According to Huawei, the Honor 8, Honor 6X, Honor 5C, and Huawei P9 will get EMUI 5.1 update by May end this year. See full story here ?? http://huaweiadvices.com/huawei-emui-5-1-update-eligible-devices-release-date/
I doubt it will roll at the end of this month. Everyday Im checking Early access in HiCare, and there where no any beta test available, not even mentions about it.
There is no way that Huawei would just like that publish next big update without proper test, like we had with 5.0
True that Huawei is not best at rolling updates, but still when you compare it to ther OEMs its no difference at all, and all other companies have test before publishing major updates, and because they are region dependent, we should saw at least few roms based on 5.1 roam around forum from Asia or Europe.
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I doubt it will roll at the end of this month. Everyday Im checking Early access in HiCare, and there where no any beta test available, not even mentions about it.
There is no way that Huawei would just like that publish next big update without proper test, like we had with 5.0
True that Huawei is not best at rolling updates, but still when you compare it to ther OEMs its no difference at all, and all other companies have test before publishing major updates, and because they are region dependent, we should saw at least few roms based on 5.1 roam around forum from Asia or Europe.
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Well this news is from the Official Huawei site so we should be expecting these roll outs as scheduled. May be not OTA as it will have delays but on the Firmware Finder App.
I guess nothing we can do but wait for it to come. Hopefully this news is legit...
Why test, if base is still 7.0.
dkionline said:
Why test, if base is still 7.0.
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Dont get me wrong but this is some retarded reasoning you have here....
Why test at all if its still Android? Why test if its still a phone? Why test if most of people buy new phone after 2years? Why test if 90% of people that use android, dont even know what screen resolution their phone have?
maybe because EMUI 5.1 have few new features that affect user experience? Maybe because they fix/make new bugs when implementing those features?
Jesus Christ its like explaining that water is wet, sun is shining and wind is blowing...
@Akinaro, let me say this.
They have P10 to test all things and just backport to P9, so they tested it since last november. If we clearly look, they only changed code of 5.0 and added the features to it. Its not a major update from google, just one from huaweis side, that only changed their own code.
Bugs can be everywhere, look on latest B383 and B386. We can also think, if they allready testing some code in this builds.
The EVA-L19C185B387 got allready something of that, a new kernel build 5.0.0.3, as SP1 marked, so they doing and mostly ditched to release official builds on 5.0 to work on 5.1.
You just prove my point....
they only changed code of 5.0 and added the features to it
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You just said what I said: they added features that need to be tested, because they changed code of 5.0...
And no one will more than few brain cells would test new ROM on never devices and then backport it straight to older model... you realize how it sound?
Its not a major update from google, just one from huaweis side, that only changed their own code.
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What the point? Just because it was not google update it doesnt require testing? Seriously?
And even if they ditched 5.0 and jumped to 5.1 it doesnt change anything, if you, as you self mentioned, changed code and added new features that really can affect user experience(for example new memory management ) It doesnt need proper testing like any other update?
My point is still valid: saying that new update doesnt need testing is just retarded.
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You just prove my point....
You just said what I said: they added features that need to be tested, because they changed code of 5.0...
And no one will more than few brain cells would test new ROM on never devices and then backport it straight to older model... you realize how it sound?
What the point? Just because it was not google update it doesnt require testing? Seriously?
And even if they ditched 5.0 and jumped to 5.1 it doesnt change anything, if you, as you self mentioned, changed code and added new features that really can affect user experience(for example new memory management ) It doesnt need proper testing like any other update?
My point is still valid: saying that new update doesnt need testing is just retarded.
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What is the point of this discussion?
that this update would need beta testing just like any other rom, and overall is rather not possible that Huawei would release globally that update for P9 before end of this month.
On the side not part of this discussion what about seriously useless reasoning of dkionline that say "just because its based on android 7 i doesnt need testing".
Such thinking need to be pointed out as stupid, if someone like it or not.
Akinaro said:
that this update would need beta testing just like any other rom, and overall is rather not possible that Huawei would release globally that update for P9 before end of this month.
On the side not part of this discussion what about seriously useless reasoning of dkionline that say "just because its based on android 7 i doesnt need testing".
Such thinking need to be pointed out as stupid, if someone like it or not.
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Point out what you want bro but respect is not something you have
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Point out what you want bro but respect is not something you have
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I dont give a flying pig about respect, you can throw that like "forum thanks" right and left.
If I see something stupid or something that is not true I will point it out, and I dont care if someone like my opinion or not.
If anyone is one of those snowflake that roam around internet crying about everything and think that we should say only good thing about him, I have bad news for you, because world doesnt work like that, and you should deal with it, that you are not omniscient and everyone will like what you think.
I prefer facts than some internet pseudo respect. And if we fallow facts and general reasoning, you cant say anything wrong about what I was talking about. Because show me one think that I said wrong?
Its not my fault that some people have such problems with writing full sentence with proper reasoning behind their opinion.
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I dont give a flying pig about respect, you can throw that like "forum thanks" right and left.
If I see something stupid or something that is not true I will point it out, and I dont care if someone like my opinion or not.
If anyone is one of those snowflake that roam around internet crying about everything and think that we should say only good thing about him, I have bad news for you, because world doesnt work like that, and you should deal with it, that you are not omniscient and everyone will like what you think.
I prefer facts than some internet pseudo respect. And if we fallow facts and general reasoning, you cant say anything wrong about what I was talking about. Because show me one think that I said wrong?
