now everyone has root what next - G1 Android Development

Now that everyone is happy to get root back. What do you think the next big thing coming for this phone is.
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I want to see something like OpenArena get ported :-D, or some game that actually uses the 3D power on this jawn!! Pref FPS and using the accelorameter.
Anyways, good looks to everyone who helped in getting this going, I was stuck with an unrooted rc30 for a minute!! thanks!!!

When I get time, I want to play around and see if any emulators can run and access the framebuffer without going through Java.
Plenty of the major console emulators (nintendo, sega, arcades, neo-geo, etc.) have been compiled to run on ARM processors already (GP2X/GP32). I'd love to see them on a G1, tho it might take doing the Debian thing to get to where they'd actually work.

Free sim unlock Or porting windows mobile

Yeah another 1+ for Windows Mobile on the G1.
More apps being developed that require root, (Home Today Screen) like WinMo....
Someone should just write out a list of things to do after root.

Can you WinMo-on-G1 guys keep your posts on this thread pretty please? That way the rest of us only have to ignore one thread.

I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.

What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?

jcostantino said:
I'm a little disappointed* that the pace of things is going so slow. I don't recall the timeline but when the iPhone was hacked, there were little programs popping out all over the place as people recompiled things for the OS.
*I'm not a programmer so I'm not going to tell others how to do their work. I presume native apps are coming and I'll be grateful when they get here at whatever pace.
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Let's see.... iPhone came out how long ago? They still don't have cut & paste? They still don't have MMS? They still don't have ...... A LOT
Yet you are worried about the pace we are seeing things? Sorry, but major problems are being resolved daily.

card13 said:
What about flash? Iphone has a little app that lets them use flash. When's ours coming?
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It's already been developed, just give it some time to actually be released.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghIGj9r3_vc&eurl=http://www.i4u.com/article21711.html

Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?

momentarylapseofreason said:
Here's a question; now that we are all free from forced OTAs....
Will we know when cupcake gets released?
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isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?

Our google friends are working hard we are developing a lot of thing at the moment if you hop on irc once in a while it filled with devs. G1 it juss take time u got to wait. I been trying to get copy and paste ported but it need to developed in the sdk better. I am also porting touchflo to g1, well a knock off verison lol.

I would like to see desktop widgets. Like an RSS reader, weather forcasts, and music player.

fgizzard said:
isn't that kind of a silly question?
how many times a day do you check these forums, or other android news sites?
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Is it really though? Granted, while we will all eventually get it, would you know if it was being pushed OTA right this second? Historically, one or two people got the OTA update and they announced it.
However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?

then youll have to wait a few days.

Check the t-mobile forums, nothing yet.

momentarylapseofreason said:
However, now that everyone has OTA blocked (minus the people that don't bother and also don't frequent boards)...who is going to tell us if Google doesn't post something up the very second it is available?
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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other

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There's alway the question of the dev phones. No OTA update for them anyway, and google is going to tell the devs to upgrade their phone. There will probably be some kind of announce on android-development mailing lists as well.
Don't worry, we'll know, one way or the other
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(Shaking hands & Jumping impatiently)
But I wanna know NOOOW

Our updates are blocked really? I honestly wondered if our phones downloaded the updates then tried installing the update or it sends the keys then updates. But the answer is not that important to search. As for things being done I believe Jf recompiled busybox from 1.8 mb to 700k and linked it to the system. That's a big step forward

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Confirmed Sprint Hero EclairUpdate

