Database Info

[Q] Looking at getting a G2, have some questions.

Ok, so my girlfriend currently has a G2.. She got it about a month or so ago, I know her version was 4.2.2. So I looked into rooting and saw that it was possible. I'm coming from a Gnex, so root and rom is important to me. Anyway.. Now I hear that the new AT&T G2's are shipping with 4.4.2? And loki is not working currently with that so there is no way to downgrade and root? Is that the correct understanding? Also, are they shipping with 4.4.2 or is it still just an OTA update they do while in store at AT&T buying one? Because my buddy works at AT&T and if it is just the OTA, I will just have him leave it at 4.2.2 for me and root and rom it from there, since that seems much easier.
Also I saw something about a 838 firmware that currently doesn't support root?
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Chris.

If it comes with 4.4 you can go back to 4.2 through download mode using this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663369 . Then root and install recovery. Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2520419 for some videos on that. Then you can flash a modified stock 4.4 that keeps the 4.2 bootloader and root/recovery intact here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672931. Or flash any of the many 4.2 4.4 custom roms available. There are other ways to go about this but it works for me. Just takes quite a while to download the files the first time to do it! :laugh: Also, if you decide to do this and go with the stock 4.4 firmware AT&T has a small patch they're pushing now that you'll want to block. You can just freeze the software update using TiBu.

I have been liking my G2 but I would (and will soon) jump to another phone, like the M8 or N6, the dev support is decent but there are some far outstanding issues with this phone and kitkat, seems like something always not working right i.e. hotspot, auto-rotate, volume, process com,gapps errors, etc,

Not necessarily
ossito2012 said:
I have been liking my G2 but I would (and will soon) jump to another phone, like the M8 or N6, the dev support is decent but there are some far outstanding issues with this phone and kitkat, seems like something always not working right i.e. hotspot, auto-rotate, volume, process com,gapps errors, etc,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got my LG G2 a week ago and I'll tell you I didn't have any problems with it, however I did downgrade and put an older version of CM 10 for the D80010d on my phone, not knowing that you can upgrade while maintaining the bootloader, as described above. I did notice that my gps didn't work after that, my tethering didn't work and while using wifi hotspot I was unable to load google or facebook, meaning I can't access my e-mail from my computer. I get SSL error's on https:// sites and sometimes I can proceed anyway, while other times I can't load it at all. however these sites load fine on my phone.

Stable
My LG G2 is completely stable on latest stock ROM and CM nightly. Honestly, I haven't run into any trouble.
Remember, when you are flashing - try clearing cache.

J0hnC0nn3r said:
I got my LG G2 a week ago and I'll tell you I didn't have any problems with it, however I did downgrade and put an older version of CM 10 for the D80010d on my phone, not knowing that you can upgrade while maintaining the bootloader, as described above. I did notice that my gps didn't work after that, my tethering didn't work and while using wifi hotspot I was unable to load google or facebook, meaning I can't access my e-mail from my computer. I get SSL error's on https:// sites and sometimes I can proceed anyway, while other times I can't load it at all. however these sites load fine on my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ainstushar said:
My LG G2 is completely stable on latest stock ROM and CM nightly. Honestly, I haven't run into any trouble.
Remember, when you are flashing - try clearing cache.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with you guys for most part phone is 95% good, don't really think it is devs fault but LG is making this phone a pain in the ass to play with, I would think with Samsung allowing the Htc One and G2 to sneak in beat their S4, LG would seize the moment to open up the phone to be truly customized. Looking at HTC One M8 forums it seems HTC is not putting up stupid barriers to rooting and stuff. Imagine a HTC Nexus 6

considering purchasing nexus 5

Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
2. For those of you who are currently using it have you noticed any issues with battery life? Any difference with connectivity to mobile data.
I look forward to hearing from you guys before I make my purchase and thank you in advance.

ThatArchVillan said:
Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
2. For those of you who are currently using it have you noticed any issues with battery life? Any difference with connectivity to mobile data.
I look forward to hearing from you guys before I make my purchase and thank you in advance.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well if you have made up your mind to get into the party then
1.Yes, it can be rooted fine with toolkit, but still advisable to do it the adb way but toolkit works fine for many who dont want to get into hassle of learning adb stuff
2.for battery it will easily last a day though significant drainage was there with earlier builts on 3g data but it has been solved to some extent now and if you are on wifi no worries
3.if you are not aware of the fact that the next nexus device is there,and expected to release oct/nov so if you want to wait as it comes pre loaded with android L which will get a better name rather than L soon
make your choice :good:

