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The wake locks will never go. Ever.

Hello,
I am on ParanoidAndroid 4.4 and the battery drain is killing me. I have to charge my phone at least twice a day if I'm outside just because I'm scared of having my phone die on me. I was on stock 4.4.3 up until recently but the sudden wakelocks at random times would kill me so I switched to PA to at least have a few extras like Hover and its even worse now. I'm using ElementalX kernel now because of how amazing the battery life is supposed to be but I am almost crying :'(
I have noticed that if I turn WiFi off, the phone will go to sleep without any problems but turn it on and it'll stay up all night and all day draining the battery 2% every 5 minutes of use. It appears GoogleSearch is the culprit but I'd like some more help on this.
I have uploaded some screenshots if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it.
Thank you.
WakeLockDetector: http://i.imgur.com/oHHRxoE.png
BetterBatteryStats: http://i.imgur.com/C9VEYDx.png (the stats appear to be screwed a little after I turned WiFi off) Logs: http://pastebin.com/vrRpdDdm
Android Battery stats: http://i.imgur.com/hSCfvoa.png and http://i.imgur.com/iVEsVuX.png
EDIT:
I've charged my phone again after disabling Google Now and hibernating WhatsApp and Viber in Greenify. Here are some screenshots. It's still the same
System battery: http://i.imgur.com/qq0I0uc.png
GSam: http://imgur.com/1KIZjJp and http://imgur.com/6JcI1Zs

whisky_ said:
Hello,
I am on ParanoidAndroid 4.4 and the battery drain is killing me. I have to charge my phone at least twice a day if I'm outside just because I'm scared of having my phone die on me. I was on stock 4.4.3 up until recently but the sudden wakelocks at random times would kill me so I switched to PA to at least have a few extras like Hover and its even worse now. I'm using ElementalX kernel now because of how amazing the battery life is supposed to be but I am almost crying :'(
I have noticed that if I turn WiFi off, the phone will go to sleep without any problems but turn it on and it'll stay up all night and all day draining the battery 2% every 5 minutes of use. It appears GoogleSearch is the culprit but I'd like some more help on this.
I have uploaded some screenshots if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it.
Thank you.
WakeLockDetector: http://i.imgur.com/oHHRxoE.png
BetterBatteryStats: http://i.imgur.com/C9VEYDx.png (the stats appear to be screwed a little after I turned WiFi off) Logs: http://pastebin.com/vrRpdDdm
Android Battery stats: http://i.imgur.com/hSCfvoa.png and http://i.imgur.com/iVEsVuX.png
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Disable Google Now and Greenify it. If it's a system app, I recommend using a minimal gapps package. Like the one from my signature.
If that's still not good enough, Greenify WhatsApp and Viber. We need to see if they are the cause. I suspect something else is the issue, but let's rule out your top 3.
Oh I almost forgot. Thank you for posting a BBS log without being asked.

Aerowinder said:
Disable Google Now and Greenify it. If it's a system app, I recommend using a minimal gapps package. Like the one from my signature.
If that's still not good enough, Greenify WhatsApp and Viber. We need to see if they are the cause. I suspect something else is the issue, but let's rule out your top 3.
Oh I almost forgot. Thank you for posting a BBS log without being asked.
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Greenify won't allow me to hibernate it since its a System app and asks me to buy the donate package. Also, I'm on ART so Xposed doesn't work for me. Is there a workaround?

whisky_ said:
Greenify won't allow me to hibernate it since its a System app and asks me to buy the donate package. Also, I'm on ART so Xposed doesn't work for me. Is there a workaround?
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App Ops and nuke it's permissions.
Neither ROM nor kernel will help your battery life.

Lethargy said:
App Ops and nuke it's permissions.
Neither ROM nor kernel will help your battery life.
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Can't nuke permissions for System apps

whisky_ said:
Can't nuke permissions for System apps
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Then change it to a user app with Titanium Backup, etc lol. If you installed it from the Play Store it would be a user app, it's installed as a system app if it's flashed in a gapps package. Shouldn't have any problems moving it. You could also Greenify it for free if you did that..

