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Is someone trying to root this thing?

If this device is not rooted by Monday, I will just have to return it... I hate it when a device is locked down, and yes I am sorta hoping that Monday Samsung unveils the Nexus Two...
EDIT: Okay, a lot of you love this device, I am just saying that this may be another reason why I would return the device, I have more things I dislike about this device besides not having a root. So for anyone telling me to return it already, sure I just might, maybe because I have more other reasons.
About the Nexus two, I am just saying that any other device might have some things that I like more. I am simply asking if someone is working on it.
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Smokexz said:
If this device is not rooted by Monday, I will just have to return it... I hate it when a device is locked down, and yes I am sorta hoping that Monday Samsung unveils the Nexus Two...
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Be patient. The devs are working on rooting TWO 4G phones (this and the G2). I'm in the market for a new Android device myself and I'm on the fence until one of these gets rooted or until the N2 comes out.

Some devices are rooted before they are even on the market, I think I just might return this device if the Nexus 2 is real
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This phone is locked down the same way the G2 is. When devs figure out permanent root on the G2, we will have it too. It ain't gonna be by Monday though. You might as well return your phone today. :rollseyes:

Damn OP, you really need to chill! Not all phones are the same, and not all get rooted right when they come out.
Yes, it sucks that we're dealing with a new chip, and it's gonna take time to crack, but that's the way it is. I assure you that we have some of the best Dev's working really hard to get this going.
You demanding to have root by Monday or you'll return the phone only makes you look like a fool! Hate to say it, but we're not going to see root for weeks, or even months for matter.
All I gotta say now is... walk your sorry ass back to T-Mobile, and exchange the phone for 2 tin cans, and a long ass string.

I hope you go return it and realize how silly you are for doing such a thing.
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Smokexz said:
If this device is not rooted by Monday, I will just have to return it... I hate it when a device is locked down, and yes I am sorta hoping that Monday Samsung unveils the Nexus Two...
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Nexus 2 Launch Plagued by Hardware Issues
http://bit.ly/be8g6s
I hope this link helps you with your decision.

wow it amazes me how you can give a deadline... how are you helping to gain root access? what have you contributed? or are you just waiting around for other people to do all the work so you can just flash a rom :/
Also to be clear I dont understand how you can say you hate being "locked down"... say you did get root and flashed a rom then aren't you just locked down in a different way? (now having anything that dev personally likes on your phone, instead of what the htc dev's like)
sorry for the little rant it just drives me nuts how everyone seems to want things done for them around here these days...

Smokexz said:
If this device is not rooted by Monday, I will just have to return it... I hate it when a device is locked down, and yes I am sorta hoping that Monday Samsung unveils the Nexus Two...
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Just because it's a new Nexus doesn't mean it's going to be as good, or better than Nexus One. And just because previous Samsung phones were root-able, doesn't mean this one is going to be as well.
If it's like the rest of Galaxy S phones, then go ahead and knock yourself out. Make sure you enjoy your functional GPS until Monday though.

I was just gonna say the same thing... from what I have read the N2 is basically a Vanilla Galaxy S phone... the major hardware issuing plaguing the announcement is most likely due to GPS hardware issues.
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Just because it's a new Nexus doesn't mean it's going to be as good, or better than Nexus One. And just because previous Samsung phones were root-able, doesn't mean this one is going to be as well.
If it's like the rest of Galaxy S phones, then go ahead and knock yourself out. Make sure you enjoy your functional GPS until Monday though.
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Do us all a favor and return it

I will give it a chance sure, but I an just so tired of temp root
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What exactly are you doing that you can't live without root?
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With the updated visionary app that starts on boot it works like a permanent root. I'm sure there are some restrictions but I am using it rooted for setcpu and have not had one issue with this yet. Granted I don't use the terminal to transfer things though.
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Haha wow iz it your time of month? Watch the nexus 2 be locked down as well
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bubonik said:
What exactly are you doing that you can't live without root?
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I just like to explore what my device can do, I love having the option to install this little fix or this ROM. It's freedom what I like... I understand everyone loved the device, I have my own reasoning, I came from a Galaxy S, I had no complaints other than 2.2 taking more than forever to come.
Most of you are insulting me rather than thinking if I have different reasons, I don't just simply dislike the device because it has no root, I have other reasons. You all may enjoy the device however I could probably name a couple of things that just make me dislike the device, mainly that Genius button.
Continue to tell me I should return my phone etc etc, however if it is not rootable more reason for me to return the thing and get another device.
I don't know if there is a Nexus 2, I don't know if it will be rootable, but as of now if it is real, I might get it.