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Did you know your Sprint Hero will be getting Eclair early next year? Well...now you do! Happy Friday ladies and gents
I don't think anyone was questioning if. Its when.
yea, i wasnt ever concerned whether we were going to get the update, but rather the time frame in which we would.
confirmatory tweets are always welcomed though
Looks like it won't be for several months.
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/6579730326
"Happy to announce Android 2.0 is coming to Sprint’s Hero & Moment. Date TBD, but roughly 1H 2010."
1st half.... not even 1st quarter!!!
masterface said:
Looks like it won't be for several months.
http://twitter.com/sprint/status/6579730326
"Happy to announce Android 2.0 is coming to Sprint’s Hero & Moment. Date TBD, but roughly 1H 2010."
1st half.... not even 1st quarter!!!
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Might as well have just said "it'll come out eventually", haha.
Hahahaha
Lets see 1H 2010, ususally the updates run about 2 time periods behind when they say that they will be available... so looking somewhere around 1H2011...
By that time, the development work for 2.1 here in XDA-Developers will already be done and all of us will be looking forward to the next release.
I wonder why the Moment is being held up on the 2.0 release, when it's just vanilla Android. I really didn't think they were going to give us that broad of a timespan though. I figured January would be the latest that we'd have 2.0. So unless Google makes some changes, there's a good chance we won't be using their newest apps for a long time (officially anyway). By the time we get 2.0, Droid will be running 4.5 .
as long as we get 2.1 here first and i can brag about it for a whole before anyone else has it, im happy lol.
nelson8403 said:
twitter.com/htc
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Did you know your Sprint Hero will be getting Eclair early next year? Well...now you do! Happy Friday ladies and gents
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Thank you for your post. I've read in more than one site questions regarding IF the sprint hero was getting Eclair even some doubters. Good job
daveli said:
Thank you for your post. I've read in more than one site questions regarding IF the sprint hero was getting Eclair even some doubters. Good job
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HTC has affirmed that we will be getting an update on more than one occasion now, but you're right, a reminder and an update from them is always welcome. I just wish we could keep talks of this in a single thread.
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I just wish we could keep talks of this in a single thread.
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*cough*we need a mod*cough*
But, thanks for the update...I really wanna try some of these apps that need Eclair!
1H 2010? Really? Talk about vague. I may go back to big red for the Passion if we don't see it very soon.
I love Sprint, and my Hero, but let's be real.... almost every Android phone on the market will be LIGHT YEARS ahead of us if it takes more than a couple months at most.
While I agree that it isn't cool to toy around with us...specially since we'll still be behind when the update hits most likely. But still...I don't think that not getting an update warrants hopping the fence haha.
but then again, I cannot even really use that since I "hopped the proverbial fence" after my girlfriend dumped me and haven't looked back...if you get my drift haha
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While I agree that it isn't cool to toy around with us...specially since we'll still be behind when the update hits most likely. But still...I don't think that not getting an update warrants hopping the fence haha.
but then again, I cannot even really use that since I "hopped the proverbial fence" after my girlfriend dumped me and haven't looked back...if you get my drift haha
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I think it's a perfect reason to hop the fence, show sprint that we want our updates, we can't do anything on 1.5 .. no nav, no goggles, nothing new and exciting, i'm fed up and i would rather start over with a new phone.. than wait for sprint to get off their lazy behinds and feed us something that should have been out already
nelson8403 said:
I think it's a perfect reason to hop the fence, show sprint that we want our updates, we can't do anything on 1.5 .. no nav, no goggles, nothing new and exciting, i'm fed up and i would rather start over with a new phone.. than wait for sprint to get off their lazy behinds and feed us something that should have been out already
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Or keep your eyes peeled for the 2.0-ish roms we have in the works here, there's a decent chance we'll be fully up and running by the time the other phones get their official update. But by all means, "stick it to the 'man'..." and cancel your service. It's your prerogative. I personally don't see the need. I like my sprint service and I like my sprint hero. /shrug
obelisk79 said:
Or keep your eyes peeled for the 2.0-ish roms we have in the works here, there's a decent chance we'll be fully up and running by the time the other phones get their official update. But by all means, "stick it to the 'man'..." and cancel your service. It's your prerogative. I personally don't see the need. I like my sprint service and I like my sprint hero. /shrug
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See, I don't think Sprint will have an update for us until about May (I just have a feeling on this). In light of that, I'm definitely looking at the development on the 2.0/2.1 ROMs in the other threads...those look like they will be ready way before Sprint updates us.
Just an update on this, link.
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Just an update on this, link.
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Now if one of these "testers" would just leak a build to us...
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Just an update on this, link.
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Thanks, that's good to know! I was just wondering (for the 5 millionth time) how things were progressing.
So... who do you think is in the lead now, HTC devs or Sprint? My $ is still on you guys. God only knows how long the testing phase will actually be.

