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i've heard that changing a certain line in the media_profiles.xml file on the nex7 allows 720p recording thru the front cam. will this work with the P3113 (7-inch)? sorry, i cant try right now, i haven't actually bought the tab yet. having just vga isn't a dealbreaker, but 720p is definitely a nice hack.
heres the post for the nex7 hack:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1868962
thanks a lot,
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Not gonna happen. The P3113 from camera is 0.3MP
The largest image size supported by VGA camera is 640 x 480
640 x 480 = 307200
Divide it by 1000000 (or 1048576 for purists) and round off appropriately to get the value in MegaPixels
307200 / 1000000 = 0.3072 or 0.3 (rounded)
Not capable of 720P images.
The rear camera is capable
okay. i think i might just wait for the galaxy tab 3, since it might come out at the end of the month.
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okay. i think i might just wait for the galaxy tab 3, since it might come out at the end of the month.
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Yeah, I don;t care, if I am going to take a quality video I will use my camera not a tablet. Better lens, better sound, better everything
DigitalMD said:
Yeah, I don;t care, if I am going to take a quality video I will use my camera not a tablet. Better lens, better sound, better everything
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Yeah, that's true, only problem is you cant video chat w/ a point&shoot cam, and its not all that likely that I will be carrying an extra camera with me all day. Oh well.
So we can tweak the camera for better resolution.......
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sickysticky said:
So we can tweak the camera for better resolution.......
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Yes. steps follow>
1. Get drill and drill out current camera, make a hole big enough for a larger camera with more pixels.
2. Epoxy new camera in place.
3. Remove motherboard and solder in new camera.
4. ........................
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thejrcrafter2 said:
Yeah, that's true, only problem is you cant video chat w/ a point&shoot cam, and its not all that likely that I will be carrying an extra camera with me all day. Oh well.
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There's a video chat program that supports and actually transmits 720P on Android.?
DigitalMD said:
Yes. steps follow>
1. Get drill and drill out current camera, make a hole big enough for a larger camera with more pixels.
2. Epoxy new camera in place.
3. Remove motherboard and solder in new camera.
4. ........................
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There's a video chat program that supports and actually transmits 720P on Android.?
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Lol... good one...:thumbup::sly::thumbup::beer:
Or tape a lense to the tab... but I was thinking back while my optimus v was getting cm7.2 the resolution for camera was increased significantly, but that was the devs cranking through hours of codes.
But still.....:what:good idea
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Thanks for the how-to digital. Looks simple enough. I may try it :beer:
Lol
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Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Google Pixel 2 XL come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Am I the only one worried with video quality of the Pixel 2?
From what I'm seeing on YouTube the last couple of days, stabilization is GREAT but the actual quality is sadly just not good. Especially when panning, it's not as smooth as say the iPhones or Galaxy devices. Tons of artifacts and jitters.
Any chance these aspects can be improved later with software updates? :\
Have any of you read about the Secret Pixel Visual Core Processor that Google said it installed in both the Pixel 2 & XL 2 that they have not activated yet which incorporates HDR+ and machine learning algorithms that can be updated through future updates. It is supposed to be activated with the 8.1 Android update. Apparently it's a stand alone chip from the 835 Snapdragon that has it's own cores & ram dedicated to the camera. It's supposed to be 5 times faster than Qualcomm chip while only using 1/10 of the power. So basically it's supposed to take the camera to the next level while being even more energy efficient.... ? Sounds great to me, can't wait to see this in action!!!!
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Have any of you read about the Secret Pixel Visual Core Processor that Google said it installed in both the Pixel 2 & XL 2 that they have not activated yet which incorporates HDR+ and machine learning algorithms that can be updated through future updates. It is supposed to be activated with the 8.1 Android update. Apparently it's a stand alone chip from the 835 Snapdragon that has it's own cores & ram dedicated to the camera. It's supposed to be 5 times faster than Qualcomm chip while only using 1/10 of the power. So basically it's supposed to take the camera to the next level while being even more energy efficient.... ? Sounds great to me, can't wait to see this in action!!!!
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Yep it will be impressive.
Also we are able to take hdr+ pictures in 3rd party apps with the activated Pixel Visual Core SoC
Im really looking forward to get my device and the 8.1 Update haha
I am particularly interested in low-light videos of both devices and the audio quality. From a few samples i could check on YouTube i suspect problems with the noise suppression at least on the XL. Trying to assemble examples in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...ght_and_audio/
Soo.. get your samples out to the world!
Another bad thing i am noticing is they audio quality when record video. Its noise cancelling makes audio quality horrible...
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recorded video audio quality To me at least the Pixels sound much better than the iphone
I got around to testing the 2 XL vs the original XL, and for the most part the 2 XL exceeded the original in every way. But the Dual IS, optical and electronic, really messed up when mounted to my car. The original one was buttery smooth.