Aerowinder said:
Disable Google Now and Greenify it. If it's a system app, I recommend using a minimal gapps package. Like the one from my signature.
If that's still not good enough, Greenify WhatsApp and Viber. We need to see if they are the cause. I suspect something else is the issue, but let's rule out your top 3.
Oh I almost forgot. Thank you for posting a BBS log without being asked.
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I've updated my post to add GSam stats for a little while after disabling Google Now and hibernating WhatsApp and Viber. Thanks for your time.

whisky_ said:
I've updated my post to add GSam stats for a little while after disabling Google Now and hibernating WhatsApp and Viber. Thanks for your time.
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You said you are on PA. You need to wipe system, reflash PA, then flash the Banks minimal gapps in my signature. Then download Google search from play store. Google Now is now user app and can Greenify it. After you do that, send another BBS log.
You will also need Nova launcher or similar. Banks gapps doesn't come with a launcher.

OK guys....look at this I found.
Last night I enabled the new "OK google from any screen" option, in Google settings, OK Google hotword detection.
Then after only after I woke up (didn't charge...I charged before bed) look what I saw....held awake time on Google search, which I've never gotten before.
So a couple hours ago I turned from any screen option off.....no more held awake time on search.
So guys with Google search out of control.....that might be the issue.
Too bad too....I liked that new feature, but Google gone messed it up.....again.

KJ said:
OK guys....look at this I found.
Last night I enabled the new "OK google from any screen" option, in Google settings, OK Google hotword detection.
Then after only after I woke up (didn't charge...I charged before bed) look what I saw....held awake time on Google search, which I've never gotten before.
So a couple hours ago I turned from any screen option off.....no more held awake time on search.
So guys with Google search out of control.....that might be the issue.
Too bad too....I liked that new feature, but Google gone messed it up.....again.
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Sadly, this is to be expected at this point.

I think like double tap to wake.... If it isn't on the low voltage core, like moto x always listening is, its never gonna be battery friendly. But people wanted....they got it...kinda. Better than having to be on a certain screen anyway. Just now audio in is listening to every sound it hears.

Battery drain (Google account manager)

Let me start off by saying I was so happy with this phone and its battery life but the past couple of days I've seen it drain more than usual. Upon checking I see that Google account manager is responsible for this.
Anyone have an idea what caused this? and how to fix it?

i noticed the same on my chinese mate 9 however the % is below 40 still, from what I can see on my case is the google photos app causing all the noise I had disable synching over cellular data but haven't seen any improvement so far. I did that 2 days ago

Same here on my P10.
How many Google Accounts do you guys have linked? I currently have 4.

Raylow said:
Same here on my P10.
How many Google Accounts do you guys have linked? I currently have 4.
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I have 2 on mine.

Raylow said:
Same here on my P10.
How many Google Accounts do you guys have linked? I currently have 4.
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2 account

Thx for your replies guys!
Meanwhile I accidentally found out that this might be the process what is on other phones the Google Play Services.
I tapped on the Google Account Manager entry and scrolled down to the bottom of the next view and there it is..
Still I haven't seen the "Googl Account Manager" process ever before I assume that Huawei handles or at least displays the processes differently than others (at least Samsung) do.
For me it's a good thing since I see way more processes sucking battery than my SGS7 showed me.
Remembering the battery drain on my SGS7 the Google Play Services had pretty similar battery drain like the "mother process" Google Account Manager has on my P10.
So I think that's it
What do you guys think?

I have the same problem, lot's of times it's a Google calendar fail sync or Google fit fail sync because the system close it and when Google account has do a sync that's impossible because the apps are closed so I'm testing to not force closing Google apps. I will tell you my results
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Use gsam battery monitor
I'm currently doing troubleshooting to find out why this is

virtyx said:
Use gsam battery monitor
I'm currently doing troubleshooting to find out why this is
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Mine is the damn android OS. its using 33% average. no idea why latest update too

leo72793 said:
Mine is the damn android OS. its using 33% average. no idea why latest update too
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its normal for android OS or android system to use battery
android OS is in respect to the kernel however.

virtyx said:
its normal for android OS or android system to use battery
android OS is in respect to the kernel however.
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Still shouldn't use that much. Literally it's the most used one. One hour of screen use today and I'm down 25%
My Huawei watch is the only thing connected. No autosync no nothing. Used it minimally. My note 5 after last update and a reset lost maybe 6% all day. Android OS n kernel aren't an option. It's not on 7.0 tho

Does anyone have a solution for this? It is horrible since a few weeks (no update in the meantime, no other apps installed): Google Play Services (Google Account Manager) are very active, device gets hot, reboot helps for a short time, but almost every day I have a huge battery drain. Before the last weeks, this was not a problem at all, battery usage was super.
L29, B156

Hielko said:
Does anyone have a solution for this? It is horrible since a few weeks (no update in the meantime, no other apps installed): Google Play Services (Google Account Manager) are very active, device gets hot, reboot helps for a short time, but almost every day I have a huge battery drain. Before the last weeks, this was not a problem at all, battery usage was super.
L29, B156
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Do you have developer options enabled?
I've had the same problem, after diasabling developer options it seems to be somewhat better but not really cured.
I also enabled in settings the automatic memory and data cleanup as I've found that cleaning all app caches helped for a short period of time.