Its not my fault that some people have such problems with writing full sentence with proper reasoning behind their opinion.
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Pfff are you not getting tired of yourself? If you dont even give a flying pig about respect never seen a flying pig but yeah anyways... Then what kind of parents do you have? Some parents that havn't learned you anything you prefer facts NO you prefer discussion wich lead to nowhere. Your not a big boy on the internet and not in real life show respect otherwise get outta here!! Enough said!
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Pfff are you not getting tired of yourself? If you dont even give a flying pig about respect never seen a flying pig but yeah anyways... Then what kind of parents do you have? Some parents that havn't learned you anything you prefer facts NO you prefer discussion wich lead to nowhere. Your not a big boy on the internet and not in real life show respect otherwise get outta here!! Enough said!
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Nope, Im not tired of my self. And my parents taught me to not mention "parents" in conversation like some sort of kid in school that dont have anything important to say, so he say something about parents or one of many stupid "mother" joke.... just like you did....
And yes, I really like discussion!
Discussion actually create our world, without it we would have nothing. Even from most trivial or offensive discussions you can get amazing thing that change to amazing inventions or ideas. Whole point of discussion is two people where one say "yes" and other say "no" and after some time they all agree about something.... not mention their own parents, its really childish.
Also its worth mention that my actual discussion ended after only two post... but then YOU showed up and had to put your few cents inside... why? maybe you could kindly say us why you had to join it if everything was said already?
Because I have tip for you: if you dont like someone opinion... you dont pay attention to it... you just move on. No one force you to push yourself between two other people discussion and say something that just make more chaos.
Also small note: if you really are so "pro respect" you would end that discussion right now, and we all stop here, and move to actual topic, if you want to add something else about it, or about my parents, feel free to use Personal Messages, I will be happy to replay to it
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Nope, Im not tired of my self. And my parents taught me to not mention "parents" in conversation like some sort of kid in school that dont have anything important to say, so he say something about parents or one of many stupid "mother" joke.... just like you did....
And yes, I really like discussion!
Discussion actually create our world, without it we would have nothing. Even from most trivial or offensive discussions you can get amazing thing that change to amazing inventions or ideas. Whole point of discussion is two people where one say "yes" and other say "no" and after some time they all agree about something.... not mention their own parents, its really childish.
Also its worth mention that my actual discussion ended after only two post... but then YOU showed up and had to put your few cents inside... why? maybe you could kindly say us why you had to join it if everything was said already?
Because I have tip for you: if you dont like someone opinion... you dont pay attention to it... you just move on. No one force you to push yourself between two other people discussion and say something that just make more chaos.
Also small note: if you really are so "pro respect" you would end that discussion right now, and we all stop here, and move to actual topic, if you want to add something else about it, or about my parents, feel free to use Personal Messages, I will be happy to replay to it
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Ok
lol,
They will test it on internal stage in china like they do now on M9. Theres allready much devices with emui 5.1, so their system itself working propably, only the kernel is the reason, nothing more or less.
Mate, you get any betatest from emui4 to 4.1 or 4.1 to 4.1.1 or anything else? No, they release it after its done.
dkionline said:
lol,
They will test it on internal stage in china like they do now on M9. Theres allready much devices with emui 5.1, so their system itself working propably, only the kernel is the reason, nothing more or less.
Mate, you get any betatest from emui4 to 4.1 or 4.1 to 4.1.1 or anything else? No, they release it after its done.
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Thanks you know what you are saying he clearly doesn't
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Thanks you know what you are saying he clearly doesn't
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I think I'll believe the guy who builds custom ROMs for this phone over the other guy lol.
jonezie said:
According to Huawei, the Honor 8, Honor 6X, Honor 5C, and Huawei P9 will get EMUI 5.1 update by May end this year.
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It's June 13th and still nothing.
hapnik said:
It's June 13th and still nothing.
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Nothing new!!!! Phone vendors lie so much!
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Now that everyone is happy to get root back. What do you think the next big thing coming for this phone is.
Qtronix
I want to see something like OpenArena get ported :-D, or some game that actually uses the 3D power on this jawn!! Pref FPS and using the accelorameter.
Anyways, good looks to everyone who helped in getting this going, I was stuck with an unrooted rc30 for a minute!! thanks!!!
When I get time, I want to play around and see if any emulators can run and access the framebuffer without going through Java.
Plenty of the major console emulators (nintendo, sega, arcades, neo-geo, etc.) have been compiled to run on ARM processors already (GP2X/GP32). I'd love to see them on a G1, tho it might take doing the Debian thing to get to where they'd actually work.
Free sim unlock Or porting windows mobile
Yeah another 1+ for Windows Mobile on the G1.
More apps being developed that require root, (Home Today Screen) like WinMo....
Someone should just write out a list of things to do after root.
Can you WinMo-on-G1 guys keep your posts on this thread pretty please? That way the rest of us only have to ignore one thread.
I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.
What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?
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I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.
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Let's see.... iPhone came out how long ago? They still don't have cut & paste? They still don't have MMS? They still don't have ...... A LOT
Yet you are worried about the pace we are seeing things? Sorry, but major problems are being resolved daily.
card13 said:
What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?
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It's already been developed, just give it some time to actually be released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&eurl=http://www.i4u.com/article21711.html
Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?
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Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?
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isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?