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I got around to testing the 2 XL vs the original XL, and for the most part the 2 XL exceeded the original in every way. But the Dual IS, optical and electronic, really messed up when mounted to my car. The original one was buttery smooth.
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I thought the video recording quality wasn't as good as my original Pixel XL when I went into the Verizon store yesterday 10/21/17 but I noticed that when you have the 1080p video option on, when the camera app is launched, before pressing record you have to change the fps from 30 to 60 in the on-screen settings to the left of the video screen. When I did that it basically mirrored my original Pixel XL except the picture quality of the XL 2 is of course naturally better. I'm sure with the update it'll exceed all other competition.
My only question is can the note 8 camera be ported into the XL 2? Because I loved the zoom while viewing a recorded video feature, which neither the XL not XL 2 pixels have.
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I thought the video recording quality wasn't as good as my original Pixel XL when I went into the Verizon store yesterday 10/21/17 but I noticed that when you have the 1080p video option on, when the camera app is launched, before pressing record you have to change the fps from 30 to 60 in the on-screen settings to the left of the video screen. When I did that it basically mirrored my original Pixel XL except the picture quality of the XL 2 is of course naturally better. I'm sure with the update it'll exceed all other competition.
My only question is can the note 8 camera be ported into the XL 2? Because I loved the zoom while viewing a recorded video feature, which neither the XL not XL 2 pixels have.
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I'm sure there is some way to port it over. I'd be surprised if the app hasn't already been extracted.
Honestly, video means so much to me and so far, what I'm seeing on YouTube looks pretty bad. The stabilization looks promising, but the actual quality is poor. Very noisy, bad frame rate drops and jitters. Still photos might be class leading but video looks worse than my Oneplus 5 at the moment.
I hope they'll be able to improve it significantly
I mean.. just look at it. It's a shame that the Pixel 2 is doing so well in still images but video has been completely neglected. Okay, good stabilization and all, yes. But why have good stab with such quality? what for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gbqXSzVDMM
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Another bad thing i am noticing is they audio quality when record video. Its noise cancelling makes audio quality horrible...
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I noticed this too. Wasn't sure if it was my unit or in general, as I've not read any complaints. I posted (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/help/strange-sound-feedback-video-recordings-t3693360) a vid I shot w/2XL and a vid from wife's iPhone.
I tested another unit in Verizon and same distortion was there. A replacement is coming, but I'm not optimistic.
My video quality is great
I am extremely happy with the video quality now. I recently made a video. Watch at 4k. Personally I think its pretty amazing for youtube. Hard to tell the difference between this and several thousand dollar 4k cameras. Audio on the other hand is ABSOLUTE garbage and I cant connect my external mic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNk1Blop2Sk
Here is a twilight shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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ph0b0z said:
I am particularly interested in low-light videos of both devices and the audio quality. From a few samples i could check on YouTube i suspect problems with the noise suppression at least on the XL. Trying to assemble examples in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...ght_and_audio/
Soo.. get your samples out to the world!
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here is my sample.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodS07Naa40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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I am extremely happy with the video quality now. I recently made a video. Watch at 4k. Personally I think its pretty amazing for youtube. Hard to tell the difference between this and several thousand dollar 4k cameras. Audio on the other hand is ABSOLUTE garbage and I cant connect my external mic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNk1Blop2Sk
Here is a twilight shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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here is my sample.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodS07Naa40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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Yeh the video is great but your audio is not good. It sounds like too much noise cancelling.
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here is my sample.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodS07Naa40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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Thanks a lot (already found one of those via youtube search ). The low light looks really good.. but the 2 XLs audio.. :/ Sizewise I'd only buy the 5" Pixel 2 anyway, but i still hope that this is fixable with a software update and not a problem with the microphones. LG is certrainly capable of good audio recording.
However, not to capture this thread or anything, but i am more certain every day, that this is only an issue with the 2 XL. I couldn't find many samples that are from the Pixel 2, but non of them have these audio issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxzV1PPFb-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViiOlVpDLhs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XwDv73PJ8
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recorded video audio quality To me at least the Pixels sound much better than the iphone
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Oof.. don't you hear the hissing noises when he is talking and the weird bubbly noises in the 'suppressed' background noise? Sounds like he is under a glass bell sometimes..
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Oof.. don't you hear the hissing noises when he is talking and the weird bubbly noises in the 'suppressed' background noise? Sounds like he is under a glass bell sometimes..
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so it's a treble or mic issue that can be fixed through software update. Video looks amazing on P2XL from all the videos shown. Remember this is a video quality thread not an audio quality thread. And honestly I didn't hear it until you said something about it and I cranked my soundbar to hear it.
