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expand battery life on Moto X Play 5.1.1

Hi there,
i was playing around now for some time to expand my battery life in our phone. Maybe some of you know this but i wanted to share my experience which helped me a lot with battery issues.
My main problem was the short standby time. Taking a look into the battery statistics always says my main battery drainers where external applications und the google (play) services. Taking a little more deeper looks says that my main battery drain seemed to be caused in the 'Mobilfunkschnittstelle aktiv' (mobile radio interface active?) entry. I had values of multiple hours here beeing active.
I usually disable the location services because i dont need them. Which can be different for you, of course. Also i usually play around with BetterBatteryStats and Autostarts app for analyzing and disabling various services. This time i skipped this and went across a xposed module in the web.
So, the simple trick for me was to flash xposed with twrp (root needed of course) and install the xposed MobileRadioActiveFix module.
After fixing this i now have a 4 days run time with at least 6 accounts syncing and a weather app and so forth. I didnt have that before on any other device. By the way: i'm not using my phone very often and i don't wont to say: 'i have the biggest', don't want to compete but only suggest giving it a try if you suffer from low standby time.
Regards.
A little PS: some other good xposed modules i'd like to suggest:
- GEL settings: to edit google launcher, eg. removing the google search bar and the homescreen grid
- Battery Percentage Text

are you on lollipop or MM ???
I am on lollipop and I had tried this module a while back it didn't work.
and are you on mobile data or WiFi ???... because with mobile data on ..radio active shows on my battery stats.
what is your SOT now ???

bablu048 said:
are you on lollipop or MM ???
I am on lollipop and I had tried this module a while back it didn't work.
and are you on mobile data or WiFi ???... because with mobile data on ..radio active shows on my battery stats.
what is your SOT now ???
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lollipop, as the title says
Usually i am on mobile data. And of course there is still some time on radio active in the stats but its way less then before. My first entry in the battery stats where 'google (play) service' with 15% or more. Second was a 'mail client' with 12% and other external apps. This all went better after installing the xposed fix. My first entry now is 'mobile standby'
My SOT is something around 5 hours. Please, dont forget: i really not using my phone very often. My main goal was extending the standby time.
My experience with other devices: depending on the quality of your signal strength your battery can vary heavily. But i guess, thats something you already know. I, btw. have a good 4g signal here.

aVe2000 said:
lollipop, as the title says
Usually i am on mobile data. And of course there is still some time on radio active in the stats but its way less then before. My first entry in the battery stats where 'google (play) service' with 15% or more. Second was a 'mail client' with 12% and other external apps. This all went better after installing the xposed fix. My first entry now is 'mobile standby'
My SOT is something around 5 hours. Please, dont forget: i really not using my phone very often. My main goal was extending the standby time.
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well cheers, we have the same goal. i used amplify+greenify then i uninstalled exposed and started testing how long i could extend battery on stock and doze+greenify. i have removed maximum google apps and i am constantly getting 1+hour of SOT for every 10% battery. i am on dual sim[one of it is roaming] and i am on mobile data. now i am gonna give exposed another shot, hope radiofix works this time.
'Mobile standby' is a problem i have tried to fix it many times but failed, it eats battery when i am on data which is always, if you find a solution please post it here.
you could disable background data for play services to squeeze more juice out of your battery and about mail app drain i suggest you take a look at F-Droid it's a collection of open source softwares.

aVe2000 said:
Hi there,
i was playing around now for some time to expand my battery life in our phone. Maybe some of you know this but i wanted to share my experience which helped me a lot with battery issues.
My main problem was the short standby time. Taking a look into the battery statistics always says my main battery drainers where external applications und the google (play) services. Taking a little more deeper looks says that my main battery drain seemed to be caused in the 'Mobilfunkschnittstelle aktiv' (mobile radio interface active?) entry. I had values of multiple hours here beeing active.
I usually disable the location services because i dont need them. Which can be different for you, of course. Also i usually play around with BetterBatteryStats and Autostarts app for analyzing and disabling various services. This time i skipped this and went across a xposed module in the web.
So, the simple trick for me was to flash xposed with twrp (root needed of course) and install the xposed MobileRadioActiveFix module.
After fixing this i now have a 4 days run time with at least 6 accounts syncing and a weather app and so forth. I didnt have that before on any other device. By the way: i'm not using my phone very often and i don't wont to say: 'i have the biggest', don't want to compete but only suggest giving it a try if you suffer from low standby time.
Regards.
A little PS: some other good xposed modules i'd like to suggest:
- GEL settings: to edit google launcher, eg. removing the google search bar and the homescreen grid
- Battery Percentage Text
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But most have already updated to MM. If it works then it's a good thing.
Sent from my XT1562 using Tapatalk