I fixed my by doing factory reset. Now everything is back to normal.
Also before I had a problem that whatsapp didn't show messages if I didn't open up the app. This issue also got fixed the same time.

I'm suddenly having high consumption by media server - have no idea what it means and the phone is quite hot.

zayidhs said:
I'm suddenly having high consumption by media server - have no idea what it means and the phone is quite hot.
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mediaserver can be due to listening or streaming music, or indexing music.
its fairly normal, however if your rooted you can disable it in an init.d script.
stop mediaserver works.
or
su -c pm disable mediaserver

virtyx said:
mediaserver can be due to listening or streaming music, or indexing music.
its fairly normal, however if your rooted you can disable it in an init.d script.
stop mediaserver works.
or
su -c pm disable mediaserver
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Thanks, I've been listening to music all day. I'm not rooted so I guess I'll have to keep on with it.
Shut down for a while then restarted the phone and it's no more getting hot.

CandyAndy said:
I fixed my by doing factory reset. Now everything is back to normal.
Also before I had a problem that whatsapp didn't show messages if I didn't open up the app. This issue also got fixed the same time.
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ive still got issues with android os using the most power. i only get 6-7 hours max screen time. i use my huawei watch via BT. latest update for the USA 183

Seems to be getting worse. Now I'm slated max 27 hours. WTF

in reality battery life never gets better. The constant discharge, and charge rates only put wear and tear on the battery. It would great to have the ability to swap batteries on the fly.
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Having bad battery life on Nougat? Check this.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------​What I have right now out of Doze are "Bluetooth MIDI Service", "Bluetooth Share", the "Clock" app and two other Clock apps.
I am not sure how effective is the method listed below after the last update. Stay tuned.​​
Also I think the current version of Facebook Messenger is draining too much battery.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------​Hello everyone,
when I bought my Zenfone 3 ZE520KL, I was amazed by it's battery life. I could easily get around 8 hours of SOT in a single charge with moderate usage. My device was running Android Marshmallow 6.0 out of the box, but performance wasn't as good. On Nougat, performance is much better and faster, also I used to get some lags and frozen screen, the capacitive keys also sometimes froze when I was charging my phone, but now I don't get issues like that as often as before. Interface is so much more appealing and I love it.
But what about battery life? I started getting around 5 hours of SOT.. which is still good, but not really close to 8 hours. I thought a lot about these 3 hours that were missing so I decided to start investigating. I wanted to share my findings with you so maybe you would know something that could help.
It's been two weeks since I have been testing out different things. The apps I used to do my research are:
Carat. What I love about this app is the process list. It shows exactly which apps and system processes are running in the background, so I can control them very easily.
Greenify. Thanks to the Carat app, I can see which apps continue running in the background, so I can use Greenify to hibernate them after I'm done using them. (Examples: Youtube, Snapchat etc.). Also I bought the Donation Package, and unlocked the other modes using adb commands (my device is not rooted).
BetterBatteryStats. This app is usually used to detect wakelocks. I limited the Google Calendar App from syncing so it doesn't use too much battery in the background. This app is paid in Google Play but you can get it for free from here.
What I did to get better battery life:
I excluded the services, that were always running in the process list from the Carat App from Doze. Apparently, the new Doze in Nougat gives us permission to optimize more system processes and services than before, which can backfire - Doze starts trying to kill processes that can't be killed, and this results in consuming more battery juice than saving it.
How to enter Doze settings and make the following changes:
Go to "Settings" > Select "Battery" > Tap on the three dots at the upper-right corner > Select "Battery Optimization" > Select "All Apps" > Find and tap on the Apps/Services/Processes I have listed below > Select "Do not optimize". The other apps and services should stay optimized.
The apps, processes and services that I removed from Doze are:
Android Services Library
Android System
ASUS Calling Screen
Bluetooth MIDI Service
Bluetooth Share
Camera
Clock
com.android.smspush
com.asus.keyboard
com.asus.shim
com.qti.qualcomm.datastatusnotification
com.qualcomm.qti.tetherservice
org.codeaurora.bluetooth
org.codeaurora.ims
com.qualcomm.qcrilsgtunnel
ICESound Service
Mobile Manager
