Hey guys!
I am getting this weird error at boot logo-
"customerID error: contact dealer
Boot to suspend m/TCMD mode:dead:0000:00000000:000000cc" something like this.
It wasn't giving me any problems with kexec roms(This error was generated when I flashed a kexec rom). But when I FXZd back to ICS 4.0.4(due to some reason), it's giving me an illuminated screen nothing past that! Please help.
Edit- Did my homework and found out that it's the CID error? Also found the solution. You have to boot using BP tools. I love you XDA!! Again I'm gonna write steps here for noobs like me
1) Enter fast boot by pressing power+volume down
2) Press power button, then press power+volume up+volume down
3) navigate to bp tools and press volume up
Just realize, this does not fix the real issue, it just bypasses the check.
You most likely will have issues down the road with your provider.
The ONLY way to fix this is restore a backup of YOUR, CID image (each persons phone has a unique Customer ID).
jimbridgman said:
Just realize, this does not fix the real issue, it just bypasses the check.
You most likely will have issues down the road with your provider.
The ONLY way to fix this is restore a backup of YOUR, CID image (each persons phone has a unique Customer ID).
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Thanks for the info! Yeah I read it. So, can I backup CID now using BMM? Or is it lost forever?
What issues may I face with provider? IDK what you meant by "provider"? As in AT&T?
shubham1120 said:
Thanks for the info! Yeah I read it. So, can I backup CID now using BMM? Or is it lost forever?
What issues may I face with provider? IDK what you meant by "provider"? As in AT&T?
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Yes if that is who your network provider is, otherwise it is whoever gives you your service. This is sent to your provider with the IMEI when phone calls and data are requested. At some point your provider may stop allowing service from any phone that does not send back a valid CID.
No you can not put it back without a valid backup from YOUR phone, if you did not backup your phone, you may be screwed.
jimbridgman said:
Yes if that is who your network provider is, otherwise it is whoever gives you your service. This is sent to your provider with the IMEI when phone calls and data are requested. At some point your provider may stop allowing service from any phone that does not send back a valid CID.
No you can not put it back without a valid backup from YOUR phone, if you did not backup your phone, you may be screwed.
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Dude that sh it happens only in the US not in India where we are all from it makes no difference here .......
We get the AT&T model for real cheap so we end up buying it i got mine for like 150 dollars XD (Works like mint) :laugh:
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Dude that sh it happens only in the US not in India where we are all from it makes no difference here .......
We get the AT&T model for real cheap so we end up buying it i got mine for like 150 dollars XD (Works like mint) :laugh:
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Yeah the A2 is super cheap here, and always has been. The thing is that this phone was released in way more than just the sea area. There is the US version, the SEARET/MEARET, the HK version, there were 2 euro versions, that somehow only released a very limited number of phones, it was like in Greece and the UK, and then they stopped shipping them after only 2 months of sales (only like a few hundred).
ALL versions except the MEARET/SEARET were locked down so tight that anything you tried to do to them would screw you. And yes everywhere but in India the CID does matter, so please read, as this has been posted many times, and your posting what you did does not make it a fact, but maybe only in your country/ phone version. Also the XDA site does not only cater to the India market, it is a world wide site, and like I said the A2 was released world wide.
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Yeah the A2 is super cheap here, and always has been. The thing is that this phone was released in way more than just the sea area. There is the US version, the SEARET/MEARET, the HK version, there were 2 euro versions, that somehow only released a very limited number of phones, it was like in Greece and the UK, and then they stopped shipping them after only 2 months of sales (only like a few hundred).
ALL versions except the MEARET/SEARET were locked down so tight that anything you tried to do to them would screw you. And yes everywhere but in India the CID does matter, so please read, as this has been posted many times, and your posting what you did does not make it a fact, but maybe only in your country/ phone version. Also the XDA site does not only cater to the India market, it is a world wide site, and like I said the A2 was released world wide.
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Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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darth_nihar said:
Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
(PS:You COULD press that button that says THANKS ) Bharat mata ki jai lol :laugh:
darth_nihar said:
Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
I LIKE TO PLEASE THE MASSSES!!!! :laugh:
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ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
(PS:You COULD press that button that says THANKS ) Bharat mata ki jai lol :laugh:
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
It might help you, if you go back and read all over this forum so you know what has and has not been done. The answers to most of the questions have been answered so many times now, and I have given you a break since you just signed up on XDA a month ago, but as of this post that is done, as you insulted so many devs, who do this work all for free in their spare time, to better the phone and community, and you can not even show respect for those devs, and make statements so arrogantly when you do not have all the correct information, and were just too lazy to take a look at who your devs are, and where they are from.
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Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
It might help you, if you go back and read all over this forum so you know what has and has not been done. The answers to most of the questions have been answered so many times now, and I have given you a break since you just signed up on XDA a month ago, but as of this post that is done, as you insulted so many devs, who do this work all for free in their spare time, to better the phone and community, and you can not even show respect for those devs, and make statements so arrogantly when you do not have all the correct information, and were just too lazy to take a look at who your devs are, and where they are from.