I found that disabling background data for affect apps seemed to help on 5.1, but this limits device experience.
I'm on MM now and usually get all day stand by and about 5 to 6 hours SOT. Today I have 5 hours of voice calls and 2 of SOT and am at 40% battery which isn't bad. Off charge at 5:30 am and it is currently 8:30pm. That's excellent for me. MM is a great update for battery on these phones.
Edit: I meant to say as well that the 5 hours of voice was over a Bluetooth headset. Pretty busy day

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But most have already updated to MM. If it works then it's a good thing.
Sent from my XT1562 using Tapatalk
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I am not sure about this. In europe its still not rolled out (at least not in germany).

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Why

you can play with the values ​​of animation in developer options,
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Battery life considerably worse after update to 9.0

OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.

NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Click the three dots in the top right and choose battery usage.
As for battery life, mine has improved greatly on Android P

NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...

Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie even if I didn't have any major problem with 8.1 either. Overnight drain 3-4%. After regular use after a full day I easily exceed 5h SOT. Everything stock with just Greenify in non root mode. I couldn't be happier, best Android release so far for me.

NickJHP said:
OTA update to 9.0 available a couple of days ago so I let it install. Since then, I've seen considerably quicker draining of the battery, with my usage of the phone being much the same as before. For example, when I went to sleep last night the battery was at 64%, and there were no apps running according to a swipe up from Home, but when I woke this morning, battery was down to 2%. I normally charge once a day, and previously the battery was hardly ever below 50% after 24 hours - I'm a pretty light user.
As an aside, with 9.0 there no longer appears to be possible under battery usage information in Settings to see the percentage of battery that has been used by the various apps and processes.
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I've had my p2 installed with PIE for about 2 days now. I suggest giving it a week (which is what I'm doing) and then getting a full overview of how my battery is performing. Usually, after any major OS updates, being that apps are trying to utilize your resources and a new version of Android would try to allocate and learn your usage (in this case battery), you'd get a much better definitive idea of your overall performance.
I also think that since its now available, turn on Adaptive Battery mode. After a day of upgrading the OS, Adaptive battery at my 26 hr mark of upgrade said that one of my apps was taking in a lot of resources to be used in the background (ES File Explorer). I made AB to stop ES from taking battery resources.
So in conclusion, if it a week and then you'll be able to get a better overall understanding of whether your battery REALLY has gotten worse or better.
Hope this helps!

Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?

Exact same problem here after updating. Even tried a factory reset in case it was an updating issue. Same problem. My battery is currently at 43% 4 hours after a full charge. And I've barely used it. This is really poor.
No new apps installed.
My Oreo battery life was great. I'll try shutting off adaptive battery as suggested - but seems a real shame if one of the flagship battery saving features is doing the total opposite on Google's current flagship phone!
Doesn't seem to be a massively common issue so not sure if a likelihood of a patch either

Just a quick update - Google play services has now become the biggest drain on my battery, just as it was before I factory reset after the first install...
Anyone else had the same?

gbmasterdoctor said:
Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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Interestingly, my battery was dropping really quickly too after the update to DP3, I switched off Adaptive Battery and it fixed the issue completely.
I tried it again with Android Pie and the issue resumed, so I turned it back off. Maybe try this too?
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I had the same issue and did the same thing... until dp3 and my battery usage was terrible again even with adaptive battery turned off. I ended up turning it on again and after about a week my battery usage was back where it was before. So there doesn't seem to be a magic bullet here. FWIW app usage offered no insight as to what was causing the drain in the first place.

