Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Google Pixel 2 XL come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Am I the only one worried with video quality of the Pixel 2?
From what I'm seeing on YouTube the last couple of days, stabilization is GREAT but the actual quality is sadly just not good. Especially when panning, it's not as smooth as say the iPhones or Galaxy devices. Tons of artifacts and jitters.
Any chance these aspects can be improved later with software updates? :\
Have any of you read about the Secret Pixel Visual Core Processor that Google said it installed in both the Pixel 2 & XL 2 that they have not activated yet which incorporates HDR+ and machine learning algorithms that can be updated through future updates. It is supposed to be activated with the 8.1 Android update. Apparently it's a stand alone chip from the 835 Snapdragon that has it's own cores & ram dedicated to the camera. It's supposed to be 5 times faster than Qualcomm chip while only using 1/10 of the power. So basically it's supposed to take the camera to the next level while being even more energy efficient.... ? Sounds great to me, can't wait to see this in action!!!!
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Have any of you read about the Secret Pixel Visual Core Processor that Google said it installed in both the Pixel 2 & XL 2 that they have not activated yet which incorporates HDR+ and machine learning algorithms that can be updated through future updates. It is supposed to be activated with the 8.1 Android update. Apparently it's a stand alone chip from the 835 Snapdragon that has it's own cores & ram dedicated to the camera. It's supposed to be 5 times faster than Qualcomm chip while only using 1/10 of the power. So basically it's supposed to take the camera to the next level while being even more energy efficient.... ? Sounds great to me, can't wait to see this in action!!!!
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Yep it will be impressive.
Also we are able to take hdr+ pictures in 3rd party apps with the activated Pixel Visual Core SoC
Im really looking forward to get my device and the 8.1 Update haha
I am particularly interested in low-light videos of both devices and the audio quality. From a few samples i could check on YouTube i suspect problems with the noise suppression at least on the XL. Trying to assemble examples in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...ght_and_audio/
Soo.. get your samples out to the world!
Another bad thing i am noticing is they audio quality when record video. Its noise cancelling makes audio quality horrible...
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recorded video audio quality To me at least the Pixels sound much better than the iphone
I got around to testing the 2 XL vs the original XL, and for the most part the 2 XL exceeded the original in every way. But the Dual IS, optical and electronic, really messed up when mounted to my car. The original one was buttery smooth.
Robert_W said:
I got around to testing the 2 XL vs the original XL, and for the most part the 2 XL exceeded the original in every way. But the Dual IS, optical and electronic, really messed up when mounted to my car. The original one was buttery smooth.
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I thought the video recording quality wasn't as good as my original Pixel XL when I went into the Verizon store yesterday 10/21/17 but I noticed that when you have the 1080p video option on, when the camera app is launched, before pressing record you have to change the fps from 30 to 60 in the on-screen settings to the left of the video screen. When I did that it basically mirrored my original Pixel XL except the picture quality of the XL 2 is of course naturally better. I'm sure with the update it'll exceed all other competition.
My only question is can the note 8 camera be ported into the XL 2? Because I loved the zoom while viewing a recorded video feature, which neither the XL not XL 2 pixels have.
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I thought the video recording quality wasn't as good as my original Pixel XL when I went into the Verizon store yesterday 10/21/17 but I noticed that when you have the 1080p video option on, when the camera app is launched, before pressing record you have to change the fps from 30 to 60 in the on-screen settings to the left of the video screen. When I did that it basically mirrored my original Pixel XL except the picture quality of the XL 2 is of course naturally better. I'm sure with the update it'll exceed all other competition.
My only question is can the note 8 camera be ported into the XL 2? Because I loved the zoom while viewing a recorded video feature, which neither the XL not XL 2 pixels have.
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I'm sure there is some way to port it over. I'd be surprised if the app hasn't already been extracted.
Honestly, video means so much to me and so far, what I'm seeing on YouTube looks pretty bad. The stabilization looks promising, but the actual quality is poor. Very noisy, bad frame rate drops and jitters. Still photos might be class leading but video looks worse than my Oneplus 5 at the moment.
