I recently got my mobile serviced from a Sony service center, I believe the pressure sensor results indicate that my mobile is not fully sealed. No noticeable change in pressure.
So, can anyone please test this by accessing the service menu *#*#service#*#*, > tests > pressure sensor & try to apply slight pressure above the display.
It would be nice if you can record and upload the video to youtube like this.
thanks.
The pressure sensor is not a 100% way of knowing that your phone is "fully sealed".
iArvee said:
The pressure sensor is not a 100% way of knowing that your phone is "fully sealed".
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I get that, but why should the results vary from one mobile to the other. Does it mean anything or not?
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I get that, but why should the results vary from one mobile to the other. Does it mean anything or not?
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No, it shouldn't mean anything. My pressure sensor shows 10xx, while on my friend's phone it shows 11xx.
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No, it shouldn't mean anything. My pressure sensor shows 10xx, while on my friend's phone it shows 11xx.
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I think you don't get what I am saying. Mine doesn't go beyond 1007-1008 even when I apply pressure on the display.
So, I have recorded a video, it would be nice if you can do the same.
Thanks.
thalada said:
I think you don't get what I am saying. Mine doesn't go beyond 1007-1008 even when I apply pressure on the display.
So, I have recorded a video, it would be nice if you can do the same.
Thanks.
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mine shows 993 so its less pressure but it doesnt mean its not sealed, lets say (and its just an example) that the least pressure for the phone to be sealed is 900, i got 993, you got 1007, it means we are both fully sealed but yours is pressed harder, kind of like a piece of rubber put it on the ground with water next to it, it wont go through, doesnt matter how hard you apply pressure as long as there is slight pressure.
with that said, more pressure could mean stronger seal BUT it could also indicate that your phone is being pressed harder than it should even on flat state without applying any, which means your phone is slightly bent (the bend of the device is causing pressure on the sensor which leads to more pressure indication) and thats not a good thing, because once that happens, you might notice slight yellowISH spots on the sides of the screen (am I right?) if not then the pressure is not so high but it doesnt mean its not sealed but be careful not to apply more pressure - meaning dont put your phone in your pocket while youre sitting and because your leg is bent and in your pocket the phone might get hot so with bending pressure as the phone is made of metal (and glass), heat will cause the bending to be easier while in your pocket and that will cause screen touch problems and volume buttons , I had my phone sent to fix once cuz of that and they said its because of too much pressure applied on the phone with time caused such problems (especially times when its in your pocket while youre sitting.
and my phone pressure is lower than yours but its tested water proof after they fixed it in the lab so no worries
hope i cleared things up
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I think you don't get what I am saying. Mine doesn't go beyond 1007-1008 even when I apply pressure on the display.
So, I have recorded a video, it would be nice if you can do the same.
Thanks.
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Oh, thats what you mean. Apologies.
I can't take a video now, since I'm at work, but when I apply pressure to the screen, the pressure rises. The pressure should rise if the flap is closed. If the flap is open, the pressure won't rise. Since yours does not change, it might mean that there's leakage somewhere in the device. Since you had your phone serviced at a mobile center, have them double check if it is water resistant. If you had yours done at a Sony mobile center, they should be able to perform a water resistance test for you (request that they do it in front of you so you can be sure.)
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mine shows 993 so its less pressure but it doesnt mean its not sealed, lets say (and its just an example) that the least pressure for the phone to be sealed is 900, i got 993, you got 1007, it means we are both fully sealed but yours is pressed harder, kind of like a piece of rubber put it on the ground with water next to it, it wont go through, doesnt matter how hard you apply pressure as long as there is slight pressure.
