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So I got my i9500 and already did some foolery with it.
Fine device, but I hate the raised lip around the screen edge. Something I definitely did not miss on the S3 and something very annoying.
Other than that small design critique:
THE ****ING PHONE ISN'T RUNNING FINAL FIRMWARE!
Basically the CPU is running on the cluster migration driver, meaning it switches all four cores from the LITTLE to the big cluster, as opposed to the core migration driver who does this in an individual core-pair manner.
You can pretty much throw all battery comparisons out of the window: it's completely unfinished and unoptimal.
I already compiled the kernel and flashed it without the cluster migration tidbit, but the phone won't boot. So yea. Current sources also useless.
Cleverly enough: you can't really distinguish between the two drivers apart from one manner: if /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/iks-cpufreq/max_eagle_count is present, you're running an IKS driver. If it's not, then you're running the sub-optimal IKCS driver.
So yea. We'll see what Samsung does about this, currently the advantages of big.LITTLE are pretty much unused.
Another nail in the coffin on how rushed and unprepared this phone has been.
Wow, this is seriously turning out to be a fiasco.
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Wow, this is seriously turning out to be a fiasco.
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This is EXACTLY why at the end I don't care for technical details about socs but was rather waiting for real world usage first. As much I wanted to agree with Andrei Lux on how intelligent BigLittle is, I sort of felt that it wont be same at the end.
Question is now: Is this possible to fix in the near future?? So that maybe buying the Exynos will be beneficial if the devs take over. I wont bet on Samsung introducing mind-blowing improvements in that department in upcoming firmwares
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Question is now: Is this possible to fix in the near future?? So that maybe buying the Exynos will be beneficial if the devs take over. I wont bet on Samsung introducing mind-blowing improvements in that department in upcoming firmwares
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The code other driver is there in the kernel, it's just not used. No idea. It's not like we need Samsung for it: I already talked to a developer at Linaro about some incomplete switcher code that's being currently getting the green-light to be made public. But who knows how long that will take.
Whatever the case, I gather that they can't just let it be in the current state.
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The code other driver is there in the kernel, it's just not used. No idea. It's not like we need Samsung for it: I already talked to a developer at Linaro about some incomplete switcher code that's being currently getting the green-light to be made public. But who knows how long that will take.
Whatever the case, I gather that they can't just let it be in the current state.
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Any way to just disable cortex a15 altogether yet just to see how well cortex a7 will perform in simple texting, browsing, calling and to see what the battery life will be like on that?? (cause cortex a7 only uses like 200 something mw as opposed to 1000mw for snapdragon). I know u wont be able to game. How often does Cortex A15 hits in? cause I would suspect a much worse battery life with incomplete drivers doing the switching if its very often on. But PocketNow reports very similar battery results to snapdragon variant which I find odd
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Any way to just disable cortex a15 altogether yet just to see how well cortex a7 will perform in simple texting, browsing, calling and to see what the battery life will be like on that?? (cause cortex a7 only uses like 200 something mw as opposed to 1000mw for snapdragon). I know u wont be able to game. How often does Cortex A15 hits in? cause I would suspect a much worse battery life with incomplete drivers doing the switching if its very often on. But PocketNow reports very similar battery results to snapdragon variant which I find odd
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Use any app to limit the CPU frequency to 600MHz. That'll limit it to the A7 cores running to 1200MHz. Basically you can just use CPU-Spy. Everything <= 600 are A7's mapped at half frequency, everything above it are A15's at 1:1 frequency.
As for PocketNow: irrelevant. The difference is what could be instead of what is, the Snapdragon doesn't play a role in the discussion here.
WOW , thats sucks
Samsung was too rushed and ruined it :/
AndreiLux said:
Use any app to limit the CPU frequency to 600MHz. That'll limit it to the A7 cores running to 1200MHz. Basically you can just use CPU-Spy. Everything <= 600 are A7's mapped at half frequency, everything above it are A15's at 1:1 frequency.