I have a vibrant, and if Samsung is making the Nexus 2....I wouldn't dream of owning it. Horrible support and empty promises. Can anyone say Behold 2?
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i heard there is no nexus 2 that there is a phone people kept saying it might be the nexus 2 but its not. plus the phone i saw was only for verizon so it wont come out for tmobile but now i cant find the site i was reading up on.

Smokexz said:
If this device is not rooted by Monday, I will just have to return it... I hate it when a device is locked down, and yes I am sorta hoping that Monday Samsung unveils the Nexus Two...
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dude why do u need it to be rooted anyways? this phone is badass with out rooting it, u cant overclock it yet so for me there is no point until they first off can get it rooted and 2 if they can overclock it like the g2 and vibrant. but i can wait im sure they will figure it out. come on now they managed to get the hd2 running android 2.2 on a phone that doesnt even have android period, so im sure they will figure it out. i would rather them take there time then rush it and mess something up.

Smokexz said:
I just like to explore what my device can do, I love having the option to install this little fix or this ROM. It's freedom what I like... I understand everyone loved the device, I have my own reasoning, I came from a Galaxy S, I had no complaints other than 2.2 taking more than forever to come.
Most of you are insulting me rather than thinking if I have different reasons, I don't just simply dislike the device because it has no root, I have other reasons. You all may enjoy the device however I could probably name a couple of things that just make me dislike the device, mainly that Genius button.
Continue to tell me I should return my phone etc etc, however if it is not rootable more reason for me to return the thing and get another device.
I don't know if there is a Nexus 2, I don't know if it will be rootable, but as of now if it is real, I might get it.
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First and foremost, if you have other reasons for ditching the new mytouch, voice them. You can't just post a new thread demanding root OR ELSE. It makes you look like a major d-bag. However, I do agree with you. It's frustrating that it can't be rooted just yet, and there a bunch of other things I don't like, mainly the genius button, but I'm not going to get rid of it for that reason. That's retarded. You can't buy an unreleased phone and expect it to be rooted immediately. Devs put countless hours into making these things possible, and the rudest thing you can do is be an ungrateful snot by giving the developer community an ultimatum. We, as a community, DO NOT CARE which phone you have. If you want to get rid of it, go for it. One less whiner.
As far as root access is concerned, I'm fairly confident that the g2 and mytouch are close enough in hardware and mechanism that with one, will come the other. And as of this writing, the g2 has a bigger following. (and more patient people)
For me, root means removing bloatware, and cleaning up the stock rom. It looks good enough as is, and for now, I don't see much reason to change it. I'll do some experimenting with visual changes in the framework, but that'll probably be the extent of it. Did anybody else here miss the HTC dialer? I sure did!!!(though I'm not totally sure I like the way this espresso one works...)
Edit: if google chooses samsung as their odm for a follow-up nexus device then they're morons. Touchwiz sucks, samsung support sucks, samsung bugfixes suck, hardware planning sucks.
Reasoning: Touchwiz is annoying and the interface lacks a professional appearance...needs less form, more function! - Samsung is useless if you have a problem. USELESS. Kies..oden??? Really? - Everybody take a quick second and look up a picture of the galaxy s(at least the t-mobile version). Do you see a status led? No, you don't. Why? There isn't one. At all. You need to turn your phone on to see if there is an email, or a text, or a missed call. How about the epic4G...samsung made a desktop dock. Sweet right? No. Place the phone in it and it's resting on the volume keys. WTF? I'm sure an led wouldn't have killed samsung in production costs, and designing a dock that presses keys is a huge oversight, and should have been noticed by quality control immediately. It's an easy fix. I can't stand behind a company that puts out such half-finished products. Samsung: please complete the development process before you release your products to consumers. I'd rather wait an extra month and have something fully functional.
Summary: I've had a galaxy S and an epic 4g. Both of them had glaring issues, all of which were swept under the rug by samsung. Generally by a "updates and bugfixes are coming soon" type of response. Personally, that's just a terrible thing to do to consumers. Nothing brings repeat business more than a product that 'just works' right out of the box.
Sorry this was so long-winded...I'm tired and not thinking straight

upgrade help

i have a Verizon Note 4 and a Nexus 6.
i bought note for the full price off verizon and was waiting for a software upgrade to see if it would fix the problems i was having. that never came and i missed my return period. its also bootloader locked so i could try to make it less laggy by rooting.
i then bought a nexus 6 ,which brought me to xda as its my first time rooting, but its a hassle updating roms and having to reset up my phone. so i still use my laggy note more than the nexus.
im not sure if i should sell both and get a S6 edge.
my main concerns is the phone going to be laggy and freeze on me like my note and the fact that im on verizon means my bootloader will probably be locked.

