Hi guys, please see pictures. Is this normal?
There's a tiny gap between my top side of the screen and the frame (fits 2 lotto papers easily.)
It is annoying because the bottom side is perfect; the back side is also perfect.
Any body has this problem?
Hey, well i was curios too, .... for me the top is very very tight , close and no gap , no paper is going in.
But for the bottom is not, easy enter a papper in the gap , and you can see it .
I'm not concern about the bottom beacuse i will NOT put it in water !
Check my pictures ( recomend use , and google plus classic , for zoom
https://plus.google.com/photos/113360088344058276817/albums/6369905804234775025
Wasn't this answered elsewhere, in that the gap is deliberate to allow for expansions and contractions in temperature? We may need to be careful not to become too paranoid with the design, as some will gratuitously return the handsets which may raise the bar for those with a genuine warranty claim. If it's a waterproofing concern, I don't think we're supposed to be submerging the handsets, which are more water resistant than waterproof as I understand it. Apologies if this sounds a bit "preachy" and feel free to correct me if I'm way off here......
On my unit the top, bottom and the left side of the screen/frame connection are tight, but the right side where the power button is does have sligthly bigger gap, very tiny difference.
I'm sure if the phone passes the pressure test, it shouldn't be a concern about it beeing water resistant.
If it doesn't pass the pressure test, take it to service and demand a new one.
But If you go to a dealer and look at other phones on a store display you'll see they all have this tiny gap somwhere, not each on the same place, so I guess it's there for a reason and there's a tolerance for it.
As I said, if it passes pressure test, don't worry about it and don't try to adjust it or re-glue it or something.
I have the same gap on the bottom edge. Washed my phone many times, took showers with it. I dont have any issues.
cizkek_ said:
I have the same gap on the bottom edge. Washed my phone many times, took showers with it. I dont have any issues.
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One has to ask, why?? All you need to do is wipe your phone with a cloth dampened with anti-bacterial spray. These phones are water resistant, not waterproof.
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One has to ask, why?? All you need to do is wipe your phone with a cloth dampened with anti-bacterial spray. These phones are water resistant, not waterproof.
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You are right. I was irresponsible. Always wanted to do it though
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Hi all,
Do you know if you can replace the nylon corners on the Z3? Dropped it on the corner and got a nasty ding, but rest of phone is perfect, just the corner is damaged. Don't mind paying Sony to do it, as long as it's not so expensive. Just not sure if it's possible.
Thanks!
cwk204 said:
Hi all,
Do you know if you can replace the nylon corners on the Z3? Dropped it on the corner and got a nasty ding, but rest of phone is perfect, just the corner is damaged. Don't mind paying Sony to do it, as long as it's not so expensive. Just not sure if it's possible.
Thanks!
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I am imterested in this as well. If anyone has any info
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I dropped my phone and also would want to know where to have these replaced.
They can be replaced.
So... Is it Sony that can replace them? I have a small dent in one corner. Anyone know where the phone is sealed? I would guess it is behind the nyloncorner as it is ment to take off for the fall?
Also curious. I dropped my phone onto a hardwood floor from 3,5 meters. Phone is fine but one corner has a crack on it. It´s barely visible but dont think it will take many more drops so this subject might come important for me.
What are you guys doing to drop your phones?
stifferthanyou said:
Also curious. I dropped my phone onto a hardwood floor from 3,5 meters. Phone is fine but one corner has a crack on it. It´s barely visible but dont think it will take many more drops so this subject might come important for me.
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Other people write about droping the phone from 20cm and the screen cracked.
How in the world did your phone survive this?!?!?!
I guess the wooden floor was soft enough and rest was pure luck. Only the flaps opened and phone rebooted itself. I left the phone on a flat balcony railing and a minute later it dropped on its own because it is so slippery.
Btw it´s not the only time i dropped this phone on a wooden floor from hights more than 1 meter without any cases or covers. Durable phone.
Mine slid off a soft surface onto a tile counter top no more than 5cm, and the screen shattered. I can't say I agree that the phone is durable.
Id love to see some photos of drop damage. Do the nylon corners work as intended?
It is becoming clear that the Z3 is a phone you do not want to drop without a case on.
sunoryjim said:
It is becoming clear that the Z3 is a phone you do not want to drop without a case on.
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Isn't that true for all phones right now ?
Anyway, @op, could you provide pics of the affected area ? I'm curious to see how the nylon corners dealt with the damage, as Sony is advertising them as the saviour of Z3 in case you drop it.
Akiainavas said:
Isn't that true for all phones right now ?