I hope they'll be able to improve it significantly
I mean.. just look at it. It's a shame that the Pixel 2 is doing so well in still images but video has been completely neglected. Okay, good stabilization and all, yes. But why have good stab with such quality? what for?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gbqXSzVDMM
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Another bad thing i am noticing is they audio quality when record video. Its noise cancelling makes audio quality horrible...
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I noticed this too. Wasn't sure if it was my unit or in general, as I've not read any complaints. I posted (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/help/strange-sound-feedback-video-recordings-t3693360) a vid I shot w/2XL and a vid from wife's iPhone.
I tested another unit in Verizon and same distortion was there. A replacement is coming, but I'm not optimistic.
My video quality is great
I am extremely happy with the video quality now. I recently made a video. Watch at 4k. Personally I think its pretty amazing for youtube. Hard to tell the difference between this and several thousand dollar 4k cameras. Audio on the other hand is ABSOLUTE garbage and I cant connect my external mic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNk1Blop2Sk
Here is a twilight shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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I am particularly interested in low-light videos of both devices and the audio quality. From a few samples i could check on YouTube i suspect problems with the noise suppression at least on the XL. Trying to assemble examples in this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...ght_and_audio/
Soo.. get your samples out to the world!
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here is my sample.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodS07Naa40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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I am extremely happy with the video quality now. I recently made a video. Watch at 4k. Personally I think its pretty amazing for youtube. Hard to tell the difference between this and several thousand dollar 4k cameras. Audio on the other hand is ABSOLUTE garbage and I cant connect my external mic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNk1Blop2Sk
Here is a twilight shot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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here is my sample.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodS07Naa40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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Yeh the video is great but your audio is not good. It sounds like too much noise cancelling.
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here is my sample.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YodS07Naa40
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODRupXk8I5I
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Thanks a lot (already found one of those via youtube search ). The low light looks really good.. but the 2 XLs audio.. :/ Sizewise I'd only buy the 5" Pixel 2 anyway, but i still hope that this is fixable with a software update and not a problem with the microphones. LG is certrainly capable of good audio recording.
However, not to capture this thread or anything, but i am more certain every day, that this is only an issue with the 2 XL. I couldn't find many samples that are from the Pixel 2, but non of them have these audio issues:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxzV1PPFb-M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViiOlVpDLhs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8XwDv73PJ8
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recorded video audio quality To me at least the Pixels sound much better than the iphone
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Oof.. don't you hear the hissing noises when he is talking and the weird bubbly noises in the 'suppressed' background noise? Sounds like he is under a glass bell sometimes..
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Oof.. don't you hear the hissing noises when he is talking and the weird bubbly noises in the 'suppressed' background noise? Sounds like he is under a glass bell sometimes..
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so it's a treble or mic issue that can be fixed through software update. Video looks amazing on P2XL from all the videos shown. Remember this is a video quality thread not an audio quality thread. And honestly I didn't hear it until you said something about it and I cranked my soundbar to hear it.
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so it's a treble or mic issue that can be fixed through software update. Video looks amazing on P2XL from all the videos shown. Remember this is a video quality thread not an audio quality thread. And honestly I didn't hear it until you said something about it and I cranked my soundbar to hear it.
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I agree although most video makers will say that audio is more important than actual video quality. Most people will turn off a beautiful video that has bad audio. I personally wouldnt care 2 cents about the audio quality if I could get my external mic working but I cant get any mic working on this phone. Itll only record with the internal mic which just suuuucks. The bass is completely missing and it amplifies high hissing and clanking sounds. Sorry I got off track there lol. The video quality really is the best I have seen in a phone. Not surprised it got the best video score on DXO mark. I plan to use this as my main camera when I make an overseas trip in a few months. This paired with a few moment lenses and a gimbal will make incredible cinematic video.