GreeleyXda said:
i have a Verizon Note 4 and a Nexus 6.
i bought note for the full price off verizon and was waiting for a software upgrade to see if it would fix the problems i was having. that never came and i missed my return period. its also bootloader locked so i could try to make it less laggy by rooting.
i then bought a nexus 6 ,which brought me to xda as its my first time rooting, but its a hassle updating roms and having to reset up my phone. so i still use my laggy note more than the nexus.
im not sure if i should sell both and get a S6 edge.
my main concerns is the phone going to be laggy and freeze on me like my note and the fact that im on verizon means my bootloader will probably be locked.
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We simply don't know enough about the S6 right now, even about the bootloader.
And with it on Exynos, the things that were certain for the past few years... may not be anymore. But again, we don't know.
Best advice I can give - wait until after release.
Give it a bit of time to find the answers you want and then decide.
Otherwise any advice given would be the same as throwing darts while blindfolded.

GreeleyXda said:
i have a Verizon Note 4 and a Nexus 6.
i bought note for the full price off verizon and was waiting for a software upgrade to see if it would fix the problems i was having. that never came and i missed my return period. its also bootloader locked so i could try to make it less laggy by rooting.
i then bought a nexus 6 ,which brought me to xda as its my first time rooting, but its a hassle updating roms and having to reset up my phone. so i still use my laggy note more than the nexus.
im not sure if i should sell both and get a S6 edge.
my main concerns is the phone going to be laggy and freeze on me like my note and the fact that im on verizon means my bootloader will probably be locked.
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Is Verizon your only or best cell service choice for coverage and quality?. If yes, wait for the device to be released and more is known about real life usage etc
If not, you would do better to moving to a provider that allows you to BYOD so you can be sure it isn't bootloader unlocked and, in all likelihood save money too. If the S6 is what you have decided to buy, be aware that AOSP roms are unlikely to ever appear for it (and root isn't neccessarily a forgone conclusion). Your current devices can be sold to fund your S6...

MiyagiSan said:
Is Verizon your only or best cell service choice for coverage and quality?. If yes, wait for the device to be released and more is known about real life usage etc
If not, you would do better to moving to a provider that allows you to BYOD so you can be sure it isn't bootloader unlocked and, in all likelihood save money too. If the S6 is what you have decided to buy, be aware that AOSP roms are unlikely to ever appear for it (and root isn't neccessarily a forgone conclusion). Your current devices can be sold to fund your S6...
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yes, verizon has the best signal and i have unlimited data with them.
im not interested in roms really. titanium backup would be nice but i can do without it.
as long as the phone is smoothe/lag free i can do without root.

GreeleyXda said:
yes, verizon has the best signal and i have unlimited data with them.
im not interested in roms really. titanium backup would be nice but i can do without it.
as long as the phone is smoothe/lag free i can do without root.
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In that case I can't see a better phone on the horizon than the S6. Even if one were to launch later, you wouldn't need it. The S6 is plenty fast...

MiyagiSan said:
In that case I can't see a better phone on the horizon than the S6. Even if one were to launch later, you wouldn't need it. The S6 is plenty fast...
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yeah, this phone is gonna be state of the art!! Can't wait.

Wait until the s6 is on sale, wait the opinion of the firsts users and then, you'll know what to do. Is very soon, we don't know enough of the s6, wait to decide.