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Basically.. Although the Z3 has two pieces of glass, so the chances of one of them shattering is higher.
It's all about how lucky, or un-lucky you are on how it lands.
The days of Nokia 3310 are gone, only flagship phone that can really take a beating is the HTC One because of the speaker frames buffering the glass, so even corner impacts don't damage the screen.
So, anyone who actually had the corners on the phone replaced? Roughly how much did you pay?
One of my corners cracked after a drop yesterday, and the phone looks hideous now...
I must say that unlike what seems like most people experienced, I find the phone to be very durable.
I've dropped it several times from roughly 1-1,5 meters height, and only this one time any damage appeared - and it did not spread anywhere else than the corner.
I've attached pictures of the damage if anyone is interested. (Sorry for the extremely poor quality, apart from my phone I only have a ****ty webcam as camera...)
Akiainavas said:
Isn't that true for all phones right now ?
Anyway, @op, could you provide pics of the affected area ? I'm curious to see how the nylon corners dealt with the damage, as Sony is advertising them as the saviour of Z3 in case you drop it.
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Where do you see Sony advertising the nylon corners for stopping damages? I would imagine rubber would help more than these hard nylon corners.
Did 1 of u manage to repair ? dent mine the same
Hello. Anyone has experience on the fix? A Taiwanese forum mentioned Sony replacement for NTD 5150 (about USD 165) as Sony representative said "the nylon caps are together with the screen/frame so everything has to be replaced". Ridiculous I would say.
Mine was more abrupt because it just slipped off the phone when I picked my phone up from sofa. Don't know if previous damage would have loosen it.
Does that affect waterproofing as well? My pressure test still positive though. Maybe I can just use super glue. Hmm. Update me please!
cheeyeen said:
Hello. Anyone has experience on the fix? A Taiwanese forum mentioned Sony replacement for NTD 5150 (about USD 165) as Sony representative said "the nylon caps are together with the screen/frame so everything has to be replaced". Ridiculous I would say.
Mine was more abrupt because it just slipped off the phone when I picked my phone up from sofa. Don't know if previous damage would have loosen it.
Does that affect waterproofing as well? My pressure test still positive though. Maybe I can just use super glue. Hmm. Update me please!
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What previous damage?
Something under the lens, near the top: http://imgur.com/a/SMXPU
I'm not sure what this is but looks like a speck of dust? But I'm not sure. What do you think? Is there a way to remove it without taking off the back cover completely (e.g. tapping the phone downwards, tapping the covert itself, etc.)
Not sure how it affects (or if it even does) image quality.. haven't noticed anything too unusual
Yep, looks like dust to me and I have mixed thoughts. One hand I say don't worry if it doesn't impact images, but also think if dust got in how dust/water proofed is the device?
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Yep, looks like dust to me and I have mixed thoughts. One hand I say don't worry if it doesn't impact images, but also think if dust got in how dust/water proofed is the device?
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I'm thinking more like dust went inside during the assembled of the device
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I have the same thing and quite a bit... Doesn't affect most outdoor images, but if you I a desk light at a certain angle, the dust spots are more apparent (they look like floaters in your eye). I had the lens cover replaced when I had the left blur problem. JerryRigEverything said the lens cover is plastic and scratches and loosens up very easily if you use a knife to poke it...
It looks like water vapors to me. Did you sink it in water? That's how my HTC camera looked after taking water. Could be that your device is not hermetic anymore. There is a test for that, using your service menu / pressure sensor and gently pushing on the screen. Google it up.
If it's not water but dust, you'd better test it though, as you don't want to put it in water if it's not water/dust proof anymore.
Xperia Z5 E6653
Hello.
Has some of you replaced the original corners? I'm really thinking about doing it since the one at the top left got damaged and it looks very bad, haha.
I may buy them from Witrigs, since I have already bought from there.
What I'm a little worried about is: is it safe and easy to change those parts by myself? And will I lose water resistance?
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Hello.
Has some of you replaced the original corners? I'm really thinking about doing it since the one at the top left got damaged and it looks very bad, haha.
I may buy them from Witrigs, since I have already bought from there.
What I'm a little worried about is: is it safe and easy to change those parts by myself? And will I lose water resistance?
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Mine too is slightly dented/damage (same as yours, top left corner), and I was wondering the same... Does replacing that teflon corner affects the phone (water resistance) ?
Based on this video:
, water resistance might not be affected. The corners seem to be on top of a kind of internal frame
I guess we'll find out soon enough how it went and how it looks like once replaced. Doesn't look too difficult though judging by the video you posted, as long as you have some basic manual skills
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I will implement same thing I bought one piece middle frame corner from Aliexpress. I wanna ask that will this process damage water resistance of phone or not?
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Mine too is slightly dented/damage (same as yours, top left corner), and I was wondering the same... Does replacing that teflon corner affects the phone (water resistance) ?
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I am wondering why the top left corner of Xperia Z5 is so sensitive and weak. Now my phone is very ugly while seeing from left side.
Not sure if Sony Warranty can replace it, of course with additional fees.
Quick heads up. I don't have my Z5 anymore (gave it to my fiancée and got a S7 Edge), but I managed to repair the corner.
It requires patience and precision, but it's quite easy
I removed the damaged corner using a hair dryer and a pair of very thin long nose pliers. The glue became very soft and the corner came easily. I then used lighter fluid to clean the remaining glue and stuck the new corner with 2 droplets of crazy glue.
Looks like new now! Just don't overheat the phone with the hair dryer, and make sure you don't blow hot air directly on the display. I will post pics if you want.
I recently got my mobile serviced from a Sony service center, I believe the pressure sensor results indicate that my mobile is not fully sealed. No noticeable change in pressure.
So, can anyone please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor & try to apply slight pressure above the display.
It would be nice if you can record and upload the video to youtube like this.
thanks.
The pressure sensor is not a 100% way of knowing that your phone is "fully sealed".
iArvee said:
The pressure sensor is not a 100% way of knowing that your phone is "fully sealed".
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I get that, but why should the results vary from one mobile to the other. Does it mean anything or not?
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I get that, but why should the results vary from one mobile to the other. Does it mean anything or not?
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No, it shouldn't mean anything. My pressure sensor shows 10xx, while on my friend's phone it shows 11xx.
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No, it shouldn't mean anything. My pressure sensor shows 10xx, while on my friend's phone it shows 11xx.
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I think you don't get what I am saying. Mine doesn't go beyond 1007-1008 even when I apply pressure on the display.
So, I have recorded a video, it would be nice if you can do the same.
Thanks.
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I think you don't get what I am saying. Mine doesn't go beyond 1007-1008 even when I apply pressure on the display.
So, I have recorded a video, it would be nice if you can do the same.
Thanks.
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mine shows 993 so its less pressure but it doesnt mean its not sealed, lets say (and its just an example) that the least pressure for the phone to be sealed is 900, i got 993, you got 1007, it means we are both fully sealed but yours is pressed harder, kind of like a piece of rubber put it on the ground with water next to it, it wont go through, doesnt matter how hard you apply pressure as long as there is slight pressure.
with that said, more pressure could mean stronger seal BUT it could also indicate that your phone is being pressed harder than it should even on flat state without applying any, which means your phone is slightly bent (the bend of the device is causing pressure on the sensor which leads to more pressure indication) and thats not a good thing, because once that happens, you might notice slight yellowISH spots on the sides of the screen (am I right?) if not then the pressure is not so high but it doesnt mean its not sealed but be careful not to apply more pressure - meaning dont put your phone in your pocket while youre sitting and because your leg is bent and in your pocket the phone might get hot so with bending pressure as the phone is made of metal (and glass), heat will cause the bending to be easier while in your pocket and that will cause screen touch problems and volume buttons , I had my phone sent to fix once cuz of that and they said its because of too much pressure applied on the phone with time caused such problems (especially times when its in your pocket while youre sitting.
and my phone pressure is lower than yours but its tested water proof after they fixed it in the lab so no worries
hope i cleared things up
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I think you don't get what I am saying. Mine doesn't go beyond 1007-1008 even when I apply pressure on the display.
So, I have recorded a video, it would be nice if you can do the same.
Thanks.
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Oh, thats what you mean. Apologies.
I can't take a video now, since I'm at work, but when I apply pressure to the screen, the pressure rises. The pressure should rise if the flap is closed. If the flap is open, the pressure won't rise. Since yours does not change, it might mean that there's leakage somewhere in the device. Since you had your phone serviced at a mobile center, have them double check if it is water resistant. If you had yours done at a Sony mobile center, they should be able to perform a water resistance test for you (request that they do it in front of you so you can be sure.)
