When I turn my phone off, entirely (even after removing/re-inserting the battery) the charge animation still appears, signifying there is still some battery drain occurring....and it really does, too. It lasts for about a week in this state from fully charged, to entirely dead. This isn't the most concerning part, though....the only logical assumption is that the phone actually thinks it's being charged
I've done a FULL wipe of all partitions and a factory flash, but that hasn't helped....any suggestions? It's pretty annoying that if I don't want the battery to discharge I have to actually unplug the battery entirely, even in a full power-off state (or at least as fully powered off as this particular phone can get at the moment)
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go to samsung service
leap_ahead said:
go to samsung service
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It's well out of warranty, I'm not paying to have it fixed, and there is no way anyone at Samsung that will get on the phone to help me will be of any more assistance than I will find here
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It's well out of warranty, I'm not paying to have it fixed, and there is no way anyone at Samsung that will get on the phone to help me will be of any more assistance than I will find here
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why that ? you have other phone ?
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why that ? you have other phone ?
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Yes, my current phone is a Nexus 4. The phone with issues is a NS4G and I dropped sprint like a bad habit earlier this year, so it's just a reference device now.
Uhmmm... Dust into connector? Since the current pins are hard wired to the recharge circuit, maybe there's a short and the battery it's powering it up.
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Uhmmm... Dust into connector? Since the current pins are hard wired to the recharge circuit, maybe there's a short and the battery it's powering it up.
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Thanks for the input Dust has occurred to me in the past, and I've done a fair job of cleaning it. Just for the sake of saying I did it, I dusted it again, and this time I even unscrewed the back cover and dusted everything I could reach...much more of a teardown and I'm wandering down a road I don't want to go down....reassembly isn't my strong point. I can take anything apart without a problem...putting it back together is another story entirely lol
Anyway, I cleaned everywhere I could reach thoroughly...still happening, unfortunately.
Thank you for the input, though. You are correct that a big enough dust bunny could cause a short
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Hey everyone,
So basically I just put the eagles blood ics ROM on my rooted g2x and everything was working great for 3 days prior to the incident.
Basically what happened was that I found this charger lying in my kitchen and saw that it was usb equipped so I plugged it into my car and plugged a oem micro usb wire in it.
I start the car, plug my phone in (on), then put it down expecting it to charge like normal, as I went to grab my wallet as the car warmed up. A few minutes later I come back, and notice a distinct smell, like something plastic was burning?
My phone was off when I grabbed it and I unplugged it immediately. I let it cool down for a few minutes and put it back in but it refused to start and it has stayed this way for several days now.
Screen show's no signs of turning on, no clock work recovery, no signs of life with the wall charger plugged in or usb in computer. It isn't turning on so I can't use adb or anything to flash a stock ROM but it's not a software problem to begin with it seems so idunno.
The only clue I have is when I plug it in to the wall charger. If you look at the back of our exposed phone, the area with the trash can symbol X'd out and black connector with 3 prongs for the battery gets hot to the touch, anyone know if this means I shorted this area or if replacing my battery with a fresh one will bring it back to life.
See attached pics of said charger, with zero indication of voltage or brand.
Thank you for your time, I'm really bummed about this. Phone is still under warranty btw, would they replace it?
Do this
Take out the battery
hold volume down + pwr
plug in battery while holding down pwr.
Tell me if there are any signs of life! also try this without the battery and with a power cord.
Blazing angel said:
Do this
Take out the battery
hold volume down + pwr
plug in battery while holding down pwr.
Tell me if there are any signs of life! also try this without the battery and with a power cord.
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nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
Use the warranty , since it doesnt turn on they wont be able to tell if its rooted or not, i would also check the volts that the lighter adapter is putting out to avoid burning out other devices.
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nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
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It should power up without the battery, but not boot. If it doesn't then the phone is likely damaged. And, no they won't be able to tell it's rooted not that it makes a difference to them. I've personally sent in 2 rooted phones under warranty that worked without any problem what so ever.
samsizzle said:
nothing can you confirm that it turns on when plugged in without a battery? If so then my battery is not the problem and I can infer that it is something wrong with the hardware?
If I sent it in for warranty, do you think they would be able to see that it is rooted? I have full coverage for drops and what not... thank you for your time.
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yeah, the phone should work like normal without a battery while plugged in. looks like you fried your phone.
If you sent it out for warranty, i think its like a 90% chance that it will be covered (you would tell them that it did this with the stock charger)
But if you have the insurance (like it sounds like you do), you could tell them the truth and im almost sure you'll get it replaced without issue. you will have to pay the deductible though (like $100)
so it just depends on what you want to do (or what your conscience will let you to do)
Edit: also, Throw that charger in a volcano! you don't want to have someone pick it up and try to charge their phone (or your new one) with it again.