Questions about root before trading phones! Please help

So I currently use a Galaxy S5. It's rooted and I still run a KitKat ROM right now and everything works great. I have someone who will give me an iPhone 6 for my S5 + $25. I am in no way a fan of iPhones or iOS but I am kind of getting bored with my S5. There are a few people developing for it still but I just want something new to play with. I want to try out the iPhone 6 mainly for the camera. Looking on craigslist I see plenty of people with excellent condition Galaxy S6's willing to trade for an iPhone 6. So my thinking is to get the iPhone tomorrow and within a few weeks trade it for an S6.
The S5 really is the perfect phone but like I mentioned I want something new. I have unlimited data on verizon and if I ever need to have hotspot I can use that with no issues. Battery life is great and it also has the power saving modes. Also the removable memory card slot lets me put in my friends GoPro memory card and copy clips right to my phone. I will be giving up a lot so I hope the S6 is worth it.
Before I get rid of my S5 I wanted to double check a few things. I know on the S5 the latest update can't be rooted. I also saw a thread here mentioning the same thing for the S6. So I just wanted to confirm. If I get one from someone on craigslist it's likely gonna be on the newest software. Can it be rooted or can it be downgraded and then rooted? If not are there enough people still working on this phone that there's a pretty good chance it will have root again eventually?
Thanks for any answers!

aholeinthewor1d said:
So I currently use a Galaxy S5. It's rooted and I still run a KitKat ROM right now and everything works great. I have someone who will give me an iPhone 6 for my S5 + $25. I am in no way a fan of iPhones or iOS but I am kind of getting bored with my S5. There are a few people developing for it still but I just want something new to play with. I want to try out the iPhone 6 mainly for the camera. Looking on craigslist I see plenty of people with excellent condition Galaxy S6's willing to trade for an iPhone 6. So my thinking is to get the iPhone tomorrow and within a few weeks trade it for an S6.
The S5 really is the perfect phone but like I mentioned I want something new. I have unlimited data on verizon and if I ever need to have hotspot I can use that with no issues. Battery life is great and it also has the power saving modes. Also the removable memory card slot lets me put in my friends GoPro memory card and copy clips right to my phone. I will be giving up a lot so I hope the S6 is worth it.
Before I get rid of my S5 I wanted to double check a few things. I know on the S5 the latest update can't be rooted. I also saw a thread here mentioning the same thing for the S6. So I just wanted to confirm. If I get one from someone on craigslist it's likely gonna be on the newest software. Can it be rooted or can it be downgraded and then rooted? If not are there enough people still working on this phone that there's a pretty good chance it will have root again eventually?
Thanks for any answers!
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If it is on the latest software no chance of root and no downgrade. If you want root, find one that either has build number G920VVRU1AOC3 or G920VVRU1AOE2. Both can be rooted. Any other build number can not be rooted and cannot be downgraded. Make sure you ask these seller what the build number is. I personally believe that sometime in the future a new root exploit will be found, but not likely any time soon.

aholeinthewor1d said:
So I currently use a Galaxy S5. It's rooted and I still run a KitKat ROM right now and everything works great. I have someone who will give me an iPhone 6 for my S5 + $25. I am in no way a fan of iPhones or iOS but I am kind of getting bored with my S5. There are a few people developing for it still but I just want something new to play with. I want to try out the iPhone 6 mainly for the camera. Looking on craigslist I see plenty of people with excellent condition Galaxy S6's willing to trade for an iPhone 6. So my thinking is to get the iPhone tomorrow and within a few weeks trade it for an S6.
The S5 really is the perfect phone but like I mentioned I want something new. I have unlimited data on verizon and if I ever need to have hotspot I can use that with no issues. Battery life is great and it also has the power saving modes. Also the removable memory card slot lets me put in my friends GoPro memory card and copy clips right to my phone. I will be giving up a lot so I hope the S6 is worth it.
Before I get rid of my S5 I wanted to double check a few things. I know on the S5 the latest update can't be rooted. I also saw a thread here mentioning the same thing for the S6. So I just wanted to confirm. If I get one from someone on craigslist it's likely gonna be on the newest software. Can it be rooted or can it be downgraded and then rooted? If not are there enough people still working on this phone that there's a pretty good chance it will have root again eventually?
Thanks for any answers!
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Like was mentioned by snowby123, only OC3 and OE2 can be rooted. My only added comment is I would use swappa over Craigslist. Safe place to buy a phone and you can confirm firmware before purchase. I've bought and sold several on there.

