Updated to 8.1, having issues - LG Q6 Questions & Answers

I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.

Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.

aaronrey10 said:
Revert back to 7.1. I'm having issues with the update even if I factory reset to 8.1 still issues.
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I've installed the latest beta Google Play Services, and battery drain has improved somewhat, still testing though.

Nandiman said:
I just got the 8.1 Oreo update for my LG Q6 (LG-M700 model) and I am having so troubling issues. My biggest problem is battery usage. Google Play Services is by far highest battery user and I have noticed that when I restart the phone, the app is not excluded from the Power Saving Exclusions list, but after a short while, it switches to "Excluded" on its own and starts eating up the battery like crazy and it does not even show up in the list so I can turn the exclusion off. With Nougat I did not have these problems and battery life was ok.
Another issue is that the status bar icons and home buttons are very faded out, same with the on screen keyboard. I don't know if it's just a new look for Android or some hidden setting messing up.
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the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat

moreogthanu said:
the status bar and nav bar icons fading out is a new thing in 8.1 personally i like it but that's my opinion and battery life for me has been the same as nougat
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After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.

Nandiman said:
After some more testing, I found that with the new Google Play Services, battery drain in standby is great, superb even, but under actual use is still terrible (every time I glance at the battery, it just dropped another percent, and that's just by browsing with Chrome). Does anyone know the proper settings for Google Play Services regrading permissions and such? What can I turn off? What has to remain on? That kind of stuff.
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As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar

moreogthanu said:
As far as I know the only permissions that don't have to be on are maybe camera or calendar
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Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.

Nandiman said:
Well, in my case I have Calendar, Contacts, Phone, SMS and Storage permissions on, "Draw over other apps" is Yes, "Modify system settings" and "Pictrue-in-picture" is No.
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Draw over other apps stays on so does modify system settings

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Facebook background battery drain on EMUI 5

Hey all,
I have an L04 running B360 Nougat with EMUI 5. I updated using Charles method. I noticed the Facebook drain issue pretty much right away after upgrading. So I did a factory reset afterwards, which helped at first. But later in the day, the app started draining again...
With the Facebook app installed, I notice ridiculous background CPU usage on Facebook, using about 20% of battery with over 1 hour of background CPU usage in one day. I tried blacklisting Facebook so it gets closed in the background after screen is locked, but I notice the process just starts itself again without me even opening the app....
I have notifications off on Facebook and a bunch of other things, but it still drained like crazy. My OP3 does not have this issue despite running also on Nougat. I have no idea why it drains so much, when it should be doing absolutely nothing in the background. Seems to keep the phone awake too.
Has anyone else had this issue? Currently the app is uninstalled so that I can get decent battery life.
I noticed increased battery drain in general with Nougat/B360, not sure exactly why. I recommend installing "Swipe for Facebook" in the meantime, as it isn't as battery intensive and is a great replacement for the normal FB app.
The Facebook app had a bug that had an issue with battery drain. Did you installed the latest version?
Try to download the latest Facebook and Messanger app from apkmirror and try again.
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I am going to check out swype in the meantime.
Potato997 said:
The Facebook app had a bug that had an issue with battery drain. Did you installed the latest version?
Try to download the latest Facebook and Messanger app from apkmirror and try again.
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Yes they are the newest version that's on Google play store. Messenger itself seems fine, it's Facebook itself that's killing me...
aeozyalcin said:
Thanks for the quick reply guys. I am going to check out swype in the meantime.
Yes they are the newest version that's on Google play store. Messenger itself seems fine, it's Facebook itself that's killing me...
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I also recommend FB Messenger Lite if you don't really need the calling features of the regular Messenger app; I'm not a fan of all the Snapchat-like features that they've been adding to the main application lately.
I confirm that the Facebook app, no matter what version you have, is a huge battery drainer. It doesn't respect the EMUI settings or anything. It drained the phone over night even on flight mode.
After uninstalling it, the battery performance on EMUI 5 is very good.
If you're on L09C432 please refer to this thread to get the system fix released by Honor/Huawei
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If you're on L09C432 please refer to this thread to get the system fix released by Honor/Huawei
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Yeah I saw that on the forum yesterday. But I'm thinking I can't put that update on my L04. Swipe for Facebook seems to be pretty awesome, I have been using that. I also installed the regular Facebook app again to try once more, and it has already consumed 3 times the energy Swipe has consumed, and I used Swipe mostly..
aeozyalcin said:
Seems to keep the phone awake too.
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If you go the application info and click on battery, you can find an option to disable the system wakeup (refer to the screenshot).
Overall, I did notice that the battery life decreased after the nougat update. I personally have problems with Instagram, I constantly have the power-intensive prompt notification, and just like you said, the lockscreen-app-kill doesn't work like it's suppposed to.
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If you go the application info and click on battery, you can find an option to disable the system wakeup (refer to the screenshot).
Overall, I did notice that the battery life decreased after the nougat update. I personally have problems with Instagram, I constantly have the power-intensive prompt notification, and just like you said, the lockscreen-app-kill doesn't work like it's suppposed to.
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Huh, interesting... I only have close after screen lock and power intensive prompt as the two options on that screen.... No option for system awake. Are you on L04 on EMUI5?
aeozyalcin said:
Huh, interesting... I only have close after screen lock and power intensive prompt as the two options on that screen.... No option for system awake. Are you on L04 on EMUI5?
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Yes, I have L04 on Nougat/EMUI5.
This option is not available for all apps, but I'm sure I've had it for Facebook with EMUI4.1
aeozyalcin said:
Hey all,
I have an L04 running B360 Nougat with EMUI 5. I updated using Charles method. I noticed the Facebook drain issue pretty much right away after upgrading. So I did a factory reset afterwards, which helped at first. But later in the day, the app started draining again...
With the Facebook app installed, I notice ridiculous background CPU usage on Facebook, using about 20% of battery with over 1 hour of background CPU usage in one day. I tried blacklisting Facebook so it gets closed in the background after screen is locked, but I notice the process just starts itself again without me even opening the app....
I have notifications off on Facebook and a bunch of other things, but it still drained like crazy. My OP3 does not have this issue despite running also on Nougat. I have no idea why it drains so much, when it should be doing absolutely nothing in the background. Seems to keep the phone awake too.
Has anyone else had this issue? Currently the app is uninstalled so that I can get decent battery life.
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Its not problem of new emui 5 , Mine is running old version emui 4.1 and still drain battery for better battery performance use facebook via google might be way better then apps through playstore.
I use Facebook Lite and Messenger Lite, you can grab either from APKMirror.
So system wakeup toggle now magically shows up for Facebook. I switched it off, and it has been good on power now. However the funny thing is, when I go to "Apps that use power in background" screen, Facebook is listed there as an application that frequently wakes up the device. It's bizarre.
I'm monitoring power consumption of Facebook closely to see how it behaves.
Facebook is one of the apps that the company behind it has the mentality of "I'm going to run on the background of your phone no matter what". It's absurd. Three apps on my phone, Facebook, Messenger and Instagram (but surprisingly not WhatsApp) wake up at the same time. If one of them is allowed to wake up, wakes up the rest - it's insane. I've tried everything possible on a non-rooted, non-xposed phone. It just starts on the background, and you can see on Greenify wakeup tracker that the trio (fb, messenger, instagram) starts exactly at the same time.
Of course, this is not the first time they are being user-hostile: https://www.macstories.net/linked/the-background-data-and-battery-usage-of-facebooks-ios-app/
The only thing I found that kind-of mitigates the problem is using AppOps by Quixingchen ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=rikka.appops ) which, in EMUI 5, allows to remove the permission to run in the background from certain apps. It doesn't require root, but requires to do some tricks with adb and usb debugging. Removing it on the trio of appls forces them to use the GCM push method, which is much battery friendly but may delay some notifications - that is ok for me.
I hope this post helps people with battery drain issues - me personally don't have any issues with EMUI 4.1/5 and facebook, but I was already aggressively trying to make fb stop running in the background, so I don't know what would happen if I didn't.

