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Verizon Note 3 KitKat Trouble

I recently returned my note 3 back to stock after I loaded a 4.4 rom thinking it was the rom and not actually Kit Kat that was causing me so much trouble with my note 3. I have been in love with this phone since the day I got it on its release date until I finally started using Kit Kat. Since then this phone is junk I have to restart multiple times a day battery life is junk and the GPS is unusable. Not sure what to do from here as I understand there is no root and No way to get back to 4.3. I'm sure I can get Verizon to replace the device but the replacement will just come stock with 4.4. Please someone out there has some insight on how to get back my beloved device
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considering purchasing nexus 5

Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
2. For those of you who are currently using it have you noticed any issues with battery life? Any difference with connectivity to mobile data.
I look forward to hearing from you guys before I make my purchase and thank you in advance.

ThatArchVillan said:
Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
2. For those of you who are currently using it have you noticed any issues with battery life? Any difference with connectivity to mobile data.
I look forward to hearing from you guys before I make my purchase and thank you in advance.
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well if you have made up your mind to get into the party then
1.Yes, it can be rooted fine with toolkit, but still advisable to do it the adb way but toolkit works fine for many who dont want to get into hassle of learning adb stuff
2.for battery it will easily last a day though significant drainage was there with earlier builts on 3g data but it has been solved to some extent now and if you are on wifi no worries
3.if you are not aware of the fact that the next nexus device is there,and expected to release oct/nov so if you want to wait as it comes pre loaded with android L which will get a better name rather than L soon
make your choice :good:

shhbz said:
well if you have made up your mind to get into the party then
1.Yes, it can be rooted fine with toolkit, but still advisable to do it the adb way but toolkit works fine for many who dont want to get into hassle of learning adb stuff
2.for battery it will easily last a day though significant drainage was there with earlier builts on 3g data but it has been solved to some extent now and if you are on wifi no worries
3.if you are not aware of the fact that the next nexus device is there,and expected to release oct/nov so if you want to wait as it comes pre loaded with android L which will get a better name rather than L soon
make your choice :good:
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Thank you so much for your quick reply. If a new nexus will be releasing in 4-5 months and it will have the new android os then I guess I can wait. I hope it stays at the $350 price point. For my personal device I use a galaxy s4 running slimkat and it works fine with slight damage around the edges with the battery lasting an easily 15+ hours with moderate to high use. Again thank you because you saved me $350+ dollars but I'm sure you made it a lot easier for the people who are on the fence still and are looking to get a new phone (who actually need a new device) who were looking to do the same thing.

ThatArchVillan said:
Thank you so much for your quick reply. If a new nexus will be releasing in 4-5 months and it will have the new android os then I guess I can wait. I hope it stays at the $350 price point. For my personal device I use a galaxy s4 running slimkat and it works fine with slight damage around the edges with the battery lasting an easily 15+ hours with moderate to high use. Again thank you because you saved me $350+ dollars but I'm sure you made it a lot easier for the people who are on the fence still and are looking to get a new phone (who actually need a new device) who were looking to do the same thing.
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well a s4 is a good enough phone to spend this 4to 5 months of wait till the next beast is release and whatever drawbacks we can conclude from nexus5 though its a user expectation stuff, still expecting few things after the google I/O and expected to sweep all other phone by large
expected:
64bit snapdragon 810/808 render 4K video,/3gb ram/13mega pixel camera/a larger battery

ThatArchVillan said:
Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
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Please do not use a toolkit. If you use a toolkit, you wont learn anything about fastboot. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery via fastboot is ridiculously easy on this phone. If you don't take the time to learn fastboot now, when you get into trouble later on - you wont know what you're doing and when we try to give you instructions if you need to use fastboot to recover, it makes it much more difficult for us to help you fix it.
It's like turning up to a creative writing course, but expecting us to teach you to read first,
Please click the link in my signature and look at section 1a and 1b. To root an unlock your bootloader, section 1b has all you need to know.
It really is as simple as installing fastboot and drivers then running a couple of fastboot commands. Very easy and worth learning.

