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Phone turns off after charger pull

hi, i have an inspire 4G bought off ebay. the phone was used for a month and was kept inside the box for about 6 months. now, i started using it again and after 3 weeks, the phone is now switching off immediately after removing it from the charger.
i took it to HTC store, and they say it is a mother board issue. which i doubt as the phone is workin well when connected to the charger. a battery change also did not help.
any suggestions? please help

Sounds like a bad battery. Battery may be reporting charged but may not be putting out the required voltage.

Agoattamer said:
Sounds like a bad battery. Battery may be reporting charged but may not be putting out the required voltage.
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well, the HTC guy reportedly used a different battery. i live in India. anything can happen here. ANYTHING. he said it is a motherboard issue and it would cost $200 to fix it since the phone is not having any warranty.
but my question is, could it actually be a motherboard issue? i don't have issues using the phone hooked on to the charger.

You can pick up a new 3rd party battery very cheap from the net. I would try that first. Yes it could be the motherboard as anything is possible in India.

Agoattamer said:
You can pick up a new 3rd party battery very cheap from the net. I would try that first. Yes it could be the motherboard as anything is possible in India.
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Thank you for the reply buddy. I will try that
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Possible Phone Brickage w/ Battery Replacement

Okay, not sure if this is even possible to do but I'm hoping the XDA'ers might be able to assist. I purchased a new battery for my Nexus S. I plugged the bad-boy in and try turning it on and nothing. I plug it into the wall and try turning it on-- nothing. I try putting the old battery back in.........nothing.....
I then noticed the new battery I purchased is a 1440 mAh and the old battery is 1500 mAh. This is probably something I should have checked before I bought it, and something that now makes me feel like a total idiot. What I'm wondering is could this have a hand in bricking my phone? Is there any way of fixing it? Luckily I have a Nexus 4 on the way (eventually ¬.¬) but I was planning on giving the Nexus S to my girlfriend.
Thanks in advance, guys.

No. This is totally tolerable. +-5% is the least that might cause trouble. Well within tolerances. Charge overnight and if no good then return for replacement.
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whodisname said:
No. This is totally tolerable. +-5% is the least that might cause trouble. Well within tolerances. Charge overnight and if no good then return for replacement.
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Thanks for the quick reply. The issue is that even the old battery which was at ~75% life isn't even working, even while plugged in.

Can't help much, but just so you can be at ease, mah stands for milli-amp hours, and is a measure of capacity, not power put forth. You want to match the voltage to prevent damage.

At least I've got a Nexus 4 on the way. It just sucks that I can't give this Nexus S to my girlfriend, she's stuck with an iPhone 3G =/

As an update, I had it plugged in overnight and still nothing. I had the original battery in.

WhenBearsReign said:
As an update, I had it plugged in overnight and still nothing. I had the original battery in.
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I'm just thinking you shorted it. It seems to be happening a lot lately in the Nexus S forums when people pull their battery. Haven't seen anyone able to fix it themselves, they usually send it for repair to Samsung. :/

polobunny said:
I'm just thinking you shorted it. It seems to be happening a lot lately in the Nexus S forums when people pull their battery. Haven't seen anyone able to fix it themselves, they usually send it for repair to Samsung. :/
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That's unfortunate because mine is out of warranty now. Thanks for the help, hopefully I can dispute it with Amazon and at least get the cost of the battery back.

WhenBearsReign said:
That's unfortunate because mine is out of warranty now. Thanks for the help, hopefully I can dispute it with Amazon and at least get the cost of the battery back.
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Get in touch with Samsung or even your phone company. You could be surprised at what they have to offer. I've heard of some people getting absolutely free fixing from Samsung (albeit not specifically the Nexus S) when out of warranty.

[Q] Bricked! Won't charge and com doesn't recognize. Help!

Hey guys
I rooted and flashed paranoid android of my tab and it was working fine. Couple of weeks later I left it to charge overnight not realizing the charger is spoilt, hence, didn't charge my tab. Battery drained completely and i couldn't get it started again. Tried leaving it to discharge overnight and plugging in a new charger to charge overnight and still nothing. It was still under warranty so I sent to to samsung and guess what? They told me it's been rooted and hence the warranty is void and they told me they need to replace the motherboard which costs almost $300. FML. Took it back and now I have a really fancy paperweight.
Was wondering if you guys know anything I can do to get it back to life? Or at least unroot it so I can send it back for repairs?
Any help is greatly appreciated.