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Here is another test i did. I think it shows the difference in dynamic range and noise between the two phones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTh7Bi-0WiM&t=2s
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I noticed a lot of noise the first few days with the pixel 2 HOWEVER it seems like most of it has gone away. Ive never experienced that happening before. Its almost like the sensor needed to warm up or something IDK. Its seems to be rocking the low light now that I have had it for a week.
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I agree although most video makers will say that audio is more important than actual video quality. Most people will turn off a beautiful video that has bad audio. I personally wouldnt care 2 cents about the audio quality if I could get my external mic working but I cant get any mic working on this phone. Itll only record with the internal mic which just suuuucks. The bass is completely missing and it amplifies high hissing and clanking sounds. Sorry I got off track there lol. The video quality really is the best I have seen in a phone. Not surprised it got the best video score on DXO mark. I plan to use this as my main camera when I make an overseas trip in a few months. This paired with a few moment lenses and a gimbal will make incredible cinematic video.
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Here is another test i did. I think it shows the difference in dynamic range and noise between the two phones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTh7Bi-0WiM&t=2s
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I noticed a lot of noise the first few days with the pixel 2 HOWEVER it seems like most of it has gone away. Ive never experienced that happening before. Its almost like the sensor needed to warm up or something IDK. Its seems to be rocking the low light now that I have had it for a week.
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The more I think about it, maybe it has something to do with google assistant and it being able to hear you from across the room? Could it be software issue where google assistant shouldn't be able use that mic while in video mode? Just a thought.
The fact that pixel2 has no the audio issue worries me it can be 2 xl microphone issue. Both should run same sw.
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Anyone used the Z3 at a gig yet?
My wife has the Z1C and she went to a gig a few weeks ago, when she got home she was devistated as the videos she took sounded awful, everything was distorted/clipped
Does the Z3 improve on this?
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Anyone used the Z3 at a gig yet?
My wife has the Z1C and she went to a gig a few weeks ago, when she got home she was devistated as the videos she took sounded awful, everything was distorted/clipped
Does the Z3 improve on this?
cheers
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The Z3 does have various recording modes (for loud environments, normal environments, and another one). Haven't had the possibility to test it yet, but hope it helps indeed. Common problem with many phones including the Z1, Galaxy series, LG G2 (Lumia 920/930, HTC One and iPhone are exceptions).
If there is a proper way to test it without going to a concert I'd give it a try but living in a flat I can't really turn up the volume that loud
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The Z3 does have various recording modes (for loud environments, normal environments, and another one).
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are these automatic?
I cannot find any settings/apps for these
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are these automatic?
I cannot find any settings/apps for these
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Standard is auto yeah, you can change it in the general settings. Settings -> sound settings -> microphone sensitivity.
So not in the camera app...
I tested it in auto mode recording one of my drum students playing along to loud music & it was absolutely on par with my htc one m7 & lumia 925. Stereo recording & good mics DO indeed make a difference!
Brilliant, thanks
Awesome, having a concert on the 27th so I'll be sure to give it a try there as well...
OK, just got back from seeing Bryan Adams at the Leeds Arena last night, I was on the 4th row so it was a good test for the camera
here's what I found:
there's slight clipping in the audio, however, after running it through Adobe Premiere, I found out that it's only in the right channel, the left is a brilliant recording so I removed the right and made it mono, turns out this mic on the camera is brilliant for audio at a concert, if you are happy to remove one of the channels
HOWEVER
the video is truly awful, it never focused (he had spotlights on him all the time so was well lit), tried 1080p & 4k, both were terrible, luckily I had a QX30 with me so I tried that for 30 seconds and that was fine so I have a little bit of video that's OK. Touching the screen to focus did nothing.
Conclusion: brilliant audio totally let down by the video making it unwatchable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceVN98kllNo
Hmmm, audio isn't too bad indeed (not great, but so much better compared to Z1 for example) but sucky about the focus issue... Gonna check it out myself as well. Going to a concert tomorrow so I'll see if I can shoot something there as well...