MobileManagerService
System UI
Telecom Service
Telephony Service
ZenUI Keyboard
ZenUI Launcher
Some other apps that I'm using: Do It Later, Greenify, Messages, Nova Launcher, Timely, Weather.
Please do a full charge to 100% afterwards and check if the battery still drains as quickly as before. Your feedback will be greatly appreciated.
I am already starting to see improvement in my battery life. I was losing around 2% on Stand By and battery was draining fast when I was using the phone, but now I lost 0% on Stand By overnight and 10% for 1 hour of SOT (before this I was losing 10% for 30 min. of SOT). I am still trying to figure out which services exactly are causing the drain, when they are being optimized. Maybe the services, included in the Android System? (Check them from Settings > Battery > Android System > Included Packages). I deleted Facebook and Twitter apps and started using them from Chrome (almost the same thing, I quickly got used to that). Please check the updates below for more info and share your opinion or advice in the comments so we can all reach a better experience with this amazing smartphone.
Thank you for reading!
Update1: 6h30min SOT with 30% left (917mAh, 35%), but I will have to charge now. I have been messing with Doze a lot, maybe I'll get more clean results later. Progress has been made though, at least with my device.
Update2: Something interesting - my J-Score with the Carat app before and after starting this experiment: http://i.imgur.com/Q8u6HBD.jpg
Update3: There is a battery drain when making voice calls - 226mAh (7%) were lost because of 43 minutes long talk time.
Results were worse after testing with the second list removed, although there wasn't much draining with the screen on: SOT - 5h20min for 70% of battery (752mAh, 20%).
Update4: com.android.phone appears as a wakelock at BBS (Wakeups:8). Also 2h30 SOT for 30% used battery (100-70%~408 mAh). I'm updating the list and trying again.
Please note that my phone is updated to the latest firmware WW_Phone-14.2020.1703.28-20170410.
Update5: com.android.phone is still an active wakelock (Wakeups:14), but SOT is 2h34min for 30% used battery (100-70%~343mAh). At 30% battery left, SOT is almost 6hrs(28%~787mAh), Device Idle is at 10% (291mAh). The MobileManagerService is causing way too many wakelocks and is probably the reason for the high Device Idle battery usage.
Update6: MobileManagerService is no longer showing as a frequent wakelock. com.android.phone (Telephony Service - Wakeups:9) and com.google.android.apps.messaging are the most persistent wakelocks, other than that battery life is amazing at the moment. SOT is 2h45min for 30% used battery (100-70%~366mAh). I also had 27 min of talk time (4%~145mAh). At 30% left, I have 6h33min of SOT (32%~912mAh). Device Idle is again at 10% (292mAh). We are ready for the final test.
Update7: The results are quite interesting. After removing com.qti.qualcomm.telephonyservice from Doze, com.android.phone stopped appearing as a frequent wakelock at first, but now, at 70% it has 16 wakeups. SOT is 2h22min (100-70%~318mAh), so it's not better. I'm going to try a few more changes.
Update 8: I posted it as a reply here.
Update 9: I shouldn't have put Task Manager out of Doze, I get so much better battery life now. The update is ready, check it here.

Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.

1noob said:
Good post, thank you for investigating this, please let us know if you find more stuff or what exactly is responsible for it and an easy way of fixing.
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Hello! Thank you for your reply. I'm so happy I could help others and myself with this thread, but I also need to know if you are also seeing any difference. Please check here regularly!
Also, I'm guessing that when you put your system processes and services in Doze, you also decrease their performance, which causes battery draining, as they try to run normally and do their work. Doze is trying to prevent them from doing that. This is my conclusion, but only results will show if I'm correct. If you own yourself a Zenfone 3, please feel free to report if you experience any changes using my method.
Thank you and have a nice day!

Hi, thank you for the post. I have a zenfone 3 here and will try your method.

I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:

Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw

pedromms86 said:
Do you remove the first and second list from doze ? or ate testing with only the second list now?
Nice findings btw
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I have removed everything from both of the lists. It's still early to say but no major battery drain is noticed for now. Thanks!

bibbomio said:
I'm trying it on ze520kl with marschmallow, it seems working fine. :highfive:
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Awesome! :good:

Thank you so much for this article. Well written as well. I have applied the changes and so far no issues (it has been 6 h is). Will report once I have more history

I remove the apps from doze, and can say it really improve battery (test for one day)
thanks !