MaxNXS said:
Battery on my P2 has significantly improved with Pie
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THIS.
I got like 8+ hours of SOT.... no mobile network though, all day wifi use only.

I have this issue. Dropped about 40% over night. I found that turning wifi off stopped the drain completely. I did not have this problem with Oreo at all so it's not the networks im connecting to. Weird thing is this did not happen when I first installed Pie. This started happening about 3 days into installing. Also, I put it in safe mode and saw the same drain with wifi on vs off.

Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
I've gone from draining 8-10% an hour (screen off) to around 2.5%/hour and from 1hr 35 total SOT to 3hrs 39 minutes with 32% left (and an hour of that was Google maps navigating, so a proper work out for the phone).
Do give it a try and let me know if it works for you.
Although there's room for improvement (idle 2.5%/h seems high to me!) and it's ludicrous that I should have spent several hours finding a fix for this on 100% stock android, I'm very happy to have a usable battery life back again...
Adam.
UPDATE: Seems like in the night I lost 40% again. Idle drain climbed it's way up to 5.6% in the night. Still an improvement from where it was before, but not quite as good as it first appeared...

WibblyW said:
Ok here. 62% drop over night doing nothing suggests you have a rogue app in there. I'm assuming you have ok cellular coverage and nothing has changed there by coincidence. I would reboot and force close every app you have that's not essential overnight and try again. Swipe up from home and clearing those apps doesn't force close the apps. Greenify is an app that (in manual mode) will make it easy to select as many apps as you want and force close the lot of them. If that improves the situation you can then begin to work out which app(s) might be doing bad stuff whilst you sleep...
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@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?

WibblyW said:
@Burkules I drop 0.4 - 0.7%/hr over night with Bluetooth off/Wifi on/strong cellular signal. Much the same as it was with Oreo. Not quite sure why's there's such a big range (almost 2x) but either way it's ok for me. Did you try the technique above?
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Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.

Burkules said:
Cheers for getting back on this.
I left it on safe mode the other night and it still drained absurdly fast, which suggests to me it's a google system drain rather than rogue app, but will try again with app preview now switched off. Likewise will try greenify again and report back.
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Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...

WibblyW said:
Likewise maybe app preview set to off will help me even more. If I recall correctly rogue apps can cause some google system apps to wake up, but perhaps not in safe mode...
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So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....

Burkules said:
So, switched off adaptive battery again (i'd enabled it after my short-lived miracle recovery the other day) and now I'm down to 4%/hour. Which is better but still really high for idling! Cleared cache and data in Google play services for good measure too as it still comes up super high on the list of battery drainers.
Booting into safe mode now to check the drain without adaptive there and will report back...
UPDATE: Exactly the same drain in safe mode. This is a straight up google problem....
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Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?

WibblyW said:
Have you tried to force close every app you've downloaded too?
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Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?