shhbz said:
well if you have made up your mind to get into the party then
1.Yes, it can be rooted fine with toolkit, but still advisable to do it the adb way but toolkit works fine for many who dont want to get into hassle of learning adb stuff
2.for battery it will easily last a day though significant drainage was there with earlier builts on 3g data but it has been solved to some extent now and if you are on wifi no worries
3.if you are not aware of the fact that the next nexus device is there,and expected to release oct/nov so if you want to wait as it comes pre loaded with android L which will get a better name rather than L soon
make your choice :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you so much for your quick reply. If a new nexus will be releasing in 4-5 months and it will have the new android os then I guess I can wait. I hope it stays at the $350 price point. For my personal device I use a galaxy s4 running slimkat and it works fine with slight damage around the edges with the battery lasting an easily 15+ hours with moderate to high use. Again thank you because you saved me $350+ dollars but I'm sure you made it a lot easier for the people who are on the fence still and are looking to get a new phone (who actually need a new device) who were looking to do the same thing.

ThatArchVillan said:
Thank you so much for your quick reply. If a new nexus will be releasing in 4-5 months and it will have the new android os then I guess I can wait. I hope it stays at the $350 price point. For my personal device I use a galaxy s4 running slimkat and it works fine with slight damage around the edges with the battery lasting an easily 15+ hours with moderate to high use. Again thank you because you saved me $350+ dollars but I'm sure you made it a lot easier for the people who are on the fence still and are looking to get a new phone (who actually need a new device) who were looking to do the same thing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well a s4 is a good enough phone to spend this 4to 5 months of wait till the next beast is release and whatever drawbacks we can conclude from nexus5 though its a user expectation stuff, still expecting few things after the google I/O and expected to sweep all other phone by large
expected:
64bit snapdragon 810/808 render 4K video,/3gb ram/13mega pixel camera/a larger battery

ThatArchVillan said:
Very tempted to purchase one now with the android l beta out. A few questions (as I'm sure many have who are in the same predicament) before I do:
1. Since I'm purchasing one from Google play and it comes pre loaded with latest kit kat version, can this device's boot loader be unlocked and rooted using various all in one toolkits that are currently out there?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please do not use a toolkit. If you use a toolkit, you wont learn anything about fastboot. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery via fastboot is ridiculously easy on this phone. If you don't take the time to learn fastboot now, when you get into trouble later on - you wont know what you're doing and when we try to give you instructions if you need to use fastboot to recover, it makes it much more difficult for us to help you fix it.
It's like turning up to a creative writing course, but expecting us to teach you to read first,
Please click the link in my signature and look at section 1a and 1b. To root an unlock your bootloader, section 1b has all you need to know.
It really is as simple as installing fastboot and drivers then running a couple of fastboot commands. Very easy and worth learning.

rootSU said:
Please do not use a toolkit. If you use a toolkit, you wont learn anything about fastboot. Unlocking the bootloader and flashing a recovery via fastboot is ridiculously easy on this phone. If you don't take the time to learn fastboot now, when you get into trouble later on - you wont know what you're doing and when we try to give you instructions if you need to use fastboot to recover, it makes it much more difficult for us to help you fix it.
It's like turning up to a creative writing course, but expecting us to teach you to read first,
Please click the link in my signature and look at section 1a and 1b. To root an unlock your bootloader, section 1b has all you need to know.
It really is as simple as installing fastboot and drivers then running a couple of fastboot commands. Very easy and worth learning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you for linking that guide. This will be most helpful to those looking to purchase that nexus 5 in the near future. I could go either way at this point. I'd feel real salty if I got it and the nexus 6 comes out a as early as mentioned above. Any set release date on that yet?

ThatArchVillan said:
Any set release date on that yet?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Anything anyone here says about the Nexus 6 is a guess. We do not even know if there will be a Nexus 6 at this point, let alone a release date. If you're concerned about that, wait until November and see what happens. If no Nexus 6 has been announced, get something else.

rootSU said:
Anything anyone here says about the Nexus 6 is a guess. We do not even know if there will be a Nexus 6 at this point, let alone a release date. If you're concerned about that, wait until November and see what happens. If no Nexus 6 has been announced, get something else.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I bit and purchased a white 16gig nexus 5. I look forward to doing things properly. I must ask though, is Franco kernel compatible with android L? Also can L be rooted on the nexus 5? I could have sworn there's already a thread created for this question already

L is a preview. It isn't an official release. No source code has been released so no one can develop a kernel for it.
Click the link in my signature. It contains all the important threads including rooting L
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

rootSU said:
L is a preview. It isn't an official release. No source code has been released so no one can develop a kernel for it.
Click the link in my signature. It contains all the important threads including rooting L
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have all the guides open so I'll refer to that when the phone comes in later on in the week. I guess I could use cpu tuner after I gain root access. Hows L been working out for you so far on your device?