Snowby123 said:
If it is on the latest software no chance of root and no downgrade. If you want root, find one that either has build number G920VVRU1AOC3 or G920VVRU1AOE2. Both can be rooted. Any other build number can not be rooted and cannot be downgraded. Make sure you ask these seller what the build number is. I personally believe that sometime in the future a new root exploit will be found, but not likely any time soon.
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Tulsadiver said:
Like was mentioned by snowby123, only OC3 and OE2 can be rooted. My only added comment is I would use swappa over Craigslist. Safe place to buy a phone and you can confirm firmware before purchase. I've bought and sold several on there.
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Thank you both! Exactly what I was looking for. Just checked the S5 forum and there is two people currently testing some ideas for rooting the new build and bypassing the bootloader so I won't what will happen with that.
Are there non root hotspot apps that I will be able to get? I will try and get a rootable firmware but who knows if I'll find one. Gonna miss my S5! No going back after tonight
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Is anybody close to unlocking the latest bootloaders, or is it unlikely?

I (very) recently got a Verizon Galaxy S6 and (stupidly) allowed the updates to run :silly:. I should have known better, as I went through the unlocking/rooting process with Verizon's S3. I could live with it for a bit if people think it will be unlocked in the near future (I'm on VRU4BOG9), but if there's a reason that it's unlikely that it will ever be unlocked, I can still return it and cancel my plan. I could just change carriers, but it's a little tricky because it involves my wife's phone/line, as well.
Does anyone have any information or opinions regarding this?
Thanks!

I'm with you in the same boat.
It was past the baseband even before i let the updates run.

I doubt there will be anything. This forum is pretty dead. No developers etc. I am going to look into getting a tmobile s6 and see if I can unlock, root and get it working on verizon. I think it can be done I've just not looked into it yet so not for sure.
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Stagefright might allow root. I'm waiting to see.

redrol said:
Stagefright might allow root. I'm waiting to see.
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Stagefright doesn't run at root level.

dobbs3x said:
I doubt there will be anything. This forum is pretty dead. No developers etc. I am going to look into getting a tmobile s6 and see if I can unlock, root and get it working on verizon. I think it can be done I've just not looked into it yet so not for sure.
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t-mo has CDMA radio?
or you plan to run LTE only?
i would be interested to find out as well

It's unlikely.. as some of the recent dev posts have made clear samsung is the ultimate anti-developer company... as such most of the dev's that would normally work on this have moved on to other brands. It's also gotten to the point that it's almost impossible to actually unlock.. they almost always work around it rather than unlock it, and there are only so many of these workarounds out there.
It may get rooted again, but it will be very unlikely that the bootloader gets unlocked.. basically our only hope would be a leaked test bootloader thats already unlocked.. But I've only ever heard of this happening once.

Take it back while you can. Had my s6 rooted on 5.0.2 but there was no xposed support or xposed for it. If you enjoy rooting your phone the outlook is not good. Not much going on with this scene. After owning mine for just 2 months I sold mine on eBay and am headed towards a nexus. Not a bad phone but not good for flashing...I will do my research next time before getting a Samsung !

sulpher said:
It's unlikely.. as some of the recent dev posts have made clear samsung is the ultimate anti-developer company....
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It's not Samsung, IT'S Verizon that's locking Us out.

rbeavers said:
It's not Samsung, IT'S Verizon that's locking Us out.
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It's Samsung that lets Verizon lock us out. They let companies throw their logo on it still so...

How about Chainfire
EXPERIMENT: Root without modifying /system (you can search for it here on XDA)
I hope it could actually work soon!

webwarr said:
How about Chainfire
EXPERIMENT: Root without modifying /system (you can search for it here on XDA)
I hope it could actually work soon!
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Tried it, no go

Got it...
That's sad
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Becoming less and less happy that I bought this phone. Especially on the payment plan. I may have to bite the bullet, pay it off and just sell it for whatever I can get. Sucks. I loved my fascinate, my S3, and my S4. Been using my Moto Maxx 2 more and more lately. THAT'S SAD.
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Besides the Nexus what model phones are now dev friendly? I was looking at a G4 but apparently LG is just like Samsung with the nearly uncrackable locked bootloaders now.

s5 just got full bootloader unlock..

Is it Verizon or the Exynos chip that's holding back development on this device? ELI5
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It's the customized software that samsung builds for Verizon that limits access to root and bootloader. Without having root privileges, you can not make any system changes let alone access it. The chip has nothing to do with this.

s5 just got bootloader unlock BUT the dev has not said he will release anything. It may never happen on this device. having said that the debloater is the key to a smooth device with good battery. If debloating is all you need, that can be done without root.
After debloating about 150 apps on my s6, I can get days and days on battery with minimal use.