SIM Cardless Optimization

I'm an early adopter of the N1. My G1 will now only have wifi connectivity and I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use. I think the desire for that kind of optimization will only grow as people start replacing their first loves. I might be completely off-base, I have been up for a couple days. I'm not even sure what I want when I say optimization. But I didn't know what I wanted from custom roms when I got my first G1 and now I can't wait until Cyanogen drops his first full rom for the N1.
I see where you are comming from.. as I LOVE my G1 and at the same time lusting for the N1. I would like to have another use for the G1, something like a media center remote.. or anything.
I think this is a good idea and look forward to some of the dev responses.
You dont need a special rom for it without service. If you dont have service then phone and the like just wont work. Uninstall what you dont want. But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
furthermore - wrong section
garok89 said:
i dont really see the point of that tbh - you can change the call button to open something else for example
furthermore - wrong section
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lol.. OMG dude your sig is so right. I used to love helping people with anythign electronicall or software related... Since I joined here I realized, noone wants help... they want someone to hold their hand and do it for them. Bunch of ungreatfull spoiled brats.
Sorry, but this will get moved or deleted anyway lol
thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
garok89 said:
thanks dude
if you like that then you will love my autoreply for emails to [email protected]
email me there and you will see it (yes im the idiot who decided to help people who are apparently idiots coz most ask the same bloody questions that have been answered in a million threads before)
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Classic! I love the auto-response...
crypysmoker said:
But there arent going to be any devs making roms just for g1 without service, it is a complete waste of time. There wouldnt be anything different, minus no phone.
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If the device no longer needs to maintain the functionality of a phone, the door is even wider open. It could, for example, be a rom with debian cooked in, or it could be something like no6969el described.
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Really? This is not the place to discuss a certain type of rom?
I think the both of you are too closed minded.
you are asking a question, not contributing to the good of the android community
they answer is simple - yes...but pointless
i am far from close minded - i am always up for expanding the capabilities of my phone....not detracting from them like this idea
you can use the phone as a media centre remote with the aid of a simple app on the market
you can disable mobile data and use only wifi
you can reprogram the call button to do whatever you want
you can install debian/ubuntu rather easily and use it with vncviewer
all these things can already be done using stock android - nevermind having to modify it
Nothing I have said or asked has detracted from android. Asking questions has its place in development, it causes thinking. Re-purposing old gen hardware happens, sometimes with fantastic results. First generation android devices, like the G1, have many possibilities other than telephony.
I am wondering if there are any roms that are optimized for non-phone use.
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i do believe that is asking a general question
anyway, i am not here to argue... i just feel that the original question belonged in the QnA section