Thanks for the update!
Here's a clip I recorded last night with the Audio Recorder app.
That focusing prob def sucks. What were your settings for focus mode & metering?
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That focusing prob def sucks. What were your settings for focus mode & metering?
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WB Auto, EV 0
that's all I can change in 4K
In 1080p, try center metering & different focal settings - like object tracking, etc... Maybe you'll have better results? 4k is rather restricting re: settings.
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This is a video I recorded last week at a metal show. Microphone sensitivity set at the lowest. Please don't mind the resolution, I uploaded it straight from my phone.
Eluveitie - Thousandfold (live @ effenaar): http://youtu.be/KXoRtxZnfGA
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In 1080p, try center metering & different focal settings - like object tracking, etc... Maybe you'll have better results? 4k is rather restricting re: settings.
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cheers, but wanting to stick to 4k where possible, it's one of the reasons i went for this phone rather than sticking with the Nexus 5
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This is a video I recorded last week at a metal show. Microphone sensitivity set at the lowest. Please don't mind the resolution, I uploaded it straight from my phone.
Eluveitie - Thousandfold (live @ effenaar): http://youtu.be/KXoRtxZnfGA
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Impressive sound & focus imo. What resolution did u record at?
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Impressive sound & focus imo. What resolution did u record at?
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I recorded it at 1080, automatic everything. I just set the microphone sensitivity at the lowest before I went and it is a good thing that I did because it was LOUD.
I have another video from the back of the venue. I am uploading it right now to share. The sound is even better but with the first one I was about 5 meters from the PA. Stay tuned!
Edit: The second video is here. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYK49bGWLbE&feature=youtu.be
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I recorded it at 1080, automatic everything. I just set the microphone sensitivity at the lowest before I went and it is a good thing that I did because it was LOUD.
I have another video from the back of the venue. I am uploading it right now to share. The sound is even better but with the first one I was about 5 meters from the PA. Stay tuned!
Edit: The second video is here. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYK49bGWLbE&feature=youtu.be
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Very good video & sound quality & solid band!
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I recorded it at 1080, automatic everything. I just set the microphone sensitivity at the lowest before I went and it is a good thing that I did because it was LOUD.
I have another video from the back of the venue. I am uploading it right now to share. The sound is even better but with the first one I was about 5 meters from the PA. Stay tuned!
Edit: The second video is here. Enjoy!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYK49bGWLbE&feature=youtu.be
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Cheers! Proper sound indeed, focus is still a bit off... Hard to test though (and you also don't want to be busy messing with your camera too much, you just want to enjoy of course )
Thanks, guys! About the focus: the light tech loooved using the blinders and flashing all the things (insert appropriate meme) so I am actually amazed at the focus there is. ☺
But as you said too, I was busier with drinking wine with my friends and headbanging than fiddling with the camera. ?
But folkmetal is an awesome test imo. Loud, lots of low and plenty of details in the mid and high.
I film and record a lot of music and I'm very pleased with my choice of phone!
Your friends are never going to believe what you did. The only way to prove it to them is with that video you took. Rate this thread to express how videos shot on the Google Pixel XL come out. A higher rating indicates that videos are smooth (and not choppy) and that auto-focus works very well, and that the camera adjusts quickly to different lighting conditions while recording.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
So far I'm highly impressed with the video quality. Comparing the 4k to Samsung for instance they both take really good quality videos. (and huge videos). But the fact that the Image Stabilization on this blows away the competition and it's SOFTWARE based is INSANE. One of the first things I did after I got the phone set up was to walk upstairs while filming 4k and then quickly moving back down them and the optical stabilization (although it gets slightly bumpy on the way down from how fast I was moving) it was the best I've ever seen on any phone.
