Hey guys
I rooted and flashed paranoid android of my tab and it was working fine. Couple of weeks later I left it to charge overnight not realizing the charger is spoilt, hence, didn't charge my tab. Battery drained completely and i couldn't get it started again. Tried leaving it to discharge overnight and plugging in a new charger to charge overnight and still nothing. It was still under warranty so I sent to to samsung and guess what? They told me it's been rooted and hence the warranty is void and they told me they need to replace the motherboard which costs almost $300. FML. Took it back and now I have a really fancy paperweight.
Was wondering if you guys know anything I can do to get it back to life? Or at least unroot it so I can send it back for repairs?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More likely a battery issue. Batteries should never be fully discharged or risk battery damage.
Although the kernel does (supposed to) limit the charging rate, I have read others with Samsung devices manage to "kick-start" the battery back to life using a `after market ` 2 amp AC battery charger. Leave it on overnight, or at least for an hour or two before trying to power on.
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More likely a battery issue. Batteries should never be fully discharged or risk battery damage.
Although the kernel does (supposed to) limit the charging rate, I have read others with Samsung devices manage to "kick-start" the battery back to life using a `after market ` 2 amp AC battery charger. Leave it on overnight, or at least for an hour or two before trying to power on.
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Thanks for the reply!
However I did buy another 2amp AC charger and also left it overnight to charge but still got nothing. Any other suggestions? Could it be a motherboard issue? (Samsung told me it's a motherboard issue - they must have found that out somehow right?)
taufiq0177 said:
Thanks for the reply!
However I did buy another 2amp AC charger and also left it overnight to charge but still got nothing. Any other suggestions? Could it be a motherboard issue? (Samsung told me it's a motherboard issue - they must have found that out somehow right?)
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Seems very strange that depleting the battery completely would have caused a motherboard issue,.... but if Samsung say so, it must be.....
If you could get hold of a new battery and replace it yourself, the cost could be minimised (if it is a battery problem). But if it is the motherboard, you could just be waisting more of your money.
If there is no way to power the device on, yes, it is just an expensive paper weight. The cost of repair may not be worth it, Sorry.
Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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UpInTheAir said:
Seems very strange that depleting the battery completely would have caused a motherboard issue,.... but if Samsung say so, it must be.....
If you could get hold of a new battery and replace it yourself, the cost could be minimised (if it is a battery problem). But if it is the motherboard, you could just be waisting more of your money.
If there is no way to power the device on, yes, it is just an expensive paper weight. The cost of repair may not be worth it, Sorry.
Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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That's the part that puzzles me as well. If there is no way for me to power on and check the status of the device, how did Samsung manage to find out that I rooted the device? There are a few questions that have come to mind because of this:
1) Are they trying to pull a fast one on me?
2) If they are able to check my root status, means the battery can still be used. If so, how?? I just wanna boot up to unroot then send back to Samsung before my warranty ends on 11 May!!
But if nothing works then I'll be forced to buy a new phone :|
Btw thanks for the reply. Appreciate it.
They knew cause they managed to fixed your device, saw it rooted, break it again and send u back (for some extra money extortion i guess), i doubt unroot and send it back will help cause they remember, unless u take it to another country
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And the other guy know nothing, dont listen to him. They have jtag and serial console to talk with devices at basic level ( without turning the device on)
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long6688 said:
They knew cause they managed to fixed your device, saw it rooted, break it again and send u back (for some extra money extortion i guess), i doubt unroot and send it back will help cause they remember, unless u take it to another country
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Your opinion is again fact? For conspiracies -> Send in the X-Files............. :silly:
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[/COLOR]And the other guy know nothing, dont listen to him. They have jtag and serial console to talk with devices at basic level ( without turning the device on)
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Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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Why are you being antagonistic AGAIN? My statement was a question of which you answered . Please explain where I say I know everything or pretend to know nothing? BTW I'm still waiting on your ROM to be released HA
The "battery issue" is quite plausible, so may still be the cause.