rootSU said:
Please do not use a toolkit. If you use a toolkit, you wont learn anything about fastboot. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery via fastboot is ridiculously easy on this phone. If you don't take the time to learn fastboot now, when you get into trouble later on - you wont know what you're doing and when we try to give you instructions if you need to use fastboot to recover, it makes it much more difficult for us to help you fix it.
It's like turning up to a creative writing course, but expecting us to teach you to read first,
Please click the link in my signature and look at section 1a and 1b. To root an unlock your bootloader, section 1b has all you need to know.
It really is as simple as installing fastboot and drivers then running a couple of fastboot commands. Very easy and worth learning.
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Thank you for linking that guide. This will be most helpful to those looking to purchase that nexus 5 in the near future. I could go either way at this point. I'd feel real salty if I got it and the nexus 6 comes out a as early as mentioned above. Any set release date on that yet?

ThatArchVillan said:
Any set release date on that yet?
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Anything anyone here says about the Nexus 6 is a guess. We do not even know if there will be a Nexus 6 at this point, let alone a release date. If you're concerned about that, wait until November and see what happens. If no Nexus 6 has been announced, get something else.

rootSU said:
Anything anyone here says about the Nexus 6 is a guess. We do not even know if there will be a Nexus 6 at this point, let alone a release date. If you're concerned about that, wait until November and see what happens. If no Nexus 6 has been announced, get something else.
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So I bit and purchased a white 16gig nexus 5. I look forward to doing things properly. I must ask though, is Franco kernel compatible with android L? Also can L be rooted on the nexus 5? I could have sworn there's already a thread created for this question already

L is a preview. It isn't an official release. No source code has been released so no one can develop a kernel for it.
Click the link in my signature. It contains all the important threads including rooting L
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rootSU said:
L is a preview. It isn't an official release. No source code has been released so no one can develop a kernel for it.
Click the link in my signature. It contains all the important threads including rooting L
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I have all the guides open so I'll refer to that when the phone comes in later on in the week. I guess I could use cpu tuner after I gain root access. Hows L been working out for you so far on your device?

Don't buy a Nexus 5 just because the developer preview for L is here.

too late lol. and my GS4 is really beat up so I was looking to try out a nexus phone anyway. Thanks rootSU for including guides in the sig. they really helped and made the process really smooth and easy. going to be using this for awhile. hopefully battery isnt too bad on L. if so prolly put that slimrom on there

Few apps don't work presently but that goes without saying. Battery life is not bad at all. Sure do miss pie launcher and changing icon size from slimkat but I'll manage
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I've not tried L. I'll just wait for the slim release most likely.
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What are chances of root?

Root is one of 2 major things I like with my phones, I knew both had a high chance of not ever being on this phone when I bought it, but I want the XDA communities opinion, is there hope? All this bloat that I thought was going to be removed is really getting to me...I have 2.6gb of RAM used at all time and I can't even begin to understand why, unless RAM is what is making the S6 not a slug like previous Sammy phones. Sucks but is there any hope? Anyone who will work to find a way? What about bootloader unlocks? I know with my old S4 it was never achieved, same with S5. However I only really 'need' root.
Last question, has the community given up on this device before they even started? I know its early but I'm just wondering, haven't been in a Sammy phone for a year.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Root is one of 2 major things I like with my phones, I knew both had a high chance of not ever being on this phone when I bought it, but I want the XDA communities opinion, is there hope? All this bloat that I thought was going to be removed is really getting to me...I have 2.6gb of RAM used at all time and I can't even begin to understand why, unless RAM is what is making the S6 not a slug like previous Sammy phones. Sucks but is there any hope? Anyone who will work to find a way? What about bootloader unlocks? I know with my old S4 it was never achieved, same with S5. However I only really 'need' root.
Last question, has the community given up on this device before they even started? I know its early but I'm just wondering, haven't been in a Sammy phone for a year.
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For root, there is hope, but not all that much of it. Though I'm pinning my hopes for a note 4 root on an exploit for the s6. Hopefully something can be found that works for both.
For bootloader, never.

I came from the verizon note 4 and big as the root bounty got in 6 months we never saw root but it has been phones in the past that got root late so wishful thinking . Also I read rumors that the note 4 might be rooted soon so maybe the exploit will be similar also I'm not an expert but I've heard unused ram is wasted ram on android so you shouldn't be worried about ram usage as long as the phone is snappy and smooth .