As for PocketNow: irrelevant. The difference is what could be instead of what is, the Snapdragon doesn't play a role in the discussion here.
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Hey thanks, but I don't have the S4 to test it with since i'm still debating on which to get. I live in Canada and so the only version here which I can get a lot cheaper on a contract is LTE snapdragon, but I wont mind getting the Exynos since it got potential. Besides 16GB internal isn't enough for me. So that's why asking if u seen any improvements in battery when only cortex a7 ran? If a7 doesn't do much in power consumption, then no point spending 800 bucks and loosing LTE altogether...
@bala_gamer please see my PM its important...
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Oh wow. Just got word (without further in-depth explanation) that this might actually be a hardware limitation. Coming from a reliable source.
No words...
AndreiLux said:
Oh wow. Just got word (without further in-depth explanation) that this might actually be a hardware limitation. Coming from a reliable source.
No words...
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Can you elaborate a bit more pls?
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that's not what samsung exynos advertised..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6UNODPHAHo
Is it possible that we're having a simpler Exynos 5 system technically closer to Exynis 5 Quad (plus 4 A7 cores) than a real seamless Octa-core system? It was strange reading that "Octa-core manufacturing starts in Q2" (April-June) then see Octa-core versions hitting reviewers early April, that's way too low time frame. Maybe this is a 1st-gen 5410. In any case, performance and current-state battery life beats the Snapdragon version, even if only just.
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Basically the CPU is running on the cluster migration driver,
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wtf? Well done Samsung... This is ridiculous...
AndreiLux said:
Oh wow. Just got word (without further in-depth explanation) that this might actually be a hardware limitation. Coming from a reliable source.
No words...
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WHAT THE [email protected]??!!
Actually WTF is a massive understatement here....!!!
Please can you give more info about this matter whenever is possible? This is very serious...
Is it a specific hardware limitation? Something that Samsung specificly did in GS4 (I9500) ?
Because this can't be a generic exynos octa limitation. It makes no sense... Unless everything we've read from Samsung and ARM about exynos octa, are completely misleading...
A hardware limitation..? They advertised the functionality and to then release a device without it, is just plain stupid. Hopefully it is a just a kernel issue and can be resolved quickly.
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Probably Samsung will implement it in their Note 3 device? It's a conspiracy so that people buy their next Note phone but this news is sad.
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Now what is this all about? Is this a very serious issue?
So its either all A15s or all A7s?
so would the 'octa' really be a better choice than the S600? That should be powerful enough.. and the S600 is pretty power efficient too
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So its either all A15s or all A7s?
so would the 'octa' really be a better choice than the S600? That should be powerful enough.. and the S600 is pretty power efficient too
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What I understood is its either the full cluster of a7 or a15 is used/ functional based on the load, dynamically turning on one or two cores of a15 to work along with a7 may not be possible it seems.
I may be wrong, waiting for an elaborate exp from andrei
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What I understood is its either the full cluster of a7 or a15 is used functional based on the load, dynamically turning on one or two cores of a15 to work along with a7 may not be possible it seems.
I may be wrong, waiting for an elaborate exp from andrei
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I was always under the impression this was the intention of Samsung's particular implementation of it. I thought it was common knowledge that Samsung's version worked on a 4 or 4 (A15) or (A7) basis.
Maybe he was talking about the ability to change that.
Recently I found a special edition of n8010 called engerneering edition or something,
It differs from the general n8010,it has a exynos 4410 dual-core CPU and only 1g ram.
(general edition has exynos 4412,Quad-core CPU and 2g ram, else are the same)
Now it has a system of android 4.0.3,every ROM for general n8010 dosen't work on this one.(A poor guy has tried this,and,thanks th him~!)
so I wanna know if I'd use android 4.0.4 or higher version,how?
Is it easy for ROM modifing?