More likely a battery issue. Batteries should never be fully discharged or risk battery damage.
Although the kernel does (supposed to) limit the charging rate, I have read others with Samsung devices manage to "kick-start" the battery back to life using a `after market ` 2 amp AC battery charger. Leave it on overnight, or at least for an hour or two before trying to power on.
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UpInTheAir said:
More likely a battery issue. Batteries should never be fully discharged or risk battery damage.
Although the kernel does (supposed to) limit the charging rate, I have read others with Samsung devices manage to "kick-start" the battery back to life using a `after market ` 2 amp AC battery charger. Leave it on overnight, or at least for an hour or two before trying to power on.
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Thanks for the reply!
However I did buy another 2amp AC charger and also left it overnight to charge but still got nothing. Any other suggestions? Could it be a motherboard issue? (Samsung told me it's a motherboard issue - they must have found that out somehow right?)

taufiq0177 said:
Thanks for the reply!
However I did buy another 2amp AC charger and also left it overnight to charge but still got nothing. Any other suggestions? Could it be a motherboard issue? (Samsung told me it's a motherboard issue - they must have found that out somehow right?)
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Seems very strange that depleting the battery completely would have caused a motherboard issue,.... but if Samsung say so, it must be.....
If you could get hold of a new battery and replace it yourself, the cost could be minimised (if it is a battery problem). But if it is the motherboard, you could just be waisting more of your money.
If there is no way to power the device on, yes, it is just an expensive paper weight. The cost of repair may not be worth it, Sorry.
Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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UpInTheAir said:
Seems very strange that depleting the battery completely would have caused a motherboard issue,.... but if Samsung say so, it must be.....
If you could get hold of a new battery and replace it yourself, the cost could be minimised (if it is a battery problem). But if it is the motherboard, you could just be waisting more of your money.
If there is no way to power the device on, yes, it is just an expensive paper weight. The cost of repair may not be worth it, Sorry.
Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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That's the part that puzzles me as well. If there is no way for me to power on and check the status of the device, how did Samsung manage to find out that I rooted the device? There are a few questions that have come to mind because of this:
1) Are they trying to pull a fast one on me?
2) If they are able to check my root status, means the battery can still be used. If so, how?? I just wanna boot up to unroot then send back to Samsung before my warranty ends on 11 May!!
But if nothing works then I'll be forced to buy a new phone :|
Btw thanks for the reply. Appreciate it.

They knew cause they managed to fixed your device, saw it rooted, break it again and send u back (for some extra money extortion i guess), i doubt unroot and send it back will help cause they remember, unless u take it to another country
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And the other guy know nothing, dont listen to him. They have jtag and serial console to talk with devices at basic level ( without turning the device on)
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long6688 said:
They knew cause they managed to fixed your device, saw it rooted, break it again and send u back (for some extra money extortion i guess), i doubt unroot and send it back will help cause they remember, unless u take it to another country
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Your opinion is again fact? For conspiracies -> Send in the X-Files............. :silly:
long6688 said:
[/COLOR]And the other guy know nothing, dont listen to him. They have jtag and serial console to talk with devices at basic level ( without turning the device on)
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Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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Why are you being antagonistic AGAIN? My statement was a question of which you answered . Please explain where I say I know everything or pretend to know nothing? BTW I'm still waiting on your ROM to be released HA
The "battery issue" is quite plausible, so may still be the cause.

Nexus 5 stuck in boot loop, probably power button problem, need some help

Today I was using my Nexus 5, I was on a call and suddenly it rebooted and got stuck in a boot loop then after. It would go till the Google logo or till the 4 dots animation and then keep rebooting itself again and again. I tried going into the recovery but it reboots itself within a second of entering into recovery.
At first I thought it was because of flashing Android L onto my phone, but I had done that several months ago and since it was working fine until today I was suspicious.
After some time I was finally able to turn on my phone but soon I found the probable cause of the problem. The power button wasn't functioning properly. Whenever I would lock my phone the screen would turn ON and OFF a couple of times and sometimes even the Power Off Dialog would appear out of nowhere. I'm guessing the power button is automatically being pressed by itself and is causing all these problems.
I bought my phone in Australia so I don't have the warranty covered here in India. I called LG, they told me the power button itself cannot be repaired, they have to replace the entire board of the phone and it would cost me around 13000 INR (210$)!!! I think the cost is too much for a power button problem.
Another solution would be to send it overseas to Australia where I bought it, but a couple of months ago I had also cracked the outer glass of the camera so I'm worried if it is eligible for replacement since it has some physical damage.
So can anyone help me here? Should I get the power button repaired by some local shop instead of LG? If I do that then maybe I'll even void my Australian warranty and lose my chances of getting it replaced overseas. Or should I just send it and get it replaced?
If anyone else has faced such problem then could you please give any advice to me. Thanks!

