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so mate 9 camera or nexus 6p? which is better?

I have Nexus 6p
I wanna replace it with mate 9
Camera is good like my nexus 6p?

rowihel2012 said:
I have Nexus 6p
I wanna replace it with mate 9
Camera is good like my nexus 6p?
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I have both. And s7 exynos, mate 9 is unreal. Cpu clearly more powerful than the other 2. Camera is great in pro mode.
I'm getting over 11hrs screen on time with WiFi only and about 9 with data. Amazed. Yes it's better than 6p!

lawtq said:
I have both. And s7 exynos, mate 9 is unreal. Cpu clearly more powerful than the other 2. Camera is great in pro mode.
I'm getting over 11hrs screen on time with WiFi only and about 9 with data. Amazed. Yes it's better than 6p!
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Thanks bro

Yes mate 9 camera is much better and very close to galaxy s7 performance.
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Nobody really has answered the question for you properly. The Nexus 6P has a good camera on it with large pixels. The Mate 9 does not have pixels as large, nor does it have as fast a f stop.
So to answer your question, what do you use the camera for most? e.g. taking pics of kids or pets, indoor shots, or do you shoot a lot of video. etc
To answer the question without this knowledge, all I would say is the Mate 9 camera app allows for extreme creativity over its competition. The S7 has the fastest focus system so action shot or fast moving video is a breeze for it. The large pixels on the 6P are a blessing. The 6P is not the quickest at taking a shot.

Check out the dxo mark test. It's better according to the score. https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Mate-9-camera-review-A-big-step-up-for-Huawei the mate 9 scores 85 and the nexus 6p 84.
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Sammath said:
Check out the dxo mark test. It's better according to the score. https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Mate-9-camera-review-A-big-step-up-for-Huawei the mate 9 scores 85 and the nexus 6p 84.
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Dxomark is useless. It's increasingly clear that it's not so independent and neutral. Also, they don't really seem to want to test a camera to find its best potential nor do they provide the original samples. It's a bit sketchy and their final scores seem arbitrary.

gavinfabl said:
To answer the question without this knowledge, all I would say is the Mate 9 camera app allows for extreme creativity over its competition. The S7 has the fastest focus system so action shot or fast moving video is a breeze for it. The large pixels on the 6P are a blessing. The 6P is not the quickest at taking a shot.
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Agree.
Would add, not even close ... Mate 9 way better. Had a blast this Christmas with the camera.
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SWBgHz said:
Agree.
Would add, not even close ... Mate 9 way better. Had a blast this Christmas with the camera.
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I have to say that those pictures look extremely artificial. Its like the software did the bokeh effect.
I currently have Nexus 6P and I have Mate 9 Pro waiting in the post office, but I am really hesitant to change. One obvious reason is the software but other reason is that Nexus 6P has probably the most underrated camera ever. I did have Samsung Galaxy S7 before, and while the camera is good its not as good as 6P has. I also have Oneplus3T now and while I love almost everything about this phone, on the camera department 6P just wipes the floor with it.
Especially in low light you can get really good detail. Samsung also yes, but I didn't like how with S7 every scenario got more bright. I felt that I lost the atmosphere in the shot.
Like the first picture I post here, it was really dark there, but I think I captured both the details and the atmosphere.
Summa Summarum, Nexus 6P is over a year old phone, but Google did some magic and it is still really tough to beat. Not sure how Pixel can do against it, maybe better. But all the other phones I have tried there is no competition.
It still could be that my curiosity wins and I go pick up my Mate 9 Pro..if I don't like it..I have 850 euros worth phone laying useless..