Well,plz ignore my poor English~~
Smells like a Fake or Clone to me .
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Smells like a Fake or Clone to me .
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Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Well,one of them I know,is reselled electronic waste with a terrible shell.So I think it almost impossible to be a fake one.
The one with perfect shell is about 180 USD,or 1100 rmb.
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Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power. There were huge issues with its speed. I think it might have been sold to one test market or maybe just there testers. Anyway samsung then decided to NOT sell the device. The upgraded the cpu ram and a used faster memory and that is the one that we all have .
I do not remember all of the details but the above could be somewhat incorrect. I DO know there was a dual core 1 gb version that never made it to mass production . So that note seems to be one of them
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Yes that's it.The seller told me the same thing.He said that They're exactly for test use,and he got them by some ways.
If ROM modifing for specified CPU is easy,maybe I'll consider to get one~
May this pic help you.
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Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power
I read it as a bought product .
But yes there have always been test products floating around or Sales Demo models .
The kernel on this one suggests it is one of the test jobs .
Multiple users bought S3 demo model that had no network .
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JJEgan said:
erica_renee said:
Its Likely real.. Samsung created a version of the Note 10.1 with alot less power
I read it as a bought product .
But yes there have always been test products floating around or Sales Demo models .
The kernel on this one suggests it is one of the test jobs .
Multiple users bought S3 demo model that had no network .
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I bought a Nexus7 II just now,happying~
I love Google! I love ASUS~~
Well,it's not cheap for that version of N8010,even if it's real.
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Hello comunity!
First: Sorry for my bad english.
2nd: I've had found the sources from the mt6797 which is build in the redmi note 4 MTK. Is this enought for building a AOSP rom ?
There's the link: https://github.com/MT6797?tab=repositories
venor sources: https://gitlab.com/mt6797/vendor
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Hello comunity!
First: Sorry for my bad english.
2nd: I've had found the sources from the mt6797 which is build in the redmi note 4 MTK. Is this enought for building a AOSP rom ?
There's the link: https://github.com/MT6797?tab=repositories
venor sources: https://gitlab.com/mt6797/vendor
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No.
Mediatek + Xiaomi = No support, no kernel, nothing. Just deal with it. Trust me, I've been there. I had RN2. Ditched it after year.
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No.
Mediatek + Xiaomi = No support, no kernel, nothing. Just deal with it. Trust me, I've been there. I had RN2. Ditched it after year.
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mhm thats a REAL shame :/ but thanks for answer
Don't you think the developers who know how to develop AOSP already know? They are WAY ahead of you. If you checked the dev forum instead of being lazy you would see that there is already an alpha of CyanogenMod 14.1 which is built from sourcecode.
The problem is not MTK sources, it's Redmi Note 4 sources. Drivers for the camera and the fingerprint reader and stuff like that.
Sorry if you think I'm being rude, but this is borderline a troll/spam thread. You get people half excited from the title then share a repo link that any child could find in Google.
Please leave the development to the developers.
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No.
Mediatek + Xiaomi = No support, no kernel, nothing. Just deal with it. Trust me, I've been there. I had RN2. Ditched it after year.
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And yet you decided to try your luck and get another MTK device?
Most of us are aware that getting an MTK device means no AOSP. We get them because they have a high price-to-performance ratio.
Personally I am glad to move away from the Xperia series; it had every AOSP fork under the sun being made for it but they were ALL buggy. It's just torture. If you really want that kind of developer stuff, you should get a Google device.
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Don't you think the developers who know how to develop AOSP already know? They are WAY ahead of you. If you checked the dev forum instead of being lazy you would see that there is already an alpha of CyanogenMod 14.1 which is built from sourcecode.
The problem is not MTK sources, it's Redmi Note 4 sources. Drivers for the camera and the fingerprint reader and stuff like that.
Sorry if you think I'm being rude, but this is borderline a troll/spam thread. You get people half excited from the title then share a repo link that any child could find in Google.