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hi, i have an inspire 4G bought off ebay. the phone was used for a month and was kept inside the box for about 6 months. now, i started using it again and after 3 weeks, the phone is now switching off immediately after removing it from the charger.
i took it to HTC store, and they say it is a mother board issue. which i doubt as the phone is workin well when connected to the charger. a battery change also did not help.
any suggestions? please help
Sounds like a bad battery. Battery may be reporting charged but may not be putting out the required voltage.
Agoattamer said:
Sounds like a bad battery. Battery may be reporting charged but may not be putting out the required voltage.
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well, the HTC guy reportedly used a different battery. i live in India. anything can happen here. ANYTHING. he said it is a motherboard issue and it would cost $200 to fix it since the phone is not having any warranty.
but my question is, could it actually be a motherboard issue? i don't have issues using the phone hooked on to the charger.
You can pick up a new 3rd party battery very cheap from the net. I would try that first. Yes it could be the motherboard as anything is possible in India.
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You can pick up a new 3rd party battery very cheap from the net. I would try that first. Yes it could be the motherboard as anything is possible in India.
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Thank you for the reply buddy. I will try that
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Hey everyone,
So basically I just put the eagles blood ics ROM on my rooted g2x and everything was working great for 3 days prior to the incident.
Basically what happened was that I found this charger lying in my kitchen and saw that it was usb equipped so I plugged it into my car and plugged a oem micro usb wire in it.
I start the car, plug my phone in (on), then put it down expecting it to charge like normal, as I went to grab my wallet as the car warmed up. A few minutes later I come back, and notice a distinct smell, like something plastic was burning?
My phone was off when I grabbed it and I unplugged it immediately. I let it cool down for a few minutes and put it back in but it refused to start and it has stayed this way for several days now.
Screen show's no signs of turning on, no clock work recovery, no signs of life with the wall charger plugged in or usb in computer. It isn't turning on so I can't use adb or anything to flash a stock ROM but it's not a software problem to begin with it seems so idunno.
The only clue I have is when I plug it in to the wall charger. If you look at the back of our exposed phone, the area with the trash can symbol X'd out and black connector with 3 prongs for the battery gets hot to the touch, anyone know if this means I shorted this area or if replacing my battery with a fresh one will bring it back to life.
See attached pics of said charger, with zero indication of voltage or brand.
Thank you for your time, I'm really bummed about this. Phone is still under warranty btw, would they replace it?
Do this
Take out the battery
hold volume down + pwr
plug in battery while holding down pwr.
Tell me if there are any signs of life! also try this without the battery and with a power cord.
Blazing angel said:
Do this
Take out the battery
hold volume down + pwr
plug in battery while holding down pwr.
Tell me if there are any signs of life! also try this without the battery and with a power cord.
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nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
Use the warranty , since it doesnt turn on they wont be able to tell if its rooted or not, i would also check the volts that the lighter adapter is putting out to avoid burning out other devices.
samsizzle said:
nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
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It should power up without the battery, but not boot. If it doesn't then the phone is likely damaged. And, no they won't be able to tell it's rooted not that it makes a difference to them. I've personally sent in 2 rooted phones under warranty that worked without any problem what so ever.
samsizzle said:
nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
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yeah, the phone should work like normal without a battery while plugged in. looks like you fried your phone.
If you sent it out for warranty, i think its like a 90% chance that it will be covered (you would tell them that it did this with the stock charger)
But if you have the insurance (like it sounds like you do), you could tell them the truth and im almost sure you'll get it replaced without issue. you will have to pay the deductible though (like $100)
so it just depends on what you want to do (or what your conscience will let you to do)
Edit: also, Throw that charger in a volcano! you don't want to have someone pick it up and try to charge their phone (or your new one) with it again.
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yeah, the phone should work like normal without a battery while plugged in. looks like you fried your phone.
If you sent it out for warranty, i think its like a 90% chance that it will be covered (you would tell them that it did this with the stock charger)
But if you have the insurance (like it sounds like you do), you could tell them the truth and im almost sure you'll get it replaced without issue. you will have to pay the deductible though (like $100)
so it just depends on what you want to do (or what your conscience will let you to do)
Edit: also, Throw that charger in a volcano! you don't want to have someone pick it up and try to charge their phone (or your new one) with it again.