Link to stairs video: https://goo.gl/photos/nzou3EhDnm96vbAe8
Video in low light is practically useless with so much noise
video comparison vs popular phones
The news today says Google will fix the one thing annoying me. The Halo Effect
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The news today says Google will fix the one thing annoying me. The Halo Effect
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I have not had any halo effect, seems like I am in the minority
This is a video of Metallica Concert in San Juan, PR, 10/26/16. The video is supposed to be 4k but only shows up at youtube as a 1080p, not sure why.
https://youtu.be/jinJAzYQsKA
why 6p video quality in low light is better than pixel?
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8345&idPhone2=7260&idPhone3=7588
and
http://www.gsmarena.com/vidcmp.php3?idType=5&idCamera1=300333&idCamera2=300332&idCamera3=300288
I'm impressed
Video quality in 4K with anything other than direct sunlight is pretty disappointing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X0mzZsaJOM&feature=youtu.be
When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
Sorry to link to reddit, but I mainly post on reddit.
I also made a comparison of the videos in low light. Here is the thread if you guys are interested:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel...eo_quality_is/
I just feel like the more information out there on this issue the better.
So far in test videos the mic sounds really muffled.
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When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
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What were the settings on both cameras for each video?
Took a video at night low light conditions
Looks like a white bug on the video .
But it's just noise from the camera not a bug.
Tried again Dave enjoy bug thinking about getting unit replaced.
Has anyone else noticed this effect?
It bounces stuff on screen when I'm recording.
My wife's low light video (S8 Plus) and daughters 7 Plus) crap on my Pixel XL.
Guys, is anybody annoyed with the twitchy autofocus? I was shooting on S7, ois was not comparable with Pixel's eis, but autofocus was 100% accurate and lightning fast, you won't be able to notice it working. What's wrong with Pixel's AF? Is it curable?
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Guys, is anybody annoyed with the twitchy autofocus? I was shooting on S7, ois was not comparable with Pixel's eis, but autofocus was 100% accurate and lightning fast, you won't be able to notice it working. What's wrong with Pixel's AF? Is it curable?
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I'm wondering the same thing.
I came from a Nexus 6P and the video on the latter was just brilliant!!! Specifically to low light video, it was crystal clear!!! I do a lot of metal shows records and this is very big for me...
The minute I got the XL, tried a low light video record, wow, what a disappointment!!! The video in low light and even in mid light, has a sort of smudge, like grey halo or if lens are not clean up and adding to that there's a lot of noise in the video. I did not record anything from concerts, but I'm very apprehensive... I did not expected this... not after having a 6P and knowing that this phone is one year more recent than the 6P.
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When you go indoors the quality goes down tremendously.
Here is a quick comparison I did between the Pixel XL and the Nexus 6:
Nexus 6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWhoCGFh_JA
Pixel XL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dwmw33M98
The desk area looks fine, but looking around the room the quality is horrible.
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I just saw this and this is the exact problem that I experience when recording in low light!!!
I also learned on google products forums, that using a 3rd party app to record video, using a different ratio/resolution can help a lot!!!
For instance, with Open Camera, if recording a video in 1440x1080 resolution (it stays at a 4:3 ratio, the same aspect when taking a photo at 12.3 MPixel) then the recording is so much better!!! The bad of Google Camera is that it's not possible to change in between many video recording resolutions. Also, in Google Camera, 4K video recording is a little better than 1080p, because it doesn't have the grey/smudge halo.
If only knew this and my 6P didn't had the battery shutoff problem, I wouldn't never get a XL !!!!
The video recording is pretty good, I usually record at 720p60 and even though it's not the sharpest video I've ever seen, it's decent.
Though at 4K it looks great, but I don't see a big improvement from the Nexus 5X which I come from.
Supersaf says "Google has ignored video quality, iPhone is far better for video... sound from the Pixel is tinny"
https://youtu.be/S9qNHYtNsik
There's definitely yet another Pixel sound problem going on in his video. Question is, is it just near range sound that's the problem (as is evidenced in his video) , or is it all sound?