Please leave the development to the developers.
And yet you decided to try your luck and get another MTK device?
Most of us are aware that getting an MTK device means no AOSP. We get them because they have a high price-to-performance ratio.
Personally I am glad to move away from the Xperia series; it had every AOSP fork under the sun being made for it but they were ALL buggy. It's just torture. If you really want that kind of developer stuff, you should get a Google device.
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thanks for you answer,
I really didnt know that .. I thought with the SoC sources the drivers are allready included .. but okey, thanks anyway
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And yet you decided to try your luck and get another MTK device?
Most of us are aware that getting an MTK device means no AOSP. We get them because they have a high price-to-performance ratio.
Personally I am glad to move away from the Xperia series; it had every AOSP fork under the sun being made for it but they were ALL buggy. It's just torture. If you really want that kind of developer stuff, you should get a Google device.
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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Actually you said "We"
1. nominative plural of*I.
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others):
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/we
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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I mean if anything the Qualcomm variant is the dissapointing one, why would you buy it over the Redmi note 3 with a much faster processor and more rom support is beyond me.
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Actually you said "We"
1. nominative plural of*I.
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others):
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/we
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What?
I didn't use word "We" in any of my posts. Is this reply for @CosmicDan?
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I mean if anything the Qualcomm variant is the dissapointing one, why would you buy it over the Redmi note 3 with a much faster processor and more rom support is beyond me.
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It may be faster, but it's not better overall. SD 625 is based on newer architecture (14nm) which makes it cooler in load and offer your phone much better battery life. If you don't do serious gaming, the difference in speed is not even noticable (Also SD 650 is gonna throttling much sooner because of higher temperatures, which is point where SD 625 can match it's performance). And about ROMs... You can't be serious! RN3 Pro is year older than RN4X, which is still new device. Of course more people have it therefore more people develop for it. Give it some time, and RN4X gonna excede RN3Pro (even now there is developement for all ROM's I'm interested in and a lot more). Also 625 is newer than 650 so it's gonna be supported longer.
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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Oh sorry, I just assumed you had the MTK version because... well.. THIS IS THE MTK SUBFORUM.
You come in here and trash-talk a device/chipset you don't even have, and expect us to value your opinion? Please.
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What?
I didn't use word "We" in any of my posts. Is this reply for @CosmicDan?
It may be faster, but it's not better overall. SD 625 is based on newer architecture (14nm) which makes it cooler in load and offer your phone much better battery life. If you don't do serious gaming, the difference in speed is not even noticable (Also SD 650 is gonna throttling much sooner because of higher temperatures, which is point where SD 625 can match it's performance). And about ROMs... You can't be serious! RN3 Pro is year older than RN4X, which is still new device. Of course more people have it therefore more people develop for it. Give it some time, and RN4X gonna excede RN3Pro (even now there is developement for all ROM's I'm interested in and a lot more). Also 625 is newer than 650 so it's gonna be supported longer.
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"Better" is subjective. For starters, my X20 Note 4 does not overheat (in fact this is the first I've ever heard about thermal issues on this thing). Secondly, battery life is a non-issue for me - I get ~5 hours SoT which is more than enough to last me a whole day, even two or three if I don't get to charge one night for whatever reason.
The SD is actually probably the same in gaming sine the MTK GPU is underpowered, but in the CPU department the Helio X20 beats the pants off of the SD. You say the speed is not noticeable yet you just admitted you don't even have a Note 4 MTK variant so how do you know? The numbers speak for themselves - the Geekbench score is just too big for it to not be noticeable when under load.
ROM's are a moot point, they don't interest me - only an idiot (or, I suppose, a former fan who regrets their purchase) buys a Xiaomi device and gets rid of MIUI. You can get a Nexus or last-gen Xperia device or whatever for cheaper if you want that crap.