I would get the power button replaced locally. If your camera is cracked the warranty is probably voided anyway.
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I have the exact same issue , please HELP !!!
The same thing happened , to me recently 2 days ago. Happened after lollipop , even the lg service center says many people have it after installing lollipop. He says the only thing he can do is replace the motherboard for a tiny power button issue. Cost wise 12500 rs !!!
Absolutely ridiculous , really felt sad.
Did you get it repaired ?
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The same thing happened , to me recently 2 days ago. Happened after lollipop , even the lg service center says many people have it after installing lollipop. He says the only thing he can do is replace the motherboard for a tiny power button issue. Cost wise 12500 rs !!!
Absolutely ridiculous , really felt sad.
Did you get it repaired ?

Exact Same issue
bigbiceps said:
The same thing happened , to me recently 2 days ago. Happened after lollipop , even the lg service center says many people have it after installing lollipop. He says the only thing he can do is replace the motherboard for a tiny power button issue. Cost wise 12500 rs !!!
Absolutely ridiculous , really felt sad.
Did you get it repaired ?
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The same thing happened , to me recently 2 days ago. Happened after lollipop , even the lg service center says many people have it after installing lollipop. He says the only thing he can do is replace the motherboard for a tiny power button issue. Cost wise 12500 rs !!!
Absolutely ridiculous , really felt sad.
Did you get it repaired ?
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How do I resolve this? I am facing the exact same issue. The phone is out of warranty period. :crying::crying:
thanks in advance!

If your phone is still in warranty, consider contacting LG Care in Australia. At least they will give you a free replacement.
Was your phone rooted/bootloader unlocked?

Same issue
dioxide95 said:
If your phone is still in warranty, consider contacting LG Care in Australia. At least they will give you a free replacement.
Was your phone rooted/bootloader unlocked?
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I am based out of Mumbai , India. My phone was bought from US. The phone is out of warranty.

Same problem as I wrote here:
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My phone doesn't even boot, it reboots or shutdown while the OS is loading.
I've managed to start the phone once by hitting it :silly: and got the pictures by USB. After that I selected factory reset in order to erase all my stuff. The phone still doesn't boot after I moved it from the table that time.
I did not even rooted my N5, by the moment it has Android 5.0.1 (the first update after it got Lollipop).
It just lasted 11 months. Before the N5 I had the N4 and had similar issues, so I wont buy LG anymore.
Someone with a solution? Can I buy a replacement or something?
Thanks!
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I'm so sorry. It is probably a hardware problem. Would still recommend contacting LG. Because if you've tried all that is suggested on this thread and it still doesn't work, there's little chance that a miracle will happen.

mithilpshah said:
How do I resolve this? I am facing the exact same issue. The phone is out of warranty period. :crying::crying:
thanks in advance!
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Fret not , my friend.
The estimate LG gave me was 13000 to replace the motherboard for a faulty power button.
Took my phone to a local trusted and reliable mobile repair shop.
He fixed it for 250 rs, so yes that's definitely doable!
The problem is theres ICs and **** right beneath the power button , so thats a risk you take when replacing power button.
Too much solder heat will fry the ICs right under where the power button attaches.
My repair guy was totally cool with it.
Im selling my N5 , getting a note 4 .
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dioxide95 said:
I'm so sorry. It is probably a hardware problem. Would still recommend contacting LG. Because if you've tried all that is suggested on this thread and it still doesn't work, there's little chance that a miracle will happen.
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Do not go to LG , theyll give you a non practical quotation.
Take it to a local repair shop guy who handles a lot of phones with tons of experience under the hood.

bigbiceps said:
Fret not , my friend.
The estimate LG gave me was 13000 to replace the motherboard for a faulty power button.
Took my phone to a local trusted and reliable mobile repair shop.
He fixed it for 250 rs, so yes that's definitely doable!
The problem is theres ICs and **** right beneath the power button , so thats a risk you take when replacing power button.
Too much solder heat will fry the ICs right under where the power button attaches.
My repair guy was totally cool with it.
Im selling my N5 , getting a note 4 .
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Do not go to LG , theyll give you a non practical quotation.
Take it to a local repair shop guy who handles a lot of phones with tons of experience under the hood.
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Hi bigbiceps,
i am also vicitim of the same problem from NEXUS 5, i got quote of Rs. 12K for fixing the issue in LG service center, marathalli. i dont want to spend 12k for that.
can you please tell me the address of the local shop in bangalore where you got your NEXUS 5 repaired.
Since you already tried, i will also do at the same local service shop, your help is much appreciated.