[GUIDE] Improve Battery life and performance (no root)

MFirst of all i want to apologyze for my bad English.
After the nougat update i start getting a really bad battery life and have to charge the phone 3 times a day. I start digging in the problem and do test in search for a better battery. I managed to improve my 3hous SoT to get between 4.30 to 6 hours SoT.
The tweaks in this guide are not magical, there are just tips that help me improve a lot my battery life. There is no need to unlock bootloader or to root the phone. The idea is to make a good balance between functionality and battery life. Everyone can choose what thinks they want to sacrifice for battery life and what they want to keep. All the steps that are listed here are reversible and can't harm your device in any way. It is pointed to people that do not know a lot of this subject.
My advice is to full apply all the steps and after getting a good battery life start to enabling the features that you want to have on the phone one by one and test battery.
At the end of this guide there is a section with improvements wich aim is to make the moto x style look like more like the news motorola Phones.
Simple Tips for Battery life:
-After a major OS upgrade it is important to do a full factory reset, full wipe. When logging with your google acount start the device as a new device. Do not restore apps!
-Try to not use the Turbocharger. Based on my own experience, a good 1-2 Amp charger get a lot more juyce that the turbo charger. It may sound weird to you but i tested this a lot of times and really see and important difference. I only use the turbocharge when i am in a hurry.
-Do a full calibration of your battery. Let the battery get to 0%. Turn the phone off and let it charge to 100% and left it plugged a little bit more. After that unplugg the phone, restart it and see if the % is still 100%. If not plugg the phone again after a 100% charge and repeat the process until you get a full 100% charge or near that number.
-A good advice if to left the phone charging in the nigth, or when you think it is a good moment. After get to 100% of the charge, unplugg the phone, restart it and plug it again. For my the battery is not getting a good reading after Nougat update. After a restart i always "lost" like 8% of charge. I do this every time i charge the phone.
-The NOUGAT room is draining battery very very fast when there is bad celular signal. So if you are not having a good celular signal it is a good advice to put the phone in airplane mode until you change your location. Also, there is drain with bad wi-fi signal so try to avoid that too. It is not strong like the celular drain but can influence in your final results.
-Turn off location when you are not using it. If you have to use it try to use the "battery saver mode" and put high accuaricy when you are going to use the GPS for a precise fix or navigation. Google Play Services have and excess use of wackelocks due to location, they are listed ass NLPcollectorwackelock and NLPwackelock.
-If you are on Wifi turn off data and if you are in data turn off Wifi. If you can use both try to use Wifi with a good wifi signal. It uses a little bit less battery that 4G for me.
-Unninstall apps that you are not using or going to use in a short-mid time. They may be running in the background and eating
juice.
-Turn off automatic brigthness. Put your brigth to the minimun you are happy with. I used mine almost in the minimun and i see the screen perfect. Also remember that the power scale is non linear. Putting the wheel in the half of the brigthness bar is not getting you "half the brigthness of the screen".
Download autobrigth switch https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abrody.brightness&hl=es_419 .This make you turn autobrigthness on with a click. This is very usefull if you are outside, let you see the screen with 100% and then let turn it off when you are inside. It is a easy way to manage brigthness.
IMPORTANT:When you are not using your device it must go to sleep mode. It is a mode where the CPU is almost turned off and it doens't drain much battery. Later in this guide i will explain how to properly install a Battery monitor program. It is very important to watch if the device is sleeping ok and there aren't apps with bad behaviours keeping the device awake and draining your battery. This can be seem in GSAM Battery monitor watching the held awake tab. If an app is keeping your device awake you have to uninstall or contact the developer and tell him about your problem with his app.
Tunning the system to Optimize the Battery and Performance:
For this part you will need to have installed ADB drivers, you can download and install from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588979
You have to activated debug mode on the phone:
Go to settings, about phone, tap 7 times the Compilation Number until you see a message saying that you are a developper. Now go to settingss, developer and activated USB DEBUG mode. To see what apps are running in the background on your phone go to settings, developer, in execution.
Also you will need to install 4 more free apps, later they can be uninstalled if you want:
App inspector to know the name of certain package:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bg.projectoria.appinspector
App Ops to manage special permissions of apps:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.findsdk.apppermission&hl=es
Shizuku Manager is needed to give the permissions necesary to App Ops:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=moe.shizuku.privileged.api
Gsam battery Monitor for monitoring apps usage:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=es
The aim of this part of the guide is to disable all the features and apps that may be drainning your battery.
All of this can be reverted one by one after getting a good battery and testing the results and the impact on battery life:
-Turn off location, bluetooth, NFC.
-Go to moto app and turn off Moto Voice, Moto screen, Wave to wake. I keep the flaslight and the cam gesture on but you can dissable them if you want.
-Go to settingss, Motorola privacy and turn off enhancet device support and help us with bla bla.
-Go to settings, security, back up and turn off data back up.
-Go to settings, location, turn of Google location History and share location of google. In the Rigth upper corner tap on the 3 dots and turn of bluetooth scanning and wifi scanning.
-Go to settings, google, search, and turn off all the features like feed, nearby, voice detection, notifications, doodles, google fit, firebase App Indexing.
-Go to settings, google, security, dissable google play protect,etc. (If you consider this ass important do not disable it)
-Go to settings, apps, tap the 3 dots in the upper rigth corner and tap on show system apps. Disable Motorola device manager and Motorola notifications. Also delete the apps data.
-Go to accounts and turn off syncronizations of all the things you really don't need. For instance in google account i left on contacts, Chrome and Contacts info only.
-If you are using chrome go to settingss, site configuration. Turn off location, notifications, sync in the background. In the sync settings just let the chrome sync only what you need.
-Disable all google and motorola apps that you are not using. For instance Google Duo, hangouts, play music, play books, play games, carrier services, Motorola connect, talkback, devices help, etc.
-Search for apps that ask for permission you think they don't need it. Speacially location.
-Turn off special permission that you think apps don't need. The special permission can be managed going to settings, apps, tap the wheel, advance-special acces:Look to "change system settings" and "get over other aplications". Also turn off acces to data usage for Google Play and Google Play services.
-Go to settingss, security, trusted agents, disable smartlock.
-If you have apps like greenify installed, uninstall them.
-If you have home widgets be sure that they are not using your location and also if it posible put the refresh time to the minimum.
