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What is all the obsession over dual core phones?

I have to ask: Why does everyone want a dual core phone which cant even currently be used?
I say it cant be used because dual core processors cant be used on Android 2.3 Gingerbread/Linux kernel 2.6.35, there is only multi-core processor support in A3H/L2.6.36 (only avaliable (officially) on tablets). We will see problably support in in "A4I"/"L3.6.37" for both phones and tablets.
So whats everyones obsession? The only thing you are problably gaining is a SLIGHT speed boost (not even close when a kernal that supports it is released) and more battery drain.
On a counterside this could bring good marketing to Google: They release "A4I", current dual core phones get a HUGE speed boost and everyone praises Google. Could work good for them.

Interesting, I never knew Gingerbread couldn't support dual cores on phones. Good info, I guess I'll keep my Evo for another year.

It's pretty easy to compile the kernel to use multi core processors. The current one may not, but hold your judgement until it's actually released.

crazy25000 said:
It's pretty easy to compile the kernel to use multi core processors. The current one may not, but hold your judgement until it's actually released.
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So true............. Currently 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of users AND developers of applications can and are willing to complie a custom kernel not used by the rest and use/make multi core supported applications with its multi core supported kernel.

I guess progress has to begin somewhere?

i don't think i'll ever need / want a dual core phone for my daily rutine, my SGS is perfect for me, what more could you need from a phone? don't think they'll be able to fit jet packs on them any time soon...

riahc3 said:
So true............. Currently 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of users AND developers of applications can and are willing to complie a custom kernel not used by the rest and use/make multi core supported applications with its multi core supported kernel.
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What I'm saying is the kernel can easily be compiled by Google or Samsung and used as the stock kernel on the GSII.

maranello69 said:
i don't think i'll ever need / want a dual core phone for my daily rutine, my SGS is perfect for me, what more could you need from a phone? don't think they'll be able to fit jet packs on them any time soon...
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Yeah its logical to think like that but 3 years ago who thought you need phone with such big screen and processor/RAM almost match PC speed?
As someone said somewhere they have to start but interesting thought by thread creator

ksavai said:
Yeah its logical to think like that but 3 years ago who thought you need phone with such big screen and processor/RAM almost match PC speed?
As someone said somewhere they have to start but interesting thought by thread creator
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Honestly those arent needs either. But as of right now the only purpose of a dual core phone is to brag.

Official Cyanogenmod 11 nightlies released

It looks like bunch of devices are getting cm 11 now in nightlies, I figure porting one of them to our devices will only be a matter of time.Official CyanogenMod site http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly and xda news link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-many-devices-4-4-1-based-builds-by-tomorrow/
new Aosp code commits
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/browse-every-new-aosp-code-commit-in-android-4-4-1/

Dice1212 said:
It looks like bunch of devices are getting cm 11 now in nightlies, I figure porting one of them to our devices will only be a matter of time.Official CyanogenMod site http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly and xda news link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-many-devices-4-4-1-based-builds-by-tomorrow/
new Aosp code commits
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/browse-every-new-aosp-code-commit-in-android-4-4-1/
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TeamCanjica is on it... Just wait.

Samsung Galaxy S get official cm11.Why not us too?

Because our device is not popular.

Nice
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Force said:
Samsung Galaxy S get official cm11.Why not us too?
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You are long enough on this forum to know that I9000 has LOT more users and devs then our phone.

so when I read titles and delivery and stumble upon things like .... I feel like I would have thrown in an empty pool haha
pray: janice team is working on this. only there to wait

shut_down said:
You are long enough on this forum to know that I9000 has LOT more users and devs then our phone.
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I didnt knew that I9000 has more developers,also i didnt knew that our phone is not so popular,my mistake

Force said:
I didnt knew that I9000 has more developers,also i didnt knew that is our phone is not so popular,my mistake
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.

shut_down58863 said:
For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones

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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones [/QUOTE]
Good words man, i think that a 5" display is reallyannoying to use because u can't bring with you freely cuz he's really too big! The new 8core are really useless, some galaxy s4 are getting some lags in touchwiz, our telephone not!