Burkules said:
Haven't tried this - but if the battery drain is the same in safe mode (with only google/system apps running) I can't see how it will make a difference. Ill be in rehearsal for several hours today so will force close everything and will then be leaving my phone idling for a few hours anyway.
I signup up to the google play services beta yesterday, and google play services no longer appears as one of the top battery users... but the battery drain is the same and the numbers given in *all* battery apps (Gsam/accubattery/system) don't add up to anything close to the actual % drain. System battery displays 15% of usage (with 'full device usage' on show) when the battery is quite evidently at 48% from full charge. Total cluster****. So pissed off I updated.
Have you seen any improvement in yours with any of these workarounds?
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Nothing to lose by trying. And as I said, Greenify makes it easy/quick to do. Force closing is almost as good as uninstalling those apps as the vast majority of installed apps won't restart or run in background until you use them for the first time again. In my experience, quiescent battery consumption (e.g. noticed over night):
Is vastly affected negatively by poor cellular signal strength. Marginal coverage can really drain the battery fast.
Gradually gets worse between reboots
Can be improved (once it degrades) if you force close all the apps you've installed, and swipe away the background apps just before you go to bed!
If quiescent consumption suddenly rises I can normally fix it by force closing all the apps (not being sure which was the one gone rogue/suddenly misbehaving)
At night I generally have excellent cellular coverage, good WiFi, and Bluetooth is off. NFC is always off
I don't enable sync on 2 of the 3 Gmail accounts I have configured
I disable notifications from any apps I don't actually need them from
Quiescent battery consumption is between, say, 0.4% and, 0.7%/hr at home, around 2 to 3%/hr when out and about which I put down to all background data being driven over 4G instead of Wifi, and variable cellular coverage
I've not noticed quiescent battery consumption change between Oreo and Pie, but this may be because I keep force closing apps at night and not giving adaptive battery (which I have on) a chance to have the same effect intelligently
Turning off app preview messages has made no practical different for me
I'm completely stock (stock launcher, not rooted, etc.)
If you can't fix it, at least a factory reset as the next experiment has the option to restore *most* of what was there before (so long as you have had the backup setting enabled). But because not everything is restored it's still a pain. And if that doesn't work it's another factory reset and test and then restore everything manually and gradually :-S. But I think you already tried that?

Burkules said:
Hi guys,
I seem to have fixed my terrible battery life!
The below might be worth a try if you're still suffering from it.
I noticed in GSAM that RCSphone was the front runner in battery drain so did a little research and found this site.
SOLUTION: Turn off app preview messages (settings / google / app preview messages). Apparently its only function is to allow Allo messages to be received without the app. To me, totally pointless as i don't know - nor have ever met - a single person who uses it.
Thanks, just tried that as well and my battery has stayed resolutely at 68% on idle beside me for the last few hours, previously it had gone from 100% down to 69% in about 4 hours whilst similarly doing nothing.
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How To Make Your Battery Life Better, And Why Does Your Battery Life Suck?

Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.

Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?

zax880 said:
Thanks for tips.
I have a request for you. Could you make a list of evenwell apps which are 100% safe to uninstall from N7+?
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No problem I actually have a guide i followed both explaining what you can and what you must NOT.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/nokia-2-apps-safe-to-delete-t3783158
it is for nokia 2 it says but its so to say the same for nokia 7 plus. Have a look, and let me know if issues!

I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings

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I could't find 4G aggressive switch in developer settings
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nexus723 said:
Hey guys! Posted this on Reddit, and many people loved my guide and explanations, SO Posting this here and hope this helps everyone with issues about the battery etc.
After a few days of testing these are my tips to you guys, AND my experience how I got atleast better battery life to some extinct.
Now to the basic charging tip as some, and some not know. Charging between 30% to 80/90% is smart. Wears the battery much less than 0 to 100% for instance. Read this up further if you need, not gonna talk about this forever.
To the Nokia battery part. So first of all MANY users have reported Adaptive battery and auto-brightness are bugged and drains more than they should. Well this is true. DO NOT use adaptive battery if you experience bad battery life, and especially not auto-brightness. Why am I saying do not use it? Simple. It does the opposite, so is reported many others. I tested this carefully when sleeping to test the idle drain just by having the Android system installed and a few apps. I got a drain of around 10 to 13% through only 9 hours of sleeping. This is bad. However when adaptive battery turned off, no apps restricted I tested for many days and ended up with only a drain of 2 to 4% through those 9 hours. Will it help you? I dunno, but worked for many.
EVENWELL APPS. Usually bloatware. Only few apps from evenwell is needed for the OS to work. The powersaving g3 package from evenwell, which is a third party that Nokia has done some kind of deal with. The powersaving was suppose to help, but instead made things worse. Making alarms useless etc etc that has been mentioned on the forum. It kills apps even wehn whitelisted or when the phone was locked for a while.
Hook up the nokia on your pc and use adb. Uninstall this package, and almost all evenwell packages installed. Atleast powersaving g3 package, as it's known to drain. Most are bloatware, however you need to be careful not to delete the wrong packages, as they can only be restored by factory reset. Which packages to uninstall depends on your needs. Please remember to check on xda to find a guide on this, if not I will find it for you. This can help a lot just by using some of your time to remove stuff you might not need.
Turn off the aggressive 4g switch in developer settings. It will set 4g to always active, and you are better off just having it off. Should be called something like "Mobile data always active".
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in
Now for me I have these settings mentioned above, and I use my phone a lot, I get around 2 to 2,5 days of use of the phone just by doing these things. Uninstalling many evenwell packages helped a lot too. If none of these tips help you, then deleting caches can help. If not backup and factory reset the phone. If that does not work too, then it could just be the Pie updates being drainy for you. Hope this helps anyone ! Ask me if any questions!
Question: When turning off adaptive battery it keeps turning on after a while. Answer: have atleast 1 app restricted and adaptive battery on. From there turn it off and let the 1 app stay restricted (it really isn't). Now it should hopefully stay off.
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Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.