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Hey why you getting so pissed off im just saying that the guy who posted was frm india
i never undermined how mch work you guys put in ................
no one can ever take that from you all
i was just saying a comradery thing for the indians here why did u get so serious man........
darth_nihar said:
Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers as well as users even the guy who posted this question was from India so
Hey why you getting so pissed off im just saying that the guy who posted was frm india
i never undermined how mch work you guys put in ................
no one can ever take that from you all
i was just saying a comradery thing for the indians here why did u get so serious man........
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Read what you said, again!
And I Quote:
darth_nihar said:
Ya but you do realize that the majority of the devlopers was from India
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And what I originally said is correct wherever, you live, and for, the OP's, OG issue, is not just an issue for those in India, and ALL of your responses never took that into account. So, that is why I said what I said! And that Is why I took offense, as your statement about ALL the devs here being from india is incorrect, and you need to think before making blanket statements like that! As it is offensive to a good majority of hard work by others from around the world.
I get that the second post you made:
darth_nihar said:
ALL THOSE INDIANS IN D HOUSE GIVE ME A HIGH FIVE !!!!!
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Is just that, and not what I took offense to.
All I am trying to say is be careful what you say, as you are a bit of a "n00b" poster here, so read up on the history of this phone.
These are a few good posts, maybe a bit out of date, but you may get some insights from these, and gain a bit of understanding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
Whoa!
I never knew this was so serious! I mean it was mentioned in all OPs to back up CID, but I was ignorant and was like "Ah wth!! What could possibly go wrong??" But I know now what can.
ENJOYING TILL IT LASTS I WOULD SAY!
But I don't think that would cause any problems because it's not that strict here! LOL!
@darth_nihar, please learn to respect senior devs, not that I'm pointing or anything...just giving a heads up.
We cool??
shubham1120 said:
I never knew this was so serious! I mean it was mentioned in all OPs to back up CID, but I was ignorant and was like "Ah wth!! What could possibly go wrong??" But I know now what can.
ENJOYING TILL IT LASTS I WOULD SAY!
But I don't think that would cause any problems because it's not that strict here! LOL!
@darth_nihar, please learn to respect senior devs, not that I'm pointing or anything...just giving a heads up.
We cool??
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You are lucky you live in an area where carriers are less strict about security like this. You will have to bypass thr issue with bmm on every boot and this will be a real pia. you may think about buying another a2 with a broken screen and exchange the innards with you screen ans case, then take a backup of the old and new, then try and do all the same rom installs and hacks again, and if you lose the CID, you can restore it since you made a backup with the new board/storage.
I know that seems like a lot of work, but it will make you whole and you can sell the broken phone so you are not out much money.
There is guide on how to replace the screen in the general section, that should get you everything you need to do this.
Good luck!
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You are lucky you live in an area where carriers are less strict about security like this. You will have to bypass thr issue with bmm on every boot and this will be a real pia. you may think about buying another a2 with a broken screen and exchange the innards with you screen ans case, then take a backup of the old and new, then try and do all the same rom installs and hacks again, and if you lose the CID, you can restore it since you made a backup with the new board/storage.
I know that seems like a lot of work, but it will make you whole and you can sell the broken phone so you are not out much money.
There is guide on how to replace the screen in the general section, that should get you everything you need to do this.
Good luck!
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Sounds like a great idea! But I think I would rather buy a new phone down the road(nexus maybe). Because even used phones are overpriced here.
Lesson learnt..Pheww! Gotta start saving now
jimbridgman said:
Read what you said, again!
And I Quote:
And what I originally said is correct wherever, you live, and for, the OP's, OG issue, is not just an issue for those in India, and ALL of your responses never took that into account. So, that is why I said what I said! And that Is why I took offense, as your statement about ALL the devs here being from india is incorrect, and you need to think before making blanket statements like that! As it is offensive to a good majority of hard work by others from around the world.
I get that the second post you made: Is just that, and not what I took offense to.
All I am trying to say is be careful what you say, as you are a bit of a "n00b" poster here, so read up on the history of this phone.
These are a few good posts, maybe a bit out of date, but you may get some insights from these, and gain a bit of understanding:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778853
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857631
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1396650
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HEY SORRY IF U FELT THAT I OFFENDED YOU AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPERS
i know how mch hard work you put into these ROMS as well as kernels.....
i just said smthin to please that guy from nagpur who posted in the thread thats all......
just letting him know that there are a lot of us from INdia here not only him alone .........
Sorry if it got you mad at me ...........
On the contrary i actually like your work and devlopment you have put in and kinda wierd to say im a big fan of your work
so again saying that im sorry if you felt pissed of ...........:highfive:
darth_nihar said:
HEY SORRY IF U FELT THAT I OFFENDED YOU AND ALL THE OTHER DEVELOPERS
i know how mch hard work you put into these ROMS as well as kernels.....
i just said smthin to please that guy from nagpur who posted in the thread thats all......
just letting him know that there are a lot of us from INdia here not only him alone .........
Sorry if it got you mad at me ...........
On the contrary i actually like your work and devlopment you have put in and kinda wierd to say im a big fan of your work
so again saying that im sorry if you felt pissed of ...........:highfive:
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No it's cool. Just be careful what you post, and that people get your drift. Be glad it was me, and that was not really pissed, because I have had people banned for being complete pricks, not that you were. Others may not have been so gracious.
