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DNG Raw files?

I wounder if someone could help me, I wounder if any if you could upload a few DNG raw files?
A few photos in daylight and indoors.
Have search the whole web after raw files from Mate 9, only find a few from DPreview.
So if anyone could upload a some raw files I will be really glad!
Thanks!

@Peterrrrr said:
I wounder if someone could help me, I wounder if any if you could upload a few DNG raw files?
A few photos in daylight and indoors.
Have search the whole web after raw files from Mate 9, only find a few from DPreview.
So if anyone could upload a some raw files I will be really glad!
Thanks!
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Here are some sample images for you. On my OneDrive, since the forum doesn't support .dng uploads directly. Feel free to browse through them. Both day and night, they look much worse, and don't have the optic correction, that the JPEGs have. Haven't found any lens correction profiles for the Mate 9 either sadly. Perhaps someone cares to make some? I may get a printer and make some of my own and share with everybody, but that's going to be a while. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhHXH2_hyYaJhJtI_r3zpkJ7lqzpow Here they are!

Swan Princess said:
Here are some sample images for you. On my OneDrive, since the forum doesn't support .dng uploads directly. Feel free to browse through them. Both day and night, they look much worse, and don't have the optic correction, that the JPEGs have. Haven't found any lens correction profiles for the Mate 9 either sadly. Perhaps someone cares to make some? I may get a printer and make some of my own and share with everybody, but that's going to be a while. https://1drv.ms/f/s!AhHXH2_hyYaJhJtI_r3zpkJ7lqzpow Here they are!
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Thanks alot, if you got more I would be even more happier If you have some pictures on faces it would also be great, how the camera works on skintones.
As a photographer after trying a few dng files(from you and DPreivew) in Photoshop I can say that the the camera software processing is a bit off, to much noise reduction and wrong color. Even if the niose is higher on the DNG files it is more correct and sharper. More details.

@Peterrrrr said:
Thanks alot, if you got more I would be even more happier If you have some pictures on faces it would also be great, how the camera works on skintones.
As a photographer after trying a few dng files(from you and DPreivew) in Photoshop I can say that the the camera software processing is a bit off, to much noise reduction and wrong color. Even if the niose is higher on the DNG files it is more correct and sharper. More details.
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I'm glad you like them. Sadly I don't have any face photos, as I'm a landscape and astronomy photographer. I shoot in raw+jpeg and I'm happy with both formats. At least when walking around and not wanting to lug a heavy camera around. It's no Pentax K-1 though regarding image quality, but it's better then my old note 4 that's for sure! Plus, the .dng format allows me to mount the Mate 9 on a tripod and do some stacking and removal of dark frames for ubernice, mostly noise-free results!

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I'm glad you like them. Sadly I don't have any face photos, as I'm a landscape and astronomy photographer. I shoot in raw+jpeg and I'm happy with both formats. At least when walking around and not wanting to lug a heavy camera around. It's no Pentax K-1 though regarding image quality, but it's better then my old note 4 that's for sure! Plus, the .dng format allows me to mount the Mate 9 on a tripod and do some stacking and removal of dark frames for ubernice, mostly noise-free results!
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If you have more nature pics in DNG I would like to see them Daylight, rainy, foggy...
Nice to see that you like Astronomy, I take night sky picutres myself, haven an Nikon D800

@Peterrrrr said:
If you have more nature pics in DNG I would like to see them Daylight, rainy, foggy...
Nice to see that you like Astronomy, I take night sky picutres myself, haven an Nikon D800
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Mate 9 is all I currently have (well a replacement rear camera is on its way), I'm drooling over that Pentax though. Same sensor as in the D810 with a few Astronomical benefits. I will keep on uploading to that folder then, so check back frequently!

Swan Princess said:
Mate 9 is all I currently have (well a replacement rear camera is on its way), I'm drooling over that Pentax though. Same sensor as in the D810 with a few Astronomical benefits. I will keep on uploading to that folder then, so check back frequently!
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Thanks alot! Really kind of you.

