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I apologize if this has been covered a 1000 times, but I did a cursory search and only run into threads about the screen cover or full-body protection, i.e. the lens cover is almost always just mentioned in passing.
I'm one of the many who have discovered that the plastic lens cover integrated into the battery cover is extremely prone to scratches. I've ordered two extra covers from Expansys, but at this rate, I'll need to get a new one every 2-3 months.
On previous phones, I tried various screen covers that either came with a lense cover (Martin Fields) or cut one out myself, only to find that the clarity of the plastic screen covers causes the pictures to come out hazy or milky. This is partially due to the difficulty of removing fingerprints, but even more due to the fact that screen protectors aren't really designed to be crystal clear like a camera lens is. I invariably took them off and risked it, but on most of my other units, the only thing that was real glass was the lens cover. Not so on the Desire.
Does anyone have any advice on this front?
i use the martin fields lens cover that came with the martins fields screen cover... its very good for the price....
I had an old screen protector that I cut a rectangle to cover the lens.
Looks OK but not perfect.
I may try to cut a circle to cover it properly.
I am not sure how you damage it, i keep my phone in its pouch, when i take it out or put it back down i put the phone ontop of the pouch so the camera is not touching the surface. A cover would i assume make the picture loose quality?
I'm generally very careful with my phones, but accidents happen and I managed to get a bunch of hairline scratches on the lens cover after just 6 weeks with the phone.
hoppi05 said:
i use the martin fields lens cover that came with the martins fields screen cover... its very good for the price....
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Can you show me URL for this product?
Not saying that they haven't made progress, but I used to have a Martin Fields lens protector on my old Omnia i900 and found that the plastic of the lens protector caused hazy pictures even when clean.
I'm beginning to wonder if a liquid solution might be the way to go. Something like clear nailpolish that could be removed and reapplied if it got scratches in it. Anyone hear of something like this?
I've got the same problem, a lot of little scratches at the lens cover which make my photos not as sharp/clear as it should be. I think with the pouch I recently ordered the problem is over, but for now I must order a quite expensive new battery cover.
Quist said:
Not saying that they haven't made progress, but I used to have a Martin Fields lens protector on my old Omnia i900 and found that the plastic of the lens protector caused hazy pictures even when clean.
I'm beginning to wonder if a liquid solution might be the way to go. Something like clear nailpolish that could be removed and reapplied if it got scratches in it. Anyone hear of something like this?
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The liquid would have to be perfectly flat and of uniform thickness to prevent refraction, I doubt such an application could be achieved "at home"
I just use a thick gel skin for my phone and a padded microfibre pouch.
The thickness of the skin makes the lens very deeply recessed so it's way safer.
albert_htc said:
I had an old screen protector that I cut a rectangle to cover the lens.
Looks OK but not perfect.
I may try to cut a circle to cover it properly.
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Lol..u just give me a got idea!! Im going to try it on my sensation!!
Edit: Actualy i already try the rectangular one and its fit perfect. Tomorow i wil try to cut it in round shape one ;P
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take out the lens
Perhaps too obvious, but I knocked out the camera lens in the battery cover. After more than a year still no scratches on the camera itself and perfect pictures (at least, for this camera unit). Protection is sufficient with a pouch.
naimmkassim said:
Lol..u just give me a got idea!! Im going to try it on my sensation!!
Edit: Actualy i already try the rectangular one and its fit perfect. Tomorow i wil try to cut it in round shape one ;P
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Crap!! It just dont work..after few days dust started to accumulate between the rectangular screen protector and the camera lens. More scratch now!! Crap..crap!! >¦c
P/s: i did try to cut the screen protector round, but the glue of the screen just come out during cutting process..not work also..