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yeah, the phone should work like normal without a battery while plugged in. looks like you fried your phone.
If you sent it out for warranty, i think its like a 90% chance that it will be covered (you would tell them that it did this with the stock charger)
But if you have the insurance (like it sounds like you do), you could tell them the truth and im almost sure you'll get it replaced without issue. you will have to pay the deductible though (like $100)
so it just depends on what you want to do (or what your conscience will let you to do)
Edit: also, Throw that charger in a volcano! you don't want to have someone pick it up and try to charge their phone (or your new one) with it again.
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Tell them the truth either way. Its the right thing to do. People wonder why phones cost so much. Cause people lie and it drives costs up for recovery. People wonder why the world is the way it is. Cause people lie. Just be honest. No one shpuld have to pay for our mistakes.
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Tell them the truth either way. Its the right thing to do. People wonder why phones cost so much. Cause people lie and it drives costs up for recovery. People wonder why the world is the way it is. Cause people lie. Just be honest. No one shpuld have to pay for our mistakes.
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We're paying for LG and nVidia's mistakes... The world is a corrupt place. Oh well.
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thanks for all the help everyone, I guess I royally screwed something up. Hope everyone learns from my mistake to never use a cheap no name brand charger!
As for the phone, I got it for free from amazon with a contract so I'll just use my warranty and pay the deductible because it's the right thing to do as I did highly modify the phone afterall...
take care everyone
Does anyone know where I could order replacement battery contact pins (what is the proper term?) My SGS4G was given to me and the pins were mangled I was able to straighten 2 of them out, but one was so bad that a piece of it broke off when I was trying to fix it. My phone still turns on and hopefully charges. Also with these pins being messed up would that affect the life of the battery? Earlier this morning my phone was at 80% battery level. After playing a few songs and installing a system font with ROMtoolbox, I rebooted my phone and got a warning that my battery was almost dead. Would these contacts cause that? Or is it just my battery (My biggest theory). I would really appreciate any help that can be gven to me on this issue.
Four threads and you became a member on Feb 19. You are on a roll.
Well I was always told to ask questions and learn. But your reply did not reach me anything. El my no phone be okay with a broken battery contact? 2 are good one broken
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Without actually knowing what each contact does, and without being able to interpret "El my no" into working English with a meaning, my guess is that you're asking if your phone will still work with the contact broken. And the answer is... maybe? If it charges, great. It charges. If it turns on, well, it's probably still pulling power.
If it doesn't charge, and switching batteries or using something like a PowerSkin/keeping it on an external battery forever works for you then great... it still works.
You've already said it's turned on. I'm assuming from what you said that it was working while on battery as well, so that's obviously functioning as it should.
That basically leaves as its question... what did that pin do? And the answer is... something. Probably. If you're pulling battery normally now, it was probably a ground. Which means your phone may become a brick at some unexpected point in the future when there's a tiny power fluctuation that would normally have gone through there, but enjoy it while it lasts.
Additionally, battery-level fluctutations on restarting are fairly normal and apparently generally a sign that the battery itself is fading. Amusingly you can trick the phone into believing that there's a higher battery level by plugging into AC, restarting again, and then unplugging after it finishes the restart. Alternatively, setting the phone into Airplane mode for 30 minutes will usually jump battery level by 10-40%, depending on what its level was before and after the restart. But your best bet is to just plan on replacing the battery if you haven't destroyed the phone by poking at the pins which weren't made to be poked at.
I would look at a local repair shop. Most of them can fix those basic things without much problem.
I would just google phone repair and your city see what pops up. Read the reviews on the places and then see what they can do.
solder iron and a paper clip will make a new one. lol.
Ol thanks people I think my phone will be okay. I'm going to purchase a new battery because I do believe this one is dying
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Without actually knowing what each contact does, and without being able to interpret "El my no" into working English with a meaning, my guess is that you're asking if your phone will still work ...
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Very well stated... and informative... and didn't get a "thanks" but sure got a "I thought so"... so I gave you one
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I saw the micro USB replacement sells for about $7 at a website when I search for "Samsung galaxy 4g s silver bezel replacement" in Google.
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Hey guys
I rooted and flashed paranoid android of my tab and it was working fine. Couple of weeks later I left it to charge overnight not realizing the charger is spoilt, hence, didn't charge my tab. Battery drained completely and i couldn't get it started again. Tried leaving it to discharge overnight and plugging in a new charger to charge overnight and still nothing. It was still under warranty so I sent to to samsung and guess what? They told me it's been rooted and hence the warranty is void and they told me they need to replace the motherboard which costs almost $300. FML. Took it back and now I have a really fancy paperweight.
Was wondering if you guys know anything I can do to get it back to life? Or at least unroot it so I can send it back for repairs?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
More likely a battery issue. Batteries should never be fully discharged or risk battery damage.