Anyway, you said you don't even have an MTK device, yet you're in here criticizing it, that's like a perfect example of trolling. I'm unsubbing, not gonna waste my time on this anymore.
Personally, I got the Note 4 at the time (right near launch) because I needed a new phone RIGHT NOW, I wasn't going to wait ~6 months for a device that's the same price and only a little bit better - if I waited six months I could of saved more and gotten a high end device. But the SD variant only has two things going for it - better battery life, and support for non-MIUI ROM's - two things that I and many others don't need.
You Said it all Dan..but many users think they know better...
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CosmicDan said:
Oh sorry, I just assumed you had the MTK version because... well.. THIS IS THE MTK SUBFORUM.
You come in here and trash-talk a device/chipset you don't even have, and expect us to value your opinion? Please.
"Better" is subjective. For starters, my X20 Note 4 does not overheat (in fact this is the first I've ever heard about thermal issues on this thing). Secondly, battery life is a non-issue for me - I get ~5 hours SoT which is more than enough to last me a whole day, even two or three if I don't get to charge one night for whatever reason.
The SD is actually probably the same in gaming sine the MTK GPU is underpowered, but in the CPU department the Helio X20 beats the pants off of the SD. You say the speed is not noticeable yet you just admitted you don't even have a Note 4 MTK variant so how do you know? The numbers speak for themselves - the Geekbench score is just too big for it to not be noticeable when under load.
ROM's are a moot point, they don't interest me - only an idiot (or, I suppose, a former fan who regrets their purchase) buys a Xiaomi device and gets rid of MIUI. You can get a Nexus or last-gen Xperia device or whatever for cheaper if you want that crap.
Anyway, you said you don't even have an MTK device, yet you're in here criticizing it, that's like a perfect example of trolling. I'm unsubbing, not gonna waste my time on this anymore.
Personally, I got the Note 4 at the time (right near launch) because I needed a new phone RIGHT NOW, I wasn't going to wait ~6 months for a device that's the same price and only a little bit better - if I waited six months I could of saved more and gotten a high end device. But the SD variant only has two things going for it - better battery life, and support for non-MIUI ROM's - two things that I and many others don't need.
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You should read more and write less. I was comparing SD 650 and SD 625. Didn't even mention MTK or RN4 (nikel). So your whole post is actually pointless.
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You should read more and write less. I was comparing SD 650 and SD 625. Didn't even mention MTK or RN4 (nikel). So your whole post is actually pointless.
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You were comparing SD chipset in the wrong thread. This is a Mediatek subforum. So actually, his post is not pointless.
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You were comparing SD chipset in the wrong thread. This is a Mediatek subforum. So actually, his post is not pointless.
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True. It was OT, but I just responded to someone else's comment. Didn't come with it on my own.
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Don't you think the developers who know how to develop AOSP already know? They are WAY ahead of you. If you checked the dev forum instead of being lazy you would see that there is already an alpha of CyanogenMod 14.1 which is built from sourcecode.
The problem is not MTK sources, it's Redmi Note 4 sources. Drivers for the camera and the fingerprint reader and stuff like that.
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OK let me get this straight. The culprit here is xiaomi and not mediatek for not releasing sources? Is there any chance xiaomi will release sources? How come snapdragon note 4 has so many roms? Does that mean xiaomi has released sources for it? Has mediatek released sources for this device? Sorry for asking
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OK let me get this straight. The culprit here is xiaomi and not mediatek for not releasing sources? Is there any chance xiaomi will release sources? How come snapdragon note 4 has so many roms? Does that mean xiaomi has released sources for it? Has mediatek released sources for this device? Sorry for asking
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Neither note 4 has official source from Xiaomi. Difference is that Snapdragon devices can be made to boot from CAF source from Qualcomm due to sheer experience, and the same has not been accomplished with Mediatek's Helio X20 source. That and xda has a massssssssuve preference towards Qualcomm anyways due to repeat positive experiences, so most developers spend the time on Qualcomm devices.