We are cool, though.
I would like to add that, though I am far from being a developer, I am also from the US. I live in Louisiana now, but I am originally from Texas, which if I remember correctly, Jim is too. If I am right about that then I can vouch for him that you did get off easy. There's a reason that the saying is " Don't mess with Texas ". We Texans are a no-nonsense group of people. Hahaha!
If I had a dollar for every time I said that, I'd be making money in a very weird way.
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No it's cool. Just be careful what you post, and that people get your drift. Be glad it was me, and that was not really pissed, because I have had people banned for being complete pricks, not that you were. Others may not have been so gracious.
We are cool, though.
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kk man wontt happen again .............:laugh:
jimbridgman said:
Wow, what an ignorant little ****, you are.
There are 3 devs from India. Devesh, Ravikrang, and Turffe. ALL of the rest of the devs are from the US, and one is from Frankfurt, and even one from China.
alteredlikeness, Hashcode, lfaber06, lkrasner, rdavisct, timmytim, daavis, cogeary, myself, etc. are ALL from the US.
Wanggjhost is from China.
The thing is that devesh, is a great guy but he mostly ports ROMS from other phones, and does really do much "developing", so you can sort of throw him out, if you want to really count people who have actually done real development work on this phone.
So humm, sounds like there are so many developers from India on here (2), and I have not seen either one very recently, on here.
Just because there are a crapload of people, from India (right now) posting in the General and Q&A section asking the same questions without searching, over and over again does not make them devs.
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Ok now you seriously crossed your line.
* crapload of people, from India (right now)*
* so you can sort of throw him out*
Seriously? He has done way more than you ever did.
As for all the *devs* you mentioned "all from US" , only 2 of them do real development. Namely hash and altered. Rdavisct and daavis used to dev.. But that was long time ago.. So you can sort of throw out the rest (including and especially yourself). And you actually spoil their reputation. Considering how humble hash and altered are..
The one who actually brought a proper working aosp (including radio) based roms to this device was Wang. And I remember the way you posted in that thread.. All the skepticism.. The only thing you ever said before this was " I am working on ril" "discussing ril on XDA is not allowed"..
As for all that you boast about yourself, here is the truth. You are a big fake.. You have actually done no development for this device. The only thing was the Ubuntu on webtop hack. And I am not really sure how original it is..
The only things you say are
1. Some thing big is on the horizon/around the corner.
2. Give credit.
3. Cannot be done.
Here is one more thing. On the a2 you always said the bl is locked so you cannot do anything. I haven't seen you do anything for the s3.. That has an unlock able bl I guess..
"and I have not seen either one very recently, on here."
Really? I come here and post pretty much every day..
Oh and if there is something you are good at, that's starting flamewars. Since you no longer have the phone any more and posted your "goodbye" thread, here is a sincere request..
PLEASE LEAVE!
Nothing worthwhile has come from you.
Honestly, you are the reason this device's development was hampered.. Not the locked bl..
BTW, here are a few worthy things devesh has done.
1. Get hash, dtrail, altered and me in contact and hence get things moving. He is half the reason we have "official" cm today. It's not you.
2. He is the whole reason we have JBX. Dtrail1 doesn't own an a2..
And at the one who posted the other post, here is something you need to keep in mind.
There are Ppl from all over the world with different nationalities, gender, race, religion and everything else. So DONT POST ANYTHING ABOUT ANY OF THOSE MENTIONED.
P. S. And Ppl from any other nation, nothing personal. If I have hurt any of you in the above rant, my sincere apologies. I have respect for all nations.
Good bye.
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Qui posto il link
Solo RADIO
ROM e RADIO
i'dont have the kaiser. sorry
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Why are you releasing my ROM in a different file with "TEST" at the end? This pretends that it's an official HTC release or something.
You even copied the extra space that I mistakenly put in my Thread in my protocol version (25.81 .40.02H) instead of (25.81.40.02H). And, my updates and startup logo are in the ROM.
This I do not like very much...
AllTheWay and myself have had the radios on our 4shared sites since they came out. Sounds like he might have got it from the place we don't speak of.
thats one of the problems with Xda these days anything you put up is subject to people stealing and calling there own. Start taking out some rgu files so people can't recook what you make. I have stopped posting my roms here period its a nother sad day around here...
Thi has to be a joke. I cant imagine whats in the head of these guys who steals stuff, repost it and claim its their stuff. Thats insane.
I wonder if he didn't just get it from PPCW and post it here. Maybe he is not claiming it as his is what I am saying. Maybe thought he was just providing a service to everyone here by posting. HELL, I don't know, maybe he is reposting as his. Who knows.
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I wonder if he didn't just get it from PPCW and post it here. Maybe he is not claiming it as his is what I am saying. Maybe thought he was just providing a service to everyone here by posting. HELL, I don't know, maybe he is reposting as his. Who knows.
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Maybe yes, but it has the same name as NoThrills rom.
I accidentally found these links
I have posted them here even if I do not have interest because I have the trinity.
What is the problem?