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just remove the scratched up bit of plastic and stop worrying, the lens is countersunk below the case anyway,
i removed the plastic lens from my battery cover after having the desire for about 2 weeks, 6-7 months later my pictures still come out as sharp and defined as when new,
if you get any dirt on the camera lens simply take off your battery cover and you can clean it easily,
braddersss said:
just remove the scratched up bit of plastic and stop worrying, the lens is countersunk below the case anyway,
i removed the plastic lens from my battery cover after having the desire for about 2 weeks, 6-7 months later my pictures still come out as sharp and defined as when new,
if you get any dirt on the camera lens simply take off your battery cover and you can clean it easily,
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The worry part is during clean up the camera lens. If i wipe it with some chemical n tissue, there is a high risk the lens get scratch ;c
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naimmkassim said:
The worry part is during clean up the camera lens. If i wipe it with some chemical n tissue, there is a high risk the lens get scratch ;c
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well as i said mines been fine for the last 6-7 months, i just take the battery cover off and give it a wipe with my t shirt or something, no scratches so far,,
braddersss said:
well as i said mines been fine for the last 6-7 months, i just take the battery cover off and give it a wipe with my t shirt or something, no scratches so far,,
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This may not be necessary!
I've been having this issue for ages too.. i clean the plastic lens but it appears to be scratched as pics come out hazy, just like other posters above. I have just pushed out the plastic lens on the battery cover as suggested and sure enough pics are instantly clearer.. however when inspecting the plastic lens cover i realized two things
* the sticky part is very sticky!
* the inside of the plastic part (the sticky side) appears to be dirty..
i cleaned it with one of those cloths you use for specs and since it's still very sticky i put it back in.. tried a few shots with the battery cover on and off, and i' can't notice any difference.. no longer hazy!
sure though, knocking it out avoids having to clean in form the inside .. but i'm afraid of scratching the inside lens.. that one's more difficult to replace
if you REALLY want to go all out, you could take the cover to a jewler/watch repair and have them replace the glass with sapphire crystal... it's so small that it may not cost an outrageous amount, but then they would have to cut it to size...
Bought myself another battery cover from ebay, I hope this one will last, gonna have to figure out how to maintain that new one scratch-free.
The one I bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130544376251?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Another option for those worried about their lens ...
Amazon ( Sorry, I only found it on the german site ) has this item listed :
http://www.amazon.de/Ersatzglas-Kam...WWGK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1320922089&sr=8-3
It's a saphire glass replacement lens cover for our beloved Desire , and apparently is very scratchproof (according to reviews) . They had a slight quality problem early in the manufacturing process, the first items came out slightly too large, but it seems that's fixed by now ...
I will order one and give it a try , as I have quite bad scratches in mine after 1.5 years of normal use and don't really want to leave the camera itself uncovered
There was suddenly a piece of small plastic that's coming out of the Butterfly. It's located where the black piece of the phone meets the speaker-like mesh on the left side. Looks like it's part of the rubber that prevents water ingress.
It's really small and has a golden brown color. Has anyone else seen this on their phones?
No, do you have some shots of it ?
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No, do you have some shots of it ?
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I think it will be very hard to do a close up shot of it.
little far away shot will also be helpful ...
i saw that before in my previous returned Butterfly (for touch screen malfunction), but don't worry, it is just the exceed glue, it won't impact the phone water resistance quality (told by the service guys, don't blame me if it is not true)
same here!
if it's kinda sticky, yes. it's the same. kinda worried though it might affect the phone being splash-proof.
but hey, it's not the (Sony Xperia) Z that we'll soak in water, is it?
Yep, I've also concluded before that it's just the glue. How'd I know? I peeled the 'speaker-like' sticker and put it back. Yes, it's just a sticker for decoration.
Just changed to the z3 from my iphone 5s. After one week of use I see that I have alot of tiny scratches on the glass that covers the camera. On my Iphone 5s i have not a single scratch after a year of usage.
Anyone else having the same? I dont want to use a large case covering my phone, but the quality of my pictures matters a lot. Tips to preventing this to happen? Why is it happening?
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kicker86 said:
Just changed to the z3 from my iphone 5s. After one week of use I see that I have alot of tiny scratches on the glass that covers the camera. On my Iphone 5s i have not a single scratch after a year of usage.
Anyone else having the same? I dont want to use a large case covering my phone, but the quality of my pictures matters a lot. Tips to preventing this to happen? Why is it happening?
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It s simple Smartphone cannot take care of itself you should be careful where to put it
iPhone 5s also have these kindda problem cause I experience it myself (lots of scratch on camera, back and front
there is small circle protector to just put on camera to prevent scratches (it doesn't effect on pic quality cause it s completely visible) and usually these protectors ships with screen protectors
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It s simple Smartphone cannot take care of itself you should be careful where to put it
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Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
same problem with z3 camera scrathes.