Although the kernel does (supposed to) limit the charging rate, I have read others with Samsung devices manage to "kick-start" the battery back to life using a `after market ` 2 amp AC battery charger. Leave it on overnight, or at least for an hour or two before trying to power on.
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More likely a battery issue. Batteries should never be fully discharged or risk battery damage.
Although the kernel does (supposed to) limit the charging rate, I have read others with Samsung devices manage to "kick-start" the battery back to life using a `after market ` 2 amp AC battery charger. Leave it on overnight, or at least for an hour or two before trying to power on.
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Thanks for the reply!
However I did buy another 2amp AC charger and also left it overnight to charge but still got nothing. Any other suggestions? Could it be a motherboard issue? (Samsung told me it's a motherboard issue - they must have found that out somehow right?)
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Thanks for the reply!
However I did buy another 2amp AC charger and also left it overnight to charge but still got nothing. Any other suggestions? Could it be a motherboard issue? (Samsung told me it's a motherboard issue - they must have found that out somehow right?)
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Seems very strange that depleting the battery completely would have caused a motherboard issue,.... but if Samsung say so, it must be.....
If you could get hold of a new battery and replace it yourself, the cost could be minimised (if it is a battery problem). But if it is the motherboard, you could just be waisting more of your money.
If there is no way to power the device on, yes, it is just an expensive paper weight. The cost of repair may not be worth it, Sorry.
Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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Seems very strange that depleting the battery completely would have caused a motherboard issue,.... but if Samsung say so, it must be.....
If you could get hold of a new battery and replace it yourself, the cost could be minimised (if it is a battery problem). But if it is the motherboard, you could just be waisting more of your money.
If there is no way to power the device on, yes, it is just an expensive paper weight. The cost of repair may not be worth it, Sorry.
Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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That's the part that puzzles me as well. If there is no way for me to power on and check the status of the device, how did Samsung manage to find out that I rooted the device? There are a few questions that have come to mind because of this:
1) Are they trying to pull a fast one on me?
2) If they are able to check my root status, means the battery can still be used. If so, how?? I just wanna boot up to unroot then send back to Samsung before my warranty ends on 11 May!!
But if nothing works then I'll be forced to buy a new phone :|
Btw thanks for the reply. Appreciate it.
They knew cause they managed to fixed your device, saw it rooted, break it again and send u back (for some extra money extortion i guess), i doubt unroot and send it back will help cause they remember, unless u take it to another country
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And the other guy know nothing, dont listen to him. They have jtag and serial console to talk with devices at basic level ( without turning the device on)
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They knew cause they managed to fixed your device, saw it rooted, break it again and send u back (for some extra money extortion i guess), i doubt unroot and send it back will help cause they remember, unless u take it to another country
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Your opinion is again fact? For conspiracies -> Send in the X-Files............. :silly:
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[/COLOR]And the other guy know nothing, dont listen to him. They have jtag and serial console to talk with devices at basic level ( without turning the device on)
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Edit: Without being able to power up into download or recovery mode, there is no way to remove evidence of rooting, but not sure how Samsung actually knew....
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Why are you being antagonistic AGAIN? My statement was a question of which you answered . Please explain where I say I know everything or pretend to know nothing? BTW I'm still waiting on your ROM to be released HA
The "battery issue" is quite plausible, so may still be the cause.
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Last weekend i dropped my nexus 5 in the water during a night out. After a few days drying in a sealed box with rice I turned it back on and it seemed fine. Unfortunaly after a few hours after rebooting it stopped working. When plugging in the battery logo pops up and the little logo with battery % comes up but remains at zero after charging for a while.
I'm running slimkat and when i boot into recovery while plugged in it works fine. Just managed to boot it up but in the start screen it says I should connect the charger while the battery circle is turning like it is plugged in and it turned off.
I'm guessing there is a promblem with the charging port or battery. Anyone who has experience with this? should i open my nexus up and get a new charging port/battery? I ordered a wireless charger which should arrive somewhere next week, i guess i can check if the battery is the problem.
thanks in advance
Water can damage just about anything in a phone...And trying to troubleshoot it can be impossible and costly. Best to save your money and put it towards a new device, instead of replacing hardware ....just to find out something else is still wrong after replacing a component.
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The motherboard is probably fried lol why would you use it when it's still wet
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The motherboard is probably fried lol why would you use it when it's still wet
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I let it dry for 6 days
Does it turn on? Yes? Then it isn't bricked or close to being bricked.
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Does it turn on? Yes? Then it isn't bricked or close to being bricked.
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True. But it sounds damaged...And it's usually a waste of money replacing hardware trying to fix.
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Water can damage just about anything in a phone...And trying to troubleshoot it can be impossible and costly. Best to save your money and put it towards a new device, instead of replacing hardware ....just to find out something else is still wrong after replacing a component.