Don't buy a Nexus 5 just because the developer preview for L is here.

too late lol. and my GS4 is really beat up so I was looking to try out a nexus phone anyway. Thanks rootSU for including guides in the sig. they really helped and made the process really smooth and easy. going to be using this for awhile. hopefully battery isnt too bad on L. if so prolly put that slimrom on there

Few apps don't work presently but that goes without saying. Battery life is not bad at all. Sure do miss pie launcher and changing icon size from slimkat but I'll manage
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA-FORUM, powered by appyet.com

I've not tried L. I'll just wait for the slim release most likely.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Overloaded RAM

Hey guys, I would really appreciate some help with this. My phone is often extremely laggy, to the point that when it's asleep and I get a phone call, it wouldn't wake up for me to be able to answer it (even though I can hear it ringing) until the person calling hangs up. I know TW is famous for being slow but this is just ridiculous. The only thing I have running in the background with the exception of normal TW stuff is the DS Battery Saver module (only set to control wifi/Data, not killing apps) and yet often I can see that the phone is using more than 2.2GB of RAM (after I've killed everything in the task manager). How can this be? Surely the system itself doesn't need THAT much RAM? I shudder to think what phones with a smaller RAM are like.
I'm running the Thunderbolt ROM (basically just deodexed stock 5.0.1) with Xposed and the "Fix Lollipop Memory Leak" module. Is there anything else I can do? I love the design of this phone but I am close to getting rid of it and going back to Sony which was always smooth as silk. I would prefer to stick to the Note though since I love the design and extra functionalities but what use are them if I have enough time to make a cup of coffee every time I try to do something?

It must be your Rom. I used to love to installed custom rom on my S1 and S2. But at the end of the day, custom roms are all buggy.
Sent from my SM-N915T using XDA Free mobile app

I would agree with you but if anything, it was worse when I was on stock which is why I decided to try a custom rom (and I tried many buggy ones before settling on this). I'm not someone who spend my time flashing various roms just to experiment, it's usually because I find the performance or features lacking.

Have you tried to wipe everything and odin back to stock? Im on stock, unroot, and I dont have any issues yet.
Sent from my SM-N915T using XDA Free mobile app

Alarmmy said:
Have you tried to wipe everything and odin back to stock? Im on stock, unroot, and I dont have any issues yet.
Sent from my SM-N915T using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Same. I just don't even bother with Custom ROMs except if it gives more battery life. KNowing how hard Samsung has worked to make customization harder, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs for my edge.
Also I too have high RAM usage always but it doesn't make my phone any slower or laggier than past Bloatwiz phones. I am on 4.4.4 stock with a bunch of T Mobile stuff disabled.

edo101 said:
Same. I just don't even bother with Custom ROMs except if it gives more battery life. KNowing how hard Samsung has worked to make customization harder, I haven't bothered with custom ROMs for my edge.
Also I too have high RAM usage always but it doesn't make my phone any slower or laggier than past Bloatwiz phones. I am on 4.4.4 stock with a bunch of T Mobile stuff disabled.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I wonder if I should revert back to KitKat. My phone was great when I first got it, even when I had a whole heap of stuff installed. But maybe I'll wait for 5.1.1 first and see if that helps (the 915G still hadn't received 5.1.1 yet).

marcolorenzo said:
Yeah I wonder if I should revert back to KitKat. My phone was great when I first got it, even when I had a whole heap of stuff installed. But maybe I'll wait for 5.1.1 first and see if that helps (the 915G still hadn't received 5.1.1 yet).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I have seen, you can no longer downgrade Android once you update to 5.1.1
Suffice it to say I will see if there is a way to stop my phone from auto updating itself. Kit Kat is working well for me and it retains all the native Edge features that made the Edge different.
I was able to get 6.5 hours screen time with my phone with location turned off and a full day of note taking, facebook, and music

edo101 said:
From what I have seen, you can no longer downgrade Android once you update to 5.1.1
Suffice it to say I will see if there is a way to stop my phone from auto updating itself. Kit Kat is working well for me and it retains all the native Edge features that made the Edge different.
I was able to get 6.5 hours screen time with my phone with location turned off and a full day of note taking, facebook, and music
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
6.5 hours?!? Holy crap, did you play any games at all? I usually last only around 3 hours but that's because I do play quite a lot of games. Anyway, I'm downgrading to 4.4.4 now, hopefully it'll stop acting up.