trveller72 said:
Thanks for your effort to put this together.
I am not sure about Evenwell apps and I'll explain why:
- I did not uninstalled or blocked Evenwell app. What I did was to turn off battery saver (maybe it's the same thing?) And that improved battery life a lot.
- I am getting 2.5 - 3 days battery use for a full charge (100% charge - did this with every phone I had, never had an issue with battery).
- I do not have issues with alarms, fitness tracking, notifications, etc.
- I agree with disabling 4g always on - that helps a lot
- definitely agree with Facebook.
- adaptive battery is still on.
I am on Pie, December patch.
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And a screenshot for battery saver

Thanks i actually thought that the Android One meant a debloated system. So i never even cared about checking the system apps. Well now my phone is debloated! Almost as many ****ty apps that Samsung has.
It runs much smoother in the UI too.
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Whats that unaccounted apps are, telewell apps?

And it tooks more than screen on does...

nexus723 said:
You got facebook? Well many has reported that facebook drains a lot, as it uses many services to communicate with the phone. I usually just use dolphin browser and have facebook logged in.
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I'm using Maki

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After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!

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Strmy said:
After update to 9.0 my battery life became very bad... SoT was barely 2.5h.
However, i found out a way to fix it!
Deleting facebook app, and disabling battery aid improved it alot, disabling sync can also give you a little boost .. Deleting facebook app helped the most. I get between 5-6h SoT. Cheers!
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what do you mean by Battery aid?

Strmy said:
Deleting facebook app
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You should always remove facebook and messenger app and use facebook lite and messenger lite instead

what's the best solution for now to increase sot?

I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.

christ59520 said:
I have a Nokia 7 Plus (Europe) with Android Pie and I have no application problem killed. I do not see any difference in disabling the battery management as well as "evenwell".
What empties
my battery is "Google Play Service". Almost 2% per hour is way too much for a device on standby at night.
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You need to clear cache from Google Play services or perhaps wait for a new update from Google. I had the same issue , however clearing the cache helped me restore battery to a respectable level.

Battery life is awesome for me. It lasts 9 hours in 81% (from 98% to 17%) screen on time, wi-fi always on, without gaming, location disabled (it takes a lot of battery)

After updating to March security patch (Android Pie), battery life returns to great! Adaptive battery can now be permanently turned off and I'm getting average 3 days of normal use on a single charge.

Question Did anyone notice the huge standby battery drain? Any way to measure what causes it?

First off, I love the phone and I'll keep it, but ever since I got the phone I've been wondering why it's draining so much in standby. It's my first Samsung phone since 2011, so naturally I assume it's Samsung apps/services that drain? Especially since I don't use any new apps than on my other phones and in the battery stats it doesn't really show any user apps that use a lot.
Anyone has way to measure what system/user apps drain during standby? Or even better, any dev that could do a deeper dive into this?
For example, I just lost 32% battery while sleeping for about 8h, it has never been this much on any other of my previous phones (OnePlus Nord/Pixel 3a/Pixel 3/Pixel 2).
In fact, my OnePlus Nord with 815mAh more than the Flip3 is currently on last charge 3 days ago (it doesn't show me hours anymore) and 2h35m SOT and 25% battery left. On the Flip I just now got 17h with 1h30m SOT and 5% left. Settings all similar besides location accuracy turned off for the Flip as that was a massive drain.
Something must be unintentionally draining the battery during standby and I really hope one of you smart guys can find it. Or Samsung fixes it with an update..