-I don't use GBOARD, it was not working ok for me and also draining battery. So i search in the internet and donwload the latest google keyboard version before GBOARD, it works perfect. I do not recommend GBOARD as it is not working ok and it is not propperly optimized.
Using ADB for Background process:
The next step consist of disabling System process and apps that you no not need to run in the background, for example MotoCare:
Motocare is a system process that runs in the background and collects info of your device use even if you turn off motorola privacy features. That not makes much sense but it is there and can't be disable in a easy way.
After installing ADB, drivers and turning on USB DEBUG MODE, plug the phone, go to the search bar in windows and search for CMD. Open it.
Write:
abd devices
Is everything is ok you will see a device in the list that is your Moto x Style. If not figure out what is the problem, make sure DEBUG MODE is on and that you give the propper permission in the phone.
Then write:
adb -d shell pm grant com.gsamlabs.bbm android.permission.BATTERY_STATS
This will let you see full wakelock list in GSAM Battery Monitor app. This is very important to know if there is an app keeping your device awake.
next:
abd shell
cmd appops set "com.motorola.motocare" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
cmd appops set "com.motorola.motocare.internal" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
This last two lines will stop motocare. After this go to apps, with "show system apps" on search motocare and motocareint and delete all the data. After that check that motocare is not running in the background.
cmd appops set "com.motorola.ccc.ota" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
cmd appops set "com.motorola.ccc.checkin" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
This will turn off OTA services. If you want to take an OTA after this, (if motorola ever send another OTA for our device) you can just go to settingss, about phone and check for update manually. (After enabling Motorola device Manager and Motorola Notification). Anyway is there is a new OTA you probably are going to know it from XDA forums.
You can use the same command to disable apps that you don't need to run in the background but you want to use.
To use this commands just open app inspector, search the app you want. Copy the package name and use the command with that package. Anyway in the next step i will show you a easy way to do the same with other apps that are not from the system.
If you want to re enable and app to run in the background just reinstall it or write the same sentence changing "ignore" for "allow":
For example with Facebook. If you search it in app ops the package name is com.facebook.katana . The name of the package is "katana" because it is like smashing your battery with a Katana lol.
adb shell
cmd appops set "com.facebook.katana" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND ignore
to enable it:
cmd appops set "com.facebook.katana" RUN_IN_BACKGROUND allow
My advice is to not use this command with google services or with system apps you don't know what they do in your phone. It may get you in a problem.
Now we are going to see another way to stop apps for running in the background. This is usefull with apps that you want to keep and don't want to run in the background.
For example in my case, i use facebook app but don't want it to run in the background. Also i disable all navitagion apps to run in the background, Here we go and google maps in my case. They both work perfect when I open they, don't need them running in the background. I let apps like WhatsApp, Instagram, Tinder, Facebook Messenger to run in the background because i want to know when someone send a message and don't want to wait until i open the app. If you don't need the notifications my advice is to don't let run in the background. That will get you a considerable amount of battery. Whatsapp have a lot of battery drain. For some reasons it has the acelerometer turn on a ridiculous amount of time and it triggers google play services wackelock PackageMeasuremntservice.
Connect the phone via usb and launch terminal as we did before, search bar and search button, type CMD and open it. Open Shizuku Manager
Wrote in the terminal:
adb shell sh /sdcard/Android/data/moe.shizuku.privileged.api/files/start.sh
if you do it rigth you will see that the server starts running. Now unplugg your phone, close shizuku manager and open App Ops. If you turn off your phone you will have to repeat the process in order to get app ops running again.
Search for apps that you don't want to run in the background. In the permission settings there is "run in the background", you can turn it off or on from there. It has exact the same effect that doing it in the ADB terminal ass we did it in the previous step. But motocare can't be disabled from the app.
Also you can manage all the permission from the apps one by one in a lot better detailed way than from the stock app settings..
There is also a trick with google play services and location. I am getting a big wake up with NLPcollector and variants. If you turn off the network location permission in google play services it will stop the wakelock even if you have your location ON. That make google play services almost drainless. The problem is that some apps may not get a correct location in "battery saving mode" because they use google play services. This is fixed turning on high presition mode or device only mode and letting the GPS do the location work only when you need it.
Finally you can tweak all your apps permissions and see the battery results. The two most important permission related to battery life are the location and the background one. Try to disable location for everything you don't need to be tracking you.
Tunning your Moto X Style:
To get the new Camera app from motorola:
Go to apps, search for stock camera app and disable it. Delete all the app data. Go to settings, security and turn on "Unkown Sources".After that donwload the moded camera app from this tread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/themes-apps/moto-camera-6-0-43-10-modded-apk-t3459690
Restart your phonr and Install it! Now you have the new camera app . It work almost perfect, the only things that are not working for me are: Twist to change to selfie mode, shutter time in pro mode and white balance in pro mode. Don't forget to thanks the developer for this great app. Also turn off Unkonw Sources after the installation.
To get the Moto Z command Widget:
Donwload and install this app:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/themes-apps/moto-z-command-center-widget-t3417171
Don't forget to turn location of the widget off, you can put your location manually and save battery.
Launcher 3:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-z-play/themes/moto-z2-play-launcher-google-root-t3623608
It is the new Motorola Stock Launcher. You can try the Moto G5 Launcher too, it is in XDA.
Unlock Method:
The phone doesn't have fingerprint scanner but a good alternative is to use face unlock. LG and Samsung do a lot of marketing of something that is build in on android stock and work almost perfect. Go to security, turn smartlock on.Then go to smartlock and turn on face detection. It works like a charm, is almost instantaneous. My advice is to do this after getting a good battery life as smartlock features can affect battery. Make sure you don't have on trusted places on Smartlock as it drains your battery. Also if you have location ON it may drain your battery even if you don't have trusted place on, so take care. The trusted face feature on its own drains a negligible % of battery.
As i stated in the beggining:
If you want the best battery life you always have to do a compromise between it and features of the phone. For example i love moto display and the wave to wake feature but it takes so much juice of my phone.
My advice is to do all the steps, make sure you are getting a good battery life and after that start reenabling one by one the features you need and watching the impact of them in your battery life. Also i know that some of the stuff i mention may have a negligible impact in battery for themselves but when you put all together they do make a difference. My phone is draining almost 0% on stand by mode with doze. I let it with a %, go to sleep and when i wake up i have the same %.