marcolorenzo said:
6.5 hours?!? Holy crap, did you play any games at all? I usually last only around 3 hours but that's because I do play quite a lot of games. Anyway, I'm downgrading to 4.4.4 now, hopefully it'll stop acting up.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No. Not really. Like I said, I One Noted all day with my S pen, music, facebook alot and Chrome. I managed battery by using power saving mode, turning off location and turning off sync and turning it on every hour for about 5 minutes to get my emails in.
Today I did gaming and art on my Edge and got about 4 hours

edo101 said:
No. Not really. Like I said, I One Noted all day with my S pen, music, facebook alot and Chrome. I managed battery by using power saving mode, turning off location and turning off sync and turning it on every hour for about 5 minutes to get my emails in.
Today I did gaming and art on my Edge and got about 4 hours
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So I've been back on stock 4.4.4 for a few days now. It is simply fantastic! The difference is huge! No problems what so ever now. I would like to stay on this for the life of my phone but I am a little concerned about the lack of security updates (such as Stagefright). What are your thoughts on this?
BTW, I noticed that Android system and kernel often takes up the majority of my battery percentage. Each by between 9-16%. Do you get this as well?

marcolorenzo said:
So I've been back on stock 4.4.4 for a few days now. It is simply fantastic! The difference is huge! No problems what so ever now. I would like to stay on this for the life of my phone but I am a little concerned about the lack of security updates (such as Stagefright). What are your thoughts on this?
BTW, I noticed that Android system and kernel often takes up the majority of my battery percentage. Each by between 9-16%. Do you get this as well?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, thats normal
And don't worry, i got the stagefright update on 4.4.4 and I was on MetroPCS lol. MetroPCS rides on T Mobile, but its just goes to illustrate that you have nothing to worry about. Glad you are enjoying your Note Edge again. Its a shame Samsung forgot they released this beast of a phone. Imagine this thing with the Note 5's but Edged version of the new TW. Nah, makes too much sense for consumers. Doesn't make sense if you are trying to get people to buy new phones.
Anyways just make sure you never upgrade to 5.1.1 That thing is a point of no return

edo101 said:
Yep, thats normal
And don't worry, i got the stagefright update on 4.4.4 and I was on MetroPCS lol. MetroPCS rides on T Mobile, but its just goes to illustrate that you have nothing to worry about. Glad you are enjoying your Note Edge again. Its a shame Samsung forgot they released this beast of a phone. Imagine this thing with the Note 5's but Edged version of the new TW. Nah, makes too much sense for consumers. Doesn't make sense if you are trying to get people to buy new phones.
Anyways just make sure you never upgrade to 5.1.1 That thing is a point of no return
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't even begin to describe how happy I am with my phone right now. I remember a couple of months after I first got it, a friend of mine was watching me use it and commented on how snappy it was. Then more recently, not only did the sluggishness drive me crazy, I was watching others with envy, especially my girlfriend who is rocking my old Z1 Compact which still performs like a little rocket. Anyway, I am now back to loving the Note Edge again. I even prefer it over the new Notes, looks and all.
I just want to ask though, how did you manage to get the Stagefright update without updating the firmware? Software Update in the Settings won't allow me to update at all because "the operating system on my device has been modified in an unauthorised way" (I guess they're talking about the root) and Kies 3 tells me there's a new firmware available which I guess is 5.0.1 again (the N915G still doesn't have 5.1.1 as far as I know).

marcolorenzo said:
I can't even begin to describe how happy I am with my phone right now. I remember a couple of months after I first got it, a friend of mine was watching me use it and commented on how snappy it was. Then more recently, not only did the sluggishness drive me crazy, I was watching others with envy, especially my girlfriend who is rocking my old Z1 Compact which still performs like a little rocket. Anyway, I am now back to loving the Note Edge again. I even prefer it over the new Notes, looks and all.
I just want to ask though, how did you manage to get the Stagefright update without updating the firmware? Software Update in the Settings won't allow me to update at all because "the operating system on my device has been modified in an unauthorised way" (I guess they're talking about the root) and Kies 3 tells me there's a new firmware available which I guess is 5.0.1 again (the N915G still doesn't have 5.1.1 as far as I know).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Um not sure how it works on Sprint or whoever you are on. On MetroPCS/TMobile,it just showed up as an update and updated itself automatically. I didn't actually know what it was till I googled it and people said it was stage fright

I'm in Europe but I bought my phone in Australia unlocked. Maybe I'll just get a virus scanner, that should solve any current and future security issues right?
Sent from my SM-N915G using XDA Free mobile app

marcolorenzo said:
I'm in Europe but I bought my phone in Australia unlocked. Maybe I'll just get a virus scanner, that should solve any current and future security issues right?
Sent from my SM-N915G using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Should. I really don't even know why you're scared. Do you get apps from anywhere besides Google Play Store?