Copyright?
I have made here for the good of the community.
Thank you for your kindness.
confortable costumer said:
I accidentally found these links
I have posted them here even if I do not have interest because I have the trinity.
What is the problem?
Copyright?
I have made here for the good of the community.
Thank you for your kindness.
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I just found it odd that someone would try this just after NoThrills released it. This proves to me he/she had good intentions. No harm no foul in my book.
confortable costumer said:
I accidentally found these links
I have posted them here even if I do not have interest because I have the trinity.
What is the problem?
Copyright?
I have made here for the good of the community.
Thank you for your kindness.
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If you're not to blame, you're not to blame. Could you tell me where you got this links though?
The main problem I have right now is that there have been over 1500+ downloads of my ROM, over 30,000 thread views, people are very pleased with it (generally speaking), and I have only seen 7 donations so far.
Out of which, 5 people are Germans! And then people still say that Germans aren't kind Furthermore there is one English person and one Greek person who have donated.
Seriously though, the donations are not important. However, it does bother me when I see my ROM, which I intentionally left 'open' for other cooks to look at, used as basis for other ROMs, or distributed on Hong Kong BBS's, Dutch usenet groups, Arabian websites, and those people are not sent here for information/help/thankyou's/donations, so I know that more people are enjoying it.
I don't mind people using this ROM as a base ROM. I left this ROM 'open' for a reason. I'm not here to make money. Just give credit where credit is due, that's all.
I don't want to cripple my ROMs so you can't easily re-cook them anymore, but I see it might be a neccesity.
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I just found it odd that someone would try this just after NoThrills released it. This proves to me he/she had good intentions. No harm no foul in my book.
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i absolutely agree. he didnt make a big bragging post about it. it seemed that he really put it here, just in case it would be of use to us. as he said, "i dont have a kaiser" at the bottom of his post. he seemed sincere about the fact he was just trying to help. dont kill the guy
NoThrills said:
If you're not to blame, you're not to blame. Could you tell me where you got this links though?
The main problem I have right now is that there have been over 1500+ downloads of my ROM, over 30,000 thread views, people are very pleased with it (generally speaking), and I have only seen 7 donations so far.
Out of which, 5 people are Germans! And then people still say that Germans aren't kind Furthermore there is one English person and one Greek person who have donated.
Seriously though, the donations are not important. However, it does bother me when I see my ROM, which I intentionally left 'open' for other cooks to look at, used as basis for other ROMs, or distributed on Hong Kong BBS's, Dutch usenet groups, Arabian websites, and those people are not sent here for information/help/thankyou's/donations, so I know that more people are enjoying it.
I don't mind people using this ROM as a base ROM. I left this ROM 'open' for a reason. I'm not here to make money. Just give credit where credit is due, that's all.
I don't want to cripple my ROMs so you can't easily re-cook them anymore, but I see it might be a neccesity.
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It is on the PPCW site.
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Nicely put kwill. ****, he probably didn't even know who cooked it so that he might give them credit. No-one has been harmed that I can see.
@NoThrills
Most are lurkers and not helpers/givers. Did you really expect to recieve a slew of donations? Most around here take take take and never give.
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Now that is crap in my book. The man just copied the links over from PPCW, hell yes I looked to verify it so sue me, and he gets abused for trying to help out. This forum has turned to ****.
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Thanks for removing the links, I don't blame you at all
so lets jump all over the guy/girl for trying to give back. what a crock of ****.
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see my post above. it is verified. this is **** in my book.
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@NoThrills
Most are lurkers and not helpers/givers. Did you really expect to recieve a slew of donations? Most around here take take take and never give.
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No, like I said, the donations are not important. A thank-you post is enough, but with all these 'custom' releases, people are not being redirected to XDA-Developers.
There's a reason I put a password on the file and only put the password on this board
But I do find it puzzling to see that over 900 WWE downloads, only 2 people donated, and for a 'lousy' 200 GER downloads, 5 people donated. Germans are cool in my book
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Now that is crap in my book. The man just copied the links over from PPCW, hell yes I looked to verify it so sue me, and he gets abused for trying to help out. This forum has turned to ****.
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I already sent the guy a PM telling him thanks for removing the links, and making clear I don't blame him at all. Just like I posted here.
NoThrills said:
No, like I said, the donations are not important. A thank-you post is enough, but with all these 'custom' releases, people are not being redirected to XDA-Developers.
There's a reason I put a password on the file and only put the password on this board
But I do find it puzzling to see that over 900 WWE downloads, only 2 people donated, and for a 'lousy' 200 GER downloads, 5 people donated. Germans are cool in my book
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I understand but the links he provided were from PPCW which is where over half of the stock roms come from around here. How the hell was he supposed to know who cooked it, if the link actually pointed to a cooked rom and not a stock rom, and everyone jumped all over him and all he was doing was trying to give back.
EDit:
please dont think i am jumping on you NoThrills. My rant has not been pointed at you at all. I just cant believe we demonized the guy and he was trying to give back.
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I understand but the links he provided were from PPCW which is where over half of the stock roms come from around here. How the hell was he supposed to know who cooked it, if the link actually pointed to a cooked rom and not a stock rom, and everyone jumped all over him and all he was doing was trying to give back.