At this moment i am testing battery on my phone and seeying wich features do make a big diference in battery life.
For instance i am using smartlock, face unlock with location off and in security settings i have android device manager enabled. They seems to not affect the battery performance so much. I will continue testing features to see wich ones are the main offenders.
Any suggestion or any question is welcome! Also if this helps you please let me know and post your battery life before and after.
Great guide, although might a bit extreme for some people to do all of these things.
I can tell you the biggest increase in battery life i have seen is to disable the Moto Display and Moto Gesture to wave over the display... My idle usage has stopped in half and maintains around 2% with it all off.
acejavelin said:
Great guide, although might a bit extreme for some people to do all of these things.
I can tell you the biggest increase in battery life i have seen is to disable the Moto Display and Moto Gesture to wave over the display... My idle usage has stopped in half and maintains around 2% with it all off.
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Yes, i know that for some people it may be too much, but the guide is divided in parts so anyone can take what they seem comfortable with.
I agree with you, wave to wake and moto display are the main offenders and i feel that with nougat the battery drain of this features get agravated a lot more. It is a shame because i really like that features but they drain your battery even with the screen on..
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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2be3_80 said:
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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If your SOT increased on Nougat, it is because the OS is more efficient elsewhere... hardware power draw cannot be changed with software.
Why not use the gestures? Like anything else, they are unnecessary for normal operation and consume extra battery, waiting for detect you waving your hand over the display takes some power, not a lot, but over 10-12 hours it is noticeable... Why buy a phone with gestures if your just going to turn them off? Because the pluses outweigh the negative and there is no perfect device.
Moto probably doesn't implement DT2W because the screen technology they use would require the screen (digitizer actually) to be powered all the time, increasing idle battery draw from 2-5% per hour. It is implemented in some 3rd party kernels and ROMs, but few people use it because over 12 hours of sleeping time, it consumes 25%-50% of your battery capacity. :/
I'm not going to get into the other stuff, things like disabling Google Play services and location services and stuff like that, just take away too much functionality for my taste for what you gain. In general when not traveling, I need 3 hours of SOT in a day and this device generally makes that. When traveling (which I did on very regular basis for years until this week) I was under 50% before 9am and near dead by noon if I didn't charge or connect to battery pack. So in general these optimization are not enough to do what I need, so I just skip them.
2be3_80 said:
Great guide, thanks
With the Nougat update my sot is way better up to 4 h, while on mm it was around 3.5h.
I just wonder why buy a phone with features like wave hand, etc. and not using them?
That's a pity that Moto doesn't have d2w like lg phones, it's very handy.
I don't like to look for button to press it every time.
I know that's everybody's choice. Just my 2 cents.
Does turning off all location stuff that you mentioned affects any usability, notifications, etc?
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For my after nougat update the battery life go to Hell. I was getting 3hs lf SoT wich is unaceptable for me.
I understand your point and i really like wave to wake. It is nice. For my is nicer to have 5hs or more of SoT. In nougat my wave to wake eats battery like crazy and i really don't need it much. Answering your question, disabling motocare only disable motorola remote support. All the other moto stuff doesn't affect the phone, only disable the OTAs. There is nothing in the guide that compromise basic functionality of the phone, maybe only disabling location permission on google play services with app ops can affect location on some apps. As i stated in the end, everyone have to chose between functionalitis and battery life.
After i managed to get 6hs SoT i start to enabling things and test how was my battery life. I will stop in the 5 hours SoT limit.
At this moment i reenable: moto voice, location in saving mode, smart lock with face unlock, android administrator to lock the device remotely and i am getting between 5hs to 5:20hs SoT. Next step is to try with moto display.
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For my after nougat update the battery life go to Hell. I was getting 3hs lf SoT wich is unaceptable for me.
I understand your point and i really like wave to wake. It is nice. For my is nicer to have 5hs or more of SoT. In nougat my wave to wake eats battery like crazy and i really don't need it much. Answering your question, disabling motocare only disable motorola remote support. All the other moto stuff doesn't affect the phone, only disable the OTAs. There is nothing in the guide that compromise basic functionality of the phone, maybe only disabling location permission on google play services with app ops can affect location on some apps. As i stated in the end, everyone have to chose between functionalitis and battery life.
After i managed to get 6hs SoT i start to enabling things and test how was my battery life. I will stop in the 5 hours SoT limit.
At this moment i reenable: moto voice, location in saving mode, smart lock with face unlock, android administrator to lock the device remotely and i am getting between 5hs to 5:20hs SoT. Next step is to try with moto display.
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I have run ADB commands and after each and everyone I had no confirmation dialogue nor anything.
I have rebooted device and how can I check if I had done everything right?
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I have run ADB commands and after each and everyone I had no confirmation dialogue nor anything.
I have rebooted device and how can I check if I had done everything right?
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If you have done everything rigth you wont see the apps running unless you open they. To see process in execution you have to go to seetings, about device, tap 7 times build number until you get the message that you are a developer.
Go to seeting again, you will see developer option. In there you search for in execution. If you do everything rigth you wont see motocare or moto things runnings. Same with the apps like facebook, etc. They only appear in execution when you open they or have they in recent apps.
Let me know if your battery get improved.
This if from last test:
Enabled moto display, moto voice, face unlock, location in battery saving mode. Disabling background things really help with battety life.
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This if from last test:
Enabled moto display, moto voice, face unlock, location in battery saving mode. Disabling background things really help with battety life.
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That's really good achievement.
I can't get close to your results.
I have disabled moto apps running in background, location off, Moto display on, wave hand on.
I only use WiFi/network when needed.
Hmm what could be the culprit?
On this charge I think I will get about 4h sot.
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That's really good achievement.
I can't get close to your results.
I have disabled moto apps running in background, location off, Moto display on, wave hand on.
I only use WiFi/network when needed.
Hmm what could be the culprit?
On this charge I think I will get about 4h sot.
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Yes, i think the average for those conditions is 5 hs (mine conditions)