my phone doesn't work​

AhmedKushlaf said:
my phone doesn't work​
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Then fix it
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Shop address please
hi dude,
am too facing the same issue. Can you give me that shop address. It will be more helpful.
Thanks,
Sam

AhmedKushlaf said:
my phone doesn't work​
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Might as well buy another phone

let me know the address of repair shop bigbiceps guru . please inbox me
bigbiceps said:
Fret not , my friend.
The estimate LG gave me was 13000 to replace the motherboard for a faulty power button.
Took my phone to a local trusted and reliable mobile repair shop.
He fixed it for 250 rs, so yes that's definitely doable!
The problem is theres ICs and **** right beneath the power button , so thats a risk you take when replacing power button.
Too much solder heat will fry the ICs right under where the power button attaches.
My repair guy was totally cool with it.
Im selling my N5 , getting a note 4 .
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Do not go to LG , theyll give you a non practical quotation.
Take it to a local repair shop guy who handles a lot of phones with tons of experience under the hood.
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Please bigbiceps let me know the address so that I get my phone repaired. I am from Bangalore too

Same problem here as well, did u find any solution to this problem?? Plz share
ramso1912 said:
Hi bigbiceps,
i am also vicitim of the same problem from NEXUS 5, i got quote of Rs. 12K for fixing the issue in LG service center, marathalli. i dont want to spend 12k for that.
can you please tell me the address of the local shop in bangalore where you got your NEXUS 5 repaired.
Since you already tried, i will also do at the same local service shop, your help is much appreciated.
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Facing the exact same problem, contacted Google as well as lg, but no cheap solution they said 11k for the motherboard, plz help if u find any good local shop to fix the issue in bangalore

Happened to me and quite a few friends also... Weird thing is all of our phones started working again after leaving them for a few days. Just wait and see. The sad fact is that the N5 is just a terrible phone full of bugs.

bigbiceps said:
Fret not , my friend.
The estimate LG gave me was 13000 to replace the motherboard for a faulty power button.
Took my phone to a local trusted and reliable mobile repair shop.
He fixed it for 250 rs, so yes that's definitely doable!
The problem is theres ICs and **** right beneath the power button , so thats a risk you take when replacing power button.
Too much solder heat will fry the ICs right under where the power button attaches.
My repair guy was totally cool with it.
Im selling my N5 , getting a note 4 .
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Do not go to LG , theyll give you a non practical quotation.
Take it to a local repair shop guy who handles a lot of phones with tons of experience under the hood.
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hi brother iam also facing same problem can u tell me which power button local shop guy used for replaced on ur phone. i mean it necessary to use lg made power button or any other power button can u use in nexus 5. plz bro do reply

You seem to be from Bangalore, can you provide me the location of the local store where you got this done ? Thanks in advance!

Battery temperature is too low to charge

Hello guys, so my friend has a new OP6, he was charging his phone util it get stucks at 82%, he rebooted the phone and then it was 50%. He turned it off and plugged it and the screen showed battery temperature is too low to charge.
We tried my charger on his phone same thing, tried to check with and app the battery temperature and it was detected as -40°C so i guess it's the sensor
We cleared the cache and even factory reset but nothing, always stuck at 50% and as you can guess it will soon die.
Any other option is welcome, here are some pics for you to check. We saw on other forums that this problem occured on other Oneplus phones like 3 and 3t but no solution yet

I've seen this happen to people who dropped their Oneplus 3. The battery temperature sensor gets damaged.

He didn't drop it or any damage occured, it just came from nowhere, so unfortunate. I guess he will have to contact amazon for the warranty or does he contact Oneplus without passing by amazon??

Up!!

If the OP6 has been buyed via Amazon, then use the warranty of Amazon.

did you ever solved this issue?
I have the same issue but my phone didn't fall and I've tried everything, resetting wiping, rooting.
I opened it up and even tried a different battery and I also tried different chargers and leaving it off for 24 hrs.
All with no luck can anyone please help ?

Why did you even open it, you shouldn't have tried that, because it's a defected sensor. my friend got his phone replaced by the warranty without questions asked, but in your case i don't know if they will replace it or no

MICHAEL(SMHOS.ORG) said:
Make sure u are not over clocking the phone2
.try downloading kernels and under clock it
3.do not use it too much for high end games,mainly heat up phones
4.when charging shut it down.it works:laugh:
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Sorry but you don t know what you're talking about

my phone had water damage so unfortunately it was out of warranty already.
I let it dry for a day but the screen didn't even come on, after i opened it and cleaned all the connectors it worked and the charging even worked but jut for 1 day.. after that i always got this error, everything else works fine.
i'm thinking maybe i can just buy one of those external powerbank cases or so..