Swan Princess said:
Mate 9 is all I currently have (well a replacement rear camera is on its way), I'm drooling over that Pentax though. Same sensor as in the D810 with a few Astronomical benefits. I will keep on uploading to that folder then, so check back frequently!
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@Swan Princess
Do you(or anyone else on this forum ) have any 4K loseless video file to upload? Would like to see from daylight and indoors.
The ones on youtube ara a bit bad.

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@Swan Princess
Do you(or anyone else on this forum ) have any 4K loseless video file to upload? Would like to see from daylight and indoors.
The ones on youtube ara a bit bad.
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I don't have any videos for now, but I'll let you know when I get some. Please keep in mind that they are encoded in HEVC / h.265, you'll need hardware that is able to decode it. So what will you use it all for again?

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I don't have any videos for now, but I'll let you know when I get some. Please keep in mind that they are encoded in HEVC / h.265, you'll need hardware that is able to decode it. So what will you use it all for again?
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I am extremly on details , Im in thought in buying an Mate 9 but I really need to see DNG and 4K in detail before buying it
I am a photographer and have high demands.

I am going to try an Mate 9 Pro tomorrow and wounder where the DNG RAW files is located in the storage on the phone?

Anyone here have any DNG photo from indoors with persons in the room?

Normal camera photos look bit more blurred than normal? Bokeh effect?

Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.

RikoF1 said:
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
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Yes, I'm going through the same thing ... I can't get clear answers on this subject. Only thing I know the camera aperture is too big so taking close-up shots of the blur is terribly bad, I don't know if future updates will fix it. I came from a Mi 9 and his pictures were better than the Mi Note 10

You need to understand the implication applied when camera using a larger sensor. This is not only about apperture and lenses. I explain it in other thread.

But there is nothing we can do, even in Pro mode? We cannot setup the aperture, so the depth of field is quite ridiculous. Can have a clear picture of a bottle label if the camera is not exactly parallel lol
Is there something we can do to mitigate?

Airwave said:
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Is there something we can do to mitigate?
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Yes. You can edit the photos with photoshop.

rasik80 said:
Yes. You can edit the photos with photoshop.
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no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.

Kasallamacher said:
no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
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Then put all your objects at least 2++ metres from camera

Kasallamacher said:
no you can't if they're blurry. i would also like to be able to take photos, where everything is in focus.
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Then buy another phone.

rasik80 said:
Then buy another phone.
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You're very funny

Kasallamacher said:
You're very funny
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I think he is being fair enough though. Because what you expect is like using a fix apperture lens on a full frame DSLR, and still expecting a result with wide depth of field unconditionally.
It's simply against the principal and law of the photography physics itself.
If you really need that, then you gonna need phone with either : smaller sensor, or less bright lens, or both.

I don't think it is, it's a question of software. I was sitting at a table wanting to take a photo of our cocktails. Mine was in focus, the one right behind already blurred. I understand that physically this is normal, but software should be able to take a photo with everything in focus.

Kasallamacher said:
I don't think it is, it's a question of software. I was sitting at a table wanting to take a photo of our cocktails. Mine was in focus, the one right behind already blurred. I understand that physically this is normal, but software should be able to take a photo with everything in focus.
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Nah. You can think what you like then. The physics wont change. And every people who understand the theory behind depth of field, will agree.
I know what you expect the software to do though. Sharpen the object in background or do focus stacking. As for sharpening, it' just a pseudo focus, and i rather not having it at all. Focus stacking, though, is considerable,
If thats what you like, then just get yourself a photoshop and do some layer masking job, because no stock smartphone camera app implement focus stacking AFAIK. The closer you can get is by using "Open Camera" app and use the focus bracketing software.

You can 'kind of' fix the effect in software by using focus bracketing. Open Camera supports this and you specify how many photos to take and it will take that number at different focal lengths. Then you process the images with some stacking software like Helicon Focus which produces an image with a huge depth of field.
Of course, this is all more complicated than just pointing and pressing. A nice feature would be if the camera software takes all the photos and stacks them for you, but I doubt any camera software will do all this for you..
Cheers
Steve

Mine had a focusing problem and what I did? I’ve changed to full mode instead of 3:4. Regarding the focusing around the center, I don’t think there is a solution than using more the portrait mode.
I’m not a camera guy so these setting were enough for me.