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Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
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me and my brother have the same problem, after only 2 weeks of use, both phones have the same problem, the camera glass looks very bad! so for me it's clear a material problem. Too bad, becuase the z3 it's really nice!
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Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
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I don't and I bet the majority of people also don't have these problems. I don't look after my phones either.
The things you describe do not "just happen" as a result of "one day of cautious use" and screens do not crack from listening to music on the pathetic quiet speakers.
Might just be the oleo-phobic layer, which got damaged. Some LG G2s also had that. Rare though.
Try taking a qtip and rub toothpaste on it, it will buffout the scratchesand look brand new, happened to my htc m8
Herei would like to share my experience, i noticed the same problem while agi, normally don'tuse fone camera alot, but noticed lately that it has gone rubbish, search on youtube and different forums everyone refer that toothpaste thing and some even told me about nail polish remover, before starting with the cure it came to my mimd why need clean my hands first before i start cleaning my camera lens,while i was usinghand wipes bought from local shop i attempt ti clean my phone too, accidently i rubbed it on lens too and i noticed they weregoing smoothly i rubbed it gently and yaayyy its gone without doing anything else,
So basically only need a hand wipe to remove those smooth stains from lens,only precaution be gentle to your device.
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I have recently got a little scratch on my camera lens as well, i have look up on the internet and people say use toothpaste to remove the coating that is easily scratched. But I don't think i want to remove that layer of coating (if Z3 D6603 has that coating). Then I found the displex scratch remover, i wonder if this will work on the scratched Z3 camera lens. The scratch is very minor and does not affect the photo quality, but I just want it to be fixed.
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Not really true as it deeply depends of the glass quality...
I've got a Samsung S4, took it with me on my Asia trips. Water, sand, rough handling, carrying it with lots of other stuff in the backpack.
NO (!) scratches on the camera lens.
Z3: Scratches on the glass backplane after one day of cautious use, crack in the display glass after listening to loud music for some time, rendering the touchscreen defective. Crack starting at the upper speaker which causes strong vibrations of the phone.
So it seems Sony doesn't care much about using quality glass; might be the same with the camera lens.
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Sand and no scratch?!?!?!
https://youtu.be/u-qYMl9T9wQ?t=49
It may also be the anti-reflective coating.
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-166.html
The LG G2 also for some people had issues where it came off.
look up devil case the company got a lens product to keep the lens safe
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Sand and no scratch?!?!?!
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Indeed. It's still like new.
But if it comes to the Z3, any scratches of the camera lens might improve the picture quality as the Z3 has the worst camera I ever experienced over the last few years.
It's nothing but a shame.
Have a look at the attachment - that's NO JOKE; it's bitter reality.
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Indeed. It's still like new.
But if it comes to the Z3, any scratches of the camera lens might improve the picture quality as the Z3 has the worst camera I ever experienced over the last few years.
It's nothing but a shame.
Have a look at the attachment - that's NO JOKE; it's bitter reality.
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Indeed...
Over the past few days my pictures have started looking like they were all taken in a 1920s jazz club.
I took a photo on the 9th of my living room setup that came out perfectly clear. The next day I noticed that pictures were coming out a little fuzzy, having a hard time focusing, and there appeared to be a slight film on the lens cover. The picture I post below is from today and the haze seems to cover almost the entire lens cover.
I removed the film the day I purchased the phone and haven't made any changes to my daily routine that may have brought this about.
Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? Hair dryer on medium for a minute or so? Should I RMA? Anyone else having this problem?
Is there any kind of condensation under the lens?
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Is there any kind of condensation under the lens?
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I can't tell what it is but there is definitely something under the lens. However, I checked the water indicator in the sim tray and it seems to still be white.
Edit: I know you can't really tell anything from those photos. In the first one, even though it is out of focus, you can tell there is definitely something on the lens.
I can't tell much by the photos, but the camera and finger sensor ship with protective vinyl covers. The one on my finger sensor was particularly hard to remove because it was cut and aligned so perfectly, there was no lip to grab. I had to use tweezers to remove it.
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...The one on my finger sensor was particularly hard to remove because it was cut and aligned so perfectly, there was no lip to grab. I had to use tweezers to remove it.
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Yeah, I distinctly remember the fingerprint protector being a pain to remove. That's why I know there isn't a protector on the lens...