I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.

twistedumbrella said:
I disabled AOD and any unnecessary account sync processes. It's only drained about 2% in standby the last 5 hours, but there are still some things to finish configuring.
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If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone

M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.

M4-NOOB said:
If have AOD on a schedule so it's turned off during sleeping, account syncing I don't have anything that I can turn off and I never did on any previous phone
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The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.

ione2380 said:
How old is your device? You got to give it some time to settle. I had 15% battery drain the first night, after that it went down to 5%.
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Got it 4 days ago

twistedumbrella said:
The first step in improving the battery is to remember that this isn't any other phone. You may want to explore what options are available and what all you have enabled. By default, almost everything is on to show off all the cool new features that make this a Flip 3, not a OnePlus Nord.
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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone

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Which Flip features are in use during standby though? During standby it's just another phone
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Not true. Samsung has a bunch of features still in use.
Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.

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Settings -> Advanced features -> Motions and gestures has a whole collection of things that are still running when the screen is off (and most aren't useful to the Flip, but came from "another phone").
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I've turned a few things off there, but a lot of them OnePlus has too + a few more, which I had all enabled
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Settings -> Cover screen allows you to disable turning on the screen when notifications arrive, if that is not something you need.
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I didn't really get any notification during last night, so I doubt this was the culprit
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Also, unless you are using the app to lower the refresh rate, you may be running a bit high when idle.
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Yes I'm using that app and have it set to 48-96Hz
Appreciate the help, I believe there must be something that's unintentionally draining and while I went through every single setting in the beginning, I'm still very new to OneUI (and also impressed how far it came from the TouchWiz ****show)

One thing I always forget is that a lot of those features are running services and polling when they're enabled. Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
The calibration period is also horrible. Android 11 is slow to calibrate the battery and Samsung is worse. You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
One thing Asus does that I wish Samsung would embrace is Auto-start management. Some apps aren't efficient at polling for notifications and more than once have been the cause of major drain.
Another one even Samsung admits to be a source of drain is the edge panels. If you don't use them, it's best to kill the entire feature.

twistedumbrella said:
Even though I'm not touching the screen with the tap to wake enabled, it's constantly waiting for that tap when it's asleep. Any one isn't a big impact, but Samsung has so many "convenience" features that I end up wasting battery to never use.
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I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
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You can get a good idea of what is draining battery by going to Settings -> Battery and device care -> Battery. That may help find out if it's a renegade app.
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Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot

M4-NOOB said:
I just assumed it's not a big impact as OnePlus has those as well, for example draw a "V" on screen for flashlight or ">" to skip song besides the regular double tap to wake and it never appeared to be a battery issue for me before.
Do I assume correctly that some system apps or similar are hidden there? I just did the calculations and the percentages only make up 43.6%. I attached a screenshot
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OnePlus also optimizes them better than brand new Samsung firmware. I had a lot of stuff enabled on the Note 20 Ultra that I won't be using for a month or two now.
Some apps are excluded, but it will let you know if it's something not included with the phone.
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.

twistedumbrella said:
Another good idea is to uninstall, disable, or "adb uninstall" any bloat you don't use. Besides clearing up space in the app drawer, it kills off services you don't use. A lot of the apps will run services even before you sign in, even though they aren't actually handling any data.
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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list

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I already went through the list and uninstalled which I 100% knew what it was and that it's not needed, but not sure about 99% of Samsung stuff. Some Samsung apps on the phone I don't even know what they are and when I start them it just prompts to agree to some terms before starting the app... I'll have a look around for a Samsung debloat list
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If you have the unlocked version, they allowed uninstall for a lot of apps that were previously locked. A lot can also be downloaded later from Google Play or the Galaxy Store if you change your mind.
I use Firefox, so I uninstall Samsung Internet and Chrome. Members and Health are two big ones that like to run those "please enable us" services. It's a lot of deciding what you might use versus what you can live without.
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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twistedumbrella said:
Another good idea is to add anything you won't use, but didn't remove to deep sleeping apps to kill it's ability to run in the background. It's the closest thing to auto start management without rooting.
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Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow

M4-NOOB said:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.