New Home Screen Alternatives

I checked the first 3 pages of the forums and didn't see this posted.
Here are some upcoming home replacements for Android. One name that should be familiar to us old WinMo users and a "newcomer."
http://www.tat.se/home/
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/pre...gs-support-for-symbian-and-android-along.html
they both look pretty cool but I think tathome looks like it might be a little more to my liking.
SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.
+1 for TAT home it looks like it could be NICE I checked out the video (good music and all ;-)) here: http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/15/tat-home-the-gesture-powered-3d-home-screen-your-android-device/
I used SPB Mobile Shell 3.x with my Touch Pro and I wasn't too impressed.
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Here is a video of Mobile Shell http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/mwc-video-spb-mobile-shell-50-on-android IMO Mobile Shell is suffering from what it always has LAG!!!!! Even on the N1 it looked slow, maybe because it's BETA.
Negrito said:
SPB isnt out yet, is tathome available yet, i didnt see a download.
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I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.
koricua74 said:
I don't think it's out yet either. You can sign up for the preview here http://www.tat.se/home/ They said that "more information" will be sent later.
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i signed up, thanks. good find.
I signed up as well hope I get to test.
wtphoto said:
I signed up as well hope I get to test.
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same here... looks like something to test at least...
Looks cool! I signed up for the TAT preview.
Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.
Fird said:
Hrm, TatHome looks like what I envisioned Android 'should be' , I'm liking the look it quite a bit!! Next: to find out whether it really runs that smoothly on my Hero. 3d and graphics are great, but if it slows my phone down in the slightest its automatically going to get turned off.
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cant imagine that it would slow it down anymore than sense but time will tell
muahaha, smooth as an iph*ne, and yet still kicking the pants off of it in terms of functionality = complete win for Android.
See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?
mrinehart93 said:
See, this is why Android is better, and why most everyone here bought an Android phone Since mostly everyone here probably signed up for that preview, the first person that gets the .apk for this, can you please post it up here incase they delay the preview to some people?
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+1 on this but at the same time this is why some dont want to develop for android
Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.
mrinehart93 said:
Why would it make them not want to develop for it? Because some devices have different specs? I'm just curious.
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Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents
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Yes there are a lot of different spec'd Android phones out there but I think he is referencing the fact that Android apps are easier to "warez" than the apps on other OS's. All you have to do is sign up for the paid app extract the .apk post it somewhere. Also any dev can try to "reverse engineer" the app, change a few components and BAM it's on the Market as their "original" creation. Just my .2 cents
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that is correct. when swype was first leaked I was actually talking to them about the bennifits of releasing it through the market instead of through manufacturers and one of the biggest concerns that was brought up was the fact that security for apps is too lax. now dont get me wrong everyone knows that for every security mesure there is always a way around it but android security just sucks thats why for the most part people afften have a free version and a donate version. if people can try it and like it then they are more likely to buy it rather than just pirate it. setcpu is a perfect example of this. sure the dev could have made it a protected app (but being a member here at xda he probably knew it was pointless) but he offers it free here and then if you like you can buy from the market to donate to help keep him developing.
so basically all im saying is...ok we all (me included) have pirated apps but if you like the app make sure to go buy it from the market and help keep these people developing for us.
I know I went off on a rant there but without intrest in app development this great platform will fail.
I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.
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I might be the only here without pirated apps then haha. I did have CoPilot once, but I didn't like it much so I got rid of it. The only time I ever use something pirated is to try it. If I like it and feel the developer should get credit, then fine, I'll donate/buy it.
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same here the only thing I am using pirated right now is swype but thats only becuase there is no way to buy it. but thats also because im a cheap ass and maily use free apps unless I really find something useful but to date the only things that I have bought are setcpu and beautiful widgets. im trying cachemate now but it really doesnt seem to be very helpful. I wish I knew a little more about programing there is an app for the iphone that I would love to have on my hero.
i played around with "pandahome" some yesterday. it seems beta right now but they are apparently coming out with pandahome2 soon. it's a good idea, just not quite finished yet. (fc's and whatnot)
anyway you might go check it out (if your feeling froggy).
lots of options and skins ect.ect.ect.
marketplace. free.

Updating Captivate to Android 2.2 while rooted.