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Tell them the truth either way. Its the right thing to do. People wonder why phones cost so much. Cause people lie and it drives costs up for recovery. People wonder why the world is the way it is. Cause people lie. Just be honest. No one shpuld have to pay for our mistakes.
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Tell them the truth either way. Its the right thing to do. People wonder why phones cost so much. Cause people lie and it drives costs up for recovery. People wonder why the world is the way it is. Cause people lie. Just be honest. No one shpuld have to pay for our mistakes.
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We're paying for LG and nVidia's mistakes... The world is a corrupt place. Oh well.
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thanks for all the help everyone, I guess I royally screwed something up. Hope everyone learns from my mistake to never use a cheap no name brand charger!
As for the phone, I got it for free from amazon with a contract so I'll just use my warranty and pay the deductible because it's the right thing to do as I did highly modify the phone afterall...
take care everyone
Okay, not sure if this is even possible to do but I'm hoping the XDA'ers might be able to assist. I purchased a new battery for my Nexus S. I plugged the bad-boy in and try turning it on and nothing. I plug it into the wall and try turning it on-- nothing. I try putting the old battery back in.........nothing.....
I then noticed the new battery I purchased is a 1440 mAh and the old battery is 1500 mAh. This is probably something I should have checked before I bought it, and something that now makes me feel like a total idiot. What I'm wondering is could this have a hand in bricking my phone? Is there any way of fixing it? Luckily I have a Nexus 4 on the way (eventually ¬.¬) but I was planning on giving the Nexus S to my girlfriend.
Thanks in advance, guys.
No. This is totally tolerable. +-5% is the least that might cause trouble. Well within tolerances. Charge overnight and if no good then return for replacement.
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whodisname said:
No. This is totally tolerable. +-5% is the least that might cause trouble. Well within tolerances. Charge overnight and if no good then return for replacement.
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Thanks for the quick reply. The issue is that even the old battery which was at ~75% life isn't even working, even while plugged in.
Can't help much, but just so you can be at ease, mah stands for milli-amp hours, and is a measure of capacity, not power put forth. You want to match the voltage to prevent damage.
At least I've got a Nexus 4 on the way. It just sucks that I can't give this Nexus S to my girlfriend, she's stuck with an iPhone 3G =/
As an update, I had it plugged in overnight and still nothing. I had the original battery in.
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As an update, I had it plugged in overnight and still nothing. I had the original battery in.
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I'm just thinking you shorted it. It seems to be happening a lot lately in the Nexus S forums when people pull their battery. Haven't seen anyone able to fix it themselves, they usually send it for repair to Samsung. :/
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I'm just thinking you shorted it. It seems to be happening a lot lately in the Nexus S forums when people pull their battery. Haven't seen anyone able to fix it themselves, they usually send it for repair to Samsung. :/
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That's unfortunate because mine is out of warranty now. Thanks for the help, hopefully I can dispute it with Amazon and at least get the cost of the battery back.
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That's unfortunate because mine is out of warranty now. Thanks for the help, hopefully I can dispute it with Amazon and at least get the cost of the battery back.
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Get in touch with Samsung or even your phone company. You could be surprised at what they have to offer. I've heard of some people getting absolutely free fixing from Samsung (albeit not specifically the Nexus S) when out of warranty.
Does anyone know where I could order replacement battery contact pins (what is the proper term?) My SGS4G was given to me and the pins were mangled I was able to straighten 2 of them out, but one was so bad that a piece of it broke off when I was trying to fix it. My phone still turns on and hopefully charges. Also with these pins being messed up would that affect the life of the battery? Earlier this morning my phone was at 80% battery level. After playing a few songs and installing a system font with ROMtoolbox, I rebooted my phone and got a warning that my battery was almost dead. Would these contacts cause that? Or is it just my battery (My biggest theory). I would really appreciate any help that can be gven to me on this issue.
Four threads and you became a member on Feb 19. You are on a roll.