ShayMagen said:
Thank you for taking the time, mine is also going down %30 overnight. would love to hear about your result.
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So far I don't have much hope sadly. Whole day currently at home and not using the phone much and it's looking like in the screenshot (screen off, loosing almost 2.7% per hour, as comparison my OnePlus is at 0.9% per hour)
https://imgur.com/RLITZwQ
It's 21:21 at the moment and I'm at 54% after 9h 42m (comparison OnePlus with 815mAh more: 7% after 79h with 2h54m SOT)
https://imgur.com/M9zO2hV
I'll probably head to bed in a few hours and then report back tomorrow morning how much I lost during the night..

I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.

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I'm not claiming to have amazing battery life, since I almost considered keeping my trade-in and returning this one over it. I am interested why it is so bad for others, though.
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HOLY **** I would love to have this battery life. I'm literally not doing anything with the phone and just loosing so much. I'm pretty much the opposite of a power user, so my phone is in standby most of the time and loosing so much is pretty frustrating.
EDIT: I might have an idea why it's so bad for me, I don't really have reception in my apartment (as you can see on my screenshots), so I assume it's constantly trying to get better receptions, I see 2 bars sometimes, but most of the time 0. I'll keep my phone at the window where I have reception for the rest of the day and see if it makes a difference. (Although the OnePlus has also bad reception, but does have a different carriers SIM card)

M4-NOOB said:
Yeah I do have 57 apps there already
I just removed 85 apps/services via adb, let's see how it is tonight and I'll report back tomorrow
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Dependencies, dependencies, dependencies... some of those apks just sit there unless needed.
Do not disable apks/services unless you know what they do and what, if any, their dependencies are. Go too far and you'll end up in a boot loop.
What works for others probably isn't ideal for you.
Package Disabler is a better option as you easily toggle apks on/off as needed.
Screen off the serial offenders tend to be Google backup Transport, Framework and any cloud apps.
Try disabling Google play Services at night and see if that helps. You may need to disable Find my Device first as System Administrator if disable is greyed out.
Disabling play services also kills Gmaps and Playstore which are know hogs. Gmail as well to a lesser extent.
Google Firebase, do you need it? If not disable.
Carrier, Google, Samsung and app feedback, disable.
Using power management can cause erratic behavior and not solve the problem. Treat each power hog on a case by case basis instead. It takes a lot longer but yields a cleaner, more stable setup.
Play with it, go through -all- the settings. It's actually quit fun to explore and almost impossible to crash and burn.
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General How I vastly improved my S22 Ultra battery life in 2 steps

Hey all,
I bought an S22 Ultra a few months ago and was disappointed with the battery life I got, even after I waited fo Adaptive battery to kick in. I expected a hell a lot more with a 4nm chip and more efficient LTPO Adaptive refresh display. So, I did some investigation and I think the main culprit it background services hogging battery. I tried out a few settings and finally found the following 2 steps to help me drastically improve my standby drain and battery life. Thought, I'd share them here, so anyone else who has terrible battery from the S22 series could try this out to improve their battery life.
Here is what I did;
1. In the Developer options, there's an option called "Suspend execution for cached apps". Please enable this! We all have to accept that Samsung devices have a lot of services running in background which hog the battery and all poorly optimized for efficiency. As some other posts have claimed this setting just shuts off all unnecessary nonsense running in the background. After enabling this setting, my standby drain is incredibly minimal (about 2% overnight, utit used to be 6% or more). I still get notifications from messenger apps (see next step).
2. In "Background usage limits", put all rarely used apps to Deep sleep or even just sleep. Here, make sure to put all your messenger apps to never sleeping to get notifications.
NOTE: I don't see any performance hit with the suspend cached app setting. Adaptive battery should actually do this (in a less obtrusive way) , but for some reason doesn't work as good this setting in disabling background usage. If anyone cares to explain this, I'm all ears