Just my 2 cents. ?
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I'll second it. Pretty pointless to try to salvage a water damaged device due to the plethora of things that could've gone wrong!
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True. But it sounds damaged...And it's usually a waste of money replacing hardware trying to fix.
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So, yesterday, I'm just lounging on the couch, readin' on my OG Nexus 5 (from 2013, mind you). &, BAM !! Just turns off (with about 40% battery). So, I'm thinkin', "Ok. I'll just force a reboot..." NOTHING !! So, I plug it in... NOTHING !! I'm talkin' NO LEDs, no charging indicator, no NOTHIN' !! Can't access recovery or bootloader. I believe it to be a hardware issue, whether battery or some board, idk. So, what do you all think? Replace the battery? And, If it is dead, I'm out of luck !! Because, I have a good amount of research that I hadn't backed up yet. Btw, I'm no slouch, so I've tried every button combo, etc. Neither, do I believe it to be an internal power button issue.
Running rooted stock 6.0.1 MMB29K, stock recovery, franco.Kernel r79, SuperSU 2.66-BETA
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I suggest charging the phone using the original cable and charger that came with the phone. Leave it on the charger for about an hour to see what happens.
Yes, it could be the battery but it could also be something else. I assume you don't have another Nexus 5 to test it with.
Try to disconnect and reconnect the battery's wire. I had a similar problem and it was solved by doing so .
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I suggest charging the phone using the original cable and charger... for about an hour...
I assume you don't have another Nexus 5 to test it with.
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I've tried this, and unresponsive. And, you have assumed correctly. lol Also, I've only used the OEM cable & charger (aside from the occasional alternatives out & about i.e. friend's charger, g/f's, etc.).
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...disconnect and reconnect the battery's wire.
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By this, do you mean the long L-shaped one? Or, the smaller connection at the top of the battery? Because, I had disconnected & reconnected the ribbon, but never removed the battery, as I lack that li'l blue tool in the iFixit video.
Well, the battery will be the cheapest unless you can quickly score a used N5 with a damaged screen and working internals.
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By this, do you mean the long L-shaped one? Or, the smaller connection at the top of the battery? Because, I had disconnected & reconnected the ribbon, but never removed the battery, as I lack that li'l blue tool in the iFixit video.
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The small connector not the long L shaped. I think the L shaped is for the speaker and some other components in the bottom of the phone and not related to the battery.
You don't need the blue tool to remove the battery. Just heat the battery with a hair dryer to soften the adhesive. Then, take a a flat blade and gently slide it between the battery and frame. Slide and gently pry the battery away from the frame. I have done this several times on N5s and never had a problem.
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The small connector not the long L shaped.
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Ohhhh. Okay
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You don't need the blue tool to remove the battery...
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Thanks, everyone. I'll give it a shot in few, & report back...
Ok. So, I had gone ahead and disconnected & reconnected the battery connector to no avail. :\ (Why do bad things happen to kinda sorta, in a way relatively good people like myself?.. smh) Any other advice?..
So, I'd decided to stop being a cheap BASTARD and ordered a "Genuine OEM Google Nexus 5 LG D820 D821 2300mAh Battery BL-T9 3.8V 8.74Wh" on amazon, sold by YDT Parts for $6.49 (Free Shipping from California) if anyone else is interested. I'll post results after installation, just-in-case anyway else finds themselves in my predicament...
That price is really good for a genuine oem battery compared to prices from etradesupply.
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That price is really good for a genuine oem battery...
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I KNOW, RIGHT !? Hopefully, all that I have is a dead battery. Guess I'll see soon enough. Now, if only there were a way to get a fingerprint reader on this device, I wouldn't update till the N5's no longer updated. (What's the official term for that, anyway? Not EoL, is it?..)
Let's hope it is genuine. I bought one from Aliexpress that looked just like an original but people said it is not an original because the temperature would not go above 29c. I don't know if it is original but it's works fine.
Well, got the battery and NOTHiNG !! So, idk, maybe my N5's just dead. But, the supplier might as well have been from China - Typos, terrible English, the whole 9... Also, my OEM battery's by Sony, but this one says Samsung, so who knows?.. :: shrugs:: I don't trust these companies anymore. Thanks for y'all's input, though.
So not LEDs, no vibration, nothing?
If you have access to a Windows computer, connect the phone to the computer. Does anything appear in device manager?
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So not LEDs, no vibration, nothing?.. Does anything appear in device manager?
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Nope. NOTHiNG !! Its fine, though. My g/f'd given me her VZW HTC One (M7). So, that'll haveta do till I get my next Nexus (which'll be either a 5X or Google's 2016 offering, if I like the direction the rumors go in...). So, now... OFF to the M7 boards !! Godspeed, everyone ! Godspeed. lol