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Oh sorry, I just assumed you had the MTK version because... well.. THIS IS THE MTK SUBFORUM.
You come in here and trash-talk a device/chipset you don't even have, and expect us to value your opinion? Please.
"Better" is subjective. For starters, my X20 Note 4 does not overheat (in fact this is the first I've ever heard about thermal issues on this thing). Secondly, battery life is a non-issue for me - I get ~5 hours SoT which is more than enough to last me a whole day, even two or three if I don't get to charge one night for whatever reason.
The SD is actually probably the same in gaming sine the MTK GPU is underpowered, but in the CPU department the Helio X20 beats the pants off of the SD. You say the speed is not noticeable yet you just admitted you don't even have a Note 4 MTK variant so how do you know? The numbers speak for themselves - the Geekbench score is just too big for it to not be noticeable when under load.
ROM's are a moot point, they don't interest me - only an idiot (or, I suppose, a former fan who regrets their purchase) buys a Xiaomi device and gets rid of MIUI. You can get a Nexus or last-gen Xperia device or whatever for cheaper if you want that crap.
Anyway, you said you don't even have an MTK device, yet you're in here criticizing it, that's like a perfect example of trolling. I'm unsubbing, not gonna waste my time on this anymore.
Personally, I got the Note 4 at the time (right near launch) because I needed a new phone RIGHT NOW, I wasn't going to wait ~6 months for a device that's the same price and only a little bit better - if I waited six months I could of saved more and gotten a high end device. But the SD variant only has two things going for it - better battery life, and support for non-MIUI ROM's - two things that I and many others don't need.
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I Agree 100%, i have MTK and my girl SD, MTK RULES!!!
adrxano said:
OK let me get this straight. The culprit here is xiaomi and not mediatek for not releasing sources? Is there any chance xiaomi will release sources? How come snapdragon note 4 has so many roms? Does that mean xiaomi has released sources for it? Has mediatek released sources for this device? Sorry for asking
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Do you not know that the combo of cpu, camera, soc, on the redmi note 4 is simillar to a lot of other androids lol. And those other androids have their sources released. You know where jm going with this. Redmi note 4 snapdragon having a lot of custom roms is in no way a big thanks to the redmi note ⁴ community itself. Get real.
personally I dislike miui as it has no support for advanced USB OTG features such as gamepad compatibility or being used as a usb keyboard/touchpad mouse for your pc . though at least the MTK chipset on this phone supports 10bit h265 and vp9 which makes it good for long trips. provided most of your trip isn't in direct sunlight.
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personally I dislike miui as it has no support for advanced USB OTG features such as gamepad compatibility or being used as a usb keyboard/touchpad mouse for your pc . though at least the MTK chipset on this phone supports 10bit h265 and vp9 which makes it good for long trips. provided most of your trip isn't in direct sunlight.
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hmm MTK Note4 Support advanced OTG, eyboard, mouse and my soudcard (Soundbalster USB XiFi works fine)
Hey guy's. I'm looking to buy a new phone but I can decide which one to buy. Currently I'm looking at the Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 and the Huawei P10 Lite. Factors that will influence my choice is battery life, overall performance(I hate phones that lags/slow), gaming performance and the camera.
So please help. Thanks.
DieBill said:
Hey guy's. I'm looking to buy a new phone but I can decide which one to buy. Currently I'm looking at the Samsung Galaxy A5 2017 and the Huawei P10 Lite. Factors that will influence my choice is battery life, overall performance(I hate phones that lags/slow), gaming performance and the camera.
So please help. Thanks.