Shad00w said:
my phone had water damage so unfortunately it was out of warranty already.
I let it dry for a day but the screen didn't even come on, after i opened it and cleaned all the connectors it worked and the charging even worked but jut for 1 day.. after that i always got this error, everything else works fine.
i'm thinking maybe i can just buy one of those external powerbank cases or so..
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If you have the error like the pics i chared, it wont work, if you install Ampere app, you will see that it shows a very low temperature like -30 or so, so the sensor is definetly out of service, I don't know if the sensor is on the battery(you said you put another one and i didn't work out) so i dont thinks it's there, try changing the doughter board, or in the worst case it's on the motherboard.

yes i saw a picture of the oneplus 3 somewhere with the temp sensor on the motherboard but the oneplus 6 has almost all of its ic's under heat shielding that you cant remove afaik, (they did remove it on the ifixit totorial though.
Furthermore i found a way to mock the battery tempeture sensor with adb but strangely enough you still cant charge it when you set the temp to 20 or so degrees c.
This is the page if you wnt to try it out https://www.intellectsoft.net/blog/android-shell-part-1-mocking-battery-status/
I dont even think root is required
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Bro chinaroad is the ROM or battery.
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Or try another charger and check bri:silly:
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Michael, why are you so certain its not the board ??

Shad00w said:
yes i saw a picture of the oneplus 3 somewhere with the temp sensor on the motherboard but the oneplus 6 has almost all of its ic's under heat shielding that you cant remove afaik, (they did remove it on the ifixit totorial though.
Furthermore i found a way to mock the battery tempeture sensor with adb but strangely enough you still cant charge it when you set the temp to 20 or so degrees c.
This is the page if you wnt to try it out https://www.intellectsoft.net/blog/android-shell-part-1-mocking-battery-status/
I dont even think root is required
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Michael, why are you so certain its not the board ??
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Let him say what he wants lol, i know what i am talking about, the phone was in my hand, i tried everything possible from my side, i was the one who opened the thread lol, i read about the problem, i saw videos of ppl fixing it and changing the sensor, but apparently he didn't so...
But i didn't try the method with adb back then because the phone was on warranty and we thought they should replace it would be better for us than to "magically" mock the sensor and the battery temp

i think i finally solved my problem after a week )

Chinaroad said:
Hello guys, so my friend has a new OP6, he was charging his phone util it get stucks at 82%, he rebooted the phone and then it was 50%. He turned it off and plugged it and the screen showed battery temperature is too low to charge.
We tried my charger on his phone same thing, tried to check with and app the battery temperature and it was detected as -40°C so i guess it's the sensor
We cleared the cache and even factory reset but nothing, always stuck at 50% and as you can guess it will soon die.
Any other option is welcome, here are some pics for you to check. We saw on other forums that this problem occured on other Oneplus phones like 3 and 3t but no solution yet
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Have you tried to microwave it to heat it up?

dgunn said:
Have you tried to microwave it to heat it up?
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dgunn i hope that was a joke,..
NEVER use the microwave, you can put it in the Oven at 50c but the microwave will permanently fry the device and create flashes and fires...

Shad00w said:
dgunn i hope that was a joke,..
NEVER use the microwave, you can put it in the Oven at 50c but the microwave will permanently fry the device and create flashes and fires...
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Sarcasm
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Why did you even bother responding hahahaha, or you could even say you were serious and you already tested it lool

So I just bought the one plus 6 and I read this post and kinda creeped me out incase this happens to my device do I have warranty from one plus if this device was purchased from a not so popular site

which site did you buy from, and this is a very rare case that happened, and when you buy from a site, that is no the official OP website or when OP is not the official seller in it, your warranty is between you and the website not between you and OP, i hope it's clear.
For ex: you buy from amazon, if you have any problem, you contact amazon not OP, if you buy from gearbest , you must contact gearbest in case something bad happened, and don't worry it's a very rare case and it's covered by the warranty

Solved, loose connector
I recently (about a month ago) bought a new battery from China for my Oneplus 3.
I was really happy with the improved battery life. Oneplus 3 is still a really good phone!
Just 3 days ago I saw the "temperature too low" warning, but luckily it went away.
Today I wasn't able to charge it and it showed 50% charge until it just died without a warning.
I opened it up and saw the connector was loose - the cable from the battery to the phone. It must have come loose from a drop of the phone (it does fall every now and then).
Now it's charging and I do not need to upgrade yet. 2,5 years and counting with my OP3.