EDit:
please dont think i am jumping on you NoThrills. My rant has not been pointed at you at all. I just cant believe we demonized the guy and he was trying to give back.
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Let's call it the nature of the beast. There has been a lot of BS going on in this forum now a days, and some of us are reactionary because of this. That's why we're all human guys we make mistakes now and then, I'm sure the OP understands this, we're all just trying to protect an original piece of work and give credit where credit is due. Sh*t Happens.
Ok, I'm confused.
NoThrills releases the same rom on PPCW with the radio and all named the same. Then, someone comes along, trying to be nice and give back and we jump them. Then NoThrills gets upset because no credit has been given and the donations don't add up like he/she wants. If the credit or the donations is what NoThrills was after then why not post on XDA only instead of posting to XDA and PPCW? Makes no sense to me. Please someone clarify for me.
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thats one of the problems with Xda these days anything you put up is subject to people stealing and calling there own. Start taking out some rgu files so people can't recook what you make. I have stopped posting my roms here period its a nother sad day around here...
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Say it isn't so!!!
So we should not expect any more masterful ROM's by you!
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Ok, I'm confused.
NoThrills releases the same rom on PPCW with the radio and all named the same. Then, someone comes along, trying to be nice and give back and we jump them. Then NoThrills gets upset because no credit has been given and the donations don't add up like he/she wants. If the credit or the donations is what NoThrills was after then why not post on XDA only instead of posting to XDA and PPCW? Makes no sense to me. Please someone clarify for me.
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Excuse me? I never have even *been* to PPCW! Why on earth would I post my ROM there? I love discovering stuff that sparks my interest. That is why I have visited XDA-Developers for years now. NoThrills is my alter ego because I need a disguise if I release these ROMs. I do *not* condone any way of piracy, hell, I have licenses for every single piece of software on my computer, mediacenter, laptop, etc.
I do not care for the donations. It's fun to get, true, but I am also very amazed at the size of some donations. $1/€1 is plenty, while some people (yes, I'm looking at you Germans and Greeks) are sending me amounts of €20,- or more. I did not expect that.
But back to the issue, because there is too much focus on the donations, which are not important here!
The point that got me 'upset' is that people are distributing these files everywhere, modified and all.
Why do you think the password is "i got this file from xda-developers.com" ?
Why do you think my compressed .exe says "Go to xda-developers.com for the password"?
Because I want people to come to this community. I want people to contribute to this community. I want people's minds sparked just like this forum has sparked mine. Don't you think that if it was all about the donations, I wouldn't have 'protected' my ROM for cooking?
So it took me many hours to figure this out, and I am sure there are some people staying up late at night trying to unlock there AT&T tilt's. You may succeed in unlocking your tilt, but what happened to your camera? Or what happened to your calls? Its all messed up right?
Thats what XDA developers would like to call, the "Radio". Your radio is not liking your phone so it acts up.
Long story short, start here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=375583 with the Kaiser unlock. Follow all of that mumbo jumbo than when your done, go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=421007. This second link is the original radio for your tilt that will pretty much restore the phone to its normal radio, yet keep your phone unlocked and kick BUTT!!!!!
Enjoy and if there is there is anybody you should donate to it would be either of those links
NOTE!!!!!! The second link can be performed ONLY on the AT&T tilt. Not the TYTN II, or any other type, just the Tilt.
Cheers M8's
Mods, can this amazing piece of insight and corresponding poll be stickied?
Ashame he doesn't have a donation tag.
how utterly amazing.........even though this is a well known fact >.>
hes just trying to help... and point some noobies to right direction..
but although it was a good gesture sage....... denco and kaiser are right..
everything you just stated could be found on the already sticked posts in this forum..
good intentions though bro!
Yup
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hes just trying to help... and point some noobies to right direction..
but although it was a good gesture sage....... denco and kaiser are right..
everything you just stated could be found on the already sticked posts in this forum..
good intentions though bro!
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Truth be told, I am a noobie just getting the hang of it all
the purpose of this thread was to save some people some time. I spent many hours on my phone, and once i found the solution, I decided to spread the word. If I did something wrong or could have posted this in a better fashion, than please, somebody let me know. Besides that.
Cheers!!
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Truth be told, I am a noobie just getting the hang of it all
the purpose of this thread was to save some people some time. I spent many hours on my phone, and once i found the solution, I decided to spread the word. If I did something wrong or could have posted this in a better fashion, than please, somebody let me know. Besides that.
Cheers!!
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no you did nothing wrong, and i to like your poll, but the mods might feel this thread is redundant because there are already thread/threads describing how to unlock a kaiser. i'm just glad your first thread was about this and not "which rom is best", i hate those
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no you did nothing wrong, and i to like your poll, but the mods might feel this thread is redundant because there are already thread/threads describing how to unlock a kaiser. i'm just glad your first thread was about this and not "which rom is best", i hate those
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Or named "HELP" i hate those always think something drastic has happend like there house is on fire or even worse the end of the world
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Or named "HELP" i hate those always think something drastic has happend like there house is on fire or even worse the end of the world
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so true it is, spreading the word my little girl will be born tomorrow morning
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so true it is, spreading the word my little girl will be born tomorrow morning
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Good for you , Congrats, I have four boys myself. As long as you won't be sleeping at night for the next two years or so, you can be up all night helping noobs discover how to unlock their phones
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Good for you , Congrats, I have four boys myself. As long as you won't be sleeping at night for the next two years or so, you can be up all night helping noobs discover how to unlock their phones
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lmao, when she gets her tom, that will be 3 kids for me 2 boys and a girl so spoon feeding i am use to.
