Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
2. For those of you who are currently using it have you noticed any issues with battery life? Any difference with connectivity to mobile data.
I look forward to hearing from you guys before I make my purchase and thank you in advance.
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Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
2. For those of you who are currently using it have you noticed any issues with battery life? Any difference with connectivity to mobile data.
I look forward to hearing from you guys before I make my purchase and thank you in advance.
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well if you have made up your mind to get into the party then
1.Yes, it can be rooted fine with toolkit, but still advisable to do it the adb way but toolkit works fine for many who dont want to get into hassle of learning adb stuff
2.for battery it will easily last a day though significant drainage was there with earlier builts on 3g data but it has been solved to some extent now and if you are on wifi no worries
3.if you are not aware of the fact that the next nexus device is there,and expected to release oct/nov so if you want to wait as it comes pre loaded with android L which will get a better name rather than L soon
make your choice :good:
shhbz said:
well if you have made up your mind to get into the party then
1.Yes, it can be rooted fine with toolkit, but still advisable to do it the adb way but toolkit works fine for many who dont want to get into hassle of learning adb stuff
2.for battery it will easily last a day though significant drainage was there with earlier builts on 3g data but it has been solved to some extent now and if you are on wifi no worries
3.if you are not aware of the fact that the next nexus device is there,and expected to release oct/nov so if you want to wait as it comes pre loaded with android L which will get a better name rather than L soon
make your choice :good:
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Thank you so much for your quick reply. If a new nexus will be releasing in 4-5 months and it will have the new android os then I guess I can wait. I hope it stays at the $350 price point. For my personal device I use a galaxy s4 running slimkat and it works fine with slight damage around the edges with the battery lasting an easily 15+ hours with moderate to high use. Again thank you because you saved me $350+ dollars but I'm sure you made it a lot easier for the people who are on the fence still and are looking to get a new phone (who actually need a new device) who were looking to do the same thing.
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Thank you so much for your quick reply. If a new nexus will be releasing in 4-5 months and it will have the new android os then I guess I can wait. I hope it stays at the $350 price point. For my personal device I use a galaxy s4 running slimkat and it works fine with slight damage around the edges with the battery lasting an easily 15+ hours with moderate to high use. Again thank you because you saved me $350+ dollars but I'm sure you made it a lot easier for the people who are on the fence still and are looking to get a new phone (who actually need a new device) who were looking to do the same thing.
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well a s4 is a good enough phone to spend this 4to 5 months of wait till the next beast is release and whatever drawbacks we can conclude from nexus5 though its a user expectation stuff, still expecting few things after the google I/O and expected to sweep all other phone by large
expected:
64bit snapdragon 810/808 render 4K video,/3gb ram/13mega pixel camera/a larger battery
ThatArchVillan said:
Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
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Please do not use a toolkit. If you use a toolkit, you wont learn anything about fastboot. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery via fastboot is ridiculously easy on this phone. If you don't take the time to learn fastboot now, when you get into trouble later on - you wont know what you're doing and when we try to give you instructions if you need to use fastboot to recover, it makes it much more difficult for us to help you fix it.
It's like turning up to a creative writing course, but expecting us to teach you to read first,
Please click the link in my signature and look at section 1a and 1b. To root an unlock your bootloader, section 1b has all you need to know.
It really is as simple as installing fastboot and drivers then running a couple of fastboot commands. Very easy and worth learning.
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Please do not use a toolkit. If you use a toolkit, you wont learn anything about fastboot. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery via fastboot is ridiculously easy on this phone. If you don't take the time to learn fastboot now, when you get into trouble later on - you wont know what you're doing and when we try to give you instructions if you need to use fastboot to recover, it makes it much more difficult for us to help you fix it.
It's like turning up to a creative writing course, but expecting us to teach you to read first,
Please click the link in my signature and look at section 1a and 1b. To root an unlock your bootloader, section 1b has all you need to know.
It really is as simple as installing fastboot and drivers then running a couple of fastboot commands. Very easy and worth learning.
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Thank you for linking that guide. This will be most helpful to those looking to purchase that nexus 5 in the near future. I could go either way at this point. I'd feel real salty if I got it and the nexus 6 comes out a as early as mentioned above. Any set release date on that yet?
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Any set release date on that yet?
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Anything anyone here says about the Nexus 6 is a guess. We do not even know if there will be a Nexus 6 at this point, let alone a release date. If you're concerned about that, wait until November and see what happens. If no Nexus 6 has been announced, get something else.
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Anything anyone here says about the Nexus 6 is a guess. We do not even know if there will be a Nexus 6 at this point, let alone a release date. If you're concerned about that, wait until November and see what happens. If no Nexus 6 has been announced, get something else.
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So I bit and purchased a white 16gig nexus 5. I look forward to doing things properly. I must ask though, is Franco kernel compatible with android L? Also can L be rooted on the nexus 5? I could have sworn there's already a thread created for this question already
L is a preview. It isn't an official release. No source code has been released so no one can develop a kernel for it.
Click the link in my signature. It contains all the important threads including rooting L
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L is a preview. It isn't an official release. No source code has been released so no one can develop a kernel for it.
Click the link in my signature. It contains all the important threads including rooting L
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I have all the guides open so I'll refer to that when the phone comes in later on in the week. I guess I could use cpu tuner after I gain root access. Hows L been working out for you so far on your device?
Don't buy a Nexus 5 just because the developer preview for L is here.
too late lol. and my GS4 is really beat up so I was looking to try out a nexus phone anyway. Thanks rootSU for including guides in the sig. they really helped and made the process really smooth and easy. going to be using this for awhile. hopefully battery isnt too bad on L. if so prolly put that slimrom on there
Few apps don't work presently but that goes without saying. Battery life is not bad at all. Sure do miss pie launcher and changing icon size from slimkat but I'll manage
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I've not tried L. I'll just wait for the slim release most likely.
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Okay, so I know this phone doesn't exactly win the spec war, but it's awesome and would make a fantastic rooted phone. Unfortunately there isn't a forum here on XDA for the device (either because it's too new or there isn't a demand for it)
Do you guys think a forum will be made for this device? It'd be nice to at least have a place to say what root methods DON'T work (I've tried a few)
Thanks for the help, XDA rules!
I second this. I am planning on buying a new phone and after researching numerous phones out there based on my tastes and constraints, I think this phone works very well (another is Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 2). One flaw that I heard is the amount of storage in this phone is around 4gb. Without a way to put apps on an external SD card (which I believe would require a custom ROM), the storage would probably fill up pretty quickly. So it'll be great if XDA opened a forum for this phone.
As a side note if anyone can point to other devices that fit my needs I would be grateful:
- Less than 4.2" screen (preferably 4").
- Android only
I don't have any financial constraints or any favorite companies.
Thanks!
What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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What root method did you find worked? Did you try framaroot? Also have you found any Roms?
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I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)
habitforming said:
I used Motochopper, worked like a charm. make sure you have the LG Optimus f3 drivers on your computer.(found on LG website)
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Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.
richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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richardpwnsner said:
Ratified. Motochopper worked flawlessly for me as well.[/QUOT
Anyone find a tethering ap that works?
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Do tethering apps need to be phone specific? I don't have data, but I'll let you know if I come across one.
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Bad news
I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions
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I have created the recovery tree, and have created a recovery.img for this phone. ok now heres the bad news OUR lg optimus f3 has a stock 3.4 kernel with a locked bootloader. Even worse news is that 3.4 "locking" features a sha5 hash system for its image/partitions (recovery, boot, and bootloader). Even worse news there is no known (or atleast what i know or have heard) way to get around this. The phone will be forever locked until lg updates or allows said lock to be removed. I have flashed the recovery and have had no damage to my device but it just sticks at "unsecure recovery" and does a hard reset (factory restore) every time i try to play with it which is a huge flaw if you ask me.
I have hexedited the bootloader and found that there is indeed "juicy" strings within that may tell to a future unlock these strings being
-Device UnLock!, so Boot Success!!
-oem unlock
-ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode
Also these strings could just be defualt with all lg bootloaders meaning....there is no hope.
My phone is without a soul and I will never be buy lg again.
If anyone is able to get into fastboot
1. PM ME
2. run : fastboot oem unlock
Again root for this phone works great as long as you dont touch recovery, bootloader, or boot partitions
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Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.
richardpwnsner said:
Ugh. Thanks for the work. This is bad news indeed. I'll keep poking around and let you know if I find anything.
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Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .
Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!
jjfad said:
Will motochopper work on any carrier version of this phone? Thanks!
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I've seen confirmations on three carriers (can't remember which ones off the top of my head, sorry [edit-well, T-Mobile and Virgin Mobile come to mind now]), so I'd assume the answer is yes. Regardless, I have yet to see anyone complain about adverse affects, so no reason not to try (though, grain of salt—I'm brand new to android).
For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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Steve5400 said:
For anyone that has this, how are the antennas on this phone?
I just ordered one from tmo and am hoping to get better reception at my house than from my Samsung or HTC.
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They seem better and with WIFI calling built in the phone hasn't skipped a beat.