Are you using turbocharger? How old is your phone? Maybe the battery is getting bad? Did you disable apps like facebook running in the background? Installed Gsam Battery monitor amd check there isn't an app eating your juice or keeping your device awake? Do you have good signal? My best advice is to do all the steps of the guide and see how much of battery life are you getting in that condition. Them start reenabling things like moto voice, moto display and finaly wave to wake. Did your battery got improved dissabling moto stuff?
Wave to wake for my on Nougat was a battery hog. Maybe try to disable it and see how much your battery improves!
My phone is from February 2017, never used turbocharger (I believe it's killing battery over time). Not using Facebook.
When updated to Nougat I did factory reset and disabled various Google apps that I don't use, like Duo, Google+, etc.
My sot was around 4 h with Moto display and wave hand gesture. After disabling Moto stuff from your guide though ADB I haven't noticed any improvements. I will observe few more days. I don't have any Moto update processes running in background.
I use Gboard and like it very much, so it's a keeper for me.
Thanks
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My phone is from February 2017, never used turbocharger (I believe it's killing battery over time). Not using Facebook.
When updated to Nougat I did factory reset and disabled various Google apps that I don't use, like Duo, Google+, etc.
My sot was around 4 h with Moto display and wave hand gesture. After disabling Moto stuff from your guide though ADB I haven't noticed any improvements. I will observe few more days. I don't have any Moto update processes running in background.
I use Gboard and like it very much, so it's a keeper for me.
Thanks
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Try one or two days without wave to wake and see how much battery you can get. I don't think Gboard should be a deal breaker in battery life in comparison with google keyboard, i don't think it is the problem. Maybe there is an app keepping your device awake? Your phone is almost new so i doubt from battery problems. Can you post a screenshot of battery usage and signal, awake time, etc, from your android battery usage?
This is from today with mid usage and time with low signal:
Today I did factory reset and will observe how it goes without tweaks but with most apps shipped with phone disabled that I don't use
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Today I did factory reset and will observe how it goes without tweaks but with most apps shipped with phone disabled that I don't use
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If you allready did a factory reset i don't think it will give much battery in same conditions and take into account that android take some cycles to calibrate the system and the apps, so battery duration should getting extended during the first week until it reach a plateau.
Just an FYI... Up until a week or so ago, I was averaging 2h 45m to 3h screen on time in an average day and since I started using my phone for work (BYOD program, always had a separate work device before) the battery life started really mattering so I made the following changes...
- Dropped Facebook and Messenger (MASSIVE battery hog apps, always at the top of the list) and moved to Facebook Lite (yes, you can get it in the US, just have to use APKMirror, and it includes Messenger services in the same app)
- Dropped Accuweather (was keeping device awake and accessing location dozens to hundreds of times per hour) and switched to 1Weather
- Dropped Microsoft Outlook (keeping device awake and using background data, and a Device Administrator I didn't want) and switched to Nine
- Dropped OpenSignal (was using background data and waking device very frequently)
- Disabled Moto Display entirely
- Disabled Moto Action Wave to Wake
These 6 things are all I have done... I keep all services active, high accuracy location, all accounts and services syncing, no background data restrictions, no disabled apps, backup and other services like Motorola services all running, no adjustments in permissions, using Gboard as my default keyboard, and I have ~120 apps installed, 80% of which are occasional use only. I use a Quick Charger about 50% of the time for boost charging at work or when traveling, but overnights it is on a standard (5v/1.8A) charger and not QC. I have seen my Doze and Deep Sleep times increase significantly, with Deep Sleep time approaching to 75%... And Screen On Time over a normal day increasing by nearly an hour on average... In fact, yesterday I had my best SoT in over a year with 4h 28m over a 16 hour day in mixed use, including a 6 hour YuGiOh tournament where I used the phone to keep score of my matches (with marginal LTE service and no WiFi), going out to eat 20 minutes away, and then back home for some video game time with friends and still have 20% battery remaining when it went back on the charger, probably could have gotten 5.5 hours if I pushed it near zero. Making it sufficient for daily use for me again.
Am I saying this is the answer for everyone? No, but install a good battery monitoring tool like GSAM Battery Monitor and see what is using your battery (make sure to enable advanced reporting, requires ADB connection)... and don't just look at the default screens, dig into the app after some use. The "View % Power Used" screen only tells part of the story... Make sure to look at View Number Times Waking Device, View GPS Time Used, and View Time Held Awake because some things are not always so obvious. Accuweather for one was "hiding" some of it's usage in Android System and Google services in the View % Power Screen, but when you looked in View Time Held Awake and View GPS Time Used, it became evident it was doing something.
Some other apps which can be culprits are shopping apps, they often track where you are frequently... such as Walmart, Sam's Club, Best Buy, CVS, and most other dedicated apps for shopping. Alternative messaging apps like Messenger, Whatsapp, Kik, Skype, Viber, SnapChat (currently the #1 battery killer out there according to several sources), etc. often keep the device awake and use background data. Airline and other travel apps often check your location every minute or even more frequently even when not open. "Optimizer" apps like LionMobi Power Battery, CleanMaster, and similar tools are worthless and usually consume more resources than they help with. News apps like BBC News often use background data and keep the device awake... Some of these apps might be worth it's battery consumption for your usage, maybe not, the point is to know the problem and decide if it's needs to be fixed or not.
All I am saying here is that before you blame the device or hardware, make sure it isn't your software or usage that is the real culprit, but sometimes it does take some digging.
The last update to the clock app is buggy for me. It is using massive CPU and kepping my device awake for hours. It is important to check if it is working ok.
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The last update to the clock app is buggy for me. It is using massive CPU and kepping my device awake for hours. It is important to check if it is working ok.
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I would try clearing the clock cache / data
On Gsam the clock doesn't even show up on my CPU usage.
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I would try clearing the clock cache / data
On Gsam the clock doesn't even show up on my CPU usage.
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Allready did that but it didn't fix it. The problem was sporadiclly. Finally uninnstaled the update, cleared all the data and updated again, no sign of the problem for now! Thanks!
Facebook lite and messenger lite if you use those services help a ton all by themselves. Shopping apps I disallow them using background data and location. It's doesn't take that long to grab location once open. Saves a great deal of data and battery.. Amazon apps turn off background data takes care of most battery drain issues related to them.