RikoF1 said:
Hi,
I received my Mi Note 10 and I've been testing the camera. Am I the only one that thinks that while taking normal outside pictures (27mp mode) the image taken has lots of blurriness and distortion? As of now I'm not really enjoying the phone.
Came from a Mi Note 3 which took amazing pictures.
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What are you talking about
Here are one picture taken from me i dont think is blurry
Everything looks in focus

Differencea between 8p / 7p lenses

Hi everyone,
As the name of the thread, can someone explain the difference between the two types of Lens group?
8p are only on pro version
7p on normale mi note 10
Reading some info in the web, there s a lot of confusion about this:
some say that 8p can capture more light than 7p, but it is something that I don't think because the sensitivity to light is determined by the sensor itself and by the aperture (f1.7 on both), not by the lenses.
some others say that the images are sharper on the 8p, and it's another thing I don't believe in, unless the quality of the lenses themselves, regardless of their number, is lower on the 7p. And i don t think so
I think instead that this famous extra lens on the pro version has been inserted to correct the strong distortion at the edges of the image that is encountered on the standard version.
below I insert a link (the only comparison I have found) where both models are compared. even the result of the mi note 10 standard is described as sharper!?
but it is difficult to evaluate because none of the photos in this video are enlarged enough to find out if it is true.
Maybe with a link of full res images....
https://youtu.be/ncnnFrdw50M
I'd be happy to know what you think, and if anyone here is an expert in these techniques (I'm sure that's the case) they can also provide some further explanation regarding this difference.
thank you all,
merry christmas and happy day

As i explained in other thread,
Lens element is used mostly for correction, whether its distortion or abberation, it can be color abberation, fringing, and elses,
Some people won't believe it though (i guess most of them were never used and know about how lens elements work and used in all those other lenses in other camera system, named it medium format, 35, dslr, mirorless, etc), and keep saying that it can bring more light. But again, how can you bring more light when you put an extra glass/plastic in front of your sensor, right ? ;b. The correct term is not "more light" but, "better light", since the lens element filter out/correct out flaw from the light. Example would be how "achromatic" or "apochromatic" lens used to minimise the color fringe effect (caused by lens dispersion) - read here if you want to read details : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration
Btw, the light is indeed determined by the lens apperture and the sensitivity of the sensor itself. But lenses also play parts in how they transmit the light to the sensor, the better the lens is, the better the light quality (notice i say quality, not simply quantity) is, which means, the better the data captured by the sensor. Better data normally would mean better image as well.
Being that case, more lens element not always translate to better image. Since its the quality of the lens, not amount that actually affecting the result most.

I have both and the difference is very little, only the pro manages better backlight and in dark areas a little more light

oooooh a competent person that provides reliable and scientific information. it is always a satisfaction to receive this type of feedback!
so how, using logic, I thought ... the improvement from 7p to 8p is not on the sharpness, contrast or brightness of the photo, but on the various chromatic imperfections that can be found in the saved shot.
moreover, things that can be easily corrected with lrm, i think.
thank you!

carlosml1 said:
I have both and the difference is very little, only the pro manages better backlight and in dark areas a little more light
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Thank you! Can you upload some samples of both devices please?

otonieru said:
As i explained in other thread,
Lens element is used mostly for correction, whether its distortion or abberation, it can be color abberation, fringing, and elses,
Some people won't believe it though (i guess most of them were never used and know about how lens elements work and used in all those other lenses in other camera system, named it medium format, 35, dslr, mirorless, etc), and keep saying that it can bring more light. But again, how can you bring more light when you put an extra glass/plastic in front of your sensor, right ? ;b. The correct term is not "more light" but, "better light", since the lens element filter out/correct out flaw from the light. Example would be how "achromatic" or "apochromatic" lens used to minimise the color fringe effect (caused by lens dispersion) - read here if you want to read details : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromatic_aberration
Btw, the light is indeed determined by the lens apperture and the sensitivity of the sensor itself. But lenses also play parts in how they transmit the light to the sensor, the better the lens is, the better the light quality (notice i say quality, not simply quantity) is, which means, the better the data captured by the sensor. Better data normally would mean better image as well.
Being that case, more lens element not always translate to better image. Since its the quality of the lens, not amount that actually affecting the result most.
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so do you think that the 8p pro version has more sharpness in the shots against the 7p version? I m quite thinking ti sell mine and buy the pro but i don t understand if the img quality in terms of sharpness exists.