Nah, I mean, some Amazon and Humble bundle apps but that's it. I'm not really that worried, just would prefer to be safe than sorry.
Sent from my SM-N915G using XDA Free mobile app

Should be fine. Not sure how things work with US carier based phones overseas but what I do know is KitKat got the update. I know I did and google says Kit Kat did

edo101 said:
Should be fine. Not sure how things work with US carier based phones overseas but what I do know is KitKat got the update. I know I did and google says Kit Kat did
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, if I can be bothered, I might unroot my phone and see if I can get the update then, then root it again afterwards. Can't be bothered to do it any time soon though

marcolorenzo said:
Okay, if I can be bothered, I might unroot my phone and see if I can get the update then, then root it again afterwards. Can't be bothered to do it any time soon though
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol, exactly. I wouldn't be worried about your phone at all. Unless you do shady online stuff

Marshmallow Anyone ?

With upcoming availability of 6.0 , has anyone tried it yet ?
I wouldn't mind trying it but with Knox and such , I figure why temp the hand of fate after my present run in with 5.1.
It looks like they can root 6.0 .
I don't know if it's available for our phones yet .
Have any of you people done the update yet and if you have , what do you think of it ?

I guess no one has played with it yet?

I believe its not available for our phones yet. As far as I've heard, as of a couple weeks ago, the beta is for Nexus devices only.

I have shamed myself !
I was reading online somewhere that it was out.
I guess that explains it.
I think I read where they already have root for it.
Oh well,this 5.1.1 dog is getting old with all the restarts.
It was good in the beginning though.
Too bad the damned thing fell flat on it's face.

The Radius Kid said:
I have shamed myself !
I was reading online somewhere that it was out.
I guess that explains it.
I think I read where they already have root for it.
Oh well,this 5.1.1 dog is getting old with all the restarts.
It was good in the beginning though.
Too bad the damned thing fell flat on it's face.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It definitely sucks that Samsung has forgotten how special this phone is. That being said, I am contempt with 4.4.4. I don't think the Marshmellow update will be that good for the Edge but I could be wrong. I am hoping I am. Marshmellow with the Edge features integrated like it is in 4.4.4 with the same or better battery life is all I want

I can only see 6.0 being worse with all security crap built into this 5.1.1 over 4.4.4.
I've come to refer to this phone as the "restart retard".
5.1.1 was great when it first was installed on my phone and when it works right,it's fast.
The problem is:
How often does it work right?

I'm good.
Two weeks ago my edge was acting retarded. I sent it back and got a refurbished one (because I refuse to get the new note 5 iPhone clone). My new edge shipped with 5.1.1 installed. Surprisingly I have no issues at all. No restarts or headaches. Fingers crossed. If T-Mobile gives us a crappy marshmallow version - if Samsung even remembers they made the phone - I will have no issues going back to kit Kat because i miss the camera button not being on the edge any longer.

I don't know if you can go back from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4 in your case ?

steve austin said:
e i miss the camera button not being on the edge any longer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, was the best place for it, felt more like a camera there and was easy to access.. On screen is just a ***** of a place to put it...

steve austin said:
Two weeks ago my edge was acting retarded. I sent it back and got a refurbished one (because I refuse to get the new note 5 iPhone clone). My new edge shipped with 5.1.1 installed. Surprisingly I have no issues at all. No restarts or headaches. Fingers crossed. If T-Mobile gives us a crappy marshmallow version - if Samsung even remembers they made the phone - I will have no issues going back to kit Kat because i miss the camera button not being on the edge any longer.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That was ultimately what made me go back to Kit Kat. I coulda dealt with my notifications popping up on screen every now and then but removing the shutter button from the Edge screen was too much. or someeone with moderate hands, the edge shutter made taking pics and selfies soo fricking easy
Do let us know if you are able to go down to 4.4.4. I would like to play around with some Note 5 Custom ROMs and be able to go back to 4.4.4 stock. Seems to be the best thing this phone ever got from Samsung.
Any word on how long your screen time is on 5.1.1? I only get about 5 hours on 4.4.4 stock. And yeah I also have a TMobile phone running on MetroPCS so basically TMobile