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so true it is, spreading the word my little girl will be born tomorrow morning
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Congrats and good luck , i only have 2 boy & girl, any more and i'll have to buy that shed
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Mods, can this amazing piece of insight and corresponding poll be stickied?
Ashame he doesn't have a donation tag.
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I'm a newb. How do stickies and what not work?
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I'm a newb. How do stickies and what not work?
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He was being sarcastic and making a joke at your expense. Dont worry about it.
I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When I came to xda-devs, the iphone didn't exist. Android didn't exist. WebOS didn't exist. If you wanted a "smart phone" your choices were PalmOS, Pocket PC, and a few Symbian based offerings. It's quite possible that the expense and, for lack of a better word, elitism that went with these smart phones meant that "commoners" weren't using them. Especially, they weren't modding them.
In those days, devs were respected. There certainly wasn't this big entitlement feeling that every tom, ****, and harry feel they are owed today. This site was started and grew based on people wanting to develop for these phones. We wanted them to do more. For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good. The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.
It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.
I'm thankful to all of the Android devs for their work in rooting so many phones. Thank you HTC for making a phone that works so well, I'm not completely sure I need or want to root it. Thank you XDA for providing a location where we can COLLABORATE.
To all of you kids (either by age or maturity) look up the definition of collaborate, patience, and "common decency"). Please stop being rude, and or demanding... anything. We don't need 30 extra posts to tell us "I'm Not Happy about X" or "User Y is a dork". It's useless. Put it on your myspace page, people may care there.
And to the elitists, don't knock people for thinking of an idea that someone else already tried. At least they are thinking. At least they are trying. And hopefully, they'll learn and take on the next challenge in your stead.
XC
Here-here!
Appreciation > Ego
This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
I feel you pain, this place used to be a comminty of people all over the world, that were here to help. And we all shared one commen goal, to make our phones the best they could be. It really does sadden me to see what has happend. No body is owed anthing. and for some reson everyone feels like they are.
You used to be able to asked a question without getting flamed to death, people and devs would help you with any problem you had, and now..... its just ridiculous the way people are acting. Its not just here, its on all the android forums that i have seen. so dont think that its just here.
To everyone that has helped make this site the best, thank you. And to the rest of you, please leave go somwere else, your kind is not welcome here.
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This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
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This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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It happens on all forums, you will have fighting and issues and assholes appearing. Just got to deal with it, thats what moderators are for.
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This place is no different than any other forum, really. People are dicks everywhere.
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You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.
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Sad but true =/ I'm relatively new to xda, but I was really surprised about recent events, I never really expected something like that to happen on XDA.
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What happened? Someone reported something that was untrue? Or a bunch of people got excited about a sketchy report of root/a mod. That has happened a bunch on XDA. Stick around and it'll happen a bunch more. People make mistakes, hello! We had several overclocking threads that were false starts in G1/Dream. Guess what? People kept trying and eventually, it got done. The people who were *****ing, however, just produced more *****ing--and my my phone does not install non-market *****ing
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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You have a choice to make things worse or better. I can see what your choice is.
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I'm not saying it's okay to act like a ****, I'm saying it's largely a lost cause. I got sick of people acting like dicks on another, general-purpose, forum, so I left to try to find some place where people were civil. I gave up when I saw someone on an Android banned for rageposting over cell phone batteries.
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Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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It's here because everyone, in every area, needs to read it and take it to heart.
steb0ne said:
Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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Simply because this is where XDA lost face in the eyes of many yesterday. Its not just the sites fault though. Members had a lot to do with it. I'm sure because yesterday was a holiday is the reason it took some time for the Mods to get a handle on things.
I give thanks to the OP for posting here.
Thank you XDA!!!
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Ummm...but why is this thread in the development thread?
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I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
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I think it is very important to understand where xda came from. This site began with people that not only helped us mod our phones, but were willing to teach us to mod our phones. That way, when the next phone came out, you had more people working to mod the phone.
I put this in a developer thread because development is a large driving force behind xda.
XC
People need to learn to just report a thread instead of fighting over what's posted in it. Mods will help sort things out I'm sure. We all need to just work together on making this site better and learn from the mistakes of others. The Incredible's development will get better in time its a fairly new device if you think about it. IMO its very nice stock. Keep up the great work Devs and for those who don't dev do your part in making this site a place for ppl to want to come to share and learn.
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I realize this isn't the most correct place to post this, but apparently, everyone should read this.
I've been involved with the xda modding community for over 4 years. When ...
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Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.
I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.
I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....
Thanks.
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Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.