It's possible that this late in the game for the Note 4, someone may be waiting for a bounty on the S6 and then release an exploit that works with both.

Highly unlikely. Note 4 has had a few close calls, but nobody has been able to get it done. The s6 will likely never have root on Verizon...unfortunately.

Wow I didn't realize it was so hard to root. I guess I should've researched this beforehand but version sold it the cheapest so I bought it on impulse. If things aren't looking good maybe I'll return it within the 2 weeks and see if I can get a tmobile one for not too much more.
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abdel12345 said:
Wow I didn't realize it was so hard to root. I guess I should've researched this beforehand but version sold it the cheapest so I bought it on impulse. If things aren't looking good maybe I'll return it within the 2 weeks and see if I can get a tmobile one for not too much more.
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The T-Mobile S6 won't work on Verizon.

Only downside of Samsung root is tripping the Knox counter..And there's no going back from that. So pretty much if they check, your warranty is voided if you ever have a non rooted issue that you can use the warranty on. My old note 3 the screen started to left up and my Knox counter was tripped. Never took it in as fear as id get billed later for something after they swapped it out.

So it may be a long shot but do we want to setup a bounty for gaining root?

I think s6 will see root but not unlocked boot loader
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as long as i can have root and xposed...i am happy!!!

stanfna said:
as long as i can have root and xposed...i am happy!!!
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Those are the two least likely things to happen unfortunately
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Android/bootloader version shipped with new S3s?

I've searched around, but I can't seem to confirm the answer to this question. I've recently been hit by the locked bootloader issue after buying a used Verizon S3 that was already upgraded to 4.4.2. I would like to pay someone to do the JTAG bootloader downgrade, but I'm not having much luck finding help with that at this point.
My question is: did this phone ever ship from Verizon with 4.3 or 4.4.2 already installed? In other words, if I buy a new old stock Verizon S3, am I safe, or is there a chance it will have the locked bootloader too?

harrisonts said:
I've searched around, but I can't seem to confirm the answer to this question. I've recently been hit by the locked bootloader issue after buying a used Verizon S3 that was already upgraded to 4.4.2. I would like to pay someone to do the JTAG bootloader downgrade, but I'm not having much luck finding help with that at this point.
My question is: did this phone ever ship from Verizon with 4.3 or 4.4.2 already installed? In other words, if I buy a new old stock Verizon S3, am I safe, or is there a chance it will have the locked bootloader too?
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More than likely if you find a VZW S3 in the wild it will more than likely have a locked bootloader. When the device first was available I got it with 4.1.2 on it but that was quite a long time ago. Your best bet may be someone selling it on swappa
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ShapesBlue said:
More than likely if you find a VZW S3 in the wild it will more than likely have a locked bootloader. When the device first was available I got it with 4.1.2 on it but that was quite a long time ago. Your best bet may be someone selling it on swappa
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Thanks, ShapesBlue. That's kind of what I assumed, and of course, it happened with the one I picked up.
My hope, still, was that I could find one new in the box (there are a few on eBay right now) that shipped with and had never been updated from 4.1.2. I'll certainly shop around a bit more or maybe see if there's a custom rom one on Swappa.

harrisonts said:
Thanks, ShapesBlue. That's kind of what I assumed, and of course, it happened with the one I picked up.
My hope, still, was that I could find one new in the box (there are a few on eBay right now) that shipped with and had never been updated from 4.1.2. I'll certainly shop around a bit more or maybe see if there's a custom rom one on Swappa.
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Definitely recommend. I bought my Nexus 5 from swappa and almost bought my N6 from there but found a better deal on amazon. I still have the S3 laying around, I'll probably never get rid of mine
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Please guide me...What is my first step? G955u1

I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.

mulderato said:
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
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mulderato said:
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
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there is 1 rooted rom but no twrp maybe safestrap but we have locked bootloaders so no good
Check out partcyborg rom

Wait...... lol.. you mean that the Snapdragon versions... even carrier unlocked still have locked bootloaders? ohhhhhgod...I can't live with this device in stock form.

mulderato said:
Wait...... lol.. you mean that the Snapdragon versions... even carrier unlocked still have locked bootloaders? ohhhhhgod...I can't live with this device in stock form.
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Yes it's horrible