This who ordeal with Samsung screwing us on the S6 is making me want to switch to a Nexus...

S7 bootloader unlock petition

Anybody interested in the bootloader and unlocking it I encourage you to sign this petition. These phones are ours to use how we see fit and the more noise we make the better our chances are. I bought this phone under the assumption that nothing had changed and for Samsung to change their policies without notice isn't acceptable for me and hopefully you as well. Thank you
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Dude, there's honestly no point. Ive been on xda for about 10 years and ive always need to root every single android phone ive owned. Until recently, Samsung started making pretty good android phones starting with the s6 and up. I had no reason to root my s6, note 5, and now no reason to root my s7 edge. Im not saying you should have no need to root yours, i just feel like Samsung and android have come a long way and nowadays rooting serves no purpose;for me at least. Is rooting worth losing Samsung pay or any other security features we need to protect us? Not really. Also, Samsung can change their policies as they please, you still bought their phone. Rooting died a couple years ago, move on. Best of luck with your petition.

No point is simply just not true. I haven't even looked at a Samsung until the S6 last year and I got the M9 instead. Now with HTC dumping boomsound on the M10 I switched after 8 HTC phones. While I agree Samsung has come a long way not only in hardware but software and you can do more things now without root I still miss it a lot. Have this phone a week now, not having root sucks. It's just not the same. While yes you can do quite a bit without it, there is still plenty missing. People saying that root is dead or they don't need it is just denial for the fact that things have got so locked down it's not worth justifying the hassle which might just be true.
Let's say knox was never developed, triangle away still worked so you could also go back to stock and you could flash away with an unlocked bootloader everyone would be singing a totally different tune and you guys would be rooted. Now that Samsung has total control, we have to justify it to ourselves on why it makes sense not to root which frankly right now I think is the case.

kennypow3rs said:
Dude, there's honestly no point. Ive been on xda for about 10 years and ive always need to root every single android phone ive owned. Until recently, Samsung started making pretty good android phones starting with the s6 and up. I had no reason to root my s6, note 5, and now no reason to root my s7 edge. Im not saying you should have no need to root yours, i just feel like Samsung and android have come a long way and nowadays rooting serves no purpose;for me at least. Is rooting worth losing Samsung pay or any other security features we need to protect us? Not really. Also, Samsung can change their policies as they please, you still bought their phone. Rooting died a couple years ago, move on. Best of luck with your petition.
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Its all good if you have no interest then that's fine but I for one do. I hate touchjiz and the bloatware that is just the tip of the iceberg. Rooting will never die maybe some people don't but most that have rooted will always want it. Thanks for your input though. Without root we really don't have any need for a development section so this forum will likely die. I'm jumping ship to the lg g5 until samsung does something if they ever do.

brendan802 said:
Its all good if you have no interest then that's fine but I for one do. I hate touchjiz and the bloatware that is just the tip of the iceberg. Rooting will never die maybe some people don't but most that have rooted will always want it. Thanks for your input though. Without root we really don't have any need for a development section so this forum will likely die. I'm jumping ship to the lg g5 until samsung does something if they ever do.
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I personally have no problem with Samsung locking things down. In fact for the general pop it will be great, but since we live in the free world it Samsung should still allow the option of choice. As long as they have the proper disclaimer in place that warns of consequences the one can make the decision. I think the big reason for the locked bootloader has to do with carriers leasing the phones. Since rooting breaks the pay app and can't reversed. Just imagine if you got a previous leased phone and the pay app doesn't work. What samsung should do is allow for a complete reset factory action including knox. Maybe not have it available to the general public but maybe the carriers or somewhere higher up. This would give the best of both worlds.

kennypow3rs said:
Dude, there's honestly no point. Ive been on xda for about 10 years and ive always need to root every single android phone ive owned. Until recently, Samsung started making pretty good android phones starting with the s6 and up. I had no reason to root my s6, note 5, and now no reason to root my s7 edge. Im not saying you should have no need to root yours, i just feel like Samsung and android have come a long way and nowadays rooting serves no purpose;for me at least. Is rooting worth losing Samsung pay or any other security features we need to protect us? Not really. Also, Samsung can change their policies as they please, you still bought their phone. Rooting died a couple years ago, move on. Best of luck with your petition.
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Dude you've been here 5 years. I've been here 7. Neither of which matters. Rooting didn't die any more than rock and roll did when disco came along.
I drive a semi and without root I can't get the headphone, or bluetooth, volumes high enough when running through the trucks stereo. And before you start talking about headphones, those that cover both ears are illegal and i don't like listening through only one ear. So I want root. If you don't that's wonderful for you, but please don't step onto a developers board, claim seniority you just don't have, and try to tell people the board has become meaningless.