Great shots from the last 2 posts.
I just want to add, pixel peeping is not the goal. Taking a memorable photo is

SWBgHz said:
Agree.
Would add, not even close ... Mate 9 way better. Had a blast this Christmas with the camera.
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Excellent photos, may God bless you and your lovely family and of course your mate 9 [emoji1]
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gavinfabl said:
Great shots from the last 2 posts.
I just want to add, pixel peeping is not the goal. Taking a memorable photo is
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Yeah you are absolutely right, said the magic words
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CandyAndy said:
I have to say that those pictures look extremely artificial. Its like the software did the bokeh effect.
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All are playing with the aperture effect, which can be dialed up or back or off even after the fact. I think it is great in the first two, the second two with it off are below though I think it makes for an interesting picture with it on. Using it this Christmas I will say it is best with non human subjects, stationary things. When used with people you can sometimes get a bit of the uncanny valley thing going on. But that said, I think the first two of the original pics I posted are great uses, the second two interesting applications.
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gavinfabl said:
Nobody really has answered the question for you properly. The Nexus 6P has a good camera on it with large pixels. The Mate 9 does not have pixels as large, nor does it have as fast a f stop.
So to answer your question, what do you use the camera for most? e.g. taking pics of kids or pets, indoor shots, or do you shoot a lot of video. etc
To answer the question without this knowledge, all I would say is the Mate 9 camera app allows for extreme creativity over its competition. The S7 has the fastest focus system so action shot or fast moving video is a breeze for it. The large pixels on the 6P are a blessing. The 6P is not the quickest at taking a shot.
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You have to remember that the Mate 9 has something else going for it here... a monochrome sensor which does not lose light capture due to an RGB color filter like other camera sensors. From what I am seeing, this seems to be more than making up for the fact that the aperture is f/2.2 and possibly having small pixels. Also, has there been any determination of the pixel size for the Mate 9's camera sensors... either the color RGB or BW sensors? I can't find any details on the actual sensor models themselves, nor the sensor sizes, nor the sensors' pixel sizes - any of these should give us an idea of how capable the camera sensor is. Also, remember that the lenses themselves are high quality Leica Summarit lenses, which does make a difference.
It seems like Huawei has done something really unique here by using the monochrome sensor to augment light and detail capture, plus having arguably the best digital zoom capabilities of any smartphone to date. My phone gets delivered on Wednesday, and if I have time/desire to do so, I will compare the camera as best as I can against my LG V20 and Pixel XL, using manual controls, zoom, etc.
CandyAndy said:
I have to say that those pictures look extremely artificial. Its like the software did the bokeh effect.
I currently have Nexus 6P and I have Mate 9 Pro waiting in the post office, but I am really hesitant to change. One obvious reason is the software but other reason is that Nexus 6P has probably the most underrated camera ever. I did have Samsung Galaxy S7 before, and while the camera is good its not as good as 6P has. I also have Oneplus3T now and while I love almost everything about this phone, on the camera department 6P just wipes the floor with it.
Especially in low light you can get really good detail. Samsung also yes, but I didn't like how with S7 every scenario got more bright. I felt that I lost the atmosphere in the shot.
Like the first picture I post here, it was really dark there, but I think I captured both the details and the atmosphere.
Summa Summarum, Nexus 6P is over a year old phone, but Google did some magic and it is still really tough to beat. Not sure how Pixel can do against it, maybe better. But all the other phones I have tried there is no competition.
It still could be that my curiosity wins and I go pick up my Mate 9 Pro..if I don't like it..I have 850 euros worth phone laying useless..
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The 6P is neck and neck against the Pixel phones in terms of photo quality when both devices have HDR+ On. The Pixels are much better though, for 3 reasons... first, they have HDR+ Auto which works in an entirely new way, giving an HDR+ "Lite" mode essentially that allows for instantaneous HDR capture with zero lag/delay. HDR+ Auto cannot give as much dynamic range as HDR+ On (which does have a lag/delay still), but it produces great results and identical results to HDR+ On in most situations... only some situations require HDR+ On for the best quality. Second, they have phase detection autofocus and a host of other sensor enhancements, which make speed/ease of capture MUCH better. The autofocus is almost as fast as the S7 now. Lastly, the HDR+ processing is much faster and doesn't get bogged down easily like the 6P does when taking numerous shots.
The 6P is still a great camera... just as good as the Pixels really, if you have time to get the shot and don't mind the lag from HDR+ On. But the Pixels are still easier to shoot with, and have MUCH better video if you need it.
I also want to mention, that I actually can get much better detail from my LG V20 than my Pixel XL when I try... specifically when using manual mode. Some of this is due to the higher megapixel count, but some of it is also due to having total control over the camera. I don't really trust manual camera apps to work well on the Pixels as they were not optimized for that usage like LG's phones. With that said, the Pixel/6P will have MUCH better dynamic range and consistency in photos over LG... but if you truly want the most detailed shot, and fine-tuned exactly how you want it, LG is the way to go... and maybe Huawei now too. LG's camera app is much better, but Huawei seems to have done a pretty good job in terms of manual control... will have to check out the results when I get my phone Wednesday.
SWBgHz said:
All are playing with the aperture effect, which can be dialed up or back or off even after the fact. I think it is great in the first two, the second two with it off are below though I think it makes for an interesting picture with it on. Using it this Christmas I will say it is best with non human subjects, stationary things. When used with people you can sometimes get a bit of the uncanny valley thing going on. But that said, I think the first two of the original pics I posted are great uses, the second two interesting applications.
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I would suggest uploading pictures to Flickr or Google Photos. XDA compresses them to crap if you attach them here, and the quality looks like garbage.