Here's a direct comparison with the iPhone. The pixel's sound is terrible. How could they ship something this bad?
https://youtu.be/CQZo9SKj1zI
I received my Pixel 3 XL today and I just noticed that the sound is pretty bad while watching videos. I also have the iPhone XS Max, and that phone sounds amazing. On the Pixel 3 XL, the bottom speaker is noticeably louder than the top speaker, so while watching a video in landscape, it just doesn't sound right...it's really bad. I don't know if this will be a deal breaker for me or not, I'll have to try it for a few days and make up my mind. I also have tried the Note 9 and IMO, it sounded about as good as the iPhone XS Max. I have to say, I am a little disappointed in the sound quality of the Pixel 3 XL. Oh yeah, the vibration on the back of the phone is ridiculous also. If you had ear plugs in and felt the back of this phone, you would think that it has a pair of 12" Kickers inside.
Edit...I just tried my iPhone XS Max again, and the sound coming out of the speakers absolutely destroys the Pixel 3 Xl's sound, it's not even close. I wonder if Google can fix this with a software update? Probably not.
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I received my Pixel 3 XL today and I just noticed that the sound is pretty bad while watching videos. I also have the iPhone XS Max, and that phone sounds amazing. On the Pixel 3 XL, the bottom speaker is noticeably louder than the top speaker, so while watching a video in landscape, it just doesn't sound right...it's really bad. I don't know if this will be a deal breaker for me or not, I'll have to try it for a few days and make up my mind. I also have tried the Note 9 and IMO, it sounded about as good as the iPhone XS Max. I have to say, I am a little disappointed in the sound quality of the Pixel 3 XL. Oh yeah, the vibration on the back of the phone is ridiculous also. If you had ear plugs in and felt the back of this phone, you would think that it has a pair of 12" Kickers inside.
Edit...I just tried my iPhone XS Max again, and the sound coming out of the speakers absolutely destroys the Pixel 3 Xl's sound, it's not even close. I wonder if Google can fix this with a software update? Probably not.
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This is my exact experience as well. The iPhone sounds like it’s got Dolby atoms built in its so much better. And yes google should be able to fix it with an update and it requires nothing more than tuning the audio drivers differently (which is software) however will they is an entirely different matter. So yes they can but I doubt it’ll ever change cause they won’t. A shame really
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My experience so far with my pixel 3 xl video quality is 4k is the way to go. I've used 1080p with auto fps and without and when viewing it on my PC the black in the video is somewhat pixelated. That does not happen with my iPhone Xs Max. The pixels video stabilization is awesome though. Stabilization works with 4k also. In 4k there is no pixelation going on in dark areas. Also I'm using h265 option in camera settings so that 4k isn't as big as it would be with h264.
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
TheCookieButter said:
I thought it was meant to have electronic image stabilisation but they couldn't fit Optical in the flip camera due to weight. Either way, the stabilisation on that video looks fairly impressive. More so though, if he is recording from the phone the clarity of the audio is extremely good.
EDIT: That video also lists EIS for 30fps and 60fps 4k recording.
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So did he record that first part in 4k 60fps WITH stabilization? Because it looks VERY smooth, audio was excellent and picture very naturally crisp. If the answer is yes, how come the other dude from the UK, in the first clip couldn't enable EIS?
BTW, audio recording is superb as per the opening piece in this video:
When the portuguese guy starts running I was mesmerized by the stabilization...
They're using pre-production units, perhaps the phone that UK lad got wasn't as ready as the other one? Let's wait and see how the actual production phones work... Can't wait!!
Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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subhani said:
I then found this video where it appears to be well stabilized. I'm confused. The footage looks incredible, actually. But i don't speak that European language. Is he trolling?
https://youtu.be/GDEpyumGnA8?t=77
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Switch on subtitles in your language.
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Not every reviewer is appropriately technically skilled to be able mastered all functions of tested device. In many published videos and previews are missing important facts or even they contains factual errors. It's no wonder when they rush to publish among the first.