Our google friends are working hard we are developing a lot of thing at the moment if you hop on irc once in a while it filled with devs. G1 it juss take time u got to wait. I been trying to get copy and paste ported but it need to developed in the sdk better. I am also porting touchflo to g1, well a knock off verison lol.
I would like to see desktop widgets. Like an RSS reader, weather forcasts, and music player.
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isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?
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Is it really though? Granted, while we will all eventually get it, would you know if it was being pushed OTA right this second? Historically, one or two people got the OTA update and they announced it.
However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?
then youll have to wait a few days.
Check the t-mobile forums, nothing yet.
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However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?
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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other
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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other
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(Shaking hands & Jumping impatiently)
But I wanna know NOOOW
Our updates are blocked really? I honestly wondered if our phones downloaded the updates then tried installing the update or it sends the keys then updates. But the answer is not that important to search. As for things being done I believe Jf recompiled busybox from 1.8 mb to 700k and linked it to the system. That's a big step forward
Hey guys!
I am getting this weird error at boot logo-
"customerID error: contact dealer
Boot to suspend m/TCMD mode:dead:0000:00000000:000000cc" something like this.
It wasn't giving me any problems with kexec roms(This error was generated when I flashed a kexec rom). But when I FXZd back to ICS 4.0.4(due to some reason), it's giving me an illuminated screen nothing past that! Please help.
Edit- Did my homework and found out that it's the CID error? Also found the solution. You have to boot using BP tools. I love you XDA!! Again I'm gonna write steps here for noobs like me
1) Enter fast boot by pressing power+volume down
2) Press power button, then press power+volume up+volume down
3) navigate to bp tools and press volume up
Just realize, this does not fix the real issue, it just bypasses the check.
You most likely will have issues down the road with your provider.
The ONLY way to fix this is restore a backup of YOUR, CID image (each persons phone has a unique Customer ID).
jimbridgman said:
Just realize, this does not fix the real issue, it just bypasses the check.
You most likely will have issues down the road with your provider.
The ONLY way to fix this is restore a backup of YOUR, CID image (each persons phone has a unique Customer ID).
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Thanks for the info! Yeah I read it. So, can I backup CID now using BMM? Or is it lost forever?
What issues may I face with provider? IDK what you meant by "provider"? As in AT&T?
shubham1120 said:
Thanks for the info! Yeah I read it. So, can I backup CID now using BMM? Or is it lost forever?
What issues may I face with provider? IDK what you meant by "provider"? As in AT&T?
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Yes if that is who your network provider is, otherwise it is whoever gives you your service. This is sent to your provider with the IMEI when phone calls and data are requested. At some point your provider may stop allowing service from any phone that does not send back a valid CID.
No you can not put it back without a valid backup from YOUR phone, if you did not backup your phone, you may be screwed.
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Yes if that is who your network provider is, otherwise it is whoever gives you your service. This is sent to your provider with the IMEI when phone calls and data are requested. At some point your provider may stop allowing service from any phone that does not send back a valid CID.
No you can not put it back without a valid backup from YOUR phone, if you did not backup your phone, you may be screwed.
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Dude that sh it happens only in the US not in India where we are all from it makes no difference here .......
We get the AT&T model for real cheap so we end up buying it i got mine for like 150 dollars XD (Works like mint) :laugh:
darth_nihar said:
Dude that sh it happens only in the US not in India where we are all from it makes no difference here .......
We get the AT&T model for real cheap so we end up buying it i got mine for like 150 dollars XD (Works like mint) :laugh:
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Yeah the A2 is super cheap here, and always has been. The thing is that this phone was released in way more than just the sea area. There is the US version, the SEARET/MEARET, the HK version, there were 2 euro versions, that somehow only released a very limited number of phones, it was like in Greece and the UK, and then they stopped shipping them after only 2 months of sales (only like a few hundred).
ALL versions except the MEARET/SEARET were locked down so tight that anything you tried to do to them would screw you. And yes everywhere but in India the CID does matter, so please read, as this has been posted many times, and your posting what you did does not make it a fact, but maybe only in your country/ phone version. Also the XDA site does not only cater to the India market, it is a world wide site, and like I said the A2 was released world wide.
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Yeah the A2 is super cheap here, and always has been. The thing is that this phone was released in way more than just the sea area. There is the US version, the SEARET/MEARET, the HK version, there were 2 euro versions, that somehow only released a very limited number of phones, it was like in Greece and the UK, and then they stopped shipping them after only 2 months of sales (only like a few hundred).
ALL versions except the MEARET/SEARET were locked down so tight that anything you tried to do to them would screw you. And yes everywhere but in India the CID does matter, so please read, as this has been posted many times, and your posting what you did does not make it a fact, but maybe only in your country/ phone version. Also the XDA site does not only cater to the India market, it is a world wide site, and like I said the A2 was released world wide.
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
(PS:You COULD press that button that says THANKS ) Bharat mata ki jai lol :laugh:
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
(PS:You COULD press that button that says THANKS ) Bharat mata ki jai lol :laugh:
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
It might help you, if you go back and read all over this forum so you know what has and has not been done. The answers to most of the questions have been answered so many times now, and I have given you a break since you just signed up on XDA a month ago, but as of this post that is done, as you insulted so many devs, who do this work all for free in their spare time, to better the phone and community, and you can not even show respect for those devs, and make statements so arrogantly when you do not have all the correct information, and were just too lazy to take a look at who your devs are, and where they are from.