[Fixed] Battery issues with 5.1.9

I've got the OP6 since release and haven't had any battery issues until i upgraded to 5.1.9. prior to 5.1.9 I used to get a 1-3% drop overnight. Post 5.1.9 I get about 1-2% per hour of stand-by. The drain is not so high like I have a misbehaving app, my phone sleeps ok with the occasional wake-ups to get notifications. I was just very happy with the SOT and stand-by times i was getting before i upgraded to 5.1.9 and just trying to get back to it.
Also it seems like i'm getting a little bit higher drain from google play services that before, it always shows up third on my battery stats list and before the update it used to be beyond the 8-10th place.
-Already cleared cache from recovery before this battery cycle (Beginning of previous cycle).
-Already cleared google play services Data before the start of this cycle (Beginning of previous cycle).
-Already cleared google app Data before the start of this cycle (Beginning of previous cycle).
-Already cleared app cache before the start of this cycle (Beginning of previous cycle).
-Scanning off, GPS battery saving, overnight data was on 4G not Wifi, advanced (aggressive) optimization on, all apps are being battery optimized.
I've read most related threads and haven't found anything that helped, What should I do?
Also I read on a thread that turning off Android system background process helps, is it safe to do that?
Update:
So I think I found a fix somehow.
-Clear data for all Google play stuff (service, store, games, Google app). Then restart.
- reset network settings.
- Also I traveled to another country and not using dual SIM as I was and only on one SIM now with LTE.
- stopped using maildroid and used Gmail for work email. It's the app I suspected to mess with my standby drain.
- Also I have found an anomaly with Google photos. There are three settings to back-up Google photos and all three do not talk to each other:
1- Within the app itself. Google photos> settings> backup & sync
2- Phone options> Google> Google photos backup
This one doesn't appear all the time, sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not! Haven't figured out why it sometimes show and sometimes not though, but last time it showed I made sure it's off)
3- Accounts> Google > Google photos backup
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All the above three options don't talk to each other at all. so if you have it turned off within the app and the Google settings menu it can still be on within the accounts menu.
I think that causes sync issues which leads to battery drain specially in standby.
My current setup that do not drain battery is as follows:
1- Google photos> settings> backup & sync (ON)
2- Phone options> Google> Google photos backup (OFF)
3- Accounts> Google > Google photos backup (OFF)
I get my photos synced on wifi without issues and no extra battery drain.
When I found out thy don't talk to each other and turned them all on (specially the one in the Google settings menu) I started getting extra battery drain and Google play services showed up persistently in my top three battery usage items. Screenshots in comments.
Standby drain is now back at 2-3% overnight.
Heres some of the things I do to maximize battery,
Every one is different though,but these work for me
Use dark theme always
Don't use aggressive doze
Don't optimize apps that you really need notifications from
Turn off Bluetooth,location
Use nova launcher with dark theme
Low to medium brightness,no auto brightness
Clear cache from cached data in storage regularly
Occasionally do deep clear from advanced
Don't use face unlock
Turn off unused gestures,
Just some tips,but I do get small battery drain at night anyway, I don't think you should worry about it
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Heres some of the things I do to maximize battery,
Every one is different though,but these work for me
Use dark theme always
Don't use aggressive doze
Don't optimize apps that you really need notifications from
Turn off Bluetooth,location
Use nova launcher with dark theme
Low to medium brightness,no auto brightness
Clear cache from cached data in storage regularly
Occasionally do deep clear from advanced
Don't use face unlock
Turn off unused gestures,
Just some tips,but I do get small battery drain at night anyway, I don't think you should worry about it
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Why should I not use aggressive doze?
walid.eldalil said:
Why should I not use aggressive doze?
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Just a recommendation I got before from users on OnePlus forums, the concensous generally there is to just use normal optimization.It does seem to drain less
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Just a recommendation I got before from users on OnePlus forums, the concensous generally there is to just use normal optimization.It does seem to drain less
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I've been using advanced optimization since I got the phone and was getting very good results up until my aforementioned problem. Will give it a shot.
settings/wifi/wifi preferences/advance
check for keepwifi on during sleep...put never
check network notification...switch off
i hope this works
Nothing to do man, bull**** to use more 'optimization' by turning wifi off, using theme and other things. I mean we should use the phone how we want right?
Just wait for a new update...
All OP6 users got standby draining. Annoying asf.
Just a note, clearing cache in recovery does nothing. This phone doesn't have a cache partition.
Try restoring network settings.
*Settings, backup and reset, network settings reset*
This helped me when I was on Samsung s7-e when I had some strange drains from an update.
I have no issues with my device on 5.1.9
whizeguy said:
Try restoring network settings.
*Settings, backup and reset, network settings reset*
This helped me when I was on Samsung s7-e when I had some strange drains from an update.
I have no issues with my device on 5.1.9
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iElvis said:
Just a note, clearing cache in recovery does nothing. This phone doesn't have a cache partition.
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Yeah I know but a OnePlus bug Hunter asked me to do it so it might do something else
DaKlimo said:
settings/wifi/wifi preferences/advance
check for keepwifi on during sleep...put never
check network notification...switch off
i hope this works
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Ghost123NL said:
Nothing to do man, bull**** to use more 'optimization' by turning wifi off, using theme and other things. I mean we should use the phone how we want right?
Just wait for a new update...
All OP6 users got standby draining. Annoying asf.
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You are right 100%..this is obviusly semi product..i fight with their support team, already change with them more than 30 mails, they just ask screen shoots for this ss for that...they should give money back, in my hand phone go crazy just like that loose overnight 36% with everiting off. Sometimes during day too. I have this problems since i get OP6, 4 weeks ago.
I was using the same settings since I bought OnePlus (OOS 5.1.3) and I had an amazing battery life on OOS 5.1.5, but since 5.1.8 also 5.1.9, battery life sux. It is a problem with the software. In their opinion I should turn off all the features, even take out the sim card, maybe I should turn off the phone to save battery...
DaKlimo said:
You are right 100%..this is obviusly semi product..i fight with their support team, already change with them more than 30 mails, they just ask screen shoots for this ss for that...they should give money back, in my hand phone go crazy just like that loose overnight 36% with everiting off. Sometimes during day too. I have this problems since i get OP6, 4 weeks ago.
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Feels bad man. The Chinese Oxygen version did fix the battery drain issue on 5.1.10. So we can expect it to.
Or you downgrade to before 5.1.8 and update when 5.1.10 is out.
Or you just wait. Don't do these 'battery optimization'. Not needed when the OS is the problem. And not your personal usage.
So I think I found a fix somehow.
-Clear data for all Google play stuff (service, store, games, Google app). Then restart.
- reset network settings.
- Also I traveled to another country and not using dual SIM as I was and only on one SIM now with LTE.
- stopped using maildroid and used Gmail for work email. It's the app I suspected to mess with my standby drain.
- also I noticed an anomaly with Google photos
Standby drain 3% overnight with 6-7 hours sot depending on usage. (Screenshot below).
now after I got good results Im using maildroid for this cycle to see if it had any effect or not.
Also I have found an anomaly with Google photos. There are three settings to back-up Google photos and all three do not talk to each other:
1- Within the app itself. Google photos> settings> backup & sync
2- Phone options> Google> Google photos backup
This one doesn't appear all the time, sometimes it's there and sometimes it's not! Haven't figured out why it sometimes show and sometimes not though, but last time it showed I made sure it's off)
3- Accounts> Google > Google photos backup
(Screenshots below)
All the above three options don't talk to each other at all. so if you have it turned off within the app and the Google settings menu it can still be on within the accounts menu.
I think that causes sync issues which leads to battery drain specially in standby.
My current setup that do not drain battery is as follows:
1- Google photos> settings> backup & sync (ON)
2- Phone options> Google> Google photos backup (OFF)
3- Accounts> Google > Google photos backup (OFF)
I get my photos synced on wifi without issues and no extra battery drain.
When I found out thy don't talk to each other and turned them all on (specially the one in the Google settings menu) I started getting extra battery drain and Google play services showed up persistently in my top three battery usage items.
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OP updated.
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Weird thing is that I do not have the backup options under the phone settings under google or under account.
The only place it shows to backup photos is within the google photos app itself