anyone experiencing stuttering while video recording? Found this to be quite bad!! but video playback is actually ok . Just while recording, the video is insanely laggy..! thought it was the save to sd card thing but no difference when there was no SD card inside. HELP!

gavinfabl said:
Nobody really has answered the question for you properly. The Nexus 6P has a good camera on it with large pixels. The Mate 9 does not have pixels as large, nor does it have as fast a f stop.
So to answer your question, what do you use the camera for most? e.g. taking pics of kids or pets, indoor shots, or do you shoot a lot of video. etc
To answer the question without this knowledge, all I would say is the Mate 9 camera app allows for extreme creativity over its competition. The S7 has the fastest focus system so action shot or fast moving video is a breeze for it. The large pixels on the 6P are a blessing. The 6P is not the quickest at taking a shot.
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The mate 9 also has dual cameras that make up for it's short comings in f stop and smaller pixels. And it has OIS which the 6p is terrible with on video.

All i know is the 6P, for me, was so slow to capture it drove me crazy. Mate 9 isn't quite as fast as my S7 but it is close and adding in the dual camera and zoom options I am finding it a far better experience than my 6P and even better than the S7.
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Anyone here who have both Nexus 6P and Mate 9? I would really appreciate if someone could take a few pictures with them for comparsion

The camera of the Nexus 6p is much better
Nexus 6p and now have mate 9.

jroman8 said:
The camera of the Nexus 6p is much better
Nexus 6p and now have mate 9.
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Could you post a few compare pictures from those two cellphones?

Nexus 6P camera better than Mate 9?
Hahahaha

A Couple Of Questions Regarding The Purchase Of A New Mate.

Good evening folks.
My Note 4 perished by cat and I've settled on a Mate 9 as my replacement phone. I have a couple of questions to those who own it before purchase though.
1.) How easy does the camera glass scratch? That was quite the issue for my Note 4. Will I require a full case to avoid image quality degradation by scratches?
2.) Are the new phone cases (not refurbished) sealed in any fashion from the factory. There are no official outlets here and I'm worried about buying a refurbished dud.
3.) Does the white version really feel like it's made out of Ceramic?
4.) I'd love to see some .dng low light / night and landscape sample images I could do some Photoshop magic on. I'm a photographer at heart and can't quite find anything but .jpegs out there.
Your help would be much appreciated! ^v^
Swan

Swan Princess said:
1.) How easy does the camera glass scratch? That was quite the issue for my Note 4. Will I require a full case to avoid image quality degradation by scratches?
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Google JerryRigEverything on youtube for his mate 9 video he does a durability video on this.

Here a low light raw pic https://www.mediafire.com/download/soa45631qw42i13

gm007 said:
Here a low light raw pic
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Thank you very much for your reply! It seems that the raw files can't be opened in my favorite DXO Optics Played around with some Photosop. It seems quite formidable to preserve details, but I see some noise in the recovered shadows / flat dark areas. The white balance errs a bit on the cool side of things. And you have a very comfy looking sofa, that made me feel sleepy :>I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My main interests are weather photography, as well as landscapes. I am sure I can make it work for my purposes.
Does a lens correction profile exist for this camera at all?