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
It might help you, if you go back and read all over this forum so you know what has and has not been done. The answers to most of the questions have been answered so many times now, and I have given you a break since you just signed up on XDA a month ago, but as of this post that is done, as you insulted so many devs, who do this work all for free in their spare time, to better the phone and community, and you can not even show respect for those devs, and make statements so arrogantly when you do not have all the correct information, and were just too lazy to take a look at who your devs are, and where they are from.
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Hey why you getting so pissed off im just saying that the guy who posted was frm india
i never undermined how mch work you guys put in ................
no one can ever take that from you all
i was just saying a comradery thing for the indians here why did u get so serious man........
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
Hey why you getting so pissed off im just saying that the guy who posted was frm india
i never undermined how mch work you guys put in ................
no one can ever take that from you all
i was just saying a comradery thing for the indians here why did u get so serious man........
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Read what you said, again!
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers was from India
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And what I originally said is correct wherever, you live, and for, the OP's, OG issue, is not just an issue for those in India, and ALL of your responses never took that into account. So, that is why I said what I said! And that Is why I took offense, as your statement about ALL the devs here being from india is incorrect, and you need to think before making blanket statements like that! As it is offensive to a good majority of hard work by others from around the world.
I get that the second post you made:
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Is just that, and not what I took offense to.
All I am trying to say is be careful what you say, as you are a bit of a "n00b" poster here, so read up on the history of this phone.
These are a few good posts, maybe a bit out of date, but you may get some insights from these, and gain a bit of understanding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
Whoa!
I never knew this was so serious! I mean it was mentioned in all OPs to back up CID, but I was ignorant and was like "Ah wth!! What could possibly go wrong??" But I know now what can.
ENJOYING TILL IT LASTS I WOULD SAY!
But I don't think that would cause any problems because it's not that strict here! LOL!
@darth_nihar, please learn to respect senior devs, not that I'm pointing or anything...just giving a heads up.
We cool??
shubham1120 said:
I never knew this was so serious! I mean it was mentioned in all OPs to back up CID, but I was ignorant and was like "Ah wth!! What could possibly go wrong??" But I know now what can.
ENJOYING TILL IT LASTS I WOULD SAY!
But I don't think that would cause any problems because it's not that strict here! LOL!
@darth_nihar, please learn to respect senior devs, not that I'm pointing or anything...just giving a heads up.
We cool??
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You are lucky you live in an area where carriers are less strict about security like this. You will have to bypass thr issue with bmm on every boot and this will be a real pia. you may think about buying another a2 with a broken screen and exchange the innards with you screen ans case, then take a backup of the old and new, then try and do all the same rom installs and hacks again, and if you lose the CID, you can restore it since you made a backup with the new board/storage.
I know that seems like a lot of work, but it will make you whole and you can sell the broken phone so you are not out much money.
There is guide on how to replace the screen in the general section, that should get you everything you need to do this.
Good luck!
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You are lucky you live in an area where carriers are less strict about security like this. You will have to bypass thr issue with bmm on every boot and this will be a real pia. you may think about buying another a2 with a broken screen and exchange the innards with you screen ans case, then take a backup of the old and new, then try and do all the same rom installs and hacks again, and if you lose the CID, you can restore it since you made a backup with the new board/storage.
I know that seems like a lot of work, but it will make you whole and you can sell the broken phone so you are not out much money.
There is guide on how to replace the screen in the general section, that should get you everything you need to do this.
Good luck!
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Sounds like a great idea! But I think I would rather buy a new phone down the road(nexus maybe). Because even used phones are overpriced here.
Lesson learnt..Pheww! Gotta start saving now
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Read what you said, again!
And I Quote:
And what I originally said is correct wherever, you live, and for, the OP's, OG issue, is not just an issue for those in India, and ALL of your responses never took that into account. So, that is why I said what I said! And that Is why I took offense, as your statement about ALL the devs here being from india is incorrect, and you need to think before making blanket statements like that! As it is offensive to a good majority of hard work by others from around the world.
I get that the second post you made: Is just that, and not what I took offense to.
All I am trying to say is be careful what you say, as you are a bit of a "n00b" poster here, so read up on the history of this phone.
These are a few good posts, maybe a bit out of date, but you may get some insights from these, and gain a bit of understanding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
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HEY SORRY IF U FELT THAT I OFFENDED YOU AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPERS
i know how mch hard work you put into these ROMS as well as kernels.....
i just said smthin to please that guy from nagpur who posted in the thread thats all......
just letting him know that there are a lot of us from INdia here not only him alone .........
Sorry if it got you mad at me ...........
On the contrary i actually like your work and devlopment you have put in and kinda wierd to say im a big fan of your work
so again saying that im sorry if you felt pissed of ...........:highfive:
darth_nihar said:
HEY SORRY IF U FELT THAT I OFFENDED YOU AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPERS
i know how mch hard work you put into these ROMS as well as kernels.....
i just said smthin to please that guy from nagpur who posted in the thread thats all......
just letting him know that there are a lot of us from INdia here not only him alone .........
Sorry if it got you mad at me ...........
On the contrary i actually like your work and devlopment you have put in and kinda wierd to say im a big fan of your work
so again saying that im sorry if you felt pissed of ...........:highfive:
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No it's cool. Just be careful what you post, and that people get your drift. Be glad it was me, and that was not really pissed, because I have had people banned for being complete pricks, not that you were. Others may not have been so gracious.
We are cool, though.