with that said, more pressure could mean stronger seal BUT it could also indicate that your phone is being pressed harder than it should even on flat state without applying any, which means your phone is slightly bent (the bend of the device is causing pressure on the sensor which leads to more pressure indication) and thats not a good thing, because once that happens, you might notice slight yellowISH spots on the sides of the screen (am I right?) if not then the pressure is not so high but it doesnt mean its not sealed but be careful not to apply more pressure - meaning dont put your phone in your pocket while youre sitting and because your leg is bent and in your pocket the phone might get hot so with bending pressure as the phone is made of metal (and glass), heat will cause the bending to be easier while in your pocket and that will cause screen touch problems and volume buttons , I had my phone sent to fix once cuz of that and they said its because of too much pressure applied on the phone with time caused such problems (especially times when its in your pocket while youre sitting.
and my phone pressure is lower than yours but its tested water proof after they fixed it in the lab so no worries
hope i cleared things up
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Thank you for your explanation, but my pressure doesn't increases on the mobile. That's my biggest worry.
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Oh, thats what you mean. Apologies.
I can't take a video now, since I'm at work, but when I apply pressure to the screen, the pressure rises. The pressure should rise if the flap is closed. If the flap is open, the pressure won't rise. Since yours does not change, it might mean that there's leakage somewhere in the device. Since you had your phone serviced at a mobile center, have them double check if it is water resistant. If you had yours done at a Sony mobile center, they should be able to perform a water resistance test for you (request that they do it in front of you so you can be sure.)
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Yeah, exactly.
When you have time please use AZ Screen Recorder to record the video and do share with me when you have time.
No one?
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Bro mine doesnt add any thing when i apply pressure it stays 993 even if i push hard so im not really sure how that works or where to push but its not a problem as after i once sent my phone to fix they performed a waterproof test and stated in their summary paper that its all good so take it easy its all good haha chill, if you gonna keep digging stuff like this looking for a problem you will never be happy with what you have
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hi guys,
with this post I would invite you to do a last test to verify the impermeability.
This test is similar to the last and I imagine you know very well, the only difference is to close the lanyard hole with a piece of tape; then, with a little weight on the front glass, check the pressure variation. I obtained this result:
initial pressure: 1017,10
With weight: 1018,50
The pressure decreased very very very slowly, for example from 1018,50 to 1018,40 in about 5 minutes.
By the way, pressure never fixed on a precise value.
From what I saw on XDA (guy in a video that closes the lanyard hole and checks the pressure and the topic about the classical pressure test means nothing about how that phone of the guy was full of water inside, after a positive test pressure) I think this is a new little step to have a more accurately test.
The way i checked, I believe is much better,
The best way to test the waterproof ability is to first check pressure *#*#service#*#* on dial pad and go to option to check pressure.
First open a flap and keep it opened, now apply pressure while a flap is open, you will notice the pressure does not increase at all. (Mine stayed at 1020)
Second now make sure all compartments are secure apply pressure on screen you will notice the pressure increases(My phone went to 1029) . If it doesn't that means there is an air leak.
FYI also check if by pressing the power button the pressure does not reduce, cuz I have heard people complain on forums that there power button became loose. Also be careful with your device it has water resistance but wear and tear will affect your phone's water resistance .
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Pressure test
I tried using the pressure sensor on the service tests to know if my xperia z3 is water proof or not. Whenever I put pressure to my phone the numbers don't go up. It only goes up to one number (from 1006 to 1007 sometimes 1006 to 1007 then to 1005) does this mean my phone isn't waterproof?
There is a likelihood of a leak but a small one meaning if there was a gap somewhere it would change only in decimals, so less than 3 points from rest state is still a lot less than I experienced . Recheck ur flaps and the rubber around the flap plus check around the power button and lastly carefully inspect the device closely for any gaps.
Sometimes the black rubber lining the flap might be twisted or damaged which can be easily repaired.If it's around the button area or between the metal and plastic u r out of luck. Check for hairline cracks as well.
This is bothering me now, is it everything okay here, to install new glass?
Duzzy5 said:
This is bothering me now, is it everything okay here, to install new glass?
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Few words of descriprion would not hurt...