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Dude you've been here 5 years. I've been here 7. Neither of which matters. Rooting didn't die any more than rock and roll did when disco came along.
I drive a semi and without root I can't get the headphone, or bluetooth, volumes high enough when running through the trucks stereo. And before you start talking about headphones, those that cover both ears are illegal and i don't like listening through only one ear. So I want root. If you don't that's wonderful for you, but please don't step onto a developers board, claim seniority you just don't have, and try to tell people the board has become meaningless.
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This is my second account ive definitely been here since the palm and original HTC touch days with Windows pocket lol. But to the point, rooting is dead per se, but there's definitely less of a reason to do so these days. Touch wiz is damn near perfect. Even for those thay dont like it can slap a launcher on it. I see no purpose to root, i can block ads with ad guard. Also stock android doesnt have all the bells and whistles either so id rsther stay stock. Again, i know others may need it, but i was simply saying its pointless thess days. I still come here for many other things, just not to root.
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kennypow3rs said:
This is my second account ive definitely been here since the palm and original HTC touch days with Windows pocket lol.
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I stand corrected.
kennypow3rs said:
Again, i know others may need it, but i was simply saying its pointless these days.
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Are not 'needed' and 'pointless' antonyms? You just refuted your own statement.
And I don't use stock android. I use rooted and modded versions of Sprint's base ROM. The only stock versions I have truly liked and used are by Temesek, and those tend to be few and far between on Sprint variants.
I also never use Touchwiz. It's been NovaLauncher for years now for me. And I just prefer all the little conveniences and tweaks that you can make with root. Like an extended power menu without having to add more apps from Google Play. And several diagnostic tools I use to troubleshoot when I have a weak or slow signal where I shouldn't.
So I'm really happy that your content to live with what Samsung and Sprint deign to allow you, I'm not. And since these boards seem to be doing just fine, I would guess that there are enough people who agree with me to make your opinion not nearly as wide spread as you believe it to be.
And one final question, if you believe rooting is pointless and dead, why are you still on these boards?

DreamingWolf said:
I stand corrected.
Are not 'needed' and 'pointless' antonyms? You just refuted your own statement.
And I don't use stock android. I use rooted and modded versions of Sprint's base ROM. The only stock versions I have truly liked and used are by Temesek, and those tend to be few and far between on Sprint variants.
I also never use Touchwiz. It's been NovaLauncher for years now for me. And I just prefer all the little conveniences and tweaks that you can make with root. Like an extended power menu without having to add more apps from Google Play. And several diagnostic tools I use to troubleshoot when I have a weak or slow signal where I shouldn't.
So I'm really happy that your content to live with what Samsung and Sprint deign to allow you, I'm not. And since these boards seem to be doing just fine, I would guess that there are enough people who agree with me to make your opinion not nearly as wide spread as you believe it to be.
And one final question, if you believe rooting is pointless and dead, why are you still on these boards?
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I still come here for other things, like questions i may have, apps, reviews, and ive been here for so long i still help others when i can. Its still a community i am apart of regardless if i root or not.
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Root or not to root is a matter of opinion, I think it is far from dead or useless imo.
I have rooted every phone I have ever had that it was capable on within 24 hours of getting the phone just because I want to put on the phone what I want not what Samsung thinks I want.
I don't fit well with the masses and rooting let's me be that way with my phone....
That said this has been seen before on other devices and has been worked around by the amazing devs on this sight.
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Rooting will never die unless the manufacturers kill it. It has too much of a following with people that love to root and need to root. So yes no root is a huge deal for me I'm coming from a Nexus 6 where I had multirom and weekly updates. The phone never gets boring when it is unleashed and rootable. I have had the Edge for about a week and I'm already bored/frustrated with it. I'm going to the Sprint store today to try and return it. My Nexus 6 flies compared to the S7 Edge even though its specs are way better. Hardware can only get you so far the software is what makes the phone fly. The stock S7 Edge has so much BS bloatware and unneeded stuff that slows it down significantly. Give me the international one and maybe I would keep it. Also, the Samsung pay is a joke for me because it doesn't support any of my banks or cards. I will be preordering the LG G5 or waiting for the next Nexus.