edo101 said:
That was ultimately what made me go back to Kit Kat. I coulda dealt with my notifications popping up on screen every now and then but removing the shutter button from the Edge screen was too much. or someeone with moderate hands, the edge shutter made taking pics and selfies soo fricking easy
Do let us know if you are able to go down to 4.4.4. I would like to play around with some Note 5 Custom ROMs and be able to go back to 4.4.4 stock. Seems to be the best thing this phone ever got from Samsung.
Any word on how long your screen time is on 5.1.1? I only get about 5 hours on 4.4.4 stock. And yeah I also have a TMobile phone running on MetroPCS so basically TMobile
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am getting around four to four and a half hours of screen time at the moment. It does go down to about 4 on most occasions because I do a lot of YouTube. However I really don't care because I carry an extra battery - which I can't do with the note 5. With regards to going back to the KitKat version… below is a message that I got from one of the helpful subscribers on this board who help me out with this a while ago. Actually went back to KitKat about 7 months ago and I had it on my phone that I recently returned. I just have not put KitKat back on the new phone that I got last week I did not feel the need to do it at this point since I'm having no problems right now with the lollipop version that I have. If anything should happen in the next few months where I have to start all over again then I may do this process and go back to KitKat. It is very simple to do and I had no problems with the installation hopefully it works for you as well.
Originally Posted by*nguyen4514
Hello Steve,
To downgrade back to KitKat without tripping Knox, you will need to download an official Samsung firmware. I found official firmware at*www.sammobile.com/firmwares. Type in model number SM-915T and download the most recent version of KitKat. The most recent version of KitKat for the Note Edge on T-Mobile was dated 12-2-2014. Before you are allowed to download files from sammobile, you will need to create a free user account.
When you click on the firmware version you want, there will be instructions that tell you how to install the firmware. When I downgraded, I was told to download ODIN v3.09. I checked sammobile today and it looks like they updated the instructions to include a newer version of ODIN. Sammobile doesn't have ODIN available for download on their website, but I'm sure you can easily find it using Google or asking on XDA.
Here are some tips that is not listed in the instructions on Sammobile. If you follow their instructions and your phone is taking more than 5 minutes to fully turn on (stuck on the T-Mobile logo/screen), you will need to wipe/factory reset your Note Edge. To do this, I pulled out my battery and started my phone in recovery mode (Hold volume up and the home button while turning on the phone). Wipe the cache/factory reset your device and your Note Edge should be up and running again. To make sure that I don't receive OTA updates from T-Mobile, I disabled the software update app.
Remember, when you go through this process, you will lose all pictures/docs/downloads/etc. on your phone. Backup what you need before downgrading.
Good luck with the downgrade. If all goes well, you will definitely enjoy everything that made the Note Edge unique.

Getting really pissed about this broken software. I went to the dark side...

de2000 said:
Getting really pissed about this broken software. I went to the dark side...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Dark Side?

The Radius Kid said:
The Dark Side?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I presume… CrApple?

Yeah, I really hated doing that, but the consistency of performance and firmware updates just can't be beat. Apple Pay is a pleasure to use. The fingerprint scanner is ultra fast. Very good battery life. Yada yada yada... the list goes on. I do miss the Edge's screen color and resolution. I also miss the wonderful alarm clock of the Edge. Perhaps when Marshmallow comes out for it, the new firmware, I hope, will fix all the issues that this past update broke.

What cpu does the note edge have?
Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

The Radius Kid said:
I don't know if you can go back from 5.1.1 to 4.4.4 in your case ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did not take a look at your comment until today. I was able to go back yo kit kay with the 5.0.1 version of lollipop. Today I tried to dod the same procedure as before and odin gave me a fail notice. I thought it was a debugging issue bit I cut it on and it still did not take. Sis you know why and if so is there a way around it? I should not have opened my big mouth about how smooth things were going. Now after the new update to 5.1.1 I get unsent texts and YouTube can't find a stream half the time. Ou want kit Kat back. FML.

Things are getting interesting.
It seems over at Yellow Bullet forums there's a gentleman who has been forced an upgrade to Marshmallow from Lollipop and it's killing his battery
He says he had auto updates turned off and it was still forced on him.
I understand he's a Verizon customer as well.
http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1661969
This doesn't sound good.

Any Verizon users on here experience the same thing?
Any experiences to tell?

edo101 said:
That was ultimately what made me go back to Kit Kat. I coulda dealt with my notifications popping up on screen every now and then but removing the shutter button from the Edge screen was too much. or someeone with moderate hands, the edge shutter made taking pics and selfies soo fricking easy
Do let us know if you are able to go down to 4.4.4. I would like to play around with some Note 5 Custom ROMs and be able to go back to 4.4.4 stock. Seems to be the best thing this phone ever got from Samsung.
Any word on how long your screen time is on 5.1.1? I only get about 5 hours on 4.4.4 stock. And yeah I also have a TMobile phone running on MetroPCS so basically TMobile
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm getting about 2 hours average screen on time on 5.1.1. HORRIBLE. Im on Sprint
Used to get 4 hours on 5.0.1

What the hell is wrong with my OnePlus One?