We all know the Captivate is getting its official 2.2 update in a few months.
My question is, since I rooted my Captivate, will I have to do anything special to update? Or, will I just be able to manually check for updates and It will install automatically from there?
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Seriously?
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I'm an android noob as well and would like to know too.
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boborone said:
Seriously?
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Yes seriously. This is my first personal Android phone.
I would LOVE to see you come into the car audio world and do what I do.
i want to know too, so yea seriously
What a jerk
I don't know if you can update under settings or not, but if you are rooted I would wait for an official CM6 mod. I would think it would another month or two before that comes out.
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Yes seriously. This is my first personal Android phone.
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When we flashed an old ROM on my buddy's G1 and rooted it, we didn't update the phone... he downloaded an OTA update and it flashed the new version to his phone successfully and removed root access. Had to do it all over again
I'm guessing the Captivate will be much the same, however if you are concerned you can always unroot the phone when AT&T/Samsung/Your favorite tech blog let you know OTA updates are being pushed to the Captivate.
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Seriously?
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I was actually wondering if he was serious. Been so many topics with this discussed in them. Didn't know if he was serious or playing around.
To the OP, I don't know jack bout android, contrary to what you think, but I do read, read and read some more. I had my first fuze for about three months before I got another to start playing with. Before I even got the phone I was reading up on it and learning. So I read and learned winmo for about 6 months before I got on to flashing.
I've been reading about android for the past couple months, been reading bout the captivate for the past week. I must say, about 25% of the topics I read talked about froyo, and at least 4 outa 5 times, someone asked this question. Not to mention all the threads that started with this same question.
So maybe I wrote too fast with my response, but really in my head I was curious if he was serious. This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
bassahaulic said:
I would LOVE to see you come into the car audio world and do what I do.
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I except your challenge
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I except your challenge
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OH snap! Throw down the gauntlet.
In all seriousness, you can remove root so it will never be a problem. Lets just wait and see what happens.
bassahaulic said:
We all know the Captivate is getting its official 2.2 update in a few months.
My question is, since I rooted my Captivate, will I have to do anything special to update? Or, will I just be able to manually check for updates and It will install automatically from there?
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Ok really an OTA update for a phone should be no different from a Bios Flash on a PC, as the BIOs flash rewrites primary data to default settings so should the OTA update flash. So when 2.2 froyo flashes the OTA update it should in fact rewrite the phone rom to a default state and return the phone to all stock unrooted settings and return all bloat ware.
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I except your challenge
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boborone said:
I was actually wondering if he was serious. Been so many topics with this discussed in them. Didn't know if he was serious or playing around.
To the OP, I don't know jack bout android, contrary to what you think, but I do read, read and read some more. I had my first fuze for about three months before I got another to start playing with. Before I even got the phone I was reading up on it and learning. So I read and learned winmo for about 6 months before I got on to flashing.
I've been reading about android for the past couple months, been reading bout the captivate for the past week. I must say, about 25% of the topics I read talked about froyo, and at least 4 outa 5 times, someone asked this question. Not to mention all the threads that started with this same question.
So maybe I wrote too fast with my response, but really in my head I was curious if he was serious. This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
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Good story....so how much space did you just waste? I'm sure everyone is thankful for your input, I read the forums everyday and have yet to see a definitive answer on weather or not we'll get OTA updates after we fiddle with our phones. My Nexus could not, I assume the Captivate can't either. I guess we'll have to flash back to stock to receive carrier updates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....cus that was the point of this thread right?
big99gt said:
Good story....so how much space did you just waste? I'm sure everyone is thankful for your input, I read the forums everyday and have yet to see a definitive answer on weather or not we'll get OTA updates after we fiddle with our phones. My Nexus could not, I assume the Captivate can't either. I guess we'll have to flash back to stock to receive carrier updates. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.....cus that was the point of this thread right?
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Its all speculation until we see something tangible. Everyone just needs to know we're gonna get that Froyo OTA update installed one way or another.
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Ok really an OTA update for a phone should be no different from a Bios Flash on a PC, as the BIOs flash rewrites primary data to default settings so should the OTA update flash. So when 2.2 froyo flashes the OTA update it should in fact rewrite the phone rom to a default state and return the phone to all stock unrooted settings and return all bloat ware.
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Is this true?
boborone said:
I was actually wondering if he was serious. Been so many topics with this discussed in them. Didn't know if he was serious or playing around.
To the OP, I don't know jack bout android, contrary to what you think, but I do read, read and read some more. I had my first fuze for about three months before I got another to start playing with. Before I even got the phone I was reading up on it and learning. So I read and learned winmo for about 6 months before I got on to flashing.
I've been reading about android for the past couple months, been reading bout the captivate for the past week. I must say, about 25% of the topics I read talked about froyo, and at least 4 outa 5 times, someone asked this question. Not to mention all the threads that started with this same question.
So maybe I wrote too fast with my response, but really in my head I was curious if he was serious. This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
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I am one of the lurkers...it's true, we're out there reading. I have never asked even one question (I think) from back to two years when I had a winmo Treo750 to HTC Fuze to Captivate now. Read the forums and educate yourself.
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This place used to make people have an account for so long before posting, and even longer before you could start a thread. It was for the spammers, but used to make people read. Not sure if thats still in effect, but it sure doesn't seem like it. Look at the guys whove been here for 1, 2, 3 years even and have less than fifty posts, what do you they are doing?
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LOL Obviously you are not following your own advice under a year with over 150 posts!!! LOL Maybe you should do more reading and less posturing?
I am guilty as well of asking a ton of questions ans starting threads moat of which are answered without the lecture....,,,,Every forum has the self appointed "Forum Police" Apparently now even some have have "cadets in training"
Guys, FROYO (2.2) hasn't been released officially for our Captivates! But no, if you're talking about OTA updates then no, they will not work on our rooted Captivates well. Sometimes you may be able to register an update but it will fail if you are rooted but for MOST captivates it won't even get that far.
Personally, OTA updates are really unreliable so I'd either wait for someone on the dev section to grab it and make it usable for Odin, since that's easier for me and I can reinstall the software if something bad happens.
And no, a new firmware/ROM for our phones isn't like a BIOS update. I'm not sure how the process goes in depth but I'm pretty sure it just installs over the existing software and (if required) changes some settings deep in the phone's bootloader if necessary. Obviously a 2.2 or any other OS upgrade would mean the phone wipes the device first, which is one reason why OTA would not work.
Hope I answered everything?