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so it's a treble or mic issue that can be fixed through software update. Video looks amazing on P2XL from all the videos shown. Remember this is a video quality thread not an audio quality thread. And honestly I didn't hear it until you said something about it and I cranked my soundbar to hear it.
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I agree although most video makers will say that audio is more important than actual video quality. Most people will turn off a beautiful video that has bad audio. I personally wouldnt care 2 cents about the audio quality if I could get my external mic working but I cant get any mic working on this phone. Itll only record with the internal mic which just suuuucks. The bass is completely missing and it amplifies high hissing and clanking sounds. Sorry I got off track there lol. The video quality really is the best I have seen in a phone. Not surprised it got the best video score on DXO mark. I plan to use this as my main camera when I make an overseas trip in a few months. This paired with a few moment lenses and a gimbal will make incredible cinematic video.
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Here is another test i did. I think it shows the difference in dynamic range and noise between the two phones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTh7Bi-0WiM&t=2s
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I noticed a lot of noise the first few days with the pixel 2 HOWEVER it seems like most of it has gone away. Ive never experienced that happening before. Its almost like the sensor needed to warm up or something IDK. Its seems to be rocking the low light now that I have had it for a week.
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I agree although most video makers will say that audio is more important than actual video quality. Most people will turn off a beautiful video that has bad audio. I personally wouldnt care 2 cents about the audio quality if I could get my external mic working but I cant get any mic working on this phone. Itll only record with the internal mic which just suuuucks. The bass is completely missing and it amplifies high hissing and clanking sounds. Sorry I got off track there lol. The video quality really is the best I have seen in a phone. Not surprised it got the best video score on DXO mark. I plan to use this as my main camera when I make an overseas trip in a few months. This paired with a few moment lenses and a gimbal will make incredible cinematic video.
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Here is another test i did. I think it shows the difference in dynamic range and noise between the two phones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTh7Bi-0WiM&t=2s
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I noticed a lot of noise the first few days with the pixel 2 HOWEVER it seems like most of it has gone away. Ive never experienced that happening before. Its almost like the sensor needed to warm up or something IDK. Its seems to be rocking the low light now that I have had it for a week.
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The more I think about it, maybe it has something to do with google assistant and it being able to hear you from across the room? Could it be software issue where google assistant shouldn't be able use that mic while in video mode? Just a thought.
The fact that pixel2 has no the audio issue worries me it can be 2 xl microphone issue. Both should run same sw.
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Hi everyone I have looked for different sites to find answers but i couldn't find anything on this topic.
Samsung Galaxy S9 and S9+ both can record at 960fps which is the same as Sony Xperia XZ premium. But is the recorded video really 960frames?
Since both the phones can only record 0.2seconds of super slow motion videos that means that in that amount of time it only records 192 frames. Thus when played back at 30fps you get 6seconds of slow motion video.
You can also record 1080p at 240fps when you are in Slow Motion mode
Isn't this like a gimmick where people actually think that they are recording at 960fps when they are actually recording only 192frames. If the super slow motion really recorded for 1 second than that would be a true 960frames video.
Can someone create an app where we could maybe enable 1 second of video recording instead of 0.2seconds? Or create an app where you can record instantaneous slowmotion video straight after another?
Or create an app where you can record 720p at 480fps?
I have already preordered s9+ and i was lucky enough to get hands on experience exclusively at the samsung store in the mall where they had different colors of s9 and s9+ demos. I can't wait to recieve mine on 12th march
An app that enable 720p480 FPS sounds better than 960 FPS at 0.2 seconds.
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Can someone create an app where we could maybe enable 1 second of video recording instead of 0.2seconds?
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Its a limitation of the frame buffer on the sensor, with sony you can only record like .1 second so its not any better.
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Isn't this like a gimmick where people actually think that they are recording at 960fps when they are actually recording only 192frames. If the super slow motion really recorded for 1 second than that would be a true 960frames video.
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The RATE is still 960fps (960 frames per second) even if it's recording less than 1 second of video.
I guess OP doesn't understand what frames per second means? It's a framerate, not a specific frame count. No one promised a specific frame count, and it's a pretty pointless metric to worry about anyway. Unless, maybe you're concerned about file sizes. In which case it would be relevant, as more total frames means a larger video file.
Framerate determines the quality of the slow motion capture, frame count is just a combination of framerate and the video capture duration. They made it explicitly clear that the super slow mo is 960fps for 0.2 seconds. I honestly have no idea what the point of OPs post is.
Can anyone tell me where the setting is to do slow mo in 1080p?
Has anyone else noticed that while attempting to record in super slow mode on the SGS9+ the videos are VERY dark?.