Swan Princess said:
Thank you very much for your reply! It seems that the raw files can't be opened in my favorite DXO Optics Played around with some Photosop. It seems quite formidable to preserve details, but I see some noise in the recovered shadows / flat dark areas. The white balance errs a bit on the cool side of things. And you have a very comfy looking sofa, that made me feel sleepy :>I guess I'll just have to get used to it. My main interests are weather photography, as well as landscapes. I am sure I can make it work for my purposes.
Does a lens correction profile exist for this camera at all?
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What do you mean by lens correction profile?
Do you need a preset correcting vignette and distortion?or you mean raw editor in Photoshop is limited?

gm007 said:
What do you mean by lens correction profile?
Do you need a preset correcting vignette and distortion?or you mean raw editor in Photoshop is limited?
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I do mean correction of lens geometry and I guess vignetting as well yes. Does such a thing even exist for this model? In all other aspects it seems to be mostly like a professional camera. I also mean that Photoshop does not have the correction information for the shot, like say Nexus 6P has (at least judging by the list of supported cameras in PS).

Swan Princess said:
I do mean correction of lens geometry and I guess vignetting as well yes. Does such a thing even exist for this model? In all other aspects it seems to be mostly like a professional camera. I also mean that Photoshop does not have the correction information for the shot, like say Nexus 6P has (at least judging by the list of supported cameras in PS).
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In Photoshop there is lens correction in filters menu.
Yes exif data is not available,maybe need an updated camera raw software.
In my opinion the camera is very good and using the manual mode you can easily take great photos.

gm007 said:
In Photoshop there is lens correction in filters menu.
Yes exif data is not available,maybe need an updated camera raw software.
In my opinion the camera is very good and using the manual mode you can easily take great photos.
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I also noticed that the JPEG processing algorithm does wonders to reduce the noise! Alas I'm very obsessed over shooting everything in .dng / RAW!
There is lens correction, but I can't find support for this phone / lens combination. Without such a profile the correction is useless. EXIF data is all there, as far as I can see with IrfanView and it all looks legit. Phone model, exposure time, F-Stop, etc. Why would you say EXIF isn't available? Can't you see it?

I couldn't see it in Photoshop but with acdsee pro it's there.
I was comparing the raw files from my p9 and it seems they are better than mate 9.
Not sure why but i will do more test tomorrow.

gm007 said:
I couldn't see it in Photoshop but with acdsee pro it's there.
I was comparing the raw files from my p9 and it seems they are better than mate 9.
Not sure why but i will do more test tomorrow.
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Could you set up a tripod then inside and take two same low light images on Mate 9 and P9 with the same settings and share with us please? Would be really nice!

Swan Princess said:
Could you set up a tripod then inside and take two same low light images on Mate 9 and P9 with the same settings and share with us please? Would be really nice!
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Sure tomorrow, it's around 1 am here

gm007 said:
Sure tomorrow, it's around 1 am here
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Yeah, soon 0200 in the night and I'ms till awake. All those thoughts swarming in my head. Another thing I'd love to see is dark noise comparison. So ISO 100, 30-second exposures with the lenses closed with both P9 and Mate 9. That's quite an important figure in photography. What do the sensors show, when there's nothing to show.

Swan Princess said:
Yeah, soon 0200 in the night and I'ms till awake. All those thoughts swarming in my head. Another thing I'd love to see is dark noise comparison. So ISO 100, 30-second exposures with the lenses closed with both P9 and Mate 9. That's quite an important figure in photography. What do the sensors show, when there's nothing to show.
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Yes i see more blue noise in mate 9 than p9 in dark or closed lens.

gm007 said:
Yes i see more blue noise in mate 9 than p9 in dark or closed lens.
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Well, that is interesting. I thought that the camera sensors should be identical in them both? Could anyone else confirm that the image quality is worse on the Mate, then it is on the P9?

Swan Princess said:
Well, that is interesting. I thought that the camera sensors should be identical in them both? Could anyone else confirm that the image quality is worse on the Mate, then it is on the P9?
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P9 has 2 12MP sensors,mate 9 has 1 12MP and 1 20MP,there is no info which sensors they use.
I will do the test when i get home.

gm007 said:
P9 has 2 12MP sensors,mate 9 has 1 12MP and 1 20MP,there is no info which sensors they use.
I will do the test when i get home.
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Try doing the test with 1.1x zoom as well. I heard the image quality improves quite a bit. Seems that the JPEG is made from both sensors and the .dng from only one?

Swan Princess said:
Try doing the test with 1.1x zoom as well. I heard the image quality improves quite a bit. Seems that the JPEG is made from both sensors and the .dng from only one?
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Didn't have time last night Champions League
But i did quick test at 100 iso 30sec for both mate9 and p9,here the dng files https://www.mediafire.com/download/1w8rosw8jxcnw2r

gm007 said:
Didn't have time last night Champions League
But i did quick test at 100 iso 30sec for both mate9 and p9,here the dng files https://www.mediafire.com/download/1w8rosw8jxcnw2r
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I did a quick enhance on those dark images in Photoshop and it seems indeed that the two phones run completely different imaging hardware. The P9 had a bit of amp glow on the top and bottom of the image, while the Mate 9 had a darker circle in the middle and overall much less noise. Very interesting, also none of those two files had EXIF in them this time. Not sure what to think about it all. Am I just doing silly things?

Another question I have before purchase is would it be possible to tell of a re-branded version, if I aim to get the EU 64GB one? May I get a re-flashed Chinese one instead? Is there a surefire way to tell of a genuine L29 was it?

Swan Princess said:
Another question I have before purchase is would it be possible to tell of a re-branded version, if I aim to get the EU 64GB one? May I get a re-flashed Chinese one instead? Is there a surefire way to tell of a genuine L29 was it?
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Only the imei on box should match imei inside the phone.

Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy S9+'s camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

These 2 photos were taken in dark factory yesterday with my 9+

I'll post some lathe pictures tomorrow (S9+) getting delivered tonight.

Taken at nighttime, no flash S9+

Sorry wrong thread
Someone pls delete

Some pictures taken at night; pretty impressed with the camera quality and clarity:
:fingers-crossed:

Galaxo60 said:
Some pictures taken at night; pretty impressed with the camera quality and clarity:
:fingers-crossed:
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The one with the shed turned out really good. The sky looks awesome

zathus said:
The one with the shed turned out really good. The sky looks awesome
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Yes, camera is awesome and I'm pretty happy with the device.

Low light on this phone is incredible. Ive never seen a phone like it when it comes to the dark. https://youtu.be/ZX_JY35oFCc

jrharvey said:
Low light on this phone is incredible. Ive never seen a phone like it when it comes to the dark. https://youtu.be/ZX_JY35oFCc
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Finally we have a proof which one is better. Clearly S9+ has better cam than Google Pixel 2!
Pixel 2 eat your heart out. Finally!
THANK YOU from all XDA Members who had any doubt about which of these two phones to buy!!

androidbadboy said:
Finally we have a proof which one is better. Clearly S9+ has better cam than Google Pixel 2!
Pixel 2 eat your heart out. Finally!
THANK YOU from all XDA Members who had any doubt about which of these two phones to buy!!
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Well to be fair I own both phones and they both have their strength and weaknesses. I prefer the google pixel 2 PICTURES right now however once GCAM gets ported to the S9 I think the advantage will 100% go to the galaxy. For now the video on the S9 is much better but if your into auto snapshots the pixel 2 still probably beats out in good lighting. Move to low light and of course the S9 just destroys the pixel 2.

jrharvey said:
Well to be fair I own both phones and they both have their strength and weaknesses. I prefer the google pixel 2 PICTURES right now however once GCAM gets ported to the S9 I think the advantage will 100% go to the galaxy. For now the video on the S9 is much better but if your into auto snapshots the pixel 2 still probably beats out in good lighting. Move to low light and of course the S9 just destroys the pixel 2.
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Did I understand You right? You claim that Pixel 2 makes better photos than S9+ in daylight?!