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Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
erio82 said:
Yeah, like when Asus says the flip camera is tested for 100.K uses, but if one makes some maths, 28 selfies per day during 365 days = 10.22K and during 5 years = 51.1K, half of those 100K they're claiming... And every expert keeps giving the 100000 number without even checking it... :/
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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oooooooooh, SNAP!!! true that!! I did not realize that simple fact, thanks!
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But this is probably correct, you are missing multiply by two, because camera is opening and closing, there are two moves for every cycle.
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BTW I have found very interesting ZF6 forum in Sweden: https://swedroid.se/forum/forums/zenfone-6-allmaent.587/
There is participating ASUS.Swerige lady which is very knowledgeable about ZF6 which she is daily using. She is answering every question here.
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The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
Trixanity said:
The problem with that (if true) is that it's misleading since if you open it you'd close it as well. Therefore advertising 100K isn't okay in my book. It's artificially pumping up the numbers.
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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They said that "big enough number" - 100 000 - and at the same time they said 28 selfies daily for 5 years. The rest is a simple math...
I think that it is fair to count opening and closing moves as independent operations, because they are performed with the opposite torque.
But I understand your remark, no doubt about it
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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From an engineering perspective then it might make sense to view actuations as different based on direction but certainly not as marketing. You shouldn't market it as 100K when it's 50K uses for the customer.
Whether the math is simple doesn't really matter because we don't know the data or calculations Asus have used to come up with those numbers. It's decent speculation, sure. In fact it's most likely correct.
Either way if we assume you're correct, then Asus have messed up in the marketing. There is no way around it.
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I'm probably going to get this phone. 50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though. I hope 100,000 open+closes is the actual number. My LG G2 still gets use from a family member, so I could see it being an issue.
Either way, in real world it'll probably vary wildly between users and individual phones when it breaks (or not).
subhani said:
It seems stabilization has been added in an update!
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Chigz Tech Reviews additionally show us what SW version they tested in previous video and what updated SW version they tested in today's video.
So we can see that not all reviewers had their tested phones on the same SW version.
It is a pity that most reviewers doesn't bother to told us what SW version they tested, this is a pleasant exception.
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TheCookieButter said:
I'm probably going to get this phone.
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Me too
TheCookieButter said:
50,000 real word uses (and I assume that is ideal conditions) seems like a pretty low number though.
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Forget that number from their marketing department and just imagine what their engineers said: 28 selfies daily for 5 years.
For me that is pretty enough.
And do you know that even traditional DSLR Cameras have a shutter life? I know that it is something different mechanically, but it doesn't last forever too.
https://www.quora.com/Is-this-true-...-that-shutter-count-the-camera-become-useless
subhani said:
Is there really no stabilization in the 4k 60f recording mode? This video shows that it doesn't have it. Huge shame seeing as the Pixel 3a, cheaper and a more inferior chip could stabilise the footage using OIS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjOVjnkrfaU
EDIT: It has been added in an update! Thanks to @Ascended1
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in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
Onepunchbro said:
in this video, the photo comparison is a bit misleading
instead of auto 48mp, he (the youtuber) should use the 12MP with HDR+ or HDR++ to test with pixel 3a photo quality
sony imx 586 is known for producing soft images with less dynamic range in 48mp mode...it is best used in pixel-binned 12mp mode
as for video quality, stabilization looks good even at 4k60p...but the saturation is too much, i wonder Asus will give users the ability to fine-tune the sharpness/contrast/saturation or users need to use third party app such as filmic pro
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Yeah, the stabilization at 4K60 is impressive.
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that. It's not that difficult to spot. People shouldn't look perpetually sunburned and I can't imagine anyone thinking it looks good as opposed to the overall saturated quality to both pictures and video which some people prefer for whatever reason. It's also strange that videos appear so different to pictures. You'd think they'd have similar tuning.
So Asus either need to give the option or just fix it. Any competent reviewer will mention how off the colors are.
Trixanity said:
Everything is too red though. Even faces appear red. It's odd that Asus didn't tune that.