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how many fps we get with normal slow motion mode?
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ok. found the answer myself ... http://www.samsung.com/in/support/skp/faq/1144177
why they couldnt combine the "normal" slowmotion (240fps) with 0.2sec of 960fps ?? i hate when superslomo time is up and the video continue in fullspeed....
Is there anyway to use super slow motion on videos after they've been recorded at normal speed?
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Has anybody else experiences a "zoom" when you go into super slow motion mode? or is it just me?
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Its a limitation of the frame buffer on the sensor, with sony you can only record like .1 second so its not any better.
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With Sony you could record a period of 0.182 seconds (or about a fifth of a second) in 960fps in 720p a year ago. And 0.182 seconds & 0.2 are pretty much the same & you get the same 5-6 seconds slow-mo video. Samsung does it now in 720p while Sony is doing it in full HD (1080p).
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droidrev71 said:
Can anyone tell me where the setting is to do slow mo in 1080p?
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Not possible. Only 720p is available.
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dmarco said:
Has anyone else noticed that while attempting to record in super slow mode on the SGS9+ the videos are VERY dark?.
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It's very well known fact. 960fps is not some ordinary thing. Camera sensor needs a lot of light to do it as shutter speed is too fast.
Outside lighting is the best, electrical lighting tends to pulse as the fps is faster than the electrical pulse.
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With Sony you could record a period of 0.182 seconds (or about a fifth of a second) in 960fps in 720p a year ago. And 0.182 seconds & 0.2 are pretty much the same & you get the same 5-6 seconds slow-mo video. Samsung does it now in 720p while Sony is doing it in full HD (1080p).
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Not possible. Only 720p is available.
It is possible to do it in 1080p at 240fps.. I was just asking for the setting which I found long ago.. 720p is 960fps
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It is possible to do it in 1080p at 240fps.. I was just asking for the setting which I found long ago.. 720p is 960fps
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Thought you were asking about 960fps in 1080p.
Hello i've just moved to this device couple days ago.
I noticed that the slowmo video is horribly dark.
Anyone experiencing this?
How to fix this problem?
Thank you in advance guys
It's not the fault of Oneplus or 6?
Super-slo-mo means super-short-exposure, so you need a larger lens opening (which you can't do in a cellphone) or more light.
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A couple of points:
- the video is relatively low res, only 720p
- you need super good lighting. Think about it for a moment. At 440 FPS you have a crazy fast shutter speed. You’re going to need good lighting conditions to get anything decent.?
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
subhani said:
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
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I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
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So did he record that first part in 4k 60fps WITH stabilization? Because it looks VERY smooth, audio was excellent and picture very naturally crisp. If the answer is yes, how come the other dude from the UK, in the first clip couldn't enable EIS?
BTW, audio recording is superb as per the opening piece in this video:
When the portuguese guy starts running I was mesmerized by the stabilization...
They're using pre-production units, perhaps the phone that UK lad got wasn't as ready as the other one? Let's wait and see how the actual production phones work... Can't wait!!
Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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subhani said:
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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Switch on subtitles in your language.
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Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
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Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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oooooooooh, SNAP!!! true that!! I did not realize that simple fact, thanks!
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
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The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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I'm probably going to get this phone. 50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though. I hope 100,000 open+closes is the actual number. My LG G2 still gets use from a family member, so I could see it being an issue.
Either way, in real world it'll probably vary wildly between users and individual phones when it breaks (or not).
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It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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Chigz Tech Reviews additionally show us what SW version they tested in previous video and what updated SW version they tested in today's video.
So we can see that not all reviewers had their tested phones on the same SW version.
It is a pity that most reviewers doesn't bother to told us what SW version they tested, this is a pleasant exception.
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TheCookieButter said:
I'm probably going to get this phone.
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Me too
TheCookieButter said:
50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though.
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Forget that number from their marketing department and just imagine what their engineers said: 28 selfies daily for 5 years.
For me that is pretty enough.
And do you know that even traditional DSLR Cameras have a shutter life? I know that it is something different mechanically, but it doesn't last forever too.
https://www.quora.com/Is-this-true-...-that-shutter-count-the-camera-become-useless
subhani said:
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
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in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
Onepunchbro said:
in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
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Yeah, the stabilization at 4K60 is impressive.
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that. It's not that difficult to spot. People shouldn't look perpetually sunburned and I can't imagine anyone thinking it looks good as opposed to the overall saturated quality to both pictures and video which some people prefer for whatever reason. It's also strange that videos appear so different to pictures. You'd think they'd have similar tuning.
So Asus either need to give the option or just fix it. Any competent reviewer will mention how off the colors are.
Trixanity said:
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that.
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Asus knows about it, but the fix isn't out yet.