androidbadboy said:
Did I understand You right? You claim that Pixel 2 makes better photos than S9+ in daylight?!
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Thats just my personal opinion. Also I believe this will change once gcam gets ported to the S9. Its all subjective and really depends on the situation but Id much prefer the S9 camera over the pixel 2 in 95% of the situations because #1 I care more about video and #2 the daytime shots are very similar and almost not noticable however once you get in low light the S9 really flexes its muscle for sure. The dynamic range on the pixel 2 IN PICTURES during the day definately is slightly better HOWEVER when it comes to video the S9 can pull off some pretty impressive dynamic range if you have the right app or if you edit the footage in post. I dont like how contrasty samsungs video is but luckily you can pull out a ton of detail from the shadows in an editing program if you need to.

androidbadboy said:
Finally we have a proof which one is better. Clearly S9+ has better cam than Google Pixel 2!
Pixel 2 eat your heart out. Finally!
THANK YOU from all XDA Members who had any doubt about which of these two phones to buy!!
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Well to be fair I own both phones and they both have their strength and weaknesses. I prefer the google pixel 2 PICTURES right now however once GCAM gets ported to the S9 I think the advantage will 100% go to the galaxy. For now the video on the S9 is much better but if your into auto snapshots the pixel 2 still probably beats out in good lighting. Move to low light and of course the S9 just destroys the pixel 2.
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Did I understand You right? You claim that Pixel 2 makes better photos than S9+ in daylight?!
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jrharvey said:
Thats just my personal opinion. Also I believe this will change once gcam gets ported to the S9. Its all subjective and really depends on the situation but Id much prefer the S9 camera over the pixel 2 in 95% of the situations because #1 I care more about video and #2 the daytime shots are very similar and almost not noticable however once you get in low light the S9 really flexes its muscle for sure. The dynamic range on the pixel 2 IN PICTURES during the day definately is slightly better HOWEVER when it comes to video the S9 can pull off some pretty impressive dynamic range if you have the right app or if you edit the footage in post. I dont like how contrasty samsungs video is but luckily you can pull out a ton of detail from the shadows in an editing program if you need to.
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After having the Pixel 2 XL and now the S9+, I prefer the camera on the S9+, because Pixel 2 XL processes the pics too much and they look unreal. They are just social network ready, but not natural at all, and it usually oversharps and put a lot of drama to the pictures. They look nice at first sight, but just try to zoom a little in details and you will notice the loss in detail and quality. In low light, Pixel is just noise and grain.
Anyway, I leave here a video I really liked and to say this guy made a great job comparing both cameras:
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Galaxo60 said:
After having the Pixel 2 XL and now the S9+, I prefer the camera on the S9+, because Pixel 2 XL processes the pics too much and they look unreal. They are just social network ready, but not natural at all, and it usually oversharps and put a lot of drama to the pictures. They look nice at first sight, but just try to zoom a little in details and you will notice the loss in detail and quality. In low light, Pixel is just noise and grain.
Anyway, I leave here a video I really liked and to say this guy made a great job comparing both cameras:
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Very helpful video for the undecided ones!

UHD/60 is amazing.
Compared to my Note 8, well there is no comparison.
I'm talking low light. I can take video in a dark passageway and play it back and see more than my eyes can AND it's not a snowy, grainy mess!
That's impressive indeed!

cpufrost said:
UHD/60 is amazing.
Compared to my Note 8, well there is no comparison.
I'm talking low light. I can take video in a dark passageway and play it back and see more than my eyes can AND it's not a snowy, grainy mess!
That's impressive indeed!
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Seriously You can see MORE with S9+ than with your naked eyes? Do You use flashlight when looking at dark areas with S9+?
I'm SHOCKED. This is quite amazing and quite impossible.