I would like to add that, though I am far from being a developer, I am also from the US. I live in Louisiana now, but I am originally from Texas, which if I remember correctly, Jim is too. If I am right about that then I can vouch for him that you did get off easy. There's a reason that the saying is " Don't mess with Texas ". We Texans are a no-nonsense group of people. Hahaha!
If I had a dollar for every time I said that, I'd be making money in a very weird way.
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No it's cool. Just be careful what you post, and that people get your drift. Be glad it was me, and that was not really pissed, because I have had people banned for being complete pricks, not that you were. Others may not have been so gracious.
We are cool, though.
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kk man wontt happen again .............:laugh:
jimbridgman said:
Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
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Ok now you seriously crossed your line.
* crapload of people, from India (right now)*
* so you can sort of throw him out*
Seriously? He has done way more than you ever did.
As for all the *devs* you mentioned "all from US" , only 2 of them do real development. Namely hash and altered. Rdavisct and daavis used to dev.. But that was long time ago.. So you can sort of throw out the rest (including and especially yourself). And you actually spoil their reputation. Considering how humble hash and altered are..
The one who actually brought a proper working aosp (including radio) based roms to this device was Wang. And I remember the way you posted in that thread.. All the skepticism.. The only thing you ever said before this was " I am working on ril" "discussing ril on XDA is not allowed"..
As for all that you boast about yourself, here is the truth. You are a big fake.. You have actually done no development for this device. The only thing was the Ubuntu on webtop hack. And I am not really sure how original it is..
The only things you say are
1. Some thing big is on the horizon/around the corner.
2. Give credit.
3. Cannot be done.
Here is one more thing. On the a2 you always said the bl is locked so you cannot do anything. I haven't seen you do anything for the s3.. That has an unlock able bl I guess..
"and I have not seen either one very recently, on here."
Really? I come here and post pretty much every day..
Oh and if there is something you are good at, that's starting flamewars. Since you no longer have the phone any more and posted your "goodbye" thread, here is a sincere request..
PLEASE LEAVE!
Nothing worthwhile has come from you.
Honestly, you are the reason this device's development was hampered.. Not the locked bl..
BTW, here are a few worthy things devesh has done.
1. Get hash, dtrail, altered and me in contact and hence get things moving. He is half the reason we have "official" cm today. It's not you.
2. He is the whole reason we have JBX. Dtrail1 doesn't own an a2..
And at the one who posted the other post, here is something you need to keep in mind.
There are Ppl from all over the world with different nationalities, gender, race, religion and everything else. So DONT POST ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE MENTIONED.
P. S. And Ppl from any other nation, nothing personal. If I have hurt any of you in the above rant, my sincere apologies. I have respect for all nations.
Good bye.
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I emailed the N beta team to see if I could participate and this is the response I got.
"Dear Customer
Thank you for your interest in Galaxy Beta Program.
Due to great responase, currently the registration for this program has reached limit.
However we are currently discussing expanding the S7 Beta Program with carriers.
Best regards,
Galaxy Beta Program Team"
Yea i thnk so they are trying to expand....
I didnot register first time
And for past couple days i was getting server error.
Now it shows i can register but at the end it says maximum reached but maybe i thnk they will expand.....hope so i want the nougat badly
Same here with the registration
If they find a way to kick all of the Verizon beta users who are using the beta update against Samsung's will then maybe they will expand it for legitimate users.
I miss the good ol' days when the Odin files for future updates were leaked regularly. But that was like 5 Galaxies ago.
ShrekOpher said:
If they find a way to kick all of the Verizon beta users who are using the beta update against Samsung's will then maybe they will expand it for legitimate users.
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How do you know if they even care?
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I'm so pissed I missed registration....it's crap how they limited it...it's not like everyone wants the better lol.
I dnt understand limiting betw upgrade...
Evry1 should get it....
Why only few peeps shud get it
Those who dont want should not register....
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I dnt understand limiting betw upgrade...
Evry1 should get it....
Why only few peeps shud get it
Those who dont want should not register....
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In case something goes massively wrong they don't have to replace thousands of phones instead of hundreds. They did just have to do something like that.
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I dnt understand limiting betw upgrade...
Evry1 should get it....
Why only few peeps shud get it
Those who dont want should not register....
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The smaller the group the easier it is for them to fix the reported bugs. Why would they want 100,000 betas instead of 10,000 it is easier for them to not have as many suggestions and bug reports.
I am just curious but why is everyone running to Nougat? It is my understand that there isn't any root yet out for it. Unless I haven't read enough.
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I am just curious but why is everyone running to Nougat? It is my understand that there isn't any root yet out for it. Unless I haven't read enough.
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from others experience,it's faster compared to tmo apk1 mm and battery is also better..
i can stay widout root bcoz phone gets hot compared to stock one........
my opinion
WhiteEVO said:
I emailed the N beta team to see if I could participate and this is the response I got.
"Dear Customer
Thank you for your interest in Galaxy Beta Program.
Due to great responase, currently the registration for this program has reached limit.
However we are currently discussing expanding the S7 Beta Program with carriers.
Best regards,
Galaxy Beta Program Team"
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I tried the exact same thing and got the exact same response - lol
Note the email header - Korean script - which means this is being run directly from there and they could care less about how anyone over here feels about the program.
swapy123 said:
I dnt understand limiting betw upgrade...
Evry1 should get it....
Why only few peeps shud get it
Those who dont want should not register....
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Is English no longer being taught in schools?
Anyway, they limit the numbers of beta testers likely because they don't have server capacity to handle everyone who wants it, for bug reports and other metrics. And they probably only require a certain sample size and don't want more people than they need. They are doing the beta for them, not for you to have early access to 7.0.
mweinbach said:
The smaller the group the easier it is for them to fix the reported bugs. Why would they want 100,000 betas instead of 10,000 it is easier for them to not have as many suggestions and bug reports.
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After the Note 7 they're gonna want all the bug reports they can get.. They need to have 0 issues with this update when it goes live... Any small issue will be exaggerated greatly due to the note 7. They're projected to lose over 5 Billion dollars. That's a lot of spare change right there! Since the s7 edge is what they're replacing notes with, as well as pushing it like crazy now with a new round of advertising, they need it to be perfect.
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Is English no longer being taught in schools?
Anyway, they limit the numbers of beta testers likely because they don't have server capacity to handle everyone who wants it, for bug reports and other metrics. And they probably only require a certain sample size and don't want more people than they need. They are doing the beta for them, not for you to have early access to 7.0.
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If u are very proficient in english please teach me...
If u consider urself very gr8...
I am not from usa fyi....so no English is not my first language....
And about beta program i understand that they cant increase the limit.. it was just my opinion i expressed....which i am allowed to do i thnk so....
I was pissed off i couldnot get into beta so i expressed my opinion about this....
swapy123 said:
If u are very proficient in english please teach me...
If u consider urself very gr8...
I am not from usa fyi....so no English is not my first language....
And about beta program i understand that they cant increase the limit.. it was just my opinion i expressed....which i am allowed to do i thnk so....
I was pissed off i couldnot get into beta so i expressed my opinion about this....
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English isn't my first language either, fyi. It's one thing to make syntax and grammatical errors, and it's easy to tell when someone makes mistakes typical to non-native speakers. Nobody would ever fault you for that. But typing like you're a 12 year old girl (see urself, gr8, evry1, etc) has nothing to do with being a non-native English speaker. If you are indeed a 12 year old girl, please accept my apologies. But if you are an adult, cut out the ridiculous shorthand and communicate like an adult.
As to your second point, nobody told you that you could not express your opinion. In fact, I'm pretty sure I answered your question. Also, they could very well increase the limit for the beta in the future.
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English isn't my first language either, fyi. It's one thing to make syntax and grammatical errors, and it's easy to tell when someone makes mistakes typical to non-native speakers. But typing like you're a 12 year old girl (see urself, gr8, evry1, etc) has nothing to do with not being a native English speaker.
As to your second point, nobody told you that you could not express your opinion. In fact, I'm pretty sure I answered your question.
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Bro thats how everyone talks nowadays while chatting... i know how to spell all the words....
It wasn't typing mistake by me.. this is syntax used in messaging...no one types whole word..so just drop this issue right here...no need to start fights....
........
Believe me, I know very well that it wasn't a typing mistake by you. That's what makes it annoying. But I guess if you want to come off as a preteen girl, that's you call. Just understand that this is what you sound like.
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Believe me, I know very well that it wasn't a typing mistake by you. That's what makes it annoying. But I guess if you want to come off as a preteen girl, that's you call. Just understand that this is what you sound like.
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This helps this thread in what way? I know, about as much as this post from me.. none!
https://en.miui.com/thread-4455348-1-1.html
This was the only reason I had to refund my poco.
If this gets confirmed I'll be more than glad to get it once again.
What do you guys think?
Seems like the real deal to me.
(finally)
Finally!
vicky1859 said:
Finally!
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One word sums up my feelings about this perfectly.
I really hope this will be the real deal so I can get it back ASAP.
It's literally the only device that covers all my needs, any other device I'd get I'd have to compromise on something.
I have read the post, I understand why he can't share out the fix. Because he has no right to do that. Some jerks there are trying to provoke him and xiaomi for not share out.
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I have read the post, I understand why he can't share out the fix. Because he has no right to do that. Some jerks there are trying to provoke him and xiaomi for not share out.
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Well I wouldn't share it either.
This would break their trust and besides that it may have side effects in the long term we are not aware of, they may need to finalize the firmware before rolling it out.
nfsmw_gr said:
Well I wouldn't share it either.
This would break their trust and besides that it may have side effects in the long term we are not aware of, they may need to finalize the firmware before rolling it out.
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Agree, people provide a secret firmware fix as a trust to you, just don't break the trust. Some 'Clever' people are simply ridiculous.
Some said he will share straight away once he confirms it is fixed.
some ask the OP to upload the fix at some other link so people can share the fix..
Omg, they are so 'clever'.
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Agree, people provide a secret firmware fix as a trust to you, just don't break the trust. Some 'Clever' people are simply ridiculous.
Some said he will share straight away once he confirms it is fixed.
some ask the OP to upload the fix at some other link so people can share the fix..
Omg, they are so 'clever'.
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Heh, I like the way you put it.
Seriously, they need to get a life.
I saw there is one large jerk who has sold his poco f1 because of the touch issue and change to Nokia 7 plus.
Now that this post is out, he is now spamming and spreading virus in there.
He must be so sad that the fix is out but he can't do anything because he has sold it already.
I will pray for him.........to get Tombstone Piledriver by The Undertaker and Attitude Adjustment by Joooohhhnnnnnn Ceeeeeeeeeennnnaaaaaaa!!!!!
thomas140 said:
Agree, people provide a secret firmware fix as a trust to you, just don't break the trust. Some 'Clever' people are simply ridiculous.
Some said he will share straight away once he confirms it is fixed.
some ask the OP to upload the fix at some other link so people can share the fix..
Omg, they are so 'clever'.
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You so "clever" boi when there no fix for this touch delay. And u still stay waiting for release like a good dogo.
fallout4all said:
You so "clever" boi when there no fix for this touch delay. And u still stay waiting for release like a good dogo.
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Look I was unoptimistic as well, but this has been fixed before with this exact same method on another device I owned myself, so it can be fixed.
The thing is Xiaomi hasn't ever provided feedback on this issue, that's why everyone, me included, thought this wouldn't get fixed.
Now that we have video evidence I'm confident this will be resolved as well.
P. S. if you're baiting, it's a hell of a bad one fyi.
nobody noticed that in the video , his ping ms was over 1000 in the beginning ?
Aimara said:
nobody noticed that in the video , his ping ms was over 1000 in the beginning ?
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LOL MAN.
What the hell does ping have to do with screen input latency?
The measuring is done with the android developer option: "Show pointer location." not with PUBG.
Ping has nothing to do with that.
If you had some basic technology knowledge you would know these are different things and wouldn't have posted what you posted.
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Look I was unoptimistic as well, but this has been fixed before with this exact same method on another device I owned myself, so it can be fixed.
The thing is Xiaomi hasn't ever provided feedback on this issue, that's why everyone, me included, thought this wouldn't get fixed.
Now that we have video evidence I'm confident this will be resolved as well.
P. S. if you're baiting, it's a hell of a bad one fyi.
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No answers from Xiaomi and they remove info about bug in official post, I can't show u link to post on forum because I'm new at this forum.
So my Hope is down.
How long we must wait?! This phone was released 3 months ago. And bug still there...
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No answers from Xiaomi and they remove info about bug in official post, I can't show u link to post on forum because I'm new at this forum.
So my Hope is down.
How long we must wait?! This phone was released 3 months ago. And bug still there...
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I hear you.
Well since a dev managed to find a fix I'd think this would be included in the next beta or two, and most likely in the next stable as well.
(if no side effects are found that is)
I understand your frustration, but don't tell me about it, since this annoyed me so much that I refunded my phone just for this, and use a redmi note 3, my backup phone, for the time being.
nfsmw_gr said:
LOL MAN.
What the hell does ping have to do with screen input latency?
The measuring is done with the android developer option: "Show pointer location." not with PUBG.
Ping has nothing to do with that.
If you had some basic technology knowledge you would know these are different things and wouldn't have posted what you posted.
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Ping cause lag ? It's shows the game screen not moving during 1000ms but pointer detected and moves,lol have you watch the video at all ,you the one that posted the link ?
Aimara said:
Ping cause lag ? It's shows the game screen not moving during 1000ms but pointer detected and moves,lol have you watch the video at all ,you the one that posted the link ?
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It seems your inteligence reaches the level of a pineapple.
Not gonna bother explaining what kind of lag is the one you refering vs the real issue this device has.
You either understand or not.
Also google is your friend, use it.
And yes of course I saw the video, if it wasn't clear to me this was a real fic I wouldn't have made the thread, I have enough experience with electronics to understand, that's what I studied and got a degree in as well.
nfsmw_gr said:
It seems your inteligence reaches the level of a pineapple.
Not gonna bother explaining what kind of lag is the one you refering vs the real issue this device has.
You either understand or not.
Also google is your friend, use it.
And yes of course I saw the video, if it wasn't clear to me this was a real fic I wouldn't have made the thread, I have enough experience with electronics to understand, that's what I studied and got a degree in as well.
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Yes ,you are the in house smarties pants,no point debating ,I presumed your so called degree specialize in smart phones?
I really want to stay optimistic about this fix. That's the only thing we could do for now.
fallout4all said:
No answers from Xiaomi and they remove info about bug in official post, I can't show u link to post on forum because I'm new at this forum.
So my Hope is down.
How long we must wait?! This phone was released 3 months ago. And bug still there...
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Here is official response from Alvis(Head of Pocophone global)
https://mobile.twitter.com/atytse/status/1061252037315305478
Enjoy.
Ugh, I'm sick of them talking and throwing empty promises at us, just implement the fix and be done with it already... Anyway, the guy who received the fix said it didn't work with the latest Pie beta so they will have to rework it for new updates if they really plan on releasing it at all.
so I bought the 3a a few days ago, and I updated to Android 10. Wanting to install TWRP, I saw it wasn't available for the latest version yet. I know if I wanna root I can just flash the boot.img, but that's not why I'm here :
- are we gonna get TWRP anytime soon? I would prefer to wait for it
- haven't seen a custom ROM with Q/10 yet. Is it expected anytime soon too?
- Should we get multi rom support one day?
Given that there isn't any major feature in 10, I could just go back but I can wait a few weeks too.
Thanks in advance
PS: I'm not asking for ETAs, just a rough idea to help my decisionship
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80175195&postcount=189
benji said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80175195&postcount=189
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how fast does TeamWin respond to major android updates?
Given the current enthusiasm, or lack thereof with regard to Android 10 for this line of Pixels, I dont see much development happening soon if at all. I dont know why though its a great phone. I had the Pixel 3 when it came out and I do not miss that phone at all now that I have the 3a.
vinz244 said:
how fast does TeamWin respond to major android updates?
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Every update is different. I assure you they are working on it as quickly as possible. I believe there are some major file and partition changes that are creating a pretty big hurdle they have to get over.
Archangel said:
Given the current enthusiasm, or lack thereof with regard to Android 10 for this line of Pixels, I dont see much development happening soon if at all. I dont know why though its a great phone. I had the Pixel 3 when it came out and I do not miss that phone at all now that I have the 3a.
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People don't decide to move faster based on these passive approaches of suggesting "they don't care." We both know this was a sneaky troll attempt. No one will bite, I assure you. They are just going to continue at the normal speed they can.
Nevermind,,,not worth my time,,, move on.
edufur said:
People don't decide to move faster based on these passive approaches of suggesting "they don't care." We both know this was a sneaky troll attempt. No one will bite, I assure you. They are just going to continue at the normal speed they can.
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The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
alliance1975 said:
The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
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Exactly that. Only thing really missing is built in call recording and better sound quality through headphones.
alliance1975 said:
The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
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Overall? yes you are right.
But i miss some feats like
Hide battery icon
Get rid of album art at lockscreen
Double tap lockscreen to sleep
...
Just small things that wont hurt that much ^^
@Unstroofy and @yabadabadooo.
Indeed. My needs are basic, bt for auto, maps for directions, and I add some of my own apps. I can definitely understand where those smarter and more adept than me like to test, tinker and experiment. I'm nearing 70 and I like this phone for dependability.
Oh yes and not a lot of bloatware.
edufur said:
People don't decide to move faster based on these passive approaches of suggesting "they don't care." We both know this was a sneaky troll attempt. No one will bite, I assure you. They are just going to continue at the normal speed they can.
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I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
alliance1975 said:
The 3a is the first phone I've gotten where I don't see any need for a custom rom. It's great just the way it is.
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II'd like to get rid of google in the long run (except for the photo app hehe)
yabadabadooo said:
Overall? yes you are right.
But i miss some feats like
Hide battery icon
Get rid of album art at lockscreen
Double tap lockscreen to sleep
...
Just small things that wont hurt that much ^^
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You can toggle the battery icon inside the power settings
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I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
II'd like to get rid of google in the long run (except for the photo app hehe)
You can toggle the battery icon inside the power settings
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What Power settings? ^^
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I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
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It is nice that you are extending a lot of latitude in lending the benefit of the doubt on this. The fact of the matter is that his claim was baseless. Android 10 has barely been out for a couple weeks. And to be honest, I have seen a lot of enthusiasm for it before and after. The truth is, that the whole "nobody cares" approach is used to cause a stir that the OP or replier is setting up as a challenge... as if the DEVs are failing and they need to get their sh*t together. It is a tired tactic that I am sick of seeing. It is subtle trolling. Even if he is the exception to the rule, I see this approach used too often and I think it does more harm than good to the userbase who counts on these DEVs (who by the way, don't get paid for their hard work).
Spot on brother, thank you. I have been around since the inception of Android and have been developing since day one. I have seen what great dev enthusiasm looks like and have seen devices get lost even though they are great devices. The Pixel 3a is a great device and everyone here is right it doesnt need that much in the way of custom roms. My hope is that it wont get lost esp when the Pixel 4 comes out. Not gonna take the bait on the haters who try to pick apart everything people say and turn it into something bad. This is a great community of Android enthusiasts helping other Android enthusiasts.
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I assume it was just an assessment and he wasn't trying to troll or anything, just saying the community around Android 10 isn't very enthousiast. No value judgment.
II'd like to get rid of google in the long run (except for the photo app hehe)
You can toggle the battery icon inside the power settings
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It is nice that you are extending a lot of latitude in lending the benefit of the doubt on this. The fact of the matter is that his claim was baseless. Android 10 has barely been out for a couple weeks. And to be honest, I have seen a lot of enthusiasm for it before and after. The truth is, that the whole "nobody cares" approach is used to cause a stir that the OP or replier is setting up as a challenge... as if the DEVs are failing and they need to get their sh*t together. It is a tired tactic that I am sick of seeing. It is subtle trolling. Even if he is the exception to the rule, I see this approach used too often and I think it does more harm than good to the userbase who counts on these DEVs (who by the way, don't get paid for their hard work).
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You sound like you want an argument to be honest. Maybe head over to reddit.
I can say that I'm not wild about Q, and was perfectly happy on P, but 99% of the reason I bought this phone was for the DSDS support which as far as I can tell, is completely dependent on Q at this point in time (and I'm assuming always will be). I've also been using CM/LineageOS for years now, and that's typically the 3rd thing I do to a new phone when I get it, behind unlock BL/root. I will say I'm a bit disappointed that LOS official isn't yet available for the 3a, but on the other hand, I totally get it with Q being so fresh.
I'd love to be one of the guys that is helping out with the dev side, but I've had so many irons in the fire with other projects for so many years that I just don't have time to do Android stuff as well. But I will say that I HUGELY appreciative of all the work that the devs have done for the community, and I will gladly wait for them to work their magic, especially considering we could all be playing the jailbreak cat and mouse game along with "damn it! the phone just updated, and I can't roll back to the version the JB supports now!".
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You sound like you want an argument to be honest.
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Those are the best kind of arguments. Dishonest arguments suck.
Development will eventually happen for A10. After all, eventually all new phones will use it, or beyond. Anyone who complains about lack of development should learn how to do development and fix the issue themselves. Otherwise, you get what you pay for.