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Asus knows about it, but the fix isn't out yet.
So I used to have the samsung A71. And I go to Techno gigs alot and sometimes record a song I like to ID later. The sound quality was very good and bass did not get distorted alot, even when close to the speakers/subs. So I thought it would be the same on my S22 ultra but yesterday I went to a club and the sound is just horrible.. On a phone that costs 3x the amount. The sound is just distorted and bad.
But weirdly enough my instagram story is not distorted (filmed with the instagram camera) Anyone know why this could be?
EDIT: Proof and video reference.
Filmed with normal camera app:
S22 Filmed with Samsung Camera app
3 new items · Album by Jared Beelprez
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Video made with Samsung A71 last summer.
Samsung A71 MIC Quality
3 new items added to shared album
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No proof, bye.
DoKaTSuYa said:
No proof, bye.
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Hey sorry, i've edited the post with links to the video's
Thanks, yes crazy bad, if it's confirmed, no finger above one of the mics ? Even on Instagram it's not really good, you have Snapdragon or Exynos ?
I've got multiple video's so no finger on the microphone. I use the Spigen Thin fit case.
I live in Belgium so I got Exynos. Model number is SM-S908B/DS
In 2 weeks i'll go to the same club again. I'll try some 3rd party camera apps like Open camera and Gcam.
Honestly in the first video the sound started to open up and get better at the 10 second mark right before the video ends. Maybe it was just a matter of where you were positioned at..
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Honestly in the first video the sound started to open up and get better at the 10 second mark right before the video ends. Maybe it was just a matter of where you were positioned at..
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No sounds like the music stop the bass and it became better. Probably the fingers according to me, well I hope so.
dj24 said:
Honestly in the first video the sound started to open up and get better at the 10 second mark right before the video ends. Maybe it was just a matter of where you were positioned at..
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That's just when the bass stopped, there's speakers left, right and in front of me, so either where I aim the camera the sound will always be the same
5 more video's of yesterday, I think it may be software related, cuz the instagram one isnt half that bad. with the same microphones
5 new items by Jared Beelprez
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Try to use a sound recorder app and see if it will make any difference.
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Try to use a sound recorder app and see if it will make any difference.
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Good idea, i'll try that
Yup, I believe you. It's pretty bad.... Especially when the bass hits it becomes very distorted..
You're holding it wrong!
Seriously, stop recording video holding the phone vertically!
Ugh!
Turn off audio zoom.
cpufrost said:
You're holding it wrong!
Seriously, stop recording video holding the phone vertically!
Ugh!
Turn off audio zoom.
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I don't think keeping my phone horizontally will have effect on the microphone quality.
And if you mean 'zoom in mic' I disabled this
https://imgur.com/Jhff6YA
No it doesn't affect mic quality but it makes videos unwatchable to most!
On a serious note to address overloading audio or AGC on very loud inputs this is bad as I haven't seen this for many generations of Samsung devices!
Try Pro Mode (video) where you have control over audio inputs, for example.
cpufrost said:
No it doesn't affect mic quality but it makes videos unwatchable to most!
On a serious note to address overloading audio or AGC on very loud inputs this is bad as I haven't seen this for many generations of Samsung devices!
Try Pro Mode (video) where you have control over audio inputs, for example.
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I understand but these video's are usually only for instagram (so has to be vertical) or to find a track ID so doesnt matter how it looks, only how it sound haha
I usually film horizontal when I want to show it
Like this: https://photos.app.goo.gl/H7eCkgJL6vrnFBQG9
FYI these video's above are filmed with Oneplus 7 pro. and the quality is pretty okay. Might return to oneplus if that's still the case.
And for the pro mode, i'll add it to the list of things to try in 2 weeks. Thanks
So guys, I'm getting horrible mic quality under water.
eaoosa said:
So guys, I'm getting horrible mic quality under water.
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What are you implying?
FokkingFire said:
What are you implying?
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Don't mind, he has probably never went out, concert or clubbing.