Nope, when I look at video taken in a dark room I can make it more details than I can with my own eyes.
My eyes are good in the dark, all I need is a single 3 lumen night light to walk around in a 400 ft^2 room. Just as a security camera night (IR) mode can reveal details, it's far inferior to a brightly lit room. Our eyes work the same way. The image processing is amazing that it can reduce noise reasonably well and preserve color balance. Non of my other devices can do this.

cpufrost said:
Nope, when I look at video taken in a dark room I can make it more details than I can with my own eyes.
My eyes are good in the dark, all I need is a single 3 lumen night light to walk around in a 400 ft^2 room. Just as a security camera night (IR) mode can reveal details, it's far inferior to a brightly lit room. Our eyes work the same way. The image processing is amazing that it can reduce noise reasonably well and preserve color balance. Non of my other devices can do this.
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So it's final then, S9+ broke all barriers for smartphone cameras. It's the best in the world. No doubt about it. Iphone X and Pixel 2 can not hold a candle to S9+
Congrats to Samsung!

Well let's put it this way. I have an iPhone X. I use it for work and Apple dev projects. I like it a lot. It's the best iPhone I've owned. And I preferred it over my Note 8 for video based on the fact that it can do UHD at 60fps. It still has issues with AF hunting though. I have not tested the 9+ to see how it fares in that department. In the dark, however, off come the kids gloves. Video is the best I've seen. I also use Filmic Pro and ProCam on the X to get the best out of the hardware. Tough to beat physics with f 1.5. The processing helps too. SEC does need to work on the glare problems, however. And given such a small lens aperture I suppose reflections are just impossible to avoid (inter element reflections). Take video of a bright light on the ceiling or at a concert with multiple points of bright light, you will see.
As for the Pixel phones, my last Google device was the Nexus 6. Loved the dev on that phone but its time has come and gone. Hated the aesthetics of the Pixel series. The N6 had a great camera but horrible software. I don't care for TW but SEC got it right on the camera software out of the box. Ever since the S6E+. I wish they would move back to a 16MP sensor though. Shooting RAW in pro mode yielded some incredible shots that are hard to get today still.

camera quality

Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks

mancuk29 said:
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
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I have Note10, didn't see any monochrome lens, but possibly can be applied later as an effect. Nigh camera mode is there. I like images that this phone produced. I usually take photos of the nature, clouds and such... I haven't had a chance to put the camera into a good use, but I will.

Coming from two Pixels the camera on the new note is.... alright..
The issue i have is that you need to mess with different modes to figure out which mode to be in to get the best picture. For instance in regular mode i cant get a crisp picture of anything moving at all. My sons slight movements even cause a blur which sucks. In pro mode it makes the shutter much quicker and is able to snap moving targets.
Portrait mode is also a weird one. Live Focus kind of sucks and takes a ton of time to snap a photo so youll have to make sure that whatever youre shooting stays absolutely still. Again pro mode works pretty well but youll need to quickly change your ISO/fstop etc to get the best color.
Im currently using the Gcam port from the s10 and it works a bit better at getting overall better photos.
Im very used to opening my camera app and quickly taking the best photo possible so for me this is the biggest issue i have with the phone. My advice if you're a camera person is to wait for the next Pixel and make a decision from there

I disagree with Cosmo. I would say if you are a camera person then you know about photography. Basically everything he pointed out tells me he doesn't understand. That is exactly the type of person who should get the Pixel. If you know how cameras work then the n10 has everything you need to get amazing pictures.

mancuk29 said:
Have just bought the note 10 plus 5g and am moving from Huawei mate 20 X
The reason is the screen quality and the uncertainty with Huawei plus of course the 5g
Can anyone tell me about the camera is it good ? I owned note 9 and loved the note experience but the camera was poor
I just hope I'm not making a mistake moving as the camera on the mate 20 X is brilliant as shown below (only issue the AI is bad and I have it switched off most of the time)
Is there any monochrome ?? And night camera ??
I've enclosed a picture from the mate 20 X for comparison
Thanks
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Nice photo of my home town
I've come across from the Mate 20 X as well, went to Crosby beach last night to take some photos and they came out really well, there is a night mode which i dabbled with and came out well.
I've not found a monochrome option but that can just be done through snapseed etc