Force said:
I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones
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Paragraph 1: Our phone is being discontinued already, slowly but it's happening. Thankfully, Team Canjica helps us to take way more advantage of this 768Mb of RAM and 1GHz out of this comfortable 4" screen.
Paragraph 2: You're right but most of the flagships have software features that make them "smart" in a certain way. GS4 has features like Smart Stay and Air Gestures that make it way more useful than generic phones with more specs that just improve perfomance a bit more than needed without any other useful purpose, Moto X goes maybe for busy people that don't have the time to execute those time-consuming tasks that thankfully are shorten considerably depending on those features. Xperia Z1 goes for picture quality and a tad more for sound quality as the HTC One. It mostly depends of each phone. Not every phablet is useless. And about specs increase over time, it's just tech "evolving".
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AnMotass said:
Paragraph 1: Our phone is being Taskedtinued already, slowly but it's happening. Thankfully, Team Canjica helps us to take way more advantage of this 768Mb of RAM and 1GHz out of this comfortable 4" screen.
Paragraph 2: You're right but most of the flagships have software features that make them "smart" in a certain way. GS4 has features like Smart Stay and Air Gestures that make it way more useful than generic phones with more specs that just improve perfomance a bit more than needed without any other useful purpose, Moto X goes maybe for busy people that don't have the time to execute those time-consuming tasks that thankfully are shorten considerably depending on those features. Xperia Z1 goes for picture quality and a tad more for sound quality as the HTC One. It mostly depends of each phone. Not every phablet is useless. And about specs increase over time, it's just tech "evolving".
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Features like Smart Alert,Air gestures can be done with Tasker...Now I stop to talk about these because thread is about cm

CAF vs NON CAF ?

So i've got my phone like lets say 5months running thought 30non-caf roms..
But is there any difference at all between caf and non ? and what are the wins and lose against those 2 things ?
can someone explain in a short story ? and how do i flash for example CAF on a non caf phone?

Kcetin20 said:
So i've got my phone like lets say 5months running thought 30non-caf roms..
But is there any difference at all between caf and non ? and what are the wins and lose against those 2 things ?
can someone explain in a short story ? and how do i flash for example CAF on a non caf phone?
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Bless your heart, I found out what the difference between hammerhead and hammerheadcaf by doing a Google search on my phone. It's something that I was wondering about myself because I had been seeing both the CAF and non-CAF versions of ROMs. If you have CPU-Z installed on your phone, you can find out which version you have when you run it. If you don't have it installed, go to the Google Play Store and get it. Just put CPU-Z in the search field and it should bring it up. It's a free download and a very helpful app to have on your phone. Just a word to the wise, flashing hammerheadcaf ROMs on a hammerhead phone is not a good idea at all unless you want to deal with unexpected issues with your phone.
Hammerhead phones have a Qualcomm processor. Hammerheadcaf phones have a Snapdragon processor.
I hope that I was able to help you out here.
Cindy
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

cindylike24 said:
Bless your heart, I found out what the difference between hammerhead and hammerheadcaf by doing a Google search on my phone. It's something that I was wondering about myself because I had been seeing both the CAF and non-CAF versions of ROMs. If you have CPU-Z installed on your phone, you can find out which version you have when you run it. If you don't have it installed, go to the Google Play Store and get it. Just put CPU-Z in the search field and it should bring it up. It's a free download and a very helpful app to have on your phone. Just a word to the wise, flashing hammerheadcaf ROMs on a hammerhead phone is not a good idea at all unless you want to deal with unexpected issues with your phone.
Hammerhead phones have a Qualcomm processor. Hammerheadcaf phones have a Snapdragon processor.
I hope that I was able to help you out here.
Cindy
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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You are annoyingly wrong!!! Snapdragon is the SOC lineup of Qualcomm!