How to get good battery life?

Hello everyone,
So I was wondering how to get good battery life?
I am on stock firmware latest update. No root.
Installed system wakelock detection but only whatsapp waking up like 5 times.
But, still draining a lot of percentage when the device is idle.
I used greenify to hibernate some apps.
Downgrading cpu is maybe an option.
I hope anyone has an idea!
Depends what you define as "good battery life." I find some people think they should be getting 12 hours SOT and 0% overnight drain because they read a post by someone who has their phone running with half the functions disabled and 5% screen brightness.
There are a couple of kernels that cap CPU performance if that's what you want. But you're probably better off figuring out what apps are using battery and optimize/remove them. Battery life is typically a userspace issue.
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Depends what you define as "good battery life." I find some people think they should be getting 12 hours SOT and 0% overnight drain because they read a post by someone who has their phone running with half the functions disabled and 5% screen brightness.
There are a couple of kernels that cap CPU performance if that's what you want. But you're probably better off figuring out what apps are using battery and optimize/remove them. Battery life is typically a userspace issue.
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Now I am getting 3 hours of SOT max.
I do have quite a lot apps (127 apps)
But I can't figure out which ones are taking battery.
Read one of the battery guides posted in the forums, they might help you out.
With root you can detect drain eazy with betterbatterystats, if you wish to go that road.
Disable functions you don't need currently. Some apps track you with gps even when you don't use them wich drains a lot of battery. Especially from Apps that don't need this to function normally this is very uncool. Take away the permissions Apps don't need if possible.
Also look up Settings/ Battery for your battery consumption
Why not search the forum bro? Someone made a special post on how to get the best battery life...... i know its hard to use the search function but please try
ItsCrewz said:
Hello everyone,
So I was wondering how to get good battery life?
I am on stock firmware latest update. No root.
Installed system wakelock detection but only whatsapp waking up like 5 times.
But, still draining a lot of percentage when the device is idle.
I used greenify to hibernate some apps.
Downgrading cpu is maybe an option.
I hope anyone has an idea!
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Stop using apps like Greenify and wakelock detector, they honestly do more harm than good with the newer versions of Android. OnePlus has this built in anyways, called battery optimization. Turn on advanced optimization and only allow apps you NEED to get real time notifications for, I get great battery life with that setup.
Lightbird said:
Disable functions you don't need currently. Some apps track you with gps even when you don't use them wich drains a lot of battery. Especially from Apps that don't need this to function normally this is very uncool. Take away the permissions Apps don't need if possible.
Also look up Settings/ Battery for your battery consumption
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Thanks ill try!
geoff5093 said:
Stop using apps like Greenify and wakelock detector, they honestly do more harm than good with the newer versions of Android. OnePlus has this built in anyways, called battery optimization. Turn on advanced optimization and only allow apps you NEED to get real time notifications for, I get great battery life with that setup.
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I have battery optimization turned on!
ItsCrewz said:
I have battery optimization turned on!
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The advanced one as well?
ItsCrewz said:
I have battery optimization turned on!
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I go to settings>accounts>google and turnoff all the syncing options. For calendar and contacts, when I add any, I go into there and just turn them on, let them sync and then turn them back off. Why just let them sync all day long with nothing to sync? Doesn't make sense to me. Also in Setting>Data Usage>Cellular Data Usage i tap each thing and disable background data for each individual app that I don't need doing anything. I leave apps like email, messaging apps (Textra, What'sApp web browser, Google Play Services, Solid Explorer, DropBox, Weather Android OS ) with background on so they work properly. So you know, things like Web Browsers and Solid Explorer you need their background data on so if you are downloading from the net or moving files with the file manager they will fail, so you have to leave those on. Likewise with Google Play Services, you can't download from the play store with background data disabled.
Also, you can turn off location permissions to all apps that don't need it. Go to settings>apps>App Permissions and you can select Location and it will list all apps that have the ability to request Location Permissions. Right now mine says 4 of 30 has location permissions. I have Samsung Internet, Google, Maps and Weather. I have all other apps location turned off. Here you can just go down the list instead have having to go into each app. I also Keep Location set to battery saving unless I need Maps and I just turn it to High Accuracy.
With this and keeping screen brightness on auto I get 9-11 hours SOT. Maybe a little less now since I just bought a gear S3 Frontier watch so my Bluetooth is always active now and communicating to the watch. Oh and a couple other things. I have work email set to push and personal email to sync every 3 hours and weather sync every 6 hours. These are things that are personal preferences and will cause battery life to vary. But setting up background data usage and Location permissions can go a long way for battery life.
Eric214 said:
I go to settings>accounts>google and turnoff all the syncing options. For calendar and contacts, when I add any, I go into there and just turn them on, let them sync and then turn them back off. Why just let them sync all day long with nothing to sync? Doesn't make sense to me. Also in Setting>Data Usage>Cellular Data Usage i tap each thing and disable background data for each individual app that I don't need doing anything. I leave apps like email, messaging apps (Textra, What'sApp web browser, Google Play Services, Solid Explorer, DropBox, Weather Android OS ) with background on so they work properly. So you know, things like Web Browsers and Solid Explorer you need their background data on so if you are downloading from the net or moving files with the file manager they will fail, so you have to leave those on. Likewise with Google Play Services, you can't download from the play store with background data disabled.
Also, you can turn off location permissions to all apps that don't need it. Go to settings>apps>App Permissions and you can select Location and it will list all apps that have the ability to request Location Permissions. Right now mine says 4 of 30 has location permissions. I have Samsung Internet, Google, Maps and Weather. I have all other apps location turned off. Here you can just go down the list instead have having to go into each app. I also Keep Location set to battery saving unless I need Maps and I just turn it to High Accuracy.
With this and keeping screen brightness on auto I get 9-11 hours SOT. Maybe a little less now since I just bought a gear S3 Frontier watch so my Bluetooth is always active now and communicating to the watch. Oh and a couple other things. I have work email set to push and personal email to sync every 3 hours and weather sync every 6 hours. These are things that are personal preferences and will cause battery life to vary. But setting up background data usage and Location permissions can go a long way for battery life.
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How do you do to setting up the email to sync every 3 hours? For example with Gmail or outlook
cellular signal booster is the best solution to significantly reduce battery drawing.
AOSP with fully manual control of each and everyone app and service on your phone.
mf117 said:
How do you do to setting up the email to sync every 3 hours? For example with Gmail or outlook
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I use blue mail. It's free and works with exchange for my work email. I don't use Gmail as it sucks for tweaking. I rarely use Google apps. I use Google calendar, YouTube, Google sheets and Google docs and that's it.
In blue mail there are sync settings
geoff5093 said:
The advanced one as well?
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Yes
Eric214 said:
I go to settings>accounts>google and turnoff all the syncing options. For calendar and contacts, when I add any, I go into there and just turn them on, let them sync and then turn them back off. Why just let them sync all day long with nothing to sync? Doesn't make sense to me. Also in Setting>Data Usage>Cellular Data Usage i tap each thing and disable background data for each individual app that I don't need doing anything. I leave apps like email, messaging apps (Textra, What'sApp web browser, Google Play Services, Solid Explorer, DropBox, Weather Android OS ) with background on so they work properly. So you know, things like Web Browsers and Solid Explorer you need their background data on so if you are downloading from the net or moving files with the file manager they will fail, so you have to leave those on. Likewise with Google Play Services, you can't download from the play store with background data disabled.
Also, you can turn off location permissions to all apps that don't need it. Go to settings>apps>App Permissions and you can select Location and it will list all apps that have the ability to request Location Permissions. Right now mine says 4 of 30 has location permissions. I have Samsung Internet, Google, Maps and Weather. I have all other apps location turned off. Here you can just go down the list instead have having to go into each app. I also Keep Location set to battery saving unless I need Maps and I just turn it to High Accuracy.
With this and keeping screen brightness on auto I get 9-11 hours SOT. Maybe a little less now since I just bought a gear S3 Frontier watch so my Bluetooth is always active now and communicating to the watch. Oh and a couple other things. I have work email set to push and personal email to sync every 3 hours and weather sync every 6 hours. These are things that are personal preferences and will cause battery life to vary. But setting up background data usage and Location permissions can go a long way for battery life.
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Thanks a lot! I did everything. Lets see if it works!
ItsCrewz said:
Thanks a lot! I did everything. Lets see if it works!
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Let me know how it works out for you.
maybe you could try
1. going to developer option and decreasing the animation to 0.5x from 1x
2. disabling auto sync in accounts
3. enabling dark theme
4. using wifi more, than using 4G
you will significantly see improvement in the battery life, though the battery is already kickass in the first place
prawalhaina said:
maybe you could try
1. going to developer option and decreasing the animation to 0.5x from 1x
2. disabling auto sync in accounts
3. enabling dark theme
4. using wifi more, than using 4G
you will significantly see improvement in the battery life, though the battery is already kickass in the first place
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Yep having all that already
geoff5093 said:
Stop using apps like Greenify and wakelock detector, they honestly do more harm than good with the newer versions of Android. OnePlus has this built in anyways, called battery optimization. Turn on advanced optimization and only allow apps you NEED to get real time notifications for, I get great battery life with that setup.
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You sure because when i use greenify i get way better battery life and greenify also adopts to the newer version of android with shallow sleep.