Check my way!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2420178&highlight=rooting+lg+optimus+f3
I failed rooting my phone with Windows system, maybe cause I'm not familiar with the process or I was just to lazy, but it does work if you use motochopper. Try looking it up youtube. You could try my method, it should work on Jellybean 4.1.2!
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Out of curiosity, any chance Loki would work? I'd be willing to give it a go if there's a decent chance—still within the 14 day exchange window .
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BAHAHA me to man i think im down to 10 days. Im trying to get some attention but i need someone who knows little endian, and their way around bootloaders. Id be willing to donate to someone who can help me out, also to support the other 3 variants (if the aboot differs).
I have a recovery created also and a device tree (needs gpio support for kernel).
And to awnser your question, yes loki will work IF i can get the needed values so that when recovery/boot is read into memory that it overwrites the security check feature in aboot. If the wrong values are give you may end up with a brick (very slim chance)
My return window just closed . If it helps, you can pull the open source from LG's website and merge it with the android source. I also discovered an even easier solution: set up the LG Sync application, and select the "upgrade recovery option". Then, when it begins downloading, remove your phone, set Windows (or your relevant OS) to show hidden files and folders, and go the the Program Data folder. There should be something like "PHONEAX" under the LG Electronics folder that will contain the full stock kdz file when the download is complete.
It's really kind of surprising that there's absolutely no dev love out there for the F3. I suppose it's because the phone is entry level, but it's really not that bad but for the storage. I got it as a gift, so no complaints here—of course, if anyone wants to donate a Note or Galaxy gratis, I suppose I'd be willing to switch .
I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.
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I had a Galaxy S4 from Verizon. I switched to T-Mobile Because believe it or not the network is stronger where I work. Also, there pricing on plans cannot be beat. But, I digress. The Galaxy S4 being a Verizon device never really functioned the way it was supposed to on T-Mobiles network. It was unlocked however was still useless for 4G LTE and while I could do better than edge in some places, those places were few and far between. I started to assess what it is I actually used my phone for these days. I'm not into modding with custom ROMS and kernels anymore and I'm not much of a multi-tasker either so I decided that I did not need the super power device anymore. The specs on this phone are perfect for what I need my phone to do. Its been a long time since I have gone beyond rooting to remove bloat and tether. I agree that the storage on this sucks. I don't understand why there are any devices anymore that come with less than 32gb internal. storage is the cheapest thing that can be added to a device and its not as though it uses much physical space. other than the storage I will say that I am impressed with the quality of this device and I don't know that I would even put this as low as "entry level device." I would say its more of a mid-grade device. I am also happy with the reception on this device and its nice to have a compact phone again that actually fits comfortably in my hand and on my belt.
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No argument here. I like it well enough, but I'm (1) a closet geek; and (2) a heavy multitasker, so given the option I'd prefer something with more screen space (I just graduated from law school, so I do a lot of reading on the go). As a phone, however, you really couldn't ask for more—the size otherwise pretty much perfect, it's relatively snappy with most applications, and once debloated the stock launcher is pretty good.
That being said, the second I see a safe way to deal with the bootloader pop up, I'm diving in, no question .
Decided to share my home screens.
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Hello Fellow XDA Members,
I am about to purchase my T-Mobile LG G2 as of tomorrow. Coming over from a Nexus 4 rooted / stock / Xposed. I am very excited about. This phone really caught my eye from beginning against the advice of my friends to wait for the Galaxy S5. This is the one I want. Of course there are tons of perks to being rooted and it's usually the first thing I do when I get a new phone. One thing I noticed about this phone is there doesn't seem to be an inclusive *ROOT* thread and I am not sure where to start other than the regular stuff; ADB enabled, drivers installed, etc. Also I know this phone is in sort of a transitional update to Android 4.0 presently (although this doesn't apply to T-Mobile as of this writing). So, I guess what I am looking for is.
1. Can someone link me a solid thread to ROOT instructions for the T-Mobile variant or is it carrier specific? Does it even matter?
2. Are there any special things I should know about like ( I recently helped a friend fix his LG Optimus due to the fact that he did not have an unlocked bootloader, rooted it and uninstalled system apps and got himself in a bootloop / soft brick) because the phone had some special *EVIL* software that would do that without first unlocking the bootloader.
3. Is there any "going back" from root on the LG G2? I mean I was reading something about root detecting, warranty voiding software. So, in other words if I get the device tomorrow and have it rooted by tomorrow night, then over the weekend I notice a weird glitch that would be covered under warranty, am I S.O.L. because I rooted it or can I flash back to stock and unroot and RMA the device?