cindylike24 said:
Bless your heart, I found out what the difference between hammerhead and hammerheadcaf by doing a Google search on my phone. It's something that I was wondering about myself because I had been seeing both the CAF and non-CAF versions of ROMs. If you have CPU-Z installed on your phone, you can find out which version you have when you run it. If you don't have it installed, go to the Google Play Store and get it. Just put CPU-Z in the search field and it should bring it up. It's a free download and a very helpful app to have on your phone. Just a word to the wise, flashing hammerheadcaf ROMs on a hammerhead phone is not a good idea at all unless you want to deal with unexpected issues with your phone.
Hammerhead phones have a Qualcomm processor. Hammerheadcaf phones have a Snapdragon processor.
I hope that I was able to help you out here.
Cindy
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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I can totally understand that you just wanted to help, but....duuuuuude, I'm so sorry, but do you even google?
To clarify a few things here (and get that topic done): I will try to stay clear and simple (probably even oversimplifying, but whatever)
1. Qualcomm Inc. makes (mobile) processors based on designs by ARM. They have certain lineups, with Snapdragon Processors being their consumer-grade line of mobile processors.
The SoC (system on a chip, meaning CPU, GPU and co-processors being combined on one chip) in the Nexus 5 is a Snapdragon 800. It's got 4 Krait-400 Cores as it's main processing cores (CPU), an Adreno 330 GPU (graphics processor) and a Hexagon DSP (digital signal processor, enables, amongst other things, audio processing from digital to analogue). Furthermore you have things like an ISP (image signal processor) and certain modems, but that's rather unrelevant.
So every single Nexus 5 in the world runs on a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor. No difference.
2. To get to the OP's question:
To explain the difference between CAF and non-CAF, you first have to understand what CAF even means.
CAF stand for Code Aurora Project. It is a consortium which acts as a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. It has a widespread range of projects, of which Android for MSM being a part of those projects. "MSM" is basically Qualcomms way of labeling it's Snapdragon Processors (the Snapdragon 800 is codenamed MSM8974).
Android for MSM concentrates on bringing enhancements specifically made for Qualcomms Processors to the Linux Kernel. Whenever a manufacturer decides to use a Snapdragon Processor in his Phone/Tablet/Whatever, he forks from the Android Open Source Project and then uses the Code Aurora Forum to get the processor-specific code. So, whenever you have a Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor in you device, it will have at least some parts of code sourced from Android for MSM, and therefore the Code Aurora Forum.
Now, whenever a developer decides to build a ROM for a certain device, he will also fork from the Android Open Source Project. To build a kernel, he will most likely use the kernel source from the manufacturer (if available). As for the Nexus 5, we have AOSP and Google's own kernel source specifically for the Nexus 5. To build it's kernel, Google uses patches from CAF, as they are processor-specific and optimized.
Most ROMs for the Nexus 5 are based on AOSP and Google's kernel source. (A few are based on factory images, but we can neglect that for now).
CAF ROMs however are (mostly) based on the code from CAF. This means it may be better optimized, since the code is very processor-specific, but it's also more on the bleeding-edge-side, since it gets constantly updated (and therefore can contain some bugs here and there). Google only uses parts of it's code from CAF and carefully selects those parts, so it's more on the stable-proofed side.
I hope that kind of answers the question(s) in this thread.
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9h0s7 said:
lmfao this thread is pure gold. gotta be trolling
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I'm definitely not trolling on the forum. I was trying to help the OP out with his question.
milestone2mod said:
I can totally understand that you just wanted to help, but....duuuuuude, I'm so sorry, but do you even google?
To clarify a few things here (and get that topic done): I will try to stay clear and simple (probably even oversimplifying, but whatever)
1. Qualcomm Inc. makes (mobile) processors based on designs by ARM. They have certain lineups, with Snapdragon Processors being their consumer-grade line of mobile processors.
The SoC (system on a chip, meaning CPU, GPU and co-processors being combined on one chip) in the Nexus 5 is a Snapdragon 800. It's got 4 Krait-400 Cores as it's main processing cores (CPU), an Adreno 330 GPU (graphics processor) and a Hexagon DSP (digital signal processor, enables, amongst other things, audio processing from digital to analogue). Furthermore you have things like an ISP (image signal processor) and certain modems, but that's rather unrelevant.
So every single Nexus 5 in the world runs on a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor. No difference.
2. To get to the OP's question:
To explain the difference between CAF and non-CAF, you first have to understand what CAF even means.
CAF stand for Code Aurora Project. It is a consortium which acts as a Linux Foundation Collaborative Project. It has a widespread range of projects, of which Android for MSM being a part of those projects. "MSM" is basically Qualcomms way of labeling it's Snapdragon Processors (the Snapdragon 800 is codenamed MSM8974).
Android for MSM concentrates on bringing enhancements specifically made for Qualcomms Processors to the Linux Kernel. Whenever a manufacturer decides to use a Snapdragon Processor in his Phone/Tablet/Whatever, he forks from the Android Open Source Project and then uses the Code Aurora Forum to get the processor-specific code. So, whenever you have a Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor in you device, it will have at least some parts of code sourced from Android for MSM, and therefore the Code Aurora Forum.
Now, whenever a developer decides to build a ROM for a certain device, he will also fork from the Android Open Source Project. To build a kernel, he will most likely use the kernel source from the manufacturer (if available). As for the Nexus 5, we have AOSP and Google's own kernel source specifically for the Nexus 5. To build it's kernel, Google uses patches from CAF, as they are processor-specific and optimized.
Most ROMs for the Nexus 5 are based on AOSP and Google's kernel source. (A few are based on factory images, but we can neglect that for now).
CAF ROMs however are (mostly) based on the code from CAF. This means it may be better optimized, since the code is very processor-specific, but it's also more on the bleeding-edge-side, since it gets constantly updated (and therefore can contain some bugs here and there). Google only uses parts of it's code from CAF and carefully selects those parts, so it's more on the stable-proofed side.
I hope that kind of answers the question(s) in this thread.
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I'm a lady not a dude here. Yes I did use Google to try and answer the OP's question. I just didn't want to go into the detail that you went into in your post. I was trying to keep it as simple and to the point as I possibly could. Thank you for going into detail on this. Maybe someone will glean something useful out of this in the future.
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I've read, that CAF means that this special hammerhead is a chinese clone of the original LG hammerhead. So NEVER flash a hammerheadcaf-rom an a hammerhead-device or vice versa - it could brick your device totally.
But how to find out if i have an original hammerhead or just a chinese hammerheadcaf? What if i accidently flash the wrong rom? I'm scared of what i just found out!!
lol

cindylike24 said:
I'm definitely not trolling on the forum. I was trying to help the OP out with his question.
I'm a lady not a dude here. Yes I did use Google to try and answer the OP's question. I just didn't want to go into the detail that you went into in your post. I was trying to keep it as simple and to the point as I possibly could. Thank you for going into detail on this. Maybe someone will glean something useful out of this in the future.
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I'm sorry, didn't want to offend you
But, and again, I'm really sorry, but your statement was just completely wrong:
. Just a word to the wise, flashing hammerheadcaf ROMs on a hammerhead phone is not a good idea at all unless you want to deal with unexpected issues with your phone.
Hammerhead phones have a Qualcomm processor. Hammerheadcaf phones have a Snapdragon processor.
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EVERY Nexus 5 is a "hammerhead" device, since hammerhead is just Google's internal codename for this device (such as volantis for Nexus 9 (volantisg for Nexus 9 4G), shamu for Nexus 6, angler for Nexus 6P, bullhead for Nexus 5X and so on...)
So every "hammerhead" phone (read: every Nexus 5) has got a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor. No difference, again.
CyanogenMOD uses hammerhead as their main ROM-branch and hammerheadcaf as the codename for their CAF-based ROM. So whenever you see "hammerheadcaf" it just means that this ROM is based mainly on code from the Code Aurora Forum.
Of course you can flash such a ROM on every Nexus 5, you would just need a CAF-Recovery. So for most people I'd recommend to just stick with "regular" ROMs, if you don't exactly know what you're doing.
I can understand that you wanted to keep it simple, but it wasn't simple, just wrong, I'm afraid. Again, I'm trying not to be rude (and apologies for the dude, mylady). I just don't want false statements floating around here.
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McFlypants said:
I've read, that CAF means that this special hammerhead is a chinese clone of the original LG hammerhead. So NEVER flash a hammerheadcaf-rom an a hammerhead-device or vice versa - it could brick your device totally.
But how to find out if i have an original hammerhead or just a chinese hammerheadcaf? What if i accidently flash the wrong rom? I'm scared of what i just found out!!
lol
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Absolutley wrong, my friend. EVERY Nexus 5 is a "hammerhead". Read my posts above: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65995231&postcount=7
There is no special chinese clone of the Nexus 5. Please don't spread false statements.

If CAF roms were for some special clone they would never get posted on the N5 forums of XDA. I live in China and have seen many clones, but none that resemble a nexus 5. The phone is cheap enough no one would bother cloning it. They like to clone samsungs and iphones.

Wowwww. Awesome. Informatie. Lol. I'm just reading this thread with using hammerheads rom. Just felling guilty with Nexus 5.
Thanks. All tacky. Guys. Newer try to use hammerheadcaf. Moving to hammerhead right now ....?????
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1. Qualcomm Inc. makes (mobile) processors based on designs by ARM. They have certain lineups, with Snapdragon Processors being their consumer-grade line of mobile processors.
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Don't want to Split the hair a lot here. But just to clarify.
Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a Architecture for CPUs similar to Intel's P Series Architecture. This is owned by the Corporation of the same name and licensed to All the manufacturers. Qualcomm and Samsung are one of them. Allwinner, RockChip and AMLogic are some of the others based in China.
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"MSM" is basically Qualcomms way of labeling it's Snapdragon Processors (the Snapdragon 800 is codenamed MSM8974).
Android for MSM concentrates on bringing enhancements specifically made for Qualcomms Processors to the Linux Kernel. Whenever a manufacturer decides to use a Snapdragon Processor in his Phone/Tablet/Whatever, he forks from the Android Open Source Project and then uses the Code Aurora Forum to get the processor-specific code. So, whenever you have a Qualcomm Snapdragon Processor in you device, it will have at least some parts of code sourced from Android for MSM, and therefore the Code Aurora Forum.
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Phone Makers tend to use Google's Mainline Kernel from the AOSP Codebase per Agreement. AOSP is a Project sponsored primarily by Google and they do use that for all Nexus platforms. This is a Fork of Linux.
CAF on the other hand, is a Qualcomm's own Fork and is heavily customized with specific Drivers and Middle layer Code that takes advantage of the CPU's features. Of Course this will not work on Non-Qualcomm SoCs.
FOOTNOTE - I have done some light cleaning in this thread. Thread remains open as this legitimate question does baffle many people. And Alas Google isn't good help unless you know what you're looking for. Please don't make personal Attacks. Thank you.

What a load of nonsense about chinese nockoffs?!?!
ROMs for "hammerhead" are AOSP-based
ROMs for "hammerheadcaf" use code specifically optimized for the Nexus 5 SoC from Code Aurora

Perseus said:
Don't want to Split the hair a lot here. But just to clarify.
Advanced RISC Machine (ARM) is a Architecture for CPUs similar to Intel's P Series Architecture. This is owned by the Corporation of the same name and licensed to All the manufacturers. Qualcomm and Samsung are one of them. Allwinner, RockChip and AMLogic are some of the others based in China.
Phone Makers tend to use Google's Mainline Kernel from the AOSP Codebase per Agreement. AOSP is a Project sponsored primarily by Google and they do use that for all Nexus platforms. This is a Fork of Linux.
CAF on the other hand, is a Qualcomm's own Fork and is heavily customized with specific Drivers and Middle layer Code that takes advantage of the CPU's features. Of Course this will not work on Non-Qualcomm SoCs.
FOOTNOTE - I have done some light cleaning in this thread. Thread remains open as this legitimate question does baffle many people. And Alas Google isn't good help unless you know what you're looking for. Please don't make personal Attacks. Thank you.
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Pretty much Amen.
Perhaps you should do a sticky with all that information (my posts plus your additions) as a go-to source for any interested forum members. This could hold the chance to clarify questions before they're asked (again).

I tested CM14.1 for several days both versions (hammerhead and hammerheadcaf). I didn't notice any difference. Neither in battery life, nor in performance. Am I missing something?

focus-pocus said:
I tested CM14.1 for several days both versions (hammerhead and hammerheadcaf). I didn't notice any difference. Neither in battery life, nor in performance. Am I missing something?
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How did you switch between the caf- and non-caf version of CM14.1?
From what I've googled and deduced so far, you'd first need to flash the appropriate caf- oder non-caf version of TWRP-recovery, boot into the new recovery and wipe system, data and cache and then flash the matching caf- oder non-caf version of CM14.1. Right?

i have a question on this topic.
so on the security side of things, one of the problems using the nexus 5 with an up to date (security-patched) custom rom is that qualcomm does not update the drivers for their old chips anymore. so even if the open source part (aosp) is patched, there will still be bugs in those proprietary drivers which aren't fixed. does the code aurora project help with this problem?
@ kintrupf -- the newest version of twrp for the nexus 5 supports caf as well as standard roms!

kintrupf said:
How did you switch between the caf- and non-caf version of CM14.1?
From what I've googled and deduced so far, you'd first need to flash the appropriate caf- oder non-caf version of TWRP-recovery, boot into the new recovery and wipe system, data and cache and then flash the matching caf- oder non-caf version of CM14.1. Right?
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On latest caf builds (any of it) don't need hammerheadcaf TWRP, it installs now normally on hammerhead recovery.

cindylike24 said:
Hammerhead phones have a Qualcomm processor. Hammerheadcaf phones have a Snapdragon processor.
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I fkined loled hard. Thanks dude. xD

fr3quency said:
I fkined loled hard. Thanks dude. xD
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I'm a lady not a dude.
Cindy
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cindylike24 said:
I'm a lady not a dude.
Cindy
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I think it's cool that you're into this kinda stuff. Hobbies like this are usually sausage parties.
Regardless, like the others have said, Snapdragon is a brand owned by Qualcomm. There are no hammerheadcaf devices, just hammerhead devices. There are, however, hammerheadcaf recoveries, kernels, and ROMs, and then there are regular hammerhead recoveries, kernels, and ROMs. The problem is that is that the parts aren't interchangeable: You need to go everything-CAF or nothing-CAF.
Probably better to just own the mistake, and to ignore that people are speaking to you as if you were a guy (although 'dude' can be a unisex term).

Does no one have a link to a performance test comparing CAF to AOSP? So far, everything I've read has been either subjective or speculative. It's exhausting.

Future Proof & Gaming

I have seen on older videos on internet, that S820(HTC 10,LG G5) outclasses the Exynos 8890. But i have seen Exynos 8890 doing wonders on Vulkan.
And how about Future proof? When Samsung stop releasing softwares for S7 in 1-2years, is there any way to get tot the newer android, knowing that we dont have CM14?
So should i switch my S7 for a S820 Device for gaming and future proof?

Upp

Dont worry about it, you will just get a new phone.

RootNightmareX said:
I have seen on older videos on internet, that S820(HTC 10,LG G5) outclasses the Exynos 8890. But i have seen Exynos 8890 doing wonders on Vulkan.
And how about Future proof? When Samsung stop releasing softwares for S7 in 1-2years, is there any way to get tot the newer android, knowing that we dont have CM14?
So should i switch my S7 for a S820 Device for gaming and future proof?
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>knowing that we don't have CM14
now that's where you're wrong:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s7-t3529197
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/rom-s7-exynose-project-t3526976
Anyway, the 8890 is a great processor and in daily usage it outperforms the SD820

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>knowing that we don't have CM14
now that's where you're wrong:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-unofficial-lineageos-14-1-galaxy-s7-t3529197
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/development/rom-s7-exynose-project-t3526976
Anyway, the 8890 is a great processor and in daily usage it outperforms the SD820
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But s820 is better for gaming?
I mean official support. Is there any s820 devicevi
that has official support for lineage os? Excluding oneplus 3?

ill tell you one i know for sure: samsung phone & future proof are not going together. happy new year!

lekou said:
ill tell you one i know for sure: samsung phone & future proof are not going together. happy new year!
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And the only way that does 2 things go together is as i thought a NEXUS (but even nexus has a lot of problems with hardware problems even though on software it rocks) ?

Lenovo P2 - Nougat Open Source Code released

Looks like Lenovo released MM and Nougat open source code for our phone: http://lenovomobilesupport.lenovo.c...NES/P-SERIES/P2-SMARTPHONE/downloads/DS122001
I hope that developers can use it for making great roms for our phone.

ionutz1122 said:
Looks like Lenovo released MM and Nougat open source code for our phone: http://lenovomobilesupport.lenovo.c...NES/P-SERIES/P2-SMARTPHONE/downloads/DS122001
I hope that developers can use it for making great roms for our phone.
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Wow great news
I hope we see some Development soon

There is a chance for Lineage OS

i cant wait for an official lineage OS for my p2 when it comes i will root immediately.

sam00561 said:
i cant wait for an official lineage OS for my p2 when it comes i will root immediately.
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Same here :good:

Im from asus zenfone 2,the dev over there working hard to make from unofficial build to official.. from cm13 unofficial, then official los 14.. but here,los 13 update seem abit slow..

Great News. Hope some genius got time to make a beast of a custom ROM with overclocking options, kernel tweaks and shtloads of notification sounds. If someone explains a bit I can create our own (vibeui) xda-theme (dark orange) and bootanimations.

Why on earth do you want overclocking!?! It's acceptable if done on lower chips but the marginal overclocked speed boost on highly efficient and powerful SoCs like ours won't give you much other than to show off with benchmark scores.
It has 4Gigs of RAM with an octa core processor with a massive battery... What else do you want in small piece of metal and glass device

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Why on earth do you want overclocking!?! It's acceptable if done on lower chips but the marginal overclocked speed boost on highly efficient and powerful SoCs like ours won't give you much other than to show off with benchmark scores.
It has 4Gigs of RAM with an octa core processor with a massive battery... What else do you want in small piece of metal and glass device
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...higher clocks? (wouldn't be for me, but based on Mr. v. Hattem's post...)

Sad to see the two devs jump ship on this device.
Hope someone will pick it up eventually, the device is too good to let it sit untouched.

Very true.. had it been a mediatek or similar low end device then it's acceptable. But then that's not the case here.

Doesn't Lineage have a request forum for someone to pick up a device to develop like they did with CM Request Forum or they don't do that anymore?

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Doesn't Lineage have a request forum for someone to pick up a device to develop like they did with CM Request Forum or they don't do that anymore?
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https://wiki.lineageos.org/device_requests.html

Yep, would be nice to see some tweaks for our P2s ! Must say the deodexed official isn't too bad though and Xposed will come to Nougat one day

There are very little things I would actually change on the stock ROM. But I did notice some lags while scrolling every now and then which did show me that the device has potential for some software optimization.

Customizing the actions of the HOME button would be nice (like double-click or reallocate a long press).
Also being able to use a Gamepad as the current ROM has a "sticky keys" problem for some reason.

yes i would like to see this ability to scroll through home and other screens by sliding finger across the home button.