It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
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Sadly, I'm seeing these types of issues everywhere. The last 4-5 years has really created a new generation of people that think they can get away with saying whatever they want online, and get away with it. Think of it as the Myspace gen, if you will.
It's painful to say it, but honestly... it's not going to get any better.
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Generation T, as in toilet trained below the waist only. Their mouths seem to run constantly, and not even their spell checkers have been opened . . .
It's easy to bash wee tykes. Been happening since antiquity. Hard to root an Incredible, tho. We just need somebody to get a reman unit that still has a testing bootloader installed!
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....For the most part, if you didn't have anything to contribute, you understood to stfu. Even more important, if you saw a need, you worked to fill it. Many of the guys that started this community STARTED learning because of it. Sure, you'll have questions. Questions are good.
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Exactly right... And I'm one of those who kept my mouth shut as I read and learned here, respecting those who put forth the info that helped me...
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....The flaming of each other, the putting down of other sites, and the general dickery needs to stop.
It's sad that I look at xda with disdain these days. XDA has gone from a site that I spent most of my day on, and worked to assist where I could, to a necessary evil because I own an HTC device.
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I can say the same about Hofo (on which I go by a different name..)
I started there, reading, absorbing, learning.. To pay it back, I started helping others when/where I could. I eventually started a collection of instructions, and writing up info I digested to make it easier for new people to just dive in and learn to do it themselves. I even met (in person) someone I met on hofo, and we worked to create a set of repeatable processes to flash moto phones with non-VZW firmware.
I saw it go from a great site to learn, to a place you're going to get flamed, called names, disrespected, etc... Thankfully, the birth of my son took me away from my cell phone hacking and Hofo just at the right time.
As I visit this, hofo and other sites, I can't help but think they are all becoming the same... a bunch of people who feel entitled to have this or that NOW and if they don't get it, they gripe up a storm about it, call people names, etc..
Its sad.
Is it really getting that bad? I haven't signed into this site since my old PPC6700 days, so I haven't taken a look at the Entitled Generation posts, but I'll be sure to keep an eye out.
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Although I have not really posted here much, I have been around since the Palm Treo 650 days (loved that damn phone btw) and have always had a deep sense of respect for all the developers here who dedicate their time and efforts to making a smartphone more powerful and more useful outside the stock features. Being a member of the iPhone community for so long, I have had no reason to come to these forums for quite a while so I've been out of the loop. Now that I own a droid incredible, I was led back here by a simple "how-to-root your android" Google search. Since that time, I have seen a lot of commotion about the Incredible.
I am not and never will be able to develop, write code, or become a linux genius. I have been a linux admin for years, but never had a need or want to go into development. That being said, I have always respected those who have the ability to develop software, apps, images, etc.
I think the main problem on these forums now, is too many kids and too many people who expect something to be handed to them rather than be grateful for what they are given. Then again, that's pretty much anywhere you go in the world. The only thing we can do as a community is choose how we respond to these situations. Like adults....
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AMEN ! NOOBs need to read and research more rather than demanding everything be handed to them.
I think this thread is a bit dramatic. "What happened to XDA?" Well, nothing really. There's just a huge influx of new people who know just enough to be dangerous and really want root (and look at the average post count, mine is low enough but every other person I see discussing this has less than 20 posts). The Incredible is one of if not THE hot phone on the market, so I'm not surprised it's like a circus in here. Due to recent events that I will not dare mention, It's like the scene in Caddyshack when they let all the caddys swim in the pool and run all the "members" off. And over the weekend someone took a dump in the pool and caused mayhem/panic...
If the mods would get more strict - short temp bans for people who are very rude, and maybe also for people who can't stay on subject or at least delete the off subject posts, and get rid of all the "why is my battery life bad" threads then the Dev section may improve. Perhaps make a rule that says you can't post in this section unless you have a certain number of posts? I don't know. It was just a bad weekend. It will get back to normal.
I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
Let me start this by saying i am still a N00B, saying that Initially i was also annoyed with all those questions people were asking.. i myself started a new thread trying to clear few basic questions.. but as the time went by realised that the senior community was more harsh than anything else.. the more we teach the more we learn thats what say in my part of the world.. but i believe all is well, all that is needed is that you guys get into serious ICS development once the OTA arrives.. and <3 you guys..
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I need to make an apology. Another dev had to do this earlier and now it is my turn.
He was right. We are all a bit angry at people who are posting unnecessary things, but that is no excuse to be rude. I still maintain that this forum has one of the best communities, and I will not let anyone tell me otherwise. I started on this forum in april of this year. That is 4 months ago. Look what I have accomplished. I am nowhere near the level of some of our other devs, but I am so much better than I was then. I WAS a N00B. I was that person with a million questions.
I remember the first time I soft bricked. It was late at night and all of a sudden that beautiful boot animation that I just realized cold be changed started repeating itself after I tried to flash an update to scv5. I panicked. I opened up the lifehacker article on unbricking, posted a new thread with a stupid question, and I started to realize I had no money to buy a new phone. Bottom line is it was the end of the world for me.
