting great battery life with location turned on - and IMHO turning location off on the Galaxy Watch 4 kinda negates its main advantages over the Galaxy Watch (Google Maps, etc.).
If battery life is your overriding priority, and you don't care about the health and location-based features of the GW4, I would suggest that you buy an original Galaxy Watch, at a fraction of the price, and up to 2x the battery life.
jtOttawa said:
I'm getting great battery life with location turned on - and IMHO turning location off on the Galaxy Watch 4 kinda negates its main advantages over the Galaxy Watch (Google Maps, etc.).
If battery life is your overriding priority, and you don't care about the health and location-based features of the GW4, I would suggest that you buy an original Galaxy Watch, at a fraction of the price, and up to 2x the battery life.
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I already have a S3 classic (still sitting on the desk). And it did suit me fine for years, except the battery is half worn-out now. Plus, it had no search capability, which is the killer feature I wanted in the GW4 (and doesn't really have it quite yet). I don't use the exercise/health or mapping. I use it mostly for time, calendar, notifications, weather, AOD, stopwatch, and occasional texting. Most of the other features are a waste on me, that is true. Of course, each person will have a set of features important to him/her; so it is nice to have lots of features to reach a broader customer base.
It is a bit annoying that the watch feels a bit like a beta, but I did expect that going into it (being the first WearOS 3 device, and buying it the moment it was released). But with regular updates, I am sure it will get worked out.
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I already have a GW3 classic (still sitting on the desk). And it did suit me fine for years, except the battery is half worn-out now. Plus, it had no search capability, which is the killer feature I wanted in the GW4 (and doesn't really have it quite yet). I don't use the exercise/health or mapping. I use it mostly for time, calendar, notifications, weather, AOD, stopwatch, and occasional texting. Most of the other features are a waste on me, that is true. Of course, each person will have a set of features important to him/her; so it is nice to have lots of features to reach a broader customer base.
It is a bit annoying that the watch feels a bit like a beta, but I did expect that going into it (being the first WearOS 3 device, and buying it the moment it was released). But with regular updates, I am sure it will get worked out.
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Fair enough. I passed on the Galaxy Watch as it didn't offer me any significant advantages over my Gear S3s (one of which I still have) and the GW3 seemed like a downgrade from the Galaxy Watch given the smaller battery (plus we didn't ever get the much-vaunted BP and ECG here in Canada - and still don't have it officially for the GW4).
BTW, I replaced the battery myself in both of my Gear S3s - you can order Samsung originals online, and installation is easy if you're careful and mechanically inclined. Not sure if that is the case for the GW3 and GW4, but something to keep in mind should you ever decide you'd like to extend the life of your watch.
jtOttawa said:
Fair enough. I passed on the Galaxy Watch as it didn't offer me any significant advantages over my Gear S3s (one of which I still have) and the GW3 seemed like a downgrade from the Galaxy Watch given the smaller battery (plus we didn't ever get the much-vaunted BP and ECG here in Canada - and still don't have it officially for the GW4).
BTW, I replaced the battery myself in both of my Gear S3s - you can order Samsung originals online, and installation is easy if you're careful and mechanically inclined. Not sure if that is the case for the GW3 and GW4, but something to keep in mind should you ever decide you'd like to extend the life of your watch.
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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Agreed! Silver with the black bezel was the only option - much preferred (and still prefer) the look of the all-black S3. Plus, the battery life on the S3 was just fine as far as I was concerned - and with the new battery, I'm getting 3+ days again.
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Sorry, I accidentally said GW3 when I meant S3. I corrected my posting, above. Like you, I passed on the Galaxy Watch (until 4) for the exact same reasons. Plus, I didn't like the horrible black bezel on the silver Classic (what was that about?)
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BTW, here's the link if you ever want to order original Samsung parts for your S3 (and I see they are just starting to get parts for the GW4): https://rounded.com/?subcats=Y&pcod...erformed=Y&q=gear+s3&dispatch=products.search
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Agreed! Silver with the black bezel was the only option - much preferred (and still prefer) the look of the all-black S3.
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I wanted all silver, no black
jtOttawa said:
BTW, here's the link if you ever want to order original Samsung parts for your S3 (and I see they are just starting to get parts for the GW4): https://rounded.com/?subcats=Y&pcod...erformed=Y&q=gear+s3&dispatch=products.search
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amirage said:
With location on, I would start the day with 100% and 6 hours in to the day I would have lost around 25%. With location off and under the same conditions, I would have lost around 16%. That's about 9% save over 6 hours. In both these situations, I'm assuming the same level of activity.
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Can you clarify if you have LTE or non-LTE version of watch? Do you have "improve accuaracy" on? I have non-LTE Classic 46mm and I have location services on but improve accuracy off. I'm getting very good battery life and have never experienced loosing 25% in 6 hours. I'm getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life. What face are you using and is there something on your face which would be using location services? What apps do you have allowed in permissions? To determine this go into location in settings (on watch), then permissions, then allowed.
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Interesting. I will try with location turned off, myself (it was on).
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I notice no change in battery life between location on (with improve accuracy OFF) and with location off. Still around 25% over 9 hours (46mm non-LTE classic, AOD on, health stuff off, WiFi off, very sparce notifications, Watchmaker face).
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Can you clarify if you have LTE or non-LTE version of watch? Do you have "improve accuaracy" on? I have non-LTE Classic 46mm and I have location services on but improve accuracy off. I'm getting very good battery life and have never experienced loosing 25% in 6 hours. I'm getting about 2 1/2 days of battery life. What face are you using and is there something on your face which would be using location services? What apps do you have allowed in permissions? To determine this go into location in settings (on watch), then permissions, then allowed.
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I'm on non-LTE version and improve accuracy is switched off. I have the activity watch face which shows the steps counter, weather, heart rate etc. So, yes, health services are on which is one of the main reasons I got this watch. Notifications are also on for apps that I have enabled. I have limited location usage on almost all apps...Anyways, I'm still playing with the watch a lot so let's see once everything settles down...BTW on the update prior to the DUJA...I believe DUJA has a lot of battery improvements.
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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It isn't like you need to speculate. Just turn it on and see. AOD will drain the battery more than most anything else you can do with a non-LTE watch. It will easily will cut run time in at least half (when using a robust watchface). And since you will have to charge more often, it will also wear out the battery much more quickly (hopefully replacing the battery in the GW4/4C will not be a nightmare). But it is also awesome (and a "must" for me).
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It isn't like you need to speculate. Just turn it on and see. AOD will drain the battery more than most anything else you can do with a non-LTE watch. It will easily will cut run time in at least half (when using a robust watchface). And since you will have to charge more often, it will also wear out the battery much more quickly (hopefully replacing the battery in the GW4/4C will not be a nightmare). But it is also awesome (and a "must" for me).
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I think I'll pass on the AOD.
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I'm on non-LTE version and improve accuracy is switched off. I have the activity watch face which shows the steps counter, weather, heart rate etc. So, yes, health services are on which is one of the main reasons I got this watch. Notifications are also on for apps that I have enabled. I have limited location usage on almost all apps...Anyways, I'm still playing with the watch a lot so let's see once everything settles down...BTW on the update prior to the DUJA...I believe DUJA has a lot of battery improvements.
On a different note, I'm pondering whether to have AOD on or not...not sure how much of a battery impact will that have.
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It was not health services I was concerned with. Not sure how weather on face gets its information. I can't imagine it would use location from your watch but I don't know...