yetiweston said:
Nice photo of my home town
I've come across from the Mate 20 X as well, went to Crosby beach last night to take some photos and they came out really well, there is a night mode which i dabbled with and came out well.
I've not found a monochrome option but that can just be done through snapseed etc
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Love Liverpool ? thank you that's what I wanted to hear someone who has come from the mighty mate 20 X
How do you cope with slightly less real estate screen wise ?
Can you make the icons smaller on the note 10 plus as they are huge compared to my mate 20 X

wraptor said:
I disagree with Cosmo. I would say if you are a camera person then you know about photography. Basically everything he pointed out tells me he doesn't understand. That is exactly the type of person who should get the Pixel. If you know how cameras work then the n10 has everything you need to get amazing pictures.
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I am and I love to use pro the problem with the mate 20 X is the AI gimic it massively over saturated the pictures I don't use it and normally unless I want a quick pic use pro mode

Hopefully can reproduce shots like this when my note 10 plus lands tomorrow ?

mancuk29 said:
Love Liverpool thank you that's what I wanted to hear someone who has come from the mighty mate 20 X
How do you cope with slightly less real estate screen wise ?
Can you make the icons smaller on the note 10 plus as they are huge compared to my mate 20 X
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It's taking some getting used to, to most people the screen is probably large but coming from the X it's tiny in comparison. One benefit I've noticed is walking round I just don't notice the Note 10 being there.
Yes you can make the icons smaller, I've changed the DPI to 551 and it's made the icons a nice size for me, just mess about with the DPI till you find a size you like

yetiweston said:
It's taking some getting used to, to most people the screen is probably large but coming from the X it's tiny in comparison. One benefit I've noticed is walking round I just don't notice the Note 10 being there.
Yes you can make the icons smaller, I've changed the DPI to 551 and it's made the icons a nice size for me, just mess about with the DPI till you find a size you like
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Could you screen shot so I can see how the icons look.like ??

Here you go

yetiweston said:
Here you go
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That's so much better thank you hate the massive icons

Oneplus 9 vs 8t camera

So I just got the oneplus 8t and the camera processing is really, really bad. It's way too saturated and worst of all, it just clips all shadow details to black, it's horrible compared to my mi 9 which has the same exact main sensor, without ois as well. BUT, it's very annoying as I really enjoy the phone in regard to other aspects but don't know how to put up with a much worse camera.
I'm pretty sure I'll return it even if it makes me sad, but would like to get the oneplus 9 for 100 euros more instead if the photos aren't so contrasty and saturated. To the people that have taken photos with both, can you say if the photos on the 9 are on the more natural side with a focus on more shadow details instead of insane levels of contrast?

kingbasescu said:
So I just got the oneplus 8t and the camera processing is really, really bad. It's way too saturated and worst of all, it just clips all shadow details to black, it's horrible compared to my mi 9 which has the same exact main sensor, without ois as well. BUT, it's very annoying as I really enjoy the phone in regard to other aspects but don't know how to put up with a much worse camera.
I'm pretty sure I'll return it even if it makes me sad, but would like to get the oneplus 9 for 100 euros more instead if the photos aren't so contrasty and saturated. To the people that have taken photos with both, can you say if the photos on the 9 are on the more natural side with a focus on more shadow details instead of insane levels of contrast?
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Just get Gcam

knn130 said:
Just get Gcam
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Yeah, have done that a day after I put this thread up, it improves the main camera by a lot, sadly only for pictures, video is still crap on both. Front camera behaves better too but adds a greenish tint to my face in some situations. Glad I don't have to return this phone too, woulve've been my 6th return, at least this one doesn't have issues down to very basic levels like I found on the s21 ultra or the 12 pro max while costing 500 euros less than these.

What's the most stable gcam version? Cos most of them i have tried have some kind of problem.

sansanc said:
What's the most stable gcam version? Cos most of them i have tried have some kind of problem.
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I use greatness latest gcam. What kind of issues were you having?

azoller1 said:
I use greatness latest gcam. What kind of issues were you having?
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Don't remember, but it sucked. Will try again.