I've been running LiquidSmooth 3.2 (4.4.4) practically since I got the phone nearly a year ago. The last few months it's been getting henky; occasional random reboots, particularly when playing games, plus sometimes games would crash or simply freeze. Angry Birds 2 (crashes, restarts), Assassin's Creed Pirates (freezes), Kill Shot (crashes), etc. I've been meaning to try a 5.1 ROM, but have been lazy about it.
Then sometime between going to bed last night and waking up this morning, something happened. No apps were updated (I have that turned off). But it rebooted, and my wallpaper reverted to the LiquidSmooth stock wallpaper. It works fine until the screen locks, and it won't wake up again. The capactive keys light up (but don't vibrate like they should), but the screen doesn't respond. After the screen times out, sometimes I hear the "click" of it locking (I have the lock timeout set to 5 seconds) over and over and over. This in itself is odd, because it didn't make that click before (I guess I disabled that). The only way I can do anything is to reboot it and keep the screen on. And when I reboot, the wallpaper reverts, yet everything else (icons, widgets) remains as it was. I'm completely baffled, because, like I said, I did nothing other than turn the screen off and go to bed, and when I woke up, it was doing this crap.
So I sad "#$%@" it", I'll back everything up and try BlissPop 5.1.1. Downloaded this plus GApps. I go into TWRP (2.8.7.0), wipe everything but internal storage, try installing BlissPop, and it fails. I happen to have an older version, and that fails too. The only thing that flashes is LS 3.2, and after flashing that, it has all my apps like it did before, but Play Services continually crashes.
I'm not a novice to flashing. I tried upwards of 30 different ROMs on my Nexus 4. and never ran into this problem. However, these were all 4.4.4 ROMs (although Titanium back-ups originated from a 4.2.2 device), as is the LS version I've been using on my OnePlus One. Is there something I'm missing/not doing going from KK to LP? Do I need to revert to stock, update to official OTA, then install my chosen 5.1 ROM?
As I'm typing this, I've restored the TWRP back-up I did before trying this other stuff, and now the screen keeps showing the LS wallpaper (off-centered) and then the homescreen to the left (2 out of 5), and back and forth and back and forth, not responding to touch.
W T F ?

OK, I see now that there indeed is a firmware change needed to go from KK to LP. Not gonna try it tonight - too drunk for that. I'm off work Wednesday and Thursday, so I'll give it a try then. Come to think of it, I should try the official CM12s too, to see if the crashes/freezes happen, in which case it might be a hardware issue and I'll have to send it back. Meanwhile I've got LiquidSmooth up and running again. Games still crash though, and irritatingly, the Play Store crashes every time I try to type in a search (but not if I use voice).
I still would like to know WTF happened in the first place, but I suspect I'll never know.

Planterz said:
OK, I see now that there indeed is a firmware change needed to go from KK to LP. Not gonna try it tonight - too drunk for that. I'm off work Wednesday and Thursday, so I'll give it a try then. Come to think of it, I should try the official CM12s too, to see if the crashes/freezes happen, in which case it might be a hardware issue and I'll have to send it back. Meanwhile I've got LiquidSmooth up and running again. Games still crash though, and irritatingly, the Play Store crashes every time I try to type in a search (but not if I use voice).
I still would like to know WTF happened in the first place, but I suspect I'll never know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you wanna flash firmware using twrp you'll need to downgrade to 2.8.6.0 it's the only one that works without issues. Cos12.1 is a good choice but don't use the flash-all script (in fastboot) without backing up your phone, you'll end up wiping everything. Unless you're encrypted there's no need to use 2.8.7.0
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Renosh said:
If you wanna flash firmware using twrp you'll need to downgrade to 2.8.6.0 it's the only one that works without issues. Cos12.1 is a good choice but don't use the flash-all script (in fastboot) without backing up your phone, you'll end up wiping everything. Unless you're encrypted there's no need to use 2.8.7.0
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you. Perhaps that's why the "update.zip" batch restore I created in Titanium wouldn't flash.
I admit I'm no expert with the OPO. When I got it I flashed LiquidSmooth and never looked back, so I'm out of date and undereducated. I was planning on reading everything and getting caught up in the near future, since as soon as I've got the cash I'm picking up a Nexus 6 ($300 for 64gb on Amazon right now) and I was going to play around with LP/MM ROMs on my OPO, but then this crap happened ahead of schedule. Kinda ridiculous that a few years ago I was hesitant to get a smartphone because they were so "huge", and now my OPO isn't big enough anymore.