PadKite™ : The first multitouch mobile mouse.

Hi xda-developers,
We are about to launch PadKite in the Android market and we are currently collecting feedback from real users. Beta version now available for download at padkite web-page. As a new user we are not allowed to post links, please let us know your feedback on the application. You can also subscribe to our Beta Program. We are eager to hear your opinion.
PadKite is also an excellent app for tablets so we are also looking for people to test it on their tablets. Whether your multitouch device is a phone or tablet. Your feedback is very important to us. For any questions, please reply to this post or contact us at PadKite Contact us.
More about PadKite™: PadKite™ is the first multi-touch mobile mouse created to manage the tiny content on our cellphone screens. Never fumble or miss a target again. Breeze through favorite websites in a flash with customizable multitouch gestures. Post media and text to Facebook, Twitter, and blogs, all at the swoop of a fingertip.
Wow! This looks like an awesome tool!
There's only Éclair and Froyo versions available though, I'm running custom Gingerbread on my N1.
I tried running the Froyo version on my N1 anyway, but it Force Closes as soon as trying to open the app.
Any ETA on a Gingerbread version? I'm quite eager to try your product!
They said a GB compatible copy will be along soon.
I really wanted to try it but it force closes on me.
Always wanted to tryout multi-touch...
nice stealth edit trololol...
Sounds interesting, I'll check it out.
Link: http://padkite.com/
Hmm i dont trust this app i just installed and accept the agreement then nothing and why so big for a simple mouse app? 14mb
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ngagephone said:
Hmm i dont trust this app i just installed and accept the agreement then nothing and why so big for a simple mouse app? 14mb
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They included the complete libwebcore.so in there effectively including a complete web browser in their so called mouse driver. What up with that?
Just sitting and clapping my hands :]
looks wonderfulll .. Did anyone try it already ? does it seem safe and real?
btw: So I've understood that it is a browser like dolphin and others. .. does it include Flash? (btw does it have hebrew as other browsers?)
Hi xda-developers,
Hope you are enjoying flying the web with PadKite, the first multitouch mobile mouse.
Yes, it is a web browser. It includes extended Webkit libraries that makes it heavier. Hopefully these will be able to be submitted into the WebKit build on the near future. The application does not include Flash for the moment and does not run on top of the OS or other applications. As a new concept we are starting small running as a stand alone browser aiming to grow bigger. We are braking the mold on multi-touch interaction and that has to be gradually. As you might have notized it has a lot of potential.
Currently we are making adjustments in order to run in all versions. This requires a lot of effort however it will allow PadKite to run in almost all devices. If you want to run on a Gingerbread version, let us know via our contact form and it will be delivered shortly.
Some users have experienced problems with Android versions of FRG83D and FRG83. We are currently looking into this and we will come up with a solution shortly. If you have problems, running PadKite on your Froyo, please contact us via our contact form too or join our beta program. We need as much information as possible from our users (especially your Logcat). Also, take part in our beta program and you will be the first to get updated on new versions.
Please follow PadKite on Twitter and get up-to-date info on new builds at padkite account.
Thanks for helping us make PadKite even better!
Cheers,
Jose Vigil
RoamTouch CEO
looks great, I'm looking forward to trying it when its available for Gingerbread.. also it would be great to get the adobe flash integration working.. But looks like a great concept, original and useful.
Bumping this, as it is a clear winner as a productivity tool, but so few people seem to have heard about it. I'm a huge fan, and that's based on only having seen the videos, as well as it partially working on a mate's Xperia X8 (the X8 lacks multi-touch, so is unable to take advantage of some of the more powerful features, such as text-selection via second finger-rotation, although as a pointer it works perfectly)!
Hoping they get back to me soon with an offer into the Beta program, as I'm dying to get this app! Also hoping they take it further, and fast, so that it becomes an integral Android feature, rather than just a browser tool.
This is a game-changer, people, so get on board and bring your family and friends!
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Bumping this, as it is a clear winner as a productivity tool, but so few people seem to have heard about it. I'm a huge fan, and that's based on only having seen the videos, as well as it partially working on a mate's Xperia X8 (the X8 lacks multi-touch, so is unable to take advantage of some of the more powerful features, such as text-selection via second finger-rotation, although as a pointer it works perfectly)!