4. Anything else I should know about that is an issue for the LG G2 during the root / romming process or otherwise.
Also I would like to thank everyone again. Going on my 4th device using only XDA as my source of info and help and still 100% HARD brick free and I plan to keep it that way. IMHO I don't see how people use phones unrooted. Thanks for the help! See you around the forums.
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Hello Fellow XDA Members,
I am about to purchase my T-Mobile LG G2 as of tomorrow. Coming over from a Nexus 4 rooted / stock / Xposed. I am very excited about. This phone really caught my eye from beginning against the advice of my friends to wait for the Galaxy S5. This is the one I want. Of course there are tons of perks to being rooted and it's usually the first thing I do when I get a new phone. One thing I noticed about this phone is there doesn't seem to be an inclusive *ROOT* thread and I am not sure where to start other than the regular stuff; ADB enabled, drivers installed, etc. Also I know this phone is in sort of a transitional update to Android 4.0 presently (although this doesn't apply to T-Mobile as of this writing). So, I guess what I am looking for is.
1. Can someone link me a solid thread to ROOT instructions for the T-Mobile variant or is it carrier specific? Does it even matter?
2. Are there any special things I should know about like ( I recently helped a friend fix his LG Optimus due to the fact that he did not have an unlocked bootloader, rooted it and uninstalled system apps and got himself in a bootloop / soft brick) because the phone had some special *EVIL* software that would do that without first unlocking the bootloader.
3. Is there any "going back" from root on the LG G2? I mean I was reading something about root detecting, warranty voiding software. So, in other words if I get the device tomorrow and have it rooted by tomorrow night, then over the weekend I notice a weird glitch that would be covered under warranty, am I S.O.L. because I rooted it or can I flash back to stock and unroot and RMA the device?
4. Anything else I should know about that is an issue for the LG G2 during the root / romming process or otherwise.
Also I would like to thank everyone again. Going on my 4th device using only XDA as my source of info and help and still 100% HARD brick free and I plan to keep it that way. IMHO I don't see how people use phones unrooted. Thanks for the help! See you around the forums.
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Awesome phone and great choice I totally agree.
Proceed with caution though, I have extensive experience with android phones and this one has turned into a flourishing source of nightmares for me and is seeming to head towards a total "paperweight" story. This all stems from rooting and recovery installation and such obviously, I am sure if you leave it untouched it is fantastic.
Just make sure you follow things EXACTLY as told. :good:
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Awesome phone and great choice I totally agree.
Proceed with caution though, I have extensive experience with android phones and this one has turned into a flourishing source of nightmares for me and is seeming to head towards a total "paperweight" story. This all stems from rooting and recovery installation and such obviously, I am sure if you leave it untouched it is fantastic.
Just make sure you follow things EXACTLY as told. :good:
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Well, I'm not one to ever leave anything untouched. What has been the main issue? Finding credible threads? Roms, etc? One thing confusing for me is I've been kinda used to the T-Mobile thread or the AT&T thread. Seems like this is mostly compiled into one with the development section being separated.
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Well, I'm not one to ever leave anything untouched. What has been the main issue? Finding credible threads? Roms, etc? One thing confusing for me is I've been kinda used to the T-Mobile thread or the AT&T thread. Seems like this is mostly compiled into one with the development section being separated.
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Neither am I trust me. i would never sport a locked/crippled/stock device.
There is a lot of info out there honestly. Search for Ioroot and read about that, it's pretty awesome basically an automated rooting software.
Hardest thing for me has been all kind of compatibility/driver issues. Had to use multiple computers, x64 and x86 architectures.
But there are obviously loads of people out there enjoying this phone. I am just part of the select few who had issues.
You should go for it seriously, the display is breathtaking, I have pretty large hands and this is the first time I have had one that feels just perfect in one hand which is huge to me. Can't comment much on the using of it since it only worked for about a day and a half before i wrecked it apparently .
It seems very intuitive though, the camera is really awesome too. Being a photographer I was really impressed by the menu flow and the amount of options you have. Its really amazing that they include cameras like these at the price the phone sells for.
Is it dangerous to uninstall system apps or LG apps once rooted? On my friends Optimus that's what jacked him up. If you didn't have an unlocked bootloader and you just simply rooted and removed system apps then you would get a soft brick. Is there any similar issues here?
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Hello, I'm a newbie and I don't know if this has been posted before.
I was planning to buy Nexus 5 in couple of days but I heard that after 4.4.3 update, the device is experiencing certain issues with WiFi and some other stuffs. My work solely depends upon WiFi . Some say that phone has become a bit laggy too.
Just wanted to ask when I receive my Nexus 5, is it possible to upgrade 4.4 to 4.4.2? Instead of 4.4.3?