Is that your battery inflated or something else?
Anyway I would not advice you force it since you can damage display...
nedooo said:
Few words of descriprion would not hurt...
Is that your battery inflated or something else?
Anyway I would not advice you force it since you can damage display...
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what bothers me is this spot, i highlighted in photo attached. it is rised and is higherthan the border where glass should sit. so i imagine it will not help adhesive to touch border where glass needs to stick. battery is ok, phone is fully working, bought second hand phone and back glass was changed and peeled off itself, so i suspect this may be the reason?
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what bothers me is this spot, i highlighted in photo attached. it is rised and is higherthan the border where glass should sit. so i imagine it will not help adhesive to touch border where glass needs to stick. battery is ok, phone is fully working, bought second hand phone and back glass was changed and peeled off itself, so i suspect this may be the reason?
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Oh I see. So as I said do not force it, or you will at least have those bright spots on display, you or someone who is more experienced should disassemble that part, there is a flex display connector which goes trough the hole in phone frame mid body from front, and flex goes through it and bends so it could connect from back side. I hope you could understand this description (there are few videos of Z3 disassemble, check them out)...
So redo that part assembly carefully and at the end it should be below frame level in order not to make any pressure to the back glass...
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Oh I see. So as I said do not force it, or you will at least have those bright spots on display, you or someone who is more experienced should disassemble that part, there is a flex display connector which goes trough the hole in phone frame mid body from front, and flex goes through it and bends so it could connect from back side. I hope you could understand this description (there are few videos of Z3 disassemble, check them out)...
So redo that part assembly carefully and at the end it should be below frame level in order not to make any pressure to the back glass...
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So how it looks now, is not okay, it shouldnt be risen like that?
In dissambly video this place looks about the same
Hey everyone.
I purchased my phone through duty free, unlocked so after checking with local Samsung repair center they told me my warranty is not applicable in the country i live in, because i purchased the phone in duty free. This is not an official Samsung repair center, just a random one authorized by Samsung btw.
Either way, the issue is that the back glass is slightly lifting on one side/ corner. The top right corner (Next to the heart rate sensor) is slightly unstuck from the body, and it creates a tiny little gap, which ends up running down the side of the phone a little.
I have tried finding a solution and no luck. What i want to know is, if i take a heat gun, and give the back glass a blast under the heat gun in order to warm up the glue, and then apply some pressure evenly across the back glass, will that do the trick? Is it even safe to do so ?
Thanks for the help and if necessary i can try submit some pictures.
It should be safe to do as long as you don't heat it up too much as to cause the internals of the phone to get over-stressed. I would power down your phone and make sure it is cooled before starting the process. You don't want it turned on and then your phone decide that it wants to update 20 apps and cause it to heat up any more than it already is.
Also, be gentle with applying pressure to the glass, if you happened to have dropped it and warped the frame that would explain why the glass is lifting up, and if you press too hard it may break it. Just be careful and you should be fine. It's not a guaranteed fix but it's a safe method to try out.
If you need help on using the heat gun just look online for videos of repairing phone screens, plenty of them use heat guns to get the adhesive loosened up and almost always state what temperature to set it to. I feel like it was around 700°F (370°C) last I looked, but don't quote me on that.
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It should be safe to do as long as you don't heat it up too much as to cause the internals of the phone to get over-stressed. I would power down your phone and make sure it is cooled before starting the process. You don't want it turned on and then your phone decide that it wants to update 20 apps and cause it to heat up any more than it already is.
Also, be gentle with applying pressure to the glass, if you happened to have dropped it and warped the frame that would explain why the glass is lifting up, and if you press too hard it may break it. Just be careful and you should be fine. It's not a guaranteed fix but it's a safe method to try out.
If you need help on using the heat gun just look online for videos of repairing phone screens, plenty of them use heat guns to get the adhesive loosened up and almost always state what temperature to set it to. I feel like it was around 700°F (370°C) last I looked, but don't quote me on that.
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Thanks a lot for the reply. I will try give it a shot over the weekend. The phone is in perfect conditions and has never been dropped. In fact when i press down on the glass, it kinda slots back into place, but then sticks back out, so i'm assuming its un-even adhesive or whatever the case is with it. In reality its such an un-noticeable issue, but you know how it is... once you know its there, that's the only thing you notice
I wonder if anyone else had this issue because i found a YouTuber who actually also had his back glass un-stick from the body
Sorry to hear about your luck. I would think it goes without saying, but it will probably no longer be waterproof.
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Sorry to hear about your luck. I would think it goes without saying, but it will probably no longer be waterproof.
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Yeah, i already came to that realization. Thanks anyway !
Did you get it to work?
I am having the same issue as you had and I wondered if you came up with a solution???
Gme12528 said:
I am having the same issue as you had and I wondered if you came up with a solution???
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From my experience doing so does not work. You need to replace the adhesive which is easy to do, what is more difficult is sourcing an OEM one
Hi guys, please see pictures. Is this normal?
There's a tiny gap between my top side of the screen and the frame (fits 2 lotto papers easily.)
It is annoying because the bottom side is perfect; the back side is also perfect.
Any body has this problem?
Hey, well i was curios too, .... for me the top is very very tight , close and no gap , no paper is going in.
But for the bottom is not, easy enter a papper in the gap , and you can see it .
I'm not concern about the bottom beacuse i will NOT put it in water !
Check my pictures ( recomend use , and google plus classic , for zoom
https://plus.google.com/photos/113360088344058276817/albums/6369905804234775025
Wasn't this answered elsewhere, in that the gap is deliberate to allow for expansions and contractions in temperature? We may need to be careful not to become too paranoid with the design, as some will gratuitously return the handsets which may raise the bar for those with a genuine warranty claim. If it's a waterproofing concern, I don't think we're supposed to be submerging the handsets, which are more water resistant than waterproof as I understand it. Apologies if this sounds a bit "preachy" and feel free to correct me if I'm way off here......
On my unit the top, bottom and the left side of the screen/frame connection are tight, but the right side where the power button is does have sligthly bigger gap, very tiny difference.
I'm sure if the phone passes the pressure test, it shouldn't be a concern about it beeing water resistant.
If it doesn't pass the pressure test, take it to service and demand a new one.
But If you go to a dealer and look at other phones on a store display you'll see they all have this tiny gap somwhere, not each on the same place, so I guess it's there for a reason and there's a tolerance for it.
As I said, if it passes pressure test, don't worry about it and don't try to adjust it or re-glue it or something.
I have the same gap on the bottom edge. Washed my phone many times, took showers with it. I dont have any issues.
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I have the same gap on the bottom edge. Washed my phone many times, took showers with it. I dont have any issues.
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One has to ask, why?? All you need to do is wipe your phone with a cloth dampened with anti-bacterial spray. These phones are water resistant, not waterproof.
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One has to ask, why?? All you need to do is wipe your phone with a cloth dampened with anti-bacterial spray. These phones are water resistant, not waterproof.
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You are right. I was irresponsible. Always wanted to do it though
Does anyone have screen bleed issues? I'm having a tough time identifying if there are any. Can someone post pictures for reference?
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Does anyone have screen bleed issues? I'm having a tough time identifying if there are any. Can someone post pictures for reference?
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No I don't have any screen bleeding issue.
But if you aren't sure use an all blck wallpaper and if you see whitish tone near the edges your screen is bleeding.
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No I don't have any screen bleeding issue.
But if you aren't sure use an all blck wallpaper and if you see whitish tone near the edges your screen is bleeding.
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Perhaps a white wallpaper would show any particular screen bleeding than black wallpaper.
I dont need to post pictures, there is rather noticeable bleeding all around the display when using dark wallpaper when brightