Looks like Lenovo released MM and Nougat open source code for our phone: http://lenovomobilesupport.lenovo.c...NES/P-SERIES/P2-SMARTPHONE/downloads/DS122001
I hope that developers can use it for making great roms for our phone.
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Looks like Lenovo released MM and Nougat open source code for our phone: http://lenovomobilesupport.lenovo.c...NES/P-SERIES/P2-SMARTPHONE/downloads/DS122001
I hope that developers can use it for making great roms for our phone.
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Wow great news
I hope we see some Development soon
There is a chance for Lineage OS
i cant wait for an official lineage OS for my p2 when it comes i will root immediately.
sam00561 said:
i cant wait for an official lineage OS for my p2 when it comes i will root immediately.
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Same here :good:
Im from asus zenfone 2,the dev over there working hard to make from unofficial build to official.. from cm13 unofficial, then official los 14.. but here,los 13 update seem abit slow..
Great News. Hope some genius got time to make a beast of a custom ROM with overclocking options, kernel tweaks and shtloads of notification sounds. If someone explains a bit I can create our own (vibeui) xda-theme (dark orange) and bootanimations.
Why on earth do you want overclocking!?! It's acceptable if done on lower chips but the marginal overclocked speed boost on highly efficient and powerful SoCs like ours won't give you much other than to show off with benchmark scores.
It has 4Gigs of RAM with an octa core processor with a massive battery... What else do you want in small piece of metal and glass device
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Why on earth do you want overclocking!?! It's acceptable if done on lower chips but the marginal overclocked speed boost on highly efficient and powerful SoCs like ours won't give you much other than to show off with benchmark scores.
It has 4Gigs of RAM with an octa core processor with a massive battery... What else do you want in small piece of metal and glass device
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...higher clocks? (wouldn't be for me, but based on Mr. v. Hattem's post...)
Sad to see the two devs jump ship on this device.
Hope someone will pick it up eventually, the device is too good to let it sit untouched.
Very true.. had it been a mediatek or similar low end device then it's acceptable. But then that's not the case here.
Doesn't Lineage have a request forum for someone to pick up a device to develop like they did with CM Request Forum or they don't do that anymore?
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Doesn't Lineage have a request forum for someone to pick up a device to develop like they did with CM Request Forum or they don't do that anymore?
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Yep, would be nice to see some tweaks for our P2s ! Must say the deodexed official isn't too bad though and Xposed will come to Nougat one day
There are very little things I would actually change on the stock ROM. But I did notice some lags while scrolling every now and then which did show me that the device has potential for some software optimization.
Customizing the actions of the HOME button would be nice (like double-click or reallocate a long press).
Also being able to use a Gamepad as the current ROM has a "sticky keys" problem for some reason.
yes i would like to see this ability to scroll through home and other screens by sliding finger across the home button.
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I have to ask: Why does everyone want a dual core phone which cant even currently be used?
I say it cant be used because dual core processors cant be used on Android 2.3 Gingerbread/Linux kernel 2.6.35, there is only multi-core processor support in A3H/L2.6.36 (only avaliable (officially) on tablets). We will see problably support in in "A4I"/"L3.6.37" for both phones and tablets.
So whats everyones obsession? The only thing you are problably gaining is a SLIGHT speed boost (not even close when a kernal that supports it is released) and more battery drain.
On a counterside this could bring good marketing to Google: They release "A4I", current dual core phones get a HUGE speed boost and everyone praises Google. Could work good for them.
Interesting, I never knew Gingerbread couldn't support dual cores on phones. Good info, I guess I'll keep my Evo for another year.
It's pretty easy to compile the kernel to use multi core processors. The current one may not, but hold your judgement until it's actually released.
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It's pretty easy to compile the kernel to use multi core processors. The current one may not, but hold your judgement until it's actually released.
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So true............. Currently 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of users AND developers of applications can and are willing to complie a custom kernel not used by the rest and use/make multi core supported applications with its multi core supported kernel.
I guess progress has to begin somewhere?
i don't think i'll ever need / want a dual core phone for my daily rutine, my SGS is perfect for me, what more could you need from a phone? don't think they'll be able to fit jet packs on them any time soon...
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So true............. Currently 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of users AND developers of applications can and are willing to complie a custom kernel not used by the rest and use/make multi core supported applications with its multi core supported kernel.
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What I'm saying is the kernel can easily be compiled by Google or Samsung and used as the stock kernel on the GSII.
maranello69 said:
i don't think i'll ever need / want a dual core phone for my daily rutine, my SGS is perfect for me, what more could you need from a phone? don't think they'll be able to fit jet packs on them any time soon...
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Yeah its logical to think like that but 3 years ago who thought you need phone with such big screen and processor/RAM almost match PC speed?
As someone said somewhere they have to start but interesting thought by thread creator
ksavai said:
Yeah its logical to think like that but 3 years ago who thought you need phone with such big screen and processor/RAM almost match PC speed?
As someone said somewhere they have to start but interesting thought by thread creator
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Honestly those arent needs either. But as of right now the only purpose of a dual core phone is to brag.
Hi!
I own a ZTE U950 and I updated to the latest FW, but no matter what game I play, it has small stutterings every 3-4 sec. I tried a lot of games, even Dead Space that should run like butter, but even that has stuttering every 3-4 sec. The FPS is on the roof, but for reasons unknown it still noticeably stutter every 3-4 sec.
I tried everything...installing previous rom, closing all background applications, disabling auto-rotate, disabling wifi, changing powersave settings, but nothing worked.
It is really annoying that I can not get rid of this micro stuttering. Game running like butter, but picture stops for micro of a second every 3-4 sec.
What is the problem? Is it just that ICS is trash? A phone with Tegra 3 quadcore should not have stutterings like these...I get ~13200 points in Antutu. The ICS version is 4.0.4.
Oo...I'm considering this phone can give some real shot of the u950 n some screenshot to me..how bout battery life?
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Not counting the problem I have, this phone is awesome, well worth the price.
However there is 1 more big problem: no "good" custom roms yet...there are some Chinese custom roms, but they don't really improve performance (I tried at least 6). With a good custom rom and a "gaming kernel" (like the One X has that unlocks the CPU and GPU to it's max potential) this phone would be a must buy.
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Oo...I'm considering this phone can give some real shot of the u950 n some screenshot to me..how bout battery life?
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Here is a review, with test results, screenshots and pictures: ZTE U950 review
Nobody has any idea about my problem ?
op...can share some image shot by the 5mp?
Considering to get one of this.
People reported that it will restart by itself
so it's true?
Got it today ,you must root it and update the rom in order to get rid of some bloatware.secondly there are chinese roms but based on the original so no real tweaking .if a cyanogen was running in this phone was going to be perfect but as i searched on chinese forum most have the basic knoweledge nothing more to build a kernel with mods or aosp .the phone is acceptable for daily usage for its price range.
as for the stutterring on random restart on games consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect.i must also remind that the games were not designed for this resolution as most tegra 3 devices have better resolution.
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Got it today ,you must root it and update the rom in order to get rid of some bloatware.secondly there are chinese roms but based on the original so no real tweaking .if a cyanogen was running in this phone was going to be perfect but as i searched on chinese forum most have the basic knoweledge nothing more to build a kernel with mods or aosp .the phone is acceptable for daily usage for its price range.
as for the stutterring on random restart on games consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect.i must also remind that the games were not designed for this resolution as most tegra 3 devices have better resolution.
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Hey, how did you root and installed recovery? I am trying to find a way to do that in order to install gapps but no luck so far.
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Got it today ,you must root it and update the rom in order to get rid of some bloatware.secondly there are chinese roms but based on the original so no real tweaking .if a cyanogen was running in this phone was going to be perfect but as i searched on chinese forum most have the basic knoweledge nothing more to build a kernel with mods or aosp .the phone is acceptable for daily usage for its price range.
as for the stutterring on random restart on games consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect.i must also remind that the games were not designed for this resolution as most tegra 3 devices have better resolution.
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"consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect"
What app?
Zackconsole said:
op...can share some image shot by the 5mp?
Considering to get one of this.
People reported that it will restart by itself
so it's true?
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You need to update the FW to B22 to fix the restart issue.
A shot with the 5mp camera: click
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"consider using the app released for htc one x to minimalise game settings so they can run perfect"
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/make-games-more-playable-on-the-htc-one-x-with-game-modder/
anyone already changed recovery language to english ? Or localized Rom file without chinese programms?
no unfortunate no dev has this device yet ,hope at least for a stable recovery and rom
Allright people, time to get this baby, a shop has it on sale for $170 (with free world wide shipping): ZTE U950 $170 Can't beat a price like that for a Tegra 3 device. Hope a dev will pick it up, this thing really needs some home made roms.
lower price
There is another choice for only 155$ at this exact site. :good:
i found on this page some roms
try this tool for translation of the roms
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i found on this page some roms
try this tool for translation of the roms
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Thank you for sharing the infos
Best regards
It looks like bunch of devices are getting cm 11 now in nightlies, I figure porting one of them to our devices will only be a matter of time.Official CyanogenMod site http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly and xda news link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-many-devices-4-4-1-based-builds-by-tomorrow/
new Aosp code commits
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/browse-every-new-aosp-code-commit-in-android-4-4-1/
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It looks like bunch of devices are getting cm 11 now in nightlies, I figure porting one of them to our devices will only be a matter of time.Official CyanogenMod site http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly and xda news link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-many-devices-4-4-1-based-builds-by-tomorrow/
new Aosp code commits
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/browse-every-new-aosp-code-commit-in-android-4-4-1/
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TeamCanjica is on it... Just wait.
Samsung Galaxy S get official cm11.Why not us too?
Because our device is not popular.
Nice
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Samsung Galaxy S get official cm11.Why not us too?
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You are long enough on this forum to know that I9000 has LOT more users and devs then our phone.
so when I read titles and delivery and stumble upon things like .... I feel like I would have thrown in an empty pool haha
pray: janice team is working on this. only there to wait
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You are long enough on this forum to know that I9000 has LOT more users and devs then our phone.
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I didnt knew that I9000 has more developers,also i didnt knew that our phone is not so popular,my mistake
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I didnt knew that I9000 has more developers,also i didnt knew that is our phone is not so popular,my mistake
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones
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For comparison, we have about 110 threads in both developer sections. And I9000 has 1,832 threads in developer section.
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones [/QUOTE]
Good words man, i think that a 5" display is reallyannoying to use because u can't bring with you freely cuz he's really too big! The new 8core are really useless, some galaxy s4 are getting some lags in touchwiz, our telephone not!
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I hope more developers come here to develop and help our device.Team Canjica is best team in this forum which help our phone.
Off topic: Phone is made for chat:calls and messages and some games.But producters release phones with display over 5",with quadcore processors or octa core.Phone are gonna to have processor with over 8 cores and nvidia geforce at video and we will play gta 5 lol. Is called PHONE not COMPUTER. Smartphone should have a processor with 1.8 GHz max and Mali400, Mali 400MP or Adreno 305 maxim at graphic and display between 4" and 5" maxim. A smartphone should be SMART.Having big display,processors not make a phone smart. Producers must stop making smartphones with big displays and processors because make nonsense (also making phone with flexible or curved display make nonsense). Features like answer calls by saying "Answer" or by waving hand etc. ,these make a phone smart. I always was thinking to buy new smartphones (which are also popular) which have big display and big processors,make nonsense.I was thinking to buy nexus 4,but for what? Just a more big display and processor? I will be able just to play more new games without lag,but computer is for games not phone.In this moment,Tasked app can make a smartphone really smart.Thanks to the guy which made this awesome app.
So,I never sell my Galaxy S Advance for other phones until he die And maybe after he die I buy another galaxy s advance I love my phone and I'm satisfied with it.You made me to say my opinion about smartphones
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Paragraph 1: Our phone is being discontinued already, slowly but it's happening. Thankfully, Team Canjica helps us to take way more advantage of this 768Mb of RAM and 1GHz out of this comfortable 4" screen.
Paragraph 2: You're right but most of the flagships have software features that make them "smart" in a certain way. GS4 has features like Smart Stay and Air Gestures that make it way more useful than generic phones with more specs that just improve perfomance a bit more than needed without any other useful purpose, Moto X goes maybe for busy people that don't have the time to execute those time-consuming tasks that thankfully are shorten considerably depending on those features. Xperia Z1 goes for picture quality and a tad more for sound quality as the HTC One. It mostly depends of each phone. Not every phablet is useless. And about specs increase over time, it's just tech "evolving".
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Paragraph 1: Our phone is being Taskedtinued already, slowly but it's happening. Thankfully, Team Canjica helps us to take way more advantage of this 768Mb of RAM and 1GHz out of this comfortable 4" screen.
Paragraph 2: You're right but most of the flagships have software features that make them "smart" in a certain way. GS4 has features like Smart Stay and Air Gestures that make it way more useful than generic phones with more specs that just improve perfomance a bit more than needed without any other useful purpose, Moto X goes maybe for busy people that don't have the time to execute those time-consuming tasks that thankfully are shorten considerably depending on those features. Xperia Z1 goes for picture quality and a tad more for sound quality as the HTC One. It mostly depends of each phone. Not every phablet is useless. And about specs increase over time, it's just tech "evolving".
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Features like Smart Alert,Air gestures can be done with Tasker...Now I stop to talk about these because thread is about cm
I've been really dissapointed by the Mi4i. Its a mostly all round, fantastic phone. But, I just can't get used to the subpar performance. This got me thinking, is the processor really to blame or is it poorly optimized software.....
Well, just check out this video of the Moto X play. Same specs pretty much, but buttery smooth. Also in a recent Reddit AMA, the Moto X play is said to barely heat up atall. Pretty sure Motorola have worked some magic on the software front and I'm wondering if it'll be possible to use bits from its kernel source (When released) to improve our experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47oMX3OYJz8
I so hope this phone gets updated soon! So close to perfection....
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I've been really dissapointed by the Mi4i. Its a mostly all round, fantastic phone. But, I just can't get used to the subpar performance. This got me thinking, is the processor really to blame or is it poorly optimized software.....
Well, just check out this video of the Moto X play. Same specs pretty much, but buttery smooth. Also in a recent Reddit AMA, the Moto X play is said to barely heat up atall. Pretty sure Motorola have worked some magic on the software front and I'm wondering if it'll be possible to use bits from its kernel source (When released) to improve our experience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47oMX3OYJz8
I so hope this phone gets updated soon! So close to perfection....
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Use the xiaomi europe 5.8.6 rom..it muh better..smooth, faster, better battery life
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mi4i lag problem is because of the throttle and hotplug kicks in way too early .
just adjust / remove them and you won't have lag problem anymore. (modify thermal config )
as for the heat, I'm also interested on moto x play "no heat" claim, we'll see in more reviews later ..
but you can try to set cpu runs at 533/499 interactive . (or at least lower than default 960/800 )
all above works nice in miui
http://en.miui.com/thread-140563-1-1.html
so, basicly is all come from the software?
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so, basicly is all come from the software?
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read what the guy posted above you. it's the throttling.
I modified mine. phone isnt sluggish anymore. can keep up with my other device now
android 5.0.2 is buggy..moto uses 5.1 ...thats even smooth in android one
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Hello comunity!
First: Sorry for my bad english.
2nd: I've had found the sources from the mt6797 which is build in the redmi note 4 MTK. Is this enought for building a AOSP rom ?
There's the link: https://github.com/MT6797?tab=repositories
venor sources: https://gitlab.com/mt6797/vendor
diedmaster said:
Hello comunity!
First: Sorry for my bad english.
2nd: I've had found the sources from the mt6797 which is build in the redmi note 4 MTK. Is this enought for building a AOSP rom ?
There's the link: https://github.com/MT6797?tab=repositories
venor sources: https://gitlab.com/mt6797/vendor
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No.
Mediatek + Xiaomi = No support, no kernel, nothing. Just deal with it. Trust me, I've been there. I had RN2. Ditched it after year.
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No.
Mediatek + Xiaomi = No support, no kernel, nothing. Just deal with it. Trust me, I've been there. I had RN2. Ditched it after year.
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mhm thats a REAL shame :/ but thanks for answer
Don't you think the developers who know how to develop AOSP already know? They are WAY ahead of you. If you checked the dev forum instead of being lazy you would see that there is already an alpha of CyanogenMod 14.1 which is built from sourcecode.
The problem is not MTK sources, it's Redmi Note 4 sources. Drivers for the camera and the fingerprint reader and stuff like that.
Sorry if you think I'm being rude, but this is borderline a troll/spam thread. You get people half excited from the title then share a repo link that any child could find in Google.
Please leave the development to the developers.
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No.
Mediatek + Xiaomi = No support, no kernel, nothing. Just deal with it. Trust me, I've been there. I had RN2. Ditched it after year.
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And yet you decided to try your luck and get another MTK device?
Most of us are aware that getting an MTK device means no AOSP. We get them because they have a high price-to-performance ratio.
Personally I am glad to move away from the Xperia series; it had every AOSP fork under the sun being made for it but they were ALL buggy. It's just torture. If you really want that kind of developer stuff, you should get a Google device.
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Don't you think the developers who know how to develop AOSP already know? They are WAY ahead of you. If you checked the dev forum instead of being lazy you would see that there is already an alpha of CyanogenMod 14.1 which is built from sourcecode.
The problem is not MTK sources, it's Redmi Note 4 sources. Drivers for the camera and the fingerprint reader and stuff like that.
Sorry if you think I'm being rude, but this is borderline a troll/spam thread. You get people half excited from the title then share a repo link that any child could find in Google.
Please leave the development to the developers.
And yet you decided to try your luck and get another MTK device?
Most of us are aware that getting an MTK device means no AOSP. We get them because they have a high price-to-performance ratio.
Personally I am glad to move away from the Xperia series; it had every AOSP fork under the sun being made for it but they were ALL buggy. It's just torture. If you really want that kind of developer stuff, you should get a Google device.
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thanks for you answer,
I really didnt know that .. I thought with the SoC sources the drivers are allready included .. but okey, thanks anyway
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And yet you decided to try your luck and get another MTK device?
Most of us are aware that getting an MTK device means no AOSP. We get them because they have a high price-to-performance ratio.
Personally I am glad to move away from the Xperia series; it had every AOSP fork under the sun being made for it but they were ALL buggy. It's just torture. If you really want that kind of developer stuff, you should get a Google device.
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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Actually you said "We"
1. nominative plural of*I.
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others):
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/we
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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I mean if anything the Qualcomm variant is the dissapointing one, why would you buy it over the Redmi note 3 with a much faster processor and more rom support is beyond me.
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Actually you said "We"
1. nominative plural of*I.
2. (used to denote oneself and another or others):
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/we
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What?
I didn't use word "We" in any of my posts. Is this reply for @CosmicDan?
Nintonito said:
I mean if anything the Qualcomm variant is the dissapointing one, why would you buy it over the Redmi note 3 with a much faster processor and more rom support is beyond me.
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It may be faster, but it's not better overall. SD 625 is based on newer architecture (14nm) which makes it cooler in load and offer your phone much better battery life. If you don't do serious gaming, the difference in speed is not even noticable (Also SD 650 is gonna throttling much sooner because of higher temperatures, which is point where SD 625 can match it's performance). And about ROMs... You can't be serious! RN3 Pro is year older than RN4X, which is still new device. Of course more people have it therefore more people develop for it. Give it some time, and RN4X gonna excede RN3Pro (even now there is developement for all ROM's I'm interested in and a lot more). Also 625 is newer than 650 so it's gonna be supported longer.
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Who said I did? I have Global version of RN4 (mido). I just replied to him, cause I know that feeling to be disappointed by MTK device. I had one and that is definitely gonna be my last.
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Oh sorry, I just assumed you had the MTK version because... well.. THIS IS THE MTK SUBFORUM.
You come in here and trash-talk a device/chipset you don't even have, and expect us to value your opinion? Please.
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What?
I didn't use word "We" in any of my posts. Is this reply for @CosmicDan?
It may be faster, but it's not better overall. SD 625 is based on newer architecture (14nm) which makes it cooler in load and offer your phone much better battery life. If you don't do serious gaming, the difference in speed is not even noticable (Also SD 650 is gonna throttling much sooner because of higher temperatures, which is point where SD 625 can match it's performance). And about ROMs... You can't be serious! RN3 Pro is year older than RN4X, which is still new device. Of course more people have it therefore more people develop for it. Give it some time, and RN4X gonna excede RN3Pro (even now there is developement for all ROM's I'm interested in and a lot more). Also 625 is newer than 650 so it's gonna be supported longer.
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"Better" is subjective. For starters, my X20 Note 4 does not overheat (in fact this is the first I've ever heard about thermal issues on this thing). Secondly, battery life is a non-issue for me - I get ~5 hours SoT which is more than enough to last me a whole day, even two or three if I don't get to charge one night for whatever reason.
The SD is actually probably the same in gaming sine the MTK GPU is underpowered, but in the CPU department the Helio X20 beats the pants off of the SD. You say the speed is not noticeable yet you just admitted you don't even have a Note 4 MTK variant so how do you know? The numbers speak for themselves - the Geekbench score is just too big for it to not be noticeable when under load.
ROM's are a moot point, they don't interest me - only an idiot (or, I suppose, a former fan who regrets their purchase) buys a Xiaomi device and gets rid of MIUI. You can get a Nexus or last-gen Xperia device or whatever for cheaper if you want that crap.
Anyway, you said you don't even have an MTK device, yet you're in here criticizing it, that's like a perfect example of trolling. I'm unsubbing, not gonna waste my time on this anymore.
Personally, I got the Note 4 at the time (right near launch) because I needed a new phone RIGHT NOW, I wasn't going to wait ~6 months for a device that's the same price and only a little bit better - if I waited six months I could of saved more and gotten a high end device. But the SD variant only has two things going for it - better battery life, and support for non-MIUI ROM's - two things that I and many others don't need.
You Said it all Dan..but many users think they know better...
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CosmicDan said:
Oh sorry, I just assumed you had the MTK version because... well.. THIS IS THE MTK SUBFORUM.
You come in here and trash-talk a device/chipset you don't even have, and expect us to value your opinion? Please.
"Better" is subjective. For starters, my X20 Note 4 does not overheat (in fact this is the first I've ever heard about thermal issues on this thing). Secondly, battery life is a non-issue for me - I get ~5 hours SoT which is more than enough to last me a whole day, even two or three if I don't get to charge one night for whatever reason.
The SD is actually probably the same in gaming sine the MTK GPU is underpowered, but in the CPU department the Helio X20 beats the pants off of the SD. You say the speed is not noticeable yet you just admitted you don't even have a Note 4 MTK variant so how do you know? The numbers speak for themselves - the Geekbench score is just too big for it to not be noticeable when under load.
ROM's are a moot point, they don't interest me - only an idiot (or, I suppose, a former fan who regrets their purchase) buys a Xiaomi device and gets rid of MIUI. You can get a Nexus or last-gen Xperia device or whatever for cheaper if you want that crap.
Anyway, you said you don't even have an MTK device, yet you're in here criticizing it, that's like a perfect example of trolling. I'm unsubbing, not gonna waste my time on this anymore.
Personally, I got the Note 4 at the time (right near launch) because I needed a new phone RIGHT NOW, I wasn't going to wait ~6 months for a device that's the same price and only a little bit better - if I waited six months I could of saved more and gotten a high end device. But the SD variant only has two things going for it - better battery life, and support for non-MIUI ROM's - two things that I and many others don't need.
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You should read more and write less. I was comparing SD 650 and SD 625. Didn't even mention MTK or RN4 (nikel). So your whole post is actually pointless.
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You should read more and write less. I was comparing SD 650 and SD 625. Didn't even mention MTK or RN4 (nikel). So your whole post is actually pointless.
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You were comparing SD chipset in the wrong thread. This is a Mediatek subforum. So actually, his post is not pointless.
ekin_strops said:
You were comparing SD chipset in the wrong thread. This is a Mediatek subforum. So actually, his post is not pointless.
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True. It was OT, but I just responded to someone else's comment. Didn't come with it on my own.
CosmicDan said:
Don't you think the developers who know how to develop AOSP already know? They are WAY ahead of you. If you checked the dev forum instead of being lazy you would see that there is already an alpha of CyanogenMod 14.1 which is built from sourcecode.
The problem is not MTK sources, it's Redmi Note 4 sources. Drivers for the camera and the fingerprint reader and stuff like that.
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OK let me get this straight. The culprit here is xiaomi and not mediatek for not releasing sources? Is there any chance xiaomi will release sources? How come snapdragon note 4 has so many roms? Does that mean xiaomi has released sources for it? Has mediatek released sources for this device? Sorry for asking
adrxano said:
OK let me get this straight. The culprit here is xiaomi and not mediatek for not releasing sources? Is there any chance xiaomi will release sources? How come snapdragon note 4 has so many roms? Does that mean xiaomi has released sources for it? Has mediatek released sources for this device? Sorry for asking
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Neither note 4 has official source from Xiaomi. Difference is that Snapdragon devices can be made to boot from CAF source from Qualcomm due to sheer experience, and the same has not been accomplished with Mediatek's Helio X20 source. That and xda has a massssssssuve preference towards Qualcomm anyways due to repeat positive experiences, so most developers spend the time on Qualcomm devices.
CosmicDan said:
Oh sorry, I just assumed you had the MTK version because... well.. THIS IS THE MTK SUBFORUM.
You come in here and trash-talk a device/chipset you don't even have, and expect us to value your opinion? Please.
"Better" is subjective. For starters, my X20 Note 4 does not overheat (in fact this is the first I've ever heard about thermal issues on this thing). Secondly, battery life is a non-issue for me - I get ~5 hours SoT which is more than enough to last me a whole day, even two or three if I don't get to charge one night for whatever reason.
The SD is actually probably the same in gaming sine the MTK GPU is underpowered, but in the CPU department the Helio X20 beats the pants off of the SD. You say the speed is not noticeable yet you just admitted you don't even have a Note 4 MTK variant so how do you know? The numbers speak for themselves - the Geekbench score is just too big for it to not be noticeable when under load.
ROM's are a moot point, they don't interest me - only an idiot (or, I suppose, a former fan who regrets their purchase) buys a Xiaomi device and gets rid of MIUI. You can get a Nexus or last-gen Xperia device or whatever for cheaper if you want that crap.
Anyway, you said you don't even have an MTK device, yet you're in here criticizing it, that's like a perfect example of trolling. I'm unsubbing, not gonna waste my time on this anymore.
Personally, I got the Note 4 at the time (right near launch) because I needed a new phone RIGHT NOW, I wasn't going to wait ~6 months for a device that's the same price and only a little bit better - if I waited six months I could of saved more and gotten a high end device. But the SD variant only has two things going for it - better battery life, and support for non-MIUI ROM's - two things that I and many others don't need.
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I Agree 100%, i have MTK and my girl SD, MTK RULES!!!
adrxano said:
OK let me get this straight. The culprit here is xiaomi and not mediatek for not releasing sources? Is there any chance xiaomi will release sources? How come snapdragon note 4 has so many roms? Does that mean xiaomi has released sources for it? Has mediatek released sources for this device? Sorry for asking
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Do you not know that the combo of cpu, camera, soc, on the redmi note 4 is simillar to a lot of other androids lol. And those other androids have their sources released. You know where jm going with this. Redmi note 4 snapdragon having a lot of custom roms is in no way a big thanks to the redmi note ⁴ community itself. Get real.
personally I dislike miui as it has no support for advanced USB OTG features such as gamepad compatibility or being used as a usb keyboard/touchpad mouse for your pc . though at least the MTK chipset on this phone supports 10bit h265 and vp9 which makes it good for long trips. provided most of your trip isn't in direct sunlight.
asdf2354 said:
personally I dislike miui as it has no support for advanced USB OTG features such as gamepad compatibility or being used as a usb keyboard/touchpad mouse for your pc . though at least the MTK chipset on this phone supports 10bit h265 and vp9 which makes it good for long trips. provided most of your trip isn't in direct sunlight.
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hmm MTK Note4 Support advanced OTG, eyboard, mouse and my soudcard (Soundbalster USB XiFi works fine)