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Hello, I'm a newbie and I don't know if this has been posted before.
I was planning to buy Nexus 5 in couple of days but I heard that after 4.4.3 update, the device is experiencing certain issues with WiFi and some other stuffs. My work solely depends upon WiFi . Some say that phone has become a bit laggy too.
Just wanted to ask when I receive my Nexus 5, is it possible to upgrade 4.4 to 4.4.2? Instead of 4.4.3?
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I don't know about others but for me, it actually improved several things, like that bug that let apps running with 0b of ram usage, also battery and I see no lag whatsoever (with any version).
If you reeeeeally want to flash directly 4.4.2 I think that you can either get the older OTA (you can get it here in XDA) or flash the complete stock image 4.4.2, you can download it from Google's official page (Google search nexus stock images).
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I don't know about others but for me, it actually improved several things, like that bug that let apps running with 0b of ram usage, also battery and I see no lag whatsoever (with any version).
If you reeeeeally want to flash directly 4.4.2 I think that you can either get the older OTA (you can get it here in XDA) or flash the complete stock image 4.4.2, you can download it from Google's official page (Google search nexus stock images).
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When I searched "nexus 4.4.2 update download" on google, it showed something like "factory images for nexus devices". Did u mean that?
As I told you earlier, I'm a newbie. I don't understand properly what you are saying. Can you please explain what to do?
And.. Is there any risk? Installing this cause any problem in the phone? Do mention that..
PrakharM said:
When I searched "nexus 4.4.2 update download" on google, it showed something like "factory images for nexus devices". Did u mean that?
As I told you earlier, I'm a newbie. I don't understand properly what you are saying. Can you please explain what to do?
And.. Is there any risk? Installing this cause any problem in the phone? Do mention that..
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When you buy a new Nexus 5, it should come with Android 4.4.3. If you have any concerns about the bugs and performance, and would rather have 4.4.2, you can flash that on there instead. Completely stock, original version of Android are called factory images.
Since you're buying it new out of the box, it should be no issues nor risks, with downgrading it to 4.4.2. When you buy it, before you do anything to it, please come back to this forum and explore or ask questions about how to do so. Doing any changes to the phone is much easier when you just bought it. So don't do anything to it, don't install any apps or whatever, other than sign in to your Google account on the first start up. Then come back here and we'll do our best to help you out.
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Hello, I'm a newbie and I don't know if this has been posted before.
I was planning to buy Nexus 5 in couple of days but I heard that after 4.4.3 update, the device is experiencing certain issues with WiFi and some other stuffs. My work solely depends upon WiFi . Some say that phone has become a bit laggy too.
Just wanted to ask when I receive my Nexus 5, is it possible to upgrade 4.4 to 4.4.2? Instead of 4.4.3?
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I've never had any issues with wifi nor lag even with 4.4.2.
When I took it out of the box I was highly disappointed coming from a S3 and a Note 1. Volume of the speaker was really low and dpi of the screen way to high. Hey, it's a HD screen and I am not blind (yet)
The above issues can be fixed by rooting it and messing with the values. Makes it 100% better.
But, I am still in the process of getting my money back from Google (getting the run around for a month now).
Recording video is useless. In 4.4.2 there was a hiss in the audio which was fixed in 4.4.3. but now recordings sound like they were made underwater. Listen to this with the headphones on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjQYXtU7auM
The optical stabilisation is also bad. The image wobbles and is useless for me as I am grabbing my Note 1 to record video at the moment.
If the above doesn't apply to you, then for the money it is an awesome phone
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When I searched "nexus 4.4.2 update download" on google, it showed something like "factory images for nexus devices". Did u mean that?
As I told you earlier, I'm a newbie. I don't understand properly what you are saying. Can you please explain what to do?
And.. Is there any risk? Installing this cause any problem in the phone? Do mention that..
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yeah sorry didn't remember the newbie part haha.
Then if you really don't know what I'm talking about, you should stay stock and in the newest version for your phone (right now being 4.4.3).
Usually there is no risk when installing ROMs or other things, however you should just read a lot right now, read what flash is, bootloader, Roms, root, etc. to learn and reduce the risks you might encounter. You can start with the stickies threads in the general section.
When you learn at least the basics, then you can start to worry about what version you can use, what radio, etc.
But first enjoy your phone as is out of the box, it might be better than you think. ?
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fxdil said:
When you buy a new Nexus 5, it should come with Android 4.4.3. If you have any concerns about the bugs and performance, and would rather have 4.4.2, you can flash that on there instead. Completely stock, original version of Android are called factory images.
Since you're buying it new out of the box, it should be no issues nor risks, with downgrading it to 4.4.2. When you buy it, before you do anything to it, please come back to this forum and explore or ask questions about how to do so. Doing any changes to the phone is much easier when you just bought it. So don't do anything to it, don't install any apps or whatever, other than sign in to your Google account on the first start up. Then come back here and we'll do our best to help you out.
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I just ordered 2 Nexus 5's off of the Play Store last Friday (June 13th). When they showed up they were running 4.4.2. However, they were the Bright Red 32GB ones as the Black 32GB's were out of stock at the time. It now looks like the Black ones are back in stock so it's possible that they have been updated to 4.4.3
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I just ordered 2 Nexus 5's off of the Play Store last Friday (June 13th). When they showed up they were running 4.4.2. However, they were the Bright Red 32GB ones as the Black 32GB's were out of stock at the time. It now looks like the Black ones are back in stock so it's possible that they have been updated to 4.4.3
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Odds are no. They most likely won't come with 4.4.3 unless they were made after the update came out. Just try settings/about phone/system updates. There is a refresh button try it once a day update should come soon. I flashed back to stock 4.4.2 and it showed up right away. I haven't seen any of the issues some are taking about. Take it all with a grain of salt no one posts abbot no problems... They only complain about issues.
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I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
mulderato said:
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
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By posting in this section here
mulderato said:
I appreciate any help you experts can give... links and videos. I'm running out of time and don't have enough to research everything... so I hate asking but I have to... I leave in 4 days and this device is still in the box.
My trusty and loved Nexus 6 of 4 years finally burned its charging port out and until the Pixel 3 hits.. I bought an S8 Plus. The model I have is G955u1z an unlocked S8+ I picked up from Best Buy. I hate to admit it but its been so long since I've done any flashing /updating because I had my N6 so well tuned.. that I'm rusty and at a loss of where to begin. Yes I'm searching, yes I'm googling and youtubing but often I am finding methods that aren't for the unlocked version and I don't want to go from box to brick in 3 days. For reference this device will be hooked up to my Verizon account.. I'm still using my N6 for the moment (thankfully it has Qi.. which has kept me from upgrading to a new Nexus or Pixel since). I understand that I will loose Knox.. and Samsung pay. Had to find out what that even was but don't think i would use it anyway.
So what is my first step? Update to the latest stock rom? Install TWRP immediatly? I see that there is something new.. Magisk but I'm not fully grasping it I guess to know if its better than Su, but from what i gather you can hide root from apps with it? Advantages/Disadvanatages? I'm also a dedicated Xposed user also, so that is a must to have. I really prefer the stock android experience but it seems most run the Renovate Ice 3.0 rom? Is there a way to make the other speaker work instead of that downward firing single one? Gesture navigation from the Pixel?
Please pick through guys... if you can help with anything I am in your debt. Just bad luck/bad timing when I should be excited about a new shiny.
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there is 1 rooted rom but no twrp maybe safestrap but we have locked bootloaders so no good
Check out partcyborg rom
Wait...... lol.. you mean that the Snapdragon versions... even carrier unlocked still have locked bootloaders? ohhhhhgod...I can't live with this device in stock form.
mulderato said:
Wait...... lol.. you mean that the Snapdragon versions... even carrier unlocked still have locked bootloaders? ohhhhhgod...I can't live with this device in stock form.
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Yes it's horrible
Is there any TWRP development coming to is phone?? Feel like it's gone back to galaxy s one days before twrp was invented. What the wtf, we going backwards?
Was given the impression the pixel 7 pro was the bees nees of dev but feels like a phone in chains. Do I need to carry a laptop around to flash a ROM . Wtf!
the s23 ultra has an unofficial twrp build already and the pixel 7 pro nadda.
I feel I want to return this and get something that actually has possibilities. This is ****. I want to play with different roms they look good but with the trouble of not being able to flash on the fly, flash majisk, I have no interest in flashing these days, seems to trouble some. Pixels feels like they are just in locks and chains. Not happy so far at all with this phone.
I'm currently on calyx os and if I flash magisk from a computer I can't take the OTA, where if I had TWRP recovery I can just flash OTA or file.zip and the majisk and done. Feel like this phone is a step backwards. That do you think?
Just thought I'd ramble on a bit about my upsets. No pun intended. But to thoughs who made this harder
There just haven't been a need for TWRP as of now, since you can/need to do most things via a computer and a cable. Factory images updates for example, cannot be flashed via TWRP.
Other ROMs such as LOS or Evox has their own recovery implementation. Which is incompatible as well
yurishouse said:
There just haven't been a need for TWRP as of now, since you can/need to do most things via a computer and a cable. Factory images updates for example, cannot be flashed via TWRP.