Do you keep adaptive battery on

bodomfan said:
Do you keep adaptive battery on
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Yes. I have left it on. When I disabled it, I got slightly worse battery life. But, the game changer is suspending cached execution. I see immense difference after enabling it
One thing I don't understand is, in Android 12/13, if we put apps to Deep sleep and keep adaptive battery on, I don't know if this will affect the Deep sleep configuration

krishnandb said:
Yes. I have left it on. When I disabled it, I got slightly worse battery life. But, the game changer is suspending cached execution. I see immense difference after enabling it
One thing I don't understand is, in Android 12/13, if we put apps to Deep sleep and keep adaptive battery on, I don't know if this will affect the Deep sleep configuration
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I find it better off personally adaptive battery

подскажите этот метод кому помог в плане автономности?

anyone else test it?
phone apps works fine with option Suspend execution for cached apps?

matale0 said:
anyone else test it?
phone apps works fine with option Suspend execution for cached apps?
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Yes, phone apps works fine.

I followed this stopping cached apps since 10 am, it is now 7 pm, so far, so good, all notifications ok, no delays

I'm testing this now, I'll update tomorrow with any results.

always start with DEBLOAT

krishnandb said:
Hey all,
I bought an S22 Ultra a few months ago and was disappointed with the battery life I got, even after I waited fo Adaptive battery to kick in. I expected a hell a lot more with a 4nm chip and more efficient LTPO Adaptive refresh display. So, I did some investigation and I think the main culprit it background services hogging battery. I tried out a few settings and finally found the following 2 steps to help me drastically improve my standby drain and battery life. Thought, I'd share them here, so anyone else who has terrible battery from the S22 series could try this out to improve their battery life.
Here is what I did;
1. In the Developer options, there's an option called "Suspend execution for cached apps". Please enable this! We all have to accept that Samsung devices have a lot of services running in background which hog the battery and all poorly optimized for efficiency. As some other posts have claimed this setting just shuts off all unnecessary nonsense running in the background. After enabling this setting, my standby drain is incredibly minimal (about 2% overnight, utit used to be 6% or more). I still get notifications from messenger apps (see next step).
2. In "Background usage limits", put all rarely used apps to Deep sleep or even just sleep. Here, make sure to put all your messenger apps to never sleeping to get notifications.
NOTE: I don't see any performance hit with the suspend cached app setting. Adaptive battery should actually do this (in a less obtrusive way) , but for some reason doesn't work as good this setting in disabling background usage. If anyone cares to explain this, I'm all ears
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I am testing this right now, and after almost 1 day of ussage, i think that battery has improoved quite a bit.
18h 28min usage, out of that 4h SOT, and i have 37% left battery. , so thanks for this. One more thing that i did is, i turned off RAM plus. I think 12 GB of RAM is enough.

Hello, can someone tell me how to disable RAM plus? I want to test if this improves battery, but can't see an option to disable it, only to select how much RAM you want to assign. I'm in Android 12, still waiting the update. Many thanks.

I just turned it on, lets see what happens.

Marcelocohenarg said:
Hello, can someone tell me how to disable RAM plus? I want to test if this improves battery, but can't see an option to disable it, only to select how much RAM you want to assign. I'm in Android 12, still waiting the update. Many thanks.
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Disable Samsung RAM Plus
Android Police has an article on how to disable Samsung RAM Plus if you're still one OneUI 4.x. In the beta for OneUI 5, the option is there but it's not in v4. RAM Plus allows you to allocate a portion of your phone's storage to act as virtual...
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Tested it for a bout a week, battery is a bit better, but in some cases system UI gets unresponssive or totaly lags out. Would not recommend this option as it is not stable. Also in some calls people didnt hear me, so I had to repeat the call, than it would work fine.

Tried it for a few days and went back to the default setting. Phone performs better in default setting for me. Battery life was never an issue for me either.