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hey diebill , well both the devices are nice. Samsung has a better camera than that of huwae , samsung's well know for its camera and for its lagness! But now the things have changed the new devices doesnt lag anymore. I would prefer huawei than samsung because it supports fast charging , receives OTA updates (whereas samsung doesnt thats why most users have to root their devices) , and talking about the battery , both the devices have 3000mah battery which is pretty nice but if you live in india than huawei is not the phone for you , it dosnt support indian 4G bands. Huawei is faster than samsung, huawei has a 2.15GHZ octa-core processor wheras samsung have 1.9GHZ octa-core processor , huawei has a ram of 4 gb whereas samsung has 3gb , so in overall performance huawei is better than samsung and I think that u should go with huawei .
ayu321 said:
hey diebill , well both the devices are nice. Samsung has a better camera than that of huwae , samsung's well know for its camera and for its lagness! But now the things have changed the new devices doesnt lag anymore. I would prefer huawei than samsung because it supports fast charging , receives OTA updates (whereas samsung doesnt thats why most users have to root their devices) , and talking about the battery , both the devices have 3000mah battery which is pretty nice but if you live in india than huawei is not the phone for you , it dosnt support indian 4G bands. Huawei is faster than samsung, huawei has a 2.15GHZ octa-core processor wheras samsung have 1.9GHZ octa-core processor , huawei has a ram of 4 gb whereas samsung has 3gb , so in overall performance huawei is better than samsung and I think that u should go with huawei .
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Thank you for the great info. I also done some research and did find that the A5 still use the Android 6.0.1 and the P10 Lite uses Android 7.0
For reducing the amount of unnecessary clutte the thread got closed since there already is an established "which device shall I buy?" thread. Please continue your discussion over there.
Hi guys, I think it's time to update my xz1 compact, and the s10e seems like the perfect successor!
I've been reading online review and all seem to point to the Snapdragon version being better than exynos in almost everything. The only downside would be the lack of rooting as far as I can tell.
I'm currently in Dubai so the version sold here is the Exynos. It's pretty cheap here but I was thinking of ordering the Chinese version (SM-G9700) online even if it costs $100 more. Does that make sense??
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Well I did it for 2 reasons:
Support for dual band GNSS
Better battery
dragonii said:
Well I did it for 2 reasons:
Support for dual band GNSS
Better battery
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Is it really dual band GNSS, do you have test it?
Don't have the phone yet but Goggle it and you'll find some articles on the fact that the Snapdragon 855 has support for it but apparently it has been disabled on US versions of it but not on the Hongkong/Chinese variants.
DavidSnake said:
Hi guys, I think it's time to update my xz1 compact, and the s10e seems like the perfect successor!
I've been reading online review and all seem to point to the Snapdragon version being better than exynos in almost everything. The only downside would be the lack of rooting as far as I can tell.
I'm currently in Dubai so the version sold here is the Exynos. It's pretty cheap here but I was thinking of ordering the Chinese version (SM-G9700) online even if it costs $100 more. Does that make sense??
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Same , mainly for battery life. Did you get it ?
So the battery life of the snapdragon version of the G970 is better? Because of better CPU power consumption? What are the other differences?
I am about to upgrade from a Note 4 and am unsure if there will be custom ROMs for either of the versions. Note4 almost only Snapdragon has custom, here it´s stated that Exynos will be having better support. Am a little confused if and which version I should take.
Thanks for any clarification...
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Is it really dual band GNSS, do you have test it?
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I have the Hongkong version and can confirm that it has dual frequency GNSS.
Zotho said:
So the battery life of the snapdragon version of the G970 is better? Because of better CPU power consumption? What are the other differences?
I am about to upgrade from a Note 4 and am unsure if there will be custom ROMs for either of the versions. Note4 almost only Snapdragon has custom, here it´s stated that Exynos will be having better support. Am a little confused if and which version I should take.
Thanks for any clarification...
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I don't know if the battery is better as you find different infos from different users. For me it lasts similar to the S9 I had before, may be 15% more.
But I'm very happy with the overall performance as you can see from the Antutu values...
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I have the Hongkong version and can confirm that it has dual frequency GNSS.
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Thanks for the info.