Other ROMs such as LOS or Evox has their own recovery implementation. Which is incompatible as well
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If twrp was available right now I would flash it without a heartbeat. Flash roms like nobody's watching. And be greatfull I didn't need my laptop for such things.
prana_Sky said:
Is there any TWRP development coming to is phone?? Feel like it's gone back to galaxy s one days before twrp was invented. What the wtf, we going backwards?
Was given the impression the pixel 7 pro was the bees nees of dev but feels like a phone in chains. Do I need to carry a laptop around to flash a ROM . Wtf!
the s23 ultra has an unofficial twrp build already and the pixel 7 pro nadda.
I feel I want to return this and get something that actually has possibilities. This is ****. I want to play with different roms they look good but with the trouble of not being able to flash on the fly, flash majisk, I have no interest in flashing these days, seems to trouble some. Pixels feels like they are just in locks and chains. Not happy so far at all with this phone.
I'm currently on calyx os and if I flash magisk from a computer I can't take the OTA, where if I had TWRP recovery I can just flash OTA or file.zip and the majisk and done. Feel like this phone is a step backwards. That do you think?
Just thought I'd ramble on a bit about my upsets. No pun intended. But to thoughs who made this harder
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I might be wrong but the s23 series is probably the last who will get twrp too.
I think twrp on a/b devices is not a big thing and google forces any device released with android13 to be an a/b device.
And TWRP is generally of little use on Pixel devices, which do not have a recovery partition. Since the bootloaders are easily unlocked and accept flashing commands, firmware can be flashed via ADB.
xtcislove said:
I might be wrong but the s23 series is probably the last who will get twrp too.
I think twrp on a/b devices is not a big thing and google forces any device released with android13 to be an a/b device.
And TWRP is generally of little use on Pixel devices, which do not have a recovery partition. Since the bootloaders are easily unlocked and accept flashing commands, firmware can be flashed via ADB.
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What you mean not a big thing? What? bootloaders unlocked. Every mainstream phone has bootloader's to unlock. There are many ab devices with twrp.?
In a few years it seems flashing a ROM will be a thing of the past. Google android is sailing the way to an island with no food. Android is dead. I think i'll have to go back to my op5t for the full fruits of life. There is no life here.
prana_Sky said:
What you mean not a big thing? What? bootloaders unlocked. Every mainstream phone has bootloader's to unlock. There are many ab devices with twrp.?
In a few years it seems flashing a ROM will be a thing of the past. Google android is sailing the way to an island with no food. Android is dead. I think i'll have to go back to my op5t for the full fruits of life. There is no life here.
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The last devices im using had trouble with TWRP. (OnePlus 8 Pro, Nothing Phone 1, Pixel 7 Pro)All A/B Devices.
Im fine with using my computer to install roms.
If having twrp is such a big deal for you, you should not pick devices that dont have it.
The Pixel 5 was the last Pixel with twrp.
xtcislove said:
The last devices im using had trouble with TWRP. (OnePlus 8 Pro, Nothing Phone 1, Pixel 7 Pro)All A/B Devices.
Im fine with using my computer to install roms.
If having twrp is such a big deal for you, you should not pick devices that dont have it.
The Pixel 5 was the last Pixel with twrp.
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Well, I didn't have a chance at the time to study what the pixel 7 pro would or would not have. And had to take a luck dip at the time.
I guess I'm just used to using twrp for such a long time and now new pixel are feeling old.
prana_Sky said:
Well, I didn't have a chance at the time to study what the pixel 7 pro would or would not have. And had to take a luck dip at the time.
I guess I'm just used to using twrp for such a long time and now new pixel are feeling old.
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I understand this. Im Here since 2010 and used a Huawei p30 pro a Long Time. It is a great device without root/bootloader unlock. I came Back with a oneplus 8 pro without twrp easy hard/soft bricks and more.
We have to adapt.
Nandroid FTW
HipKat said:
Nandroid FTW
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What's Ftw?
prana_Sky said:
What's Ftw?
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For The Win as opposed to the other option, I'd guess... Using that old thing called Google. Before getting a new device I always have a quick check on XDA as to what kind of support/ROM etc development is being done. Only takes a moment, just like the search I did for you. No need to rant, just change your device then. Job done!
It's really a backwards for Google without TWRP's support. Very Badly.
reg66 said:
For The Win as opposed to the other option, I'd guess... Using that old thing called Google. Before getting a new device I always have a quick check on XDA as to what kind of support/ROM etc development is being done. Only takes a moment, just like the search I did for you. No need to rant, just change your device then. Job done!
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Yeah, as I mention on a few posts above. If you read properly which only takes a moment, i didn't have time to do a full examination on this phone. But I did a brief one and thought it may come to it's senses down the line like all the other phones I ever owned. But Nuh doesn't look like this one is going anywhere in terms of twrp recovery. Or any recovery that helps the user flash on the fly.
I will rant on about it, that's why I created this thread so we can rant. If you not happy to rant don't rant. Lol
tnchng said:
It's really a backwards for Google without TWRP's support. Very Badly.
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Yeah, sad and restricting. Don't know how anyone can think this is a step in the right direction, really.
Tinkering with your phone without having a proper Nandroid backup is a no go, for me.
So far this phone is not what I expected it to be. Came from a OnePlus 7 Pro. Is it smoother? Probably, can't really notice. It is faster in regular use? Well no. Are the cameras better? Sure. Can I really play with it like you should be able to on a rooted phone without any fears of losing hours and hours of time? No, 'cause no TWRP/Nandroid.
Real shame.
prana_Sky said:
Yeah, as I mention on a few posts above. If you read properly which only takes a moment, i didn't have time to do a full examination on this phone. But I did a brief one and thought it may come to it's senses down the line like all the other phones I ever owned. But Nuh doesn't look like this one is going anywhere in terms of twrp recovery. Or any recovery that helps the user flash on the fly.
I will rant on about it, that's why I created this thread so we can rant. If you not happy to rant don't rant. Lol
Yeah, sad and restricting. Don't know how anyone can think this is a step in the right direction, really.
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Yeah dude, I did read the thread... Seriously, you bought a pretty expensive device without taking just 2-5 mins to check up briefly about the device. Rant away my friend, rant away. Doesn't bother me, just sharing my 2 cents!!
FWIW I do actually agree with you, twrp is becoming harder and harder to flash with various methods, banking apps are detecting unlocked BL's etc. It is becoming a bit of a nightmare!
prana_Sky said:
Is there any TWRP development coming to is phone?? Feel like it's gone back to galaxy s one days before twrp was invented. What the wtf, we going backwards?
Was given the impression the pixel 7 pro was the bees nees of dev but feels like a phone in chains. Do I need to carry a laptop around to flash a ROM . Wtf!
the s23 ultra has an unofficial twrp build already and the pixel 7 pro nadda.
I feel I want to return this and get something that actually has possibilities. This is ****. I want to play with different roms they look good but with the trouble of not being able to flash on the fly, flash majisk, I have no interest in flashing these days, seems to trouble some. Pixels feels like they are just in locks and chains. Not happy so far at all with this phone.
I'm currently on calyx os and if I flash magisk from a computer I can't take the OTA, where if I had TWRP recovery I can just flash OTA or file.zip and the majisk and done. Feel like this phone is a step backwards. That do you think?
Just thought I'd ramble on a bit about my upsets. No pun intended. But to thoughs who made this harder
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According to TWRP website, "is done by roughly 4 people at this point." For all other phones and everything else, they depend on volunteer "maintainers" as "We can’t afford to buy every device made" (source: their website About & FAQs). So if you wish to learn to become a "maintainer" to bring it to the P7P, or commission an expert to voluntarily "port" it to this device....
This is how TWRP comes to devices. It's not like Google pays them, or anyone pays them to get it on devices, so ranting and demanding it with that expectation is unfounded. Also, it's well established that they have been having issues/problems with the next version of Android each time -- starting from the Pixel 5 when it moved from Android 10 to 11, then by the time they got it working for Android 11, Android 12 was released and they weren't able to get it working for that, and by the the time they were "beta" able to get it working for Android 12, Android 13 released and they are not able to keep up.
HipKat said:
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I do truly miss & regret not having Nandroid backups anymore! It truly was a pure, whole snapshot of your whole setup where, if anything happened, you restore it from there and ABSOLUTELY everything was restored like the second you backed it up...! Nothing now compares....
RIP TWRP you're always missed.
Thankfully Pixel Flasher "kind of" seem to be more and more like TWRP but on the computer. A/B really killed TWRP hard.
Really, after my OnePlus with its quirks and requirements, the 7P seems like a breeze to flash and root...
reg66 said:
Yeah dude, I did read the thread... Seriously, you bought a pretty expensive device without taking just 2-5 mins to check up briefly about the device. Rant away my friend, rant away. Doesn't bother me, just sharing my 2 cents!!
FWIW I do actually agree with you, twrp is becoming harder and harder to flash with various methods, banking apps are detecting unlocked BL's etc. It is becoming a bit of a nightmare!
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Mate, you don't know my situation so don't tell me what I should have done. Simple