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Yeah, I distinctly remember the fingerprint protector being a pain to remove. That's why I know there isn't a protector on the lens...
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Ah, I completely missed that in your OP. My S6 takes the best photos of any phone I've ever owned, I have zero complaints about that. Your photo is definitely hazy. I have never taken a photo like that. If you are still in your return period, you should exchange it.
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There is definitely something wrong there. Return the device while you can.
Can't really tell from the pics, but you might have condensation in the inner elements of the compound lens.
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Thanks, gents. Looks like I'll be filing a warranty replacement on Monday.
The only thing I can think is that when I went for a run with it in an armband the morning it started and somehow sweat got in there. I guess they weren't kidding when they removed the water proof rating from the s5.
I attached a couple pictures from before it started. This camera seriously is phenomenal.
So the glass covering the camera lens recently broke on my girlfriend's Galaxy S7. The camera still worked and focused correctly, but I tried to replace the glass.
I used a heat gun to remove all of the broken glass and adhesive. Ever since I did that, everything looks "foggy" in the camera app. It's like there's moisture covering the lens. We tried cleaning the lens with a Q-tip, but it still looks the same.
Anyone know why this would happen? Did I damage the camera unit with the heat? Any advice on what to do? Thanks in advance!
Maybe some adhesive is left between camera module and lens? Are lens exactly the same as the ones before? Just throwing some ideas around because I am honestly not an expert on this, might be damaged module but I don't know enough to say anything.
Thanks for the reply. Yeah, that is possible. Although if that's the case, I don't know why it won't come off. I haven't actually put the new glass cover over the camera unit lens yet, and I tried cleaning the module lens with a Q-tip. Same result. So, I'm wondering if I damaged the unit, or maybe melted the lens slightly. I guess it is what it is. Thanks again!
Wait but is it foggy when you put lens over it? I mean is the whole package there or not? Because that's what lens are for, to focus stuff on the camera sensor. It's not clear from your post if you actually did that or not. Camera without lens with always be "foggy".
Edit: Reading it for 3rd time, is the exterior glass the only thing broken or is there more? Flat glass will not focus image so that is no the issue then. For a second I thought that you have camera module without any glass. Post some pictures I guess, from the camera and of the camera.
Sorry for the confusion. Yes, the exterior glass was the only thing broken. When it first broke, I ripped the shards off, and bought a replacement glass cover online. The camera was still working until I used a heat gun to remove the residual glass and adhesive.
After I did that, I tested the camera again, and that's when it looked foggy. Anyway, I'll post some pictures when I get the chance.
Why would u even use heat gun for that? I changed about 20 camera lenses and all without heat gun, just break the glass and ripp it off, clean the leftover residue , put new glass and bam works... maybe u have condensation?
Can you share a photo taken with the camera? it'll help to figure out what's happening.
Maybe some clues :
- If the lens is made with other material than glass they are heat and chemicals sensitive
- Some humidity got under the lens
- Deep scratch on the lens
- The lens barrel moved for some reason (pushed or not in his rail anymore) or is not calibrated anymore
(btw never use Q-tips to clean lenses they can scratch the lens and coating - Use optical cleaning paper)
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Why would u even use heat gun for that? I changed about 20 camera lenses and all without heat gun, just break the glass and ripp it off, clean the leftover residue , put new glass and bam works... maybe u have condensation?
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I was following a tutorial video I found online. The said that any residual adhesive from the old glass might cause an imperfect seal, and any old glass pieces might cause the new glass to crack. So, they removed it with a heat gun. How do you go about cleaning the leftover residue? Just curious. Thanks.
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Can you share a photo taken with the camera? it'll help to figure out what's happening.
Maybe some clues :
- If the lens is made with other material than glass they are heat and chemicals sensitive
- Some humidity got under the lens
- Deep scratch on the lens
- The lens barrel moved for some reason (pushed or not in his rail anymore) or is not calibrated anymore
(btw never use Q-tips to clean lenses they can scratch the lens and coating - Use optical cleaning paper)
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Thanks for the input. Here's some photos. This is what an image looks like when taken with the camera currently:
Here's a picture taken with my S7, which doesn't have a damaged camera. This is what the image should look like:
Here's a closeup shot of the damaged camera. I haven't put the replacement glass on yet. I am waiting until this issue is resolved.