left my note 10 right my note 10 pro

carlosml1 said:
left my note 10 right my note 10 pro
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very interesting, Thank you
The First thing i see Is a different White balance.
In terms of contrast and sharpness i see the same result, but near the external limits of the image, there s some distorsion and lack of sharpness on the mi note 10 standard. Pro has a Better result: look at the leaves at the left limite of the images! There s a difference.
instead in the rest of the image I see the exact same quality of detail, definition and sharpness.
Am i wrong?

mezza8512 said:
very interesting, Thank you
The First thing i see Is a different White balance.
In terms of contrast and sharpness i see the same result, but near the external limits of the image, there s some distorsion and lack of sharpness on the mi note 10 standard. Pro has a Better result: look at the leaves at the left limite of the images! There s a difference.
instead in the rest of the image I see the exact same quality of detail, definition and sharpness.
Am i wrong?
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Yes, it's true, I also see the note 10 pro better, today is a cloudy and foggy day here

carlosml1 said:
Yes, it's true, I also see the note 10 pro better, today is a cloudy and foggy day here
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sharpness at the center of the image Better on pro, or Is the same in the two versions?

carlosml1 said:
Yes, it's true, I also see the note 10 pro better, today is a cloudy and foggy day here
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please can you post a link with full res images of both devices in some conditions? Daylight, interior and low light of both devices ... Thank you

Ok now i have both versions and i can directly compare the difference.
first, I notice a larger area of focus, it seems that this additional lens gives a better direction to the light and to the ability to focus. this is also noticeable when taking a photo at night, in a street with public lighting, and the rings around the light are much more concentrated and less widespread than on the standard version.
there is also a better dynamic range, with more details in the dark areas, especially in the low light shots.
another interesting thing is the software, because it is not the same as the standard version. the differences are minimal, but I notice a different white balance, a higher jpg compression, greater contrast and oversharpening.
the images are less "soft" and more processed by the sw.
different speech in the photos of the interior and on the photos to people, where the pro version works better getting better details and faster and more precise focus.
ultimately, the differences are not in favor of one version rather than the other, but in a different way of interpreting the scene.
0.6 x, macro, 2 x, 5x are the same, while from 10x up there is a better detail because the interpolation of the main sensor intervenes, which thanks to better optics, guarantees better details.
verdict:
Is 8p better than 7p?
yes, but only if you want to take photos at "pedal to the metal" of the search for detail and the final result after post production.
but this is such a small difference that 99% of users will have no real benefits in this upgrade, unless they want more ram and more rom.
regards!

mezza8512 said:
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but this is such a small difference that 99% of users will have no real benefits in this upgrade, unless they want more ram and more rom.
regards!
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Can you post the original file from both on pro mode (108mp and raw format enable) in the same condition? Maybe we can see more clearly when heavy editing their photos (raw file) in the lr ?

A Minh said:
Can you post the original file from both on pro mode (108mp and raw format enable) in the same condition? Maybe we can see more clearly when heavy editing their photos (raw file) in the lr ?
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Sorry my friend but i sold both mi note 10 long time ago

mezza8512 said:
I notice a different white balance, a higher jpg compression, greater contrast and oversharpening.
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Hi, sorry for bringing this so late, but I'm interesting in this phones. It's not clear to me which version above has higher JPEG compression? I assume it's the Mi Note 10 (not Pro)? It wouldn't make much sense the other way around. Also, which one has higher contrast and over-sharpening - Pro or non-Pro?
I know you probably don't remember it now, but it's worth a shot to ask.

Question TERRIBLE photo corner softness?

So I got my S22 ultra yesterday and overall I am very satisfied with it except the sharpness of the corners from the main camera, my old oneplus 8 pro is so much better at that.
It is very noticeable when shooting RAW photos or 108mp.
Is there anyone else with this kind of issue or maybe I got a defective unit?
Left is oneplus right is the s22.

It's the lense. If more than other copies, it's a bad copy. This happens.
Some corner blurring is typical and acceptable. Blurring near the center especially and as it you go outward are far less acceptable.
Every lense has a blur chart that varies by degrees throughout it's image. Even the best primes have blur; this is an exception lense that goes for over $5G! It's blur chart is near perfect.

blackhawk said:
It's the lense. If more than other copies, it's a bad copy. This happens.
Some corner blurring is typical and acceptable. Blurring near the center especially and as it you go outward are far less acceptable.
Every lense has a blur chart that varies by degrees throughout it's image. Even the best primes have blur; this is an exception lense that goes for over $5G! It's blur chart is near perfect.
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I know its the lens, I want to know if everyone has it to this level or maybe its just my phone.
Look at the difference with the oneplus, I don't think its acceptable.

TheNewLegend said:
I know its the lens, I want to know if everyone has it to this level or maybe its just my phone.
Look at the difference with the oneplus, I don't think its acceptable.
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You need to compare the same lense/cam model. Go to a store and try a demo or two.
Return it if not satisfied.

blackhawk said:
You need to compare the same lense/cam model. Go to a store and try a demo or two.
Return it if not satisfied.
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Okay maybe I'll try that. A friend of mine has a s21 ultra, they share the same sensor, maybe I should compare with his phone?
BTW is that the quote of Joey from friends ?

TheNewLegend said:
Okay maybe I'll try that. A friend of mine has a s21 ultra, they share the same sensor, maybe I should compare with his phone?
BTW is that the quote of Joey from friends ?
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Remember there's more than one cam... Friends? Never watched it.

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Okay maybe I'll try that. A friend of mine has a s21 ultra, they share the same sensor, maybe I should compare with his phone?
BTW is that the quote of Joey from friends ?
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They might be the same sensor but the S22U has a wider main lens than the S21U. Wide lenses are much more prone to distortion and softer corners. Definitely hoping future models go back to being less wide.

beserker15 said:
They might be the same sensor but the S22U has a wider main lens than the S21U. Wide lenses are much more prone to distortion and softer corners. Definitely hoping future models go back to being less wide.
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For wide angle use the save option to automatically apply correction. This is for primarily image distortion though.

Interesting. My camera app does not have the ultra wide correction option. The other two options are under "picture format". My old Note 20 did have that option.

brachiopod said:
Interesting. My camera app does not have the ultra wide correction option. The other two options are under "picture format". My old Note 20 did have that option.
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Wonder if it just automatically does it now?
That screenshot is from my N10+ running on Pie... meh, I don't like rude surprises

Both photos (on the link on the end) are in 108 mode, 2nd taken seconds after the first, so conditions are the same.
On the 1st photo I have just pressed shutter button and that's it.
On the 2nd button I have taped with finger onto the TV tower on the right to lock focus/exposure and then pressed shutter button.
Results are interesting. As you can see on the 1st photo, trees are detailed and sharp, in focus, while the TV tower is blurry, without details.
But on the 2nd picture, you can see the TV tower (or windows on the buildings) has details, even it is in the corner where sharpness is lower then in the center.
I don't understand this behavior, since there shouldn't be any difference in focus because of the distance from the subjects. In normal 12Mp mode everything is sharp and in focus across the image.
I don't have explanation for this behavior, since the size of the sensor, focal length and distance from the subject shouldn't have any impact on that. It looks something is broken in the image processing pipeline.
Samsung issues - Google Drive
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ssglackey said:
Both photos (on the link on the end) are in 108 mode, 2nd taken seconds after the first, so conditions are the same.
On the 1st photo I have just pressed shutter button and that's it.
On the 2nd button I have taped with finger onto the TV tower on the right to lock focus/exposure and then pressed shutter button.
Results are interesting. As you can see on the 1st photo, trees are detailed and sharp, in focus, while the TV tower is blurry, without details.
But on the 2nd picture, you can see the TV tower (or windows on the buildings) has details, even it is in the corner where sharpness is lower then in the center.
I don't understand this behavior, since there shouldn't be any difference in focus because of the distance from the subjects. In normal 12Mp mode everything is sharp and in focus across the image.
I don't have explanation for this behavior, since the size of the sensor, focal length and distance from the subject shouldn't have any impact on that. It looks something is broken in the image processing pipeline.
Samsung issues - Google Drive
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Thanks for the samples, I tried to focus on the corners too and some how it got sharper however the center of the image got worse even though everything should be in focus.
In 12mp mode it just boost the sharpness with processing. that's why everything is sharp.

TheNewLegend said:
Thanks for the samples, I tried to focus on the corners too and some how it got sharper however the center of the image got worse even though everything should be in focus.
In 12mp mode it just boost the sharpness with processing. that's why everything is sharp.
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Yes, you can have sharp center or the corners, but not both. But why?
I don't think in 12mp mode it is just boosting the sharpness, if it is out of focus, it can't be fixed by sharpening.
It may help if you submit a bug report directly from the phone via the member app as I did (still waiting for reply from Samsung) - more reports, more attention.

ssglackey said:
Yes, you can have sharp center or the corners, but not both. But why?
I don't think in 12mp mode it is just boosting the sharpness, if it is out of focus, it can't be fixed by sharpening.
It may help if you submit a bug report directly from the phone via the member app as I did (still waiting for reply from Samsung) - more reports, more attention.
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I already did that too

TheNewLegend said:
I already did that too
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I have the Exynos version, wondering if it is also affecting SD...

ssglackey said:
I have the Exynos version, wondering if it is also affecting SD...
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Mine is sd so it is..

ssglackey said:
Yes, you can have sharp center or the corners, but not both. But why?
I don't think in 12mp mode it is just boosting the sharpness, if it is out of focus, it can't be fixed by sharpening.
It may help if you submit a bug report directly from the phone via the member app as I did (still waiting for reply from Samsung) - more reports, more attention.
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Because of the blur pattern and dof.
All lens have it and you can't have all points in focus at once especially with a fast lense. They always have a shallow depth of field. Even stopped down only objects at the same distance can be perfectly focus and there's always some blur even than.
You can't stop down these smartphone cams, one of their limitations; you're stuck with a wide open lense.
Multi element (typically 7 elements or greater) lens can correct for it to a greater extent but you see the blur chart example I posted. That's one of the best primes available, all $6G's of that beast.
It's not just the blur pattern that the optic engineers need to address. Different colors have different wavelengths so they want to focus at different lengths. There are many tradeoffs. With only a small number of elements in a very small space the options are limited. Price is another consideration.

blackhawk said:
Because of the blur pattern and dof.
All lens have it and you can't have all points in focus at once especially with a fast lense. They always have a shallow depth of field. Even stopped down only objects at the same distance can be perfectly focus and there's always some blur even than.
You can't stop down these smartphone cams, one of their limitations; you're stuck with a wide open lense.
Multi element (typically 7 elements or greater) lens can correct for it to a greater extent but you see the blur chart example I posted. That's one of the best primes available, all $6G's of that beast.
It's not just the blur pattern that the optic engineers need to address. Different colors have different wavelengths so they want to focus at different lengths. There are many tradeoffs. With only a small number of elements in a very small space the options are limited. Price is another consideration.
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But in the standard 12Mpix mode everything far enough is sharp and in focus, using the same lens, only in 108Mpix mode you see this issue. Your statement is valid, but with tiny sensors in smartphones all distant object must be equally in focus. I can't achieve such blur for distant object with Full frame mirrorless (35mm f1.8) and that is another league.