Well I was always told to ask questions and learn. But your reply did not reach me anything. El my no phone be okay with a broken battery contact? 2 are good one broken
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Without actually knowing what each contact does, and without being able to interpret "El my no" into working English with a meaning, my guess is that you're asking if your phone will still work with the contact broken. And the answer is... maybe? If it charges, great. It charges. If it turns on, well, it's probably still pulling power.
If it doesn't charge, and switching batteries or using something like a PowerSkin/keeping it on an external battery forever works for you then great... it still works.
You've already said it's turned on. I'm assuming from what you said that it was working while on battery as well, so that's obviously functioning as it should.
That basically leaves as its question... what did that pin do? And the answer is... something. Probably. If you're pulling battery normally now, it was probably a ground. Which means your phone may become a brick at some unexpected point in the future when there's a tiny power fluctuation that would normally have gone through there, but enjoy it while it lasts.
Additionally, battery-level fluctutations on restarting are fairly normal and apparently generally a sign that the battery itself is fading. Amusingly you can trick the phone into believing that there's a higher battery level by plugging into AC, restarting again, and then unplugging after it finishes the restart. Alternatively, setting the phone into Airplane mode for 30 minutes will usually jump battery level by 10-40%, depending on what its level was before and after the restart. But your best bet is to just plan on replacing the battery if you haven't destroyed the phone by poking at the pins which weren't made to be poked at.
I would look at a local repair shop. Most of them can fix those basic things without much problem.
I would just google phone repair and your city see what pops up. Read the reviews on the places and then see what they can do.
solder iron and a paper clip will make a new one. lol.
Ol thanks people I think my phone will be okay. I'm going to purchase a new battery because I do believe this one is dying
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Theraze said:
Without actually knowing what each contact does, and without being able to interpret "El my no" into working English with a meaning, my guess is that you're asking if your phone will still work ...
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Very well stated... and informative... and didn't get a "thanks" but sure got a "I thought so"... so I gave you one
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I saw the micro USB replacement sells for about $7 at a website when I search for "Samsung galaxy 4g s silver bezel replacement" in Google.
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When I turn my phone off, entirely (even after removing/re-inserting the battery) the charge animation still appears, signifying there is still some battery drain occurring....and it really does, too. It lasts for about a week in this state from fully charged, to entirely dead. This isn't the most concerning part, though....the only logical assumption is that the phone actually thinks it's being charged
I've done a FULL wipe of all partitions and a factory flash, but that hasn't helped....any suggestions? It's pretty annoying that if I don't want the battery to discharge I have to actually unplug the battery entirely, even in a full power-off state (or at least as fully powered off as this particular phone can get at the moment)
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go to samsung service
leap_ahead said:
go to samsung service
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It's well out of warranty, I'm not paying to have it fixed, and there is no way anyone at Samsung that will get on the phone to help me will be of any more assistance than I will find here
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It's well out of warranty, I'm not paying to have it fixed, and there is no way anyone at Samsung that will get on the phone to help me will be of any more assistance than I will find here
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why that ? you have other phone ?
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why that ? you have other phone ?
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Yes, my current phone is a Nexus 4. The phone with issues is a NS4G and I dropped sprint like a bad habit earlier this year, so it's just a reference device now.
Uhmmm... Dust into connector? Since the current pins are hard wired to the recharge circuit, maybe there's a short and the battery it's powering it up.
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ozone89 said:
Uhmmm... Dust into connector? Since the current pins are hard wired to the recharge circuit, maybe there's a short and the battery it's powering it up.
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Thanks for the input Dust has occurred to me in the past, and I've done a fair job of cleaning it. Just for the sake of saying I did it, I dusted it again, and this time I even unscrewed the back cover and dusted everything I could reach...much more of a teardown and I'm wandering down a road I don't want to go down....reassembly isn't my strong point. I can take anything apart without a problem...putting it back together is another story entirely lol
Anyway, I cleaned everywhere I could reach thoroughly...still happening, unfortunately.
Thank you for the input, though. You are correct that a big enough dust bunny could cause a short