But, thanks to all the wonderful people here, i got it fixed. My heartbeat was probably 200 while the fxz flashed, but I got it done
I now bootloop every other day practically. restoring is no problem. ICS was a whole different story, but that is not for here. That is when I had my first hardbrick. but once again thanks to the help of others I am now on scv7 with some mods to it.
To all of you who have posted stupid unnecessary things, and yes there are many I am sorry. as the Moderator Moscow Desire said in a PM after me posting a rude response that lead to me writing this "n00bs will always be at XDA. This is a fact of life. Yes, they post stupid things sometimes, and yes, they will always NEVER do a search or read other posts. It's always been like this. And yes, it gets frustrating at times."
We know you are out their. and we can try to stop it, but there will be people who do dumb things. But that is not an excuse for any of us to be rude to them. Those of us who are more knowledgeable about dev stuff should be helping those who aren't. My mom always told me in school that there will always be bosses you hate just like your teachers, and coworkers you hate st like your classmates, so you might as well learn to get along with them. She was right. we just need to get along. For us devs there is an IRC channel, and believe me we talk about this stuff, but we all get along well. so for the rest of us t needs to be the same.
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Yeah, but on the other side of the coin, if you are on XDA that means you are looking to experiment, you want to try new things, you need a fast and functional ROM or that mod you like so much or simply want to root it and then there are few who are here just to learn.
But for all this you gotta have few attributes
1. Guts
2. Little knowledge
3. Able to go through few threads before starting anything
4. And last but most important, knowing where the search button is.
This still a n00b saying this, dont get me wrong. I am here to learn, i am getting into it slowly but surely. Thanks to the devs.
Ps: this post os taken better in lighter vein!!!
Speak only when it improves on your silence.
I think it is a huge deal to see a post like this. Kudos to you, Ikrasner! You have been much help to everyone, along with the rest of the devs. Thank you all for your time!
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I guess one just has to realise that there are ppl here with different tech capacities. So knowledgeable ppl like u and the other magnificent devs should have a little more patience with us , the eternal the omni present n00bs... u guys are doing a great job !! keep it up!!! We ask stupid questions coz we are scared that the beloved fone will brick...we want to be 10 times sure that flashing will not render it useless...but still we do it ..coz everybody loves a kick!!!! I guess.. my take on this....
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Well it is really not patients that is the problem that we are all having at the moment. It is the fact that everyone now seems to think they are the ONLY one with a certain problem with x, and rather than posting in the thread that deals with x they make a new thread, and then when you ask why they did not search it is always "I searched, and none of the threads deal with MY exact issue".
The issue with this is that is shows a lack of respect for everyone in here, that might be working on an issue, and that person just bumped another thread that might have that or a similar issue in it, and now everyone is reading that new glowing orange thread on the board.
The next issue is that people have to trust us.
Next, it seems we have a new rash of noobs that don't want to listen and then still post a new thread when their issues is not solved in another thread and then keep bumping that thread if no one replies.
Again these are all thing that show alot of issues and lack of respect to your dev team, we are here to help, but the more you guys all help us, the more we can help you.
P.S. I had to post this same thread a few weeks back, because of all the frustrations as well.... see a pattern here.
I know what you mean, its like you cant even blink in this forum, without starting a witch hunt.
I just joined XDA not long ago and I too have noticed a lot of pointless threads. I admit I did post a stupid question before, but I found the answer myself and went back and changed my question. But I did not go and make a new thread about it. I think the issue is A. people are lazy in general, and B. There is so much to try and wrap your head around, and no one wants to brick their device. I only have 1 device and I would love to try experimenting with different ROMs and things, because I am constantly wanting a new phone. I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it. But I have that fear of bricking it and then I am screwed. So for now I will continue to search through different threads and try to learn as much as I possible can before I jump in and try flashing ROMs. I notice some people just try flashing ROMs without really any knowledge then post new threads with the issues that they have. If they would just take the time to read through threads prior to jumping in there would be less of this issue. I just want to Thank all the Devs here that put so much time into all the work they do here!! Definitely the best mobile dev community out there!!
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I have had the A2 for about 9 months now and I am bored with it.
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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dude i had the same ROM for 9 months before, without a single wipe, and i never got close to bored, the hw buttons messed up so i had to sell. your phone isnt your game console or gf ... its a phone, no offense
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
I have no idea what section I'm in or what you're apologizing for, but I love you too man.
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What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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TMI, me thinks.
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TMI, me thinks.
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FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
rdhoggattjr said:
FYI that was a joke. but i do hook my phone to my tv and use it as a game console with my PS3 controller
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I know, it was amusing. But the fact that you're feeling the urge for clarification makes me second guess that was a "joke". (I'm kidding)
That's what we need more of here, people with a sense of humor. I applaud you for that, hopefully the lighthearted approach will carry through with the other "business class" folk.
I sit in the back of the bus, that one being driven straight to hell, if you know what I mean...
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rdhoggattjr said:
What are you talking about! i make love to my phone all the time.
some people use there phone for more stuff then others. nothing is wrong with that.
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im not gonna lie me myself often sleep next to/on it but damn...
maybe if it was a sgs3
hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
shardul.phatak said:
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
athani said:
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
Archmag3 said:
Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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devilhunter47 said:
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.