TheNewLegend said:
So I got my S22 ultra yesterday and overall I am very satisfied with it except the sharpness of the corners from the main camera, my old oneplus 8 pro is so much better at that.
It is very noticeable when shooting RAW photos or 108mp.
Is there anyone else with this kind of issue or maybe I got a defective unit?
Left is oneplus right is the s22.
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The shaky shot in S22 and steady shot in Oneplus, clean the lens and try without shaking the device, or maybe as you said it could be a defective phone!

After a comparison with s21 ultra there was a slight difference in sharpness, however I don't know why but the colors were much better with the s21.
I'll compare them again later.
blackhawk said:
Because of the blur pattern and dof.
All lens have it and you can't have all points in focus at once especially with a fast lense. They always have a shallow depth of field. Even stopped down only objects at the same distance can be perfectly focus and there's always some blur even than.
You can't stop down these smartphone cams, one of their limitations; you're stuck with a wide open lense.
Multi element (typically 7 elements or greater) lens can correct for it to a greater extent but you see the blur chart example I posted. That's one of the best primes available, all $6G's of that beast.
It's not just the blur pattern that the optic engineers need to address. Different colors have different wavelengths so they want to focus at different lengths. There are many tradeoffs. With only a small number of elements in a very small space the options are limited. Price is another consideration.
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Just like glackey said, even with my FF camera both of the subjects will be in focus, I don't think that DOF is the issue here.
steveroysston said:
The shaky shot in S22 and steady shot in Oneplus, clean the lens and try without shaking the device, or maybe as you said it could be a defective phone!
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Both of the phones were steady and the lens was clean.

General Pixel 7 Pro Photo Showcase

Show us your shots

A couple of unimpressive photos to start the ball rolling.

I haven't had a chance to take many pictures yet, but here are a couple....

These are just from a walk so again nothing special, they are as they were off the phone apart from a resize.

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that's a very pleasing photo to look at.

Uploaded a few, will continue to add more when I go for more walks https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10h48O0MWaZrS-MqNKjGx_xVq13spmFtB

Just more Autumn colours, looking forwards to actually going somewhere rather than just a local walk.

A couple of 30X shots, i cannot decide if 30X is remarkable or terrible, framing is also quite difficult on a moving subject. One thing is for sure you aren't going to win any awards using it.

Loving it so far!

Something about those 2 landscape shots isn't right, the contrast and dynamic range is wrong for a Pixel

MrBelter said:
Something about those 2 landscape shots isn't right, the contrast and dynamic range is wrong for a Pixel
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You're right! I got my P7P the same day I retired my OP7P and had taken those pics with the OP7P.
I'll remove them, I had forgotten that they were the old phone, I've been so excited about my new one.

Zoom: 1x to 30x

Psychlone said:
You're right! I got my P7P the same day I retired my OP7P and had taken those pics with the OP7P.
I'll remove them, I had forgotten that they were the old phone, I've been so excited about my new one.
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Oh blimey, they were stunning photos as well!

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Holy s**t its impressive when you see it like that

man, these P7 Pro photos I'm seeing really suck. My OnePlus7 pro takes better photos. I'm almost considering cancelling my order

buschris said:
man, these P7 Pro photos I'm seeing really suck. My OnePlus7 pro takes better photos. I'm almost considering cancelling my order
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You already posted something very similar in another thread, so I assume you're trolling and therefore am reporting your post to the moderators.
Also, OnePlus 7 Pro taking better photos? Yeah... press X to doubt.

A very light polluted area. Basically buildings around and streetlights, but you get the idea, if you go far from the light pollution, Milkyway is not a challenge for the Pixel phone.
Or upscaled 2x with TopazAI (Help of the GPU on the PC) and denoise. (2nd file)

Purple amaranth, I think... (Portrait Mode)

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A very light polluted area. Basically buildings around and streetlights, but you get the idea, if you go far from the light pollution, Milkyway is not a challenge for the Pixel phone.
Or upscaled 2x with TopazAI (Help of the GPU on the PC) and denoise. (2nd file)
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Dam tripod used?