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mine shows 993 so its less pressure but it doesnt mean its not sealed, lets say (and its just an example) that the least pressure for the phone to be sealed is 900, i got 993, you got 1007, it means we are both fully sealed but yours is pressed harder, kind of like a piece of rubber put it on the ground with water next to it, it wont go through, doesnt matter how hard you apply pressure as long as there is slight pressure.
with that said, more pressure could mean stronger seal BUT it could also indicate that your phone is being pressed harder than it should even on flat state without applying any, which means your phone is slightly bent (the bend of the device is causing pressure on the sensor which leads to more pressure indication) and thats not a good thing, because once that happens, you might notice slight yellowISH spots on the sides of the screen (am I right?) if not then the pressure is not so high but it doesnt mean its not sealed but be careful not to apply more pressure - meaning dont put your phone in your pocket while youre sitting and because your leg is bent and in your pocket the phone might get hot so with bending pressure as the phone is made of metal (and glass), heat will cause the bending to be easier while in your pocket and that will cause screen touch problems and volume buttons , I had my phone sent to fix once cuz of that and they said its because of too much pressure applied on the phone with time caused such problems (especially times when its in your pocket while youre sitting.
and my phone pressure is lower than yours but its tested water proof after they fixed it in the lab so no worries
hope i cleared things up
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Thank you for your explanation, but my pressure doesn't increases on the mobile. That's my biggest worry.
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Oh, thats what you mean. Apologies.
I can't take a video now, since I'm at work, but when I apply pressure to the screen, the pressure rises. The pressure should rise if the flap is closed. If the flap is open, the pressure won't rise. Since yours does not change, it might mean that there's leakage somewhere in the device. Since you had your phone serviced at a mobile center, have them double check if it is water resistant. If you had yours done at a Sony mobile center, they should be able to perform a water resistance test for you (request that they do it in front of you so you can be sure.)
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Yeah, exactly.
When you have time please use AZ Screen Recorder to record the video and do share with me when you have time.
No one?
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No one?
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Bro mine doesnt add any thing when i apply pressure it stays 993 even if i push hard so im not really sure how that works or where to push but its not a problem as after i once sent my phone to fix they performed a waterproof test and stated in their summary paper that its all good so take it easy its all good haha chill, if you gonna keep digging stuff like this looking for a problem you will never be happy with what you have
Hello,
Received my Note10+ yesterday, so far love the device.
I just noticed today (this morning) on bright sun / light a gap of couple of millimeters on top of the screen.
Looks like screen is not going to the edge on top side only, is this normal?
Image / full size:
https://screens.urimage.link/20190830_074945.jpg
Please see image for better view / understanding.
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that gap is for the sensors and speaker
Thank you very much for your time and responding to this thread.
I am a little bit confused, isnt the speaker at the bottom?
I had Samsung S10+ until yesterday, and i do not remember seeing gap like this (its not the same phone, but, probably similar design / i might be wrong though).
Thank you
The gap in the middle 2 arrows are the cut out for the front speaker the other gaps are where the screen meets the frame sometime there bigger on different phones its hut and miss
But if it bothers you exchange it for one that fits a bit better
Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
Thanks
s-f-r-j said:
Thank you very much for responding.
I think i have 15 days to replace / return the phone (i will re-check), but, if its kinda normal, and possible on any other phone, even replacement, i do not think its wise to do it.
Once i put case on, i do not even think it will be that visible (hardly visible now as well if not on bright light).
Biggest concern if this would affect IP68 in anyway
Thanks
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I think there is a way you can test the ip rating without obviously putting it in water
Back when I had the xperia phones you could squeeze the device and check the pressure didn't rise and stay risen to indicate its water tight
Thank you again for your time.
I decided to test that gap by pouring water on it for about 20-30 seconds, no issues at all.
I will not bother with this, will just enjoy the phone.
Thanks again.
The picture link is not working. From my understanding the only small gap should be in the center where the top speaker hole is. But the left and right side of the top speaker till the corner should not have any gap. I am having the same issue. I'm going to check to see if other models are like that.
Same, should not be there.
In the end i decided to return the phone.
Upon closer inspections took some photos and judging by other demo units on display. They all have that white line gap. Some are more noticable than others. But same line can be seen. I compared 3 different phones from different stores. They all exist. It's seems like that white line looks like maybe it's the adhesive glue. The middle does not have it where the ear speaker cutout is, where the ear speaker hole ends on both side left and right white line is visible because of the extra gap on both sides and it appears that the line stops before the corner on each side of the glass on the top. It's maybe nitpicking buts it's really annoying. I checked on the S10 it's not present on that model and none I see on the Note 9 too. I checked. And since it's like white color can be visible inside the small gap line on the top where the glass meets up with the metal frame.
I actually just discovered that I can get a piece of paper down between the top of the screen and the frame on my Note 10 +!!!??? All along the top of the glass - from the top left corner to the right?
Is this what you are talking about? And will the phone still be waterproof? (There could still be a rubber membrane that prevents water from entering the insides of the phone...)