Hoping they get back to me soon with an offer into the Beta program, as I'm dying to get this app! Also hoping they take it further, and fast, so that it becomes an integral Android feature, rather than just a browser tool.
This is a game-changer, people, so get on board and bring your family and friends!
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Don't hold your breath on this one buddy. I gave up. I recieved 6 APK's from the dev...not one of the worked. FC every time. I was working on it with him for quite a time, and it never worked. Seems to only work on one or two phones.
Won't be holding my breath, but certainly won't be abandoning hope! If those who have been able to get it working could post details of which model phones they have, as well as the models that haven't worked, plus current Android version, the devs might be able to narrow the issue down. Not sure if I'm able to start a new thread, being a noob and all, so if people could list the following in this thread it would go a long way towards getting us what we want:
Phone model
Android version (stock or rooted)
Whether it worked or not, and if not, at what stage it crashed, plus any further comments.
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Won't be holding my breath, but certainly won't be abandoning hope! If those who have been able to get it working could post details of which model phones they have, as well as the models that haven't worked, plus current Android version, the devs might be able to narrow the issue down. Not sure if I'm able to start a new thread, being a noob and all, so if people could list the following in this thread it would go a long way towards getting us what we want:
Phone model
Android version (stock or rooted)
Whether it worked or not, and if not, at what stage it crashed, plus any further comments.
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Send the dev any info you like...it didn't help. I was in contact with him for a few weeks. I don't 'abandon hope' unless it's time to abandon it. After emailing back and forth for a few weeks, then not hearing back from the dev for the last 3 months, I would say it's abandonment time.
You do what you want, and I'll do what I want, and never the twain shall meet.
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You do what you want, and I'll do what I want, and never the twain shall meet.
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Well thank you SO much for your diplomacy. You must be new here. I was just sharing my findings. Did you even notice the last post before you necro'd this crappy app...was from Feb??? There is a reason for that.
Good luck with getting things figured out around here.
Crappy app, perhaps, but only in terms of its failing to work for most who've tried it thus far. The idea itself is a brilliant one, I believe!
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Crappy app, perhaps, but only in terms of its failing to work for most who've tried it thus far. The idea itself is a brilliant one, I believe!
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95% of brilliance is implementation.
I can think of a bazillion good app ideas...but making them actually work is where the real skill is. I am upset with padkite because they seem to have spent all this time on making a website and sharing the idea...then they spent 2 minutes actually BUILDING the app...and it's garbage.
This looks fantastic. I downloaded and try to join beta program, to improve your software.
And 14mb is nothing, nowdays phones have 1gb or so of ROM space. Or move it to SD card.
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95% of brilliance is implementation.
I can think of a bazillion good app ideas...but making them actually work is where the real skill is. I am upset with padkite because they seem to have spent all this time on making a website and sharing the idea...then they spent 2 minutes actually BUILDING the app...and it's garbage.
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Are you suggesting that they faked the videos of padKite working on the Motorola (Droid?) phone? Because unless they did indeed fake the videos, then they had the app working on at least one phone! Obviously more than 2 minutes were spent, and I'm guessing the problem to be overcome is actually a rather minor yet befuddling one.
As stated earlier, I've seen padKite partially working on a mate's Xperia X8, so we aren't talking vaporware, here. Please, Mean Mr Mustard, change your heart and let hope in, and encourage others to do the same, instead of working against what you've already acknowledged is something good enough to upset you by virtue of not working for you.
There must be some out there who've been able to get padKite at least partially working. Chime in, fellows, and let's make this fairy well again!

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