Looking at that close up shot of the lens, it does look like there's something on it. I can't tell if those are scratches or residue. Any idea what might be a good way to go about cleaning it? It seems like it would be hard to clean something that small with optical cleaning paper, especially since the unit moves. Thanks again!
Thanks for the pics.
Somehow hard to figure out if it's some Q-tips dust of some melted plastic coating gel.
Yes it's hard to clean such a little surface but try to wrap your Qtips or a small non abrasive tool with the optical paper, add some 100% ethanol or 98% rubbing alcohol on it.
Do you have a air blower pump for camera?, if yes try with that first and if it still stuck on the lens then something melted, Gel coating? not sure. If it's inside well it's probably some gel...unfortunately there is nothing much you can do but changing the camera module.
Hope it's only dust, good luck.
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Thanks for the pics.
Somehow hard to figure out if it's some Q-tips dust of some melted plastic coating gel.
Yes it's hard to clean such a little surface but try to wrap your Qtips or a small non abrasive tool with the optical paper, add some 100% ethanol or 98% rubbing alcohol on it.
Do you have a air blower pump for camera?, if yes try with that first and if it still stuck on the lens then something melted, Gel coating? not sure. If it's inside well it's probably some gel...unfortunately there is nothing much you can do but changing the camera module.
Hope it's only dust, good luck.
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Thanks for the advice! I don't have an air blower pump. Can I use a can of air? Anyway, I'll try these tips when I get back in town tomorrow. Thank you again!
Sure a can of air can do the trick, be careful though, some spray liquid and let some residue, test it on a piece of paper first. Tell us how it goes.
Have you washed the phone with water before the glass broke?
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Looking at that close up shot of the lens, it does look like there's something on it.
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If the gunk doesn't clear with alcohol (e.g. lens cleaner) then it may be that the lens itself is damaged. If the heat gun made the lens too hot it may have damaged the actual lens itself.
That rear glass looks like the coating is flaking. You might need to replace the module. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Sam...ont-Rear-Lens-Flex-Cable-Module-/192066941308
Thanks for all the help, everyone! So, I tried cleaning the lens with a can of air, and also with lens cleaner on a Q-tip covered with optical cleaning paper. Same results.
Looks like whatever the problem is, it's gonna require replacing the camera unit Darn, wish I hadn't touched it. Was working fine. Anyway, thanks again!
Thanks for the follow up and sorry to hear it didn't fixed the problem. Maybe you could ask samsung to get you a price quote for the replacement or if you're really adventurous you could buy the camera module as a DIY project, be extra careful though you'll most likely avoid your warranty and the IP67/68 (someone posted a link in the thread for the camera unit), or ask a quote in a 3rd party shop?
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah, that is possible. Although if that's the case, I don't know why it won't come off. I haven't actually put the new glass cover over the camera unit lens yet, and I tried cleaning the module lens with a Q-tip. Same result. So, I'm wondering if I damaged the unit, or maybe melted the lens slightly. I guess it is what it is. Thanks again!
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I'm having the exact same problem and same question! I just finished replacing my LCD. I took a picture to test it out, before putting the back cover back on, and it worked perfect. Then, I used to the heat gun to replace my camera lens, after putting the new back cover on, and now nothing buy blurry, and even looks like a couple of round water spots. I took the lens back off and tried cleaning it, I've shaken in, reset the camera settings, at this point...I'm afraid I damaged the camera with the heat gun and have to open it back up and have replace the whole camera.
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I'm having the exact same problem and same question! I just finished replacing my LCD. I took a picture to test it out, before putting the back cover back on, and it worked perfect. Then, I used to the heat gun to replace my camera lens, after putting the new back cover on, and now nothing buy blurry, and even looks like a couple of round water spots. I took the lens back off and tried cleaning it, I've shaken in, reset the camera settings, at this point...I'm afraid I damaged the camera with the heat gun and have to open it back up and have replace the whole camera.
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Aw man, yeah looks like the same thing happened to you. Yeah, I think that the heat damages the lens on the camera unit. I couldn't find a way to get rid of the blurriness.
I ended up just cashing in on the phone insurance for mine. If you have it, I'd suggest doing the same, unless you're feeling adventurous and wanna try and replace the camera unit. Sorry I can't be more help. Good luck!