We should have the option.
I don't really need to root today, because I primarily use the phone for business and I don't want to have it down because I change my mind on which ROM to pick every 6 hours.
But I want the option to get rid of the ****, yes, ****, they put on this phone. Why they load junk I can't get rid of is beyond me.
If we can't control the phone, I'll have to jump off the Samsung bandwagon next year...no matter how good they make it.
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brendan802 said:
Anybody interested in the bootloader and unlocking it I encourage you to sign this petition. These phones are ours to use how we see fit and the more noise we make the better our chances are. I bought this phone under the assumption that nothing had changed and for Samsung to change their policies without notice isn't acceptable for me and hopefully you as well. Thank you
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Is there one for Sprint? This petition does not go to them at all.
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So I've had this thought about this locked bootloader problem. I am not sure if this is a viable solution or whether it would even work. I was thinking that our European brethren has an unlocked bootloader. Would there be a way to Odin their bootloader on our devicesor would the fact that they have a different processor be a problem. Because in theory if we had a Samsung sign Odin file of with an unlocked bootloader we should be able to Odin and have a unlocked bootloader, no? Or is there more to it than that?

El.Dante565 said:
So I've had this thought about this locked bootloader problem. I am not sure if this is a viable solution or whether it would even work. I was thinking that our European brethren has an unlocked bootloader. Would there be a way to Odin their bootloader on our devicesor would the fact that they have a different processor be a problem. Because in theory if we had a Samsung sign Odin file of with an unlocked bootloader we should be able to Odin and have a unlocked bootloader, no? Or is there more to it than that?
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Good question. But no, it would not work. Not even because it's a different processor, which that is part. But say if T Mobile got an unlocked bootloader, it would not work for Sprint. Nor would it necessarily help to know how it happened and use it as a road map to unlock another carrier's bl.
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mkeller96 said:
Rooting will never die unless the manufacturers kill it. It has too much of a following with people that love to root and need to root. So yes no root is a huge deal for me I'm coming from a Nexus 6 where I had multirom and weekly updates. The phone never gets boring when it is unleashed and rootable. I have had the Edge for about a week and I'm already bored/frustrated with it. I'm going to the Sprint store today to try and return it. My Nexus 6 flies compared to the S7 Edge even though its specs are way better. Hardware can only get you so far the software is what makes the phone fly. The stock S7 Edge has so much BS bloatware and unneeded stuff that slows it down significantly. Give me the international one and maybe I would keep it. Also, the Samsung pay is a joke for me because it doesn't support any of my banks or cards. I will be preordering the LG G5 or waiting for the next Nexus.
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I would suggest waiting to see if the bootloader is locked down on the lg g5 before ordering. I was not planning to root my s7e, but I must say I was curious to see what this powerhouse was capable of if unleashed from touchwiz,sadly I will never know.:crying:

Anyone else receive an OTA update this morning from Sprint? Took about 15 minutes to download and install.
I'm now showing software version G935PVPU2APC5.

runner77 said:
Anyone else receive an OTA update this morning from Sprint? Took about 15 minutes to download and install.
I'm now showing software version G935PVPU2APC5.
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I have Ota's stopped, but i haveapb5.
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Root
I have a sneaky suspicion that the Sprint S7 & S7 Edge will end up just like the
ATT Note 5 and S6 Edge/Edge+ phones and will NEVER have root. LOL
I would strongly advice & suggest NOT to get rid of your current rooted phones at least not yet!!!
(unless you buy a different brand which can be rooted)
Have a great day!

El.Dante565 said:
So I've had this thought about this locked bootloader problem. I am not sure if this is a viable solution or whether it would even work. I was thinking that our European brethren has an unlocked bootloader. Would there be a way to Odin their bootloader on our devicesor would the fact that they have a different processor be a problem. Because in theory if we had a Samsung sign Odin file of with an unlocked bootloader we should be able to Odin and have a unlocked bootloader, no? Or is there more to it than that?
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I have the firmware for the Chinese model s7 edge it is the closest match to ours and the firmware will not load in odin. It checks against the model and csc codes so we couldn't even cross flash with t-mobiles firmware. I have the bootloader posted over in t-mobile forums and a few people are poking around to see what can be done. Unfortunately bootloader and hardware hacks are nothing I have ever done before.