@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?

New update is released via OTA (~500MB).

pedromms86 said:
@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Too early to say, also I got a weird wakelock, and lost 2% overnight. I lost the results (100-90%) after a restart. Now I'm going to update my phone and start again.
I had 8% used up on 43 minutes of SOT, and 2% lost on voice calls (100 and something mAh). I went to bed with 92%, I guess the other 2% were lost on that wakelock and the clock wakelock. These 2% were lost on equal intervals.
It's going to take a while, I'm just using my device normally. I don't have time to be on my phone all the time, also the battery is harder to drain now. At this point, I'm just trying to get better results.
Cheers!

pedromms86 said:
@Blackrose110 any news improvements after update3 ?
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Check again tomorrow!

RobinRo said:
New update is released via OTA (~500MB).
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Updating...

I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates

ci6i said:
I don't think it is a good ideea to change Doze settings for system services like com.qualcomm.* or telephony*.
In theory, these services should be compatible with operating system and they should work as designed. I would focus on third-party apps who doesn't work well on Nougat.
Anyway, is just an opinion and i'm looking forward for updates
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Hello ci6i, I also agree with you, and that's why I excluded all of them from Doze when I first tried this out. At the moment, I removed only those system services, that run in the background all the time. My goal is to find the least amount of system services and processes, that are causing battery drain when the phone is in use.
I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
You can download Carat for free from Google Play and check the process list, it's very useful. The app itself doesn't use any battery.
Good luck!

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I am not saying that you should do exactly what I did. It's best if you try out yourself on your own device what works and what doesn't.
I also have only excluded from Doze apps that I use daily. But everyone is using different apps and it depends only on the developers to update them.
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I agree with you and i really appreciate your work Yesterday I've installed Carat after i read your first post and today i did new OTA update and cleared cache partition. Let's see how it works in the next few days.

What should I do next, guys? Remove other com.qualcomm/com.android/com.asus services or remove just MobileManagerService from Doze? I'm thinking about the second one, I'm curious to see if ti makes any difference. I think the results from the first test were the best, and the MobileManagerService was out of Doze as far as I remember. Might as well try and see what happens.
It's a bit hard to drain the battery these days, so updates might not be fast. Patience is key!

Yeahh final test!! Looking forward to the result

Updated to 8.1, having issues

I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.

Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.

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Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.
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I've installed the latest beta Google Play Services, and battery drain has improved somewhat, still testing though.

Nandiman said:
I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.
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the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat

moreogthanu said:
the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat
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After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.

Nandiman said:
After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.
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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar

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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar
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Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.

Nandiman said:
Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.
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Draw over other apps stays on so does modify system settings

How To Make Your Battery Life Better, And Why Does Your Battery Life Suck?

Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.

Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?

zax880 said:
Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?
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No problem I actually have a guide i followed both explaining what you can and what you must NOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/nokia-2-apps-safe-to-delete-t3783158
it is for nokia 2 it says but its so to say the same for nokia 7 plus. Have a look, and let me know if issues!

I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings

Emad tober said:
I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings
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nexus723 said:
Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.
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Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.

trveller72 said:
Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.
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And a screenshot for battery saver

Thanks i actually thought that the Android One meant a debloated system. So i never even cared about checking the system apps. Well now my phone is debloated! Almost as many ****ty apps that Samsung has.
It runs much smoother in the UI too.
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Whats that unaccounted apps are, telewell apps?

And it tooks more than screen on does...

nexus723 said:
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in.
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I'm using Maki

Guide to help you
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!

SoT after my tricks?

Strmy said:
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!
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what do you mean by Battery aid?

Strmy said:
Deleting facebook app
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You should always remove facebook and messenger app and use facebook lite and messenger lite instead

what's the best solution for now to increase sot?

I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.

christ59520 said:
I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties
my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.
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You need to clear cache from Google Play services or perhaps wait for a new update from Google. I had the same issue , however clearing the cache helped me restore battery to a respectable level.

Battery life is awesome for me. It lasts 9 hours in 81% (from 98% to 17%) screen on time, wi-fi always on, without gaming, location disabled (it takes a lot of battery)

After updating to March security patch (Android Pie), battery life returns to great! Adaptive battery can now be permanently turned off and I'm getting average 3 days of normal use on a single charge.