Planterz said:
Thank you. Perhaps that's why the "update.zip" batch restore I created in Titanium wouldn't flash.
I admit I'm no expert with the OPO. When I got it I flashed LiquidSmooth and never looked back, so I'm out of date and undereducated. I was planning on reading everything and getting caught up in the near future, since as soon as I've got the cash I'm picking up a Nexus 6 ($300 for 64gb on Amazon right now) and I was going to play around with LP/MM ROMs on my OPO, but then this crap happened ahead of schedule. Kinda ridiculous that a few years ago I was hesitant to get a smartphone because they were so "huge", and now my OPO isn't big enough anymore.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was also considering getting a Nexus 6 some time ago but it isn't a big enough bump to justify switching when I could just keep using the OPO and end year wait for SD820 Nexus. TWRP is a pain for a lot of users and they experience a whole host of issues that they can't seem to understand, such as several in this section titled no sim/no network and sometimes proximity sensor issues are related to not being able to flash firmware while on TWRP 2.8.7.0. You're still on 4.4 so you're even more clueless ?. Only two things you need to be aware of Lollipop uses a new firmware (baseband 241) and latest CM13 uses a different firmware too (c7-00011)
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Renosh said:
I was also considering getting a Nexus 6 some time ago but it isn't a big enough bump to justify switching when I could just keep using the OPO and end year wait for SD820 Nexus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was so excited with the Nexus 6 was coming out...until they announced the price, so I got the OnePlus One. Now the the price is reasonable (a freaking bargain, IMO) at $250/300 brand new, I want to get one and maybe sell my OPO. I read eBooks during downtime at work and that extra bit of screen makes a huge difference (it did when I had a Note 3, and the Nexus 6 is even bigger), plus I read with white text and black background will work great with AMOLED. I also like playing some games, and the big screen and front-facing speakers will be perfect for that. Sure, the latest and greatest would be nice, but I can't afford that. My dream phone would be the rumored Xperia Z5 Ultra, but it'll likely cost $800-900.
You're still on 4.4 so you're even more clueless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey, I like KitKat! Still running KK on my S4 and Nexus 4. I had zero interest in 5.0, but now that the 5.1 ROMs are fleshed out, it's time for something new.
Only two things you need to be aware of Lollipop uses a new firmware (baseband 241) and latest CM13 uses a different firmware too (c7-00011)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Does that apply to all Marshmallow ROMs or just CM/CM based ones?
Again, thanks for your help, and putting up with me.

Planterz said:
I was so excited with the Nexus 6 was coming out...until they announced the price, so I got the OnePlus One. Now the the price is reasonable (a freaking bargain, IMO) at $250/300 brand new, I want to get one and maybe sell my OPO. I read eBooks during downtime at work and that extra bit of screen makes a huge difference (it did when I had a Note 3, and the Nexus 6 is even bigger), plus I read with white text and black background will work great with AMOLED. I also like playing some games, and the big screen and front-facing speakers will be perfect for that. Sure, the latest and greatest would be nice, but I can't afford that. My dream phone would be the rumored Xperia Z5 Ultra, but it'll likely cost $800-900.
Hey, I like KitKat![emoji14] Still running KK on my S4 and Nexus 4. I had zero interest in 5.0, but now that the 5.1 ROMs are fleshed out, it's time for something new.
Does that apply to all Marshmallow ROMs or just CM/CM based ones?
Again, thanks for your help, and putting up with me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haven't heard of a Z5 Ultra but Sony is not my taste. I'll hold out for the Nexus at the end of this year and I'll probably buy it in 2017 (depends on finances) or get a 6P at bargain prices. I've also heard the Nexus 6 isn't great in battery life department so custom kernel will be a must
5.1.1 ROMs are rock stable right now so I'd suggest them over Marshmallow (numerous bugs at the moment but getting better every day).
The new modem is only if you want to run CM based ROMs which are the majority so you'd have to flash latest CM13 nightly first before flashing any other. If you use Omni or any ROM based off their source like Slimsaber or SAOSP etc they work with Lollipop firmware.
Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

There have been rumors of a new Z Ultra for years ever since the first (and only) one. 6.44" screen, etc. I plan on getting a new tablet soon as well (Tab S 8.4 or Nexus Shield K1), but if they ever came out with a new Z Ultra (maybe they're waiting for the SD820), it'd be big enough to replace a tablet, yet still fit in my pocket. Maybe the Nexus 6 will suffice on its own.
Reviews I've read of the Nexus 6 say it has great battery life, but those are with scripts and can only simulate real-life usage. I'm not worried. Reading at work drains my batter the most, and with a white-on-black theme and AMOLED screen, I should be fine. I usually only play games at home, when it's plugged in anyway. Of course, I'll be playing around with custom kernels anyway. I never really bothered with them on my OPO (it already has smooth performance and great battery life), but probably will once I try 5.1 ROMs.
We're getting OT here, but it's my thread, so I can if I want!