Question [Q] Adaptive battery brings restricted background apps back to optimized

Got weird observation - curious, if it's only in my case or it's typical.
1. I restrict background usage of the app (doesn't matter which one - google apps as well as 3rd party) with adaptive battery on.
2. After a while (let's say few hours) this app goes back to optimized by itself.
It happens with most of my apps. I can restrict 30 apps and after short period of time only 5-6 stay in restricted mode.
Has anyone got the same problem and/or can share a solution?
Same for me, just wanted to search if iam the only one. Although I think it takes days or weeks for me. Maybe it's a setting we Activate which deletes it (maybe Using adaptive battery?)
I have adaptive battery on and restricted apps, and they stay restricted.
I don't open these apps though, perhaps if you open'restricted' apps they become optimised, which makes sense.
piotrkruczek said:
Got weird observation - curious, if it's only in my case or it's typical.
1. I restrict background usage of the app (doesn't matter which one - google apps as well as 3rd party) with adaptive battery on.
2. After a while (let's say few hours) this app goes back to optimized by itself.
It happens with most of my apps. I can restrict 30 apps and after short period of time only 5-6 stay in restricted mode.
Has anyone got the same problem and/or can share a solution?
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Thats weird, all my restricted app stay restricted with adaptive battery on
I've the same problem, restricted app goes back to optimized
I have the same problem as well, but I thought they reverted back to optimized following a phone restart - I thought that was the trigger. Anyone else confirm?
Psychlone said:
I have the same problem as well, but I thought they reverted back to optimized following a phone restart - I thought that was the trigger. Anyone else confirm?
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that should not be the trigger, i restart my phone often and I don't think it ever reverted back because of this.
Hi, I have the same problem with or without adaptative battery. Any solution?
It's annoying because I have Youtube Vanced with MicroG and sometimes MicroG consume a lot of battery. And if I choose restrictive battery, this come back to optimized
PD: I'm not root
EDIT: Not only bring it back to optimized, Garmin connect app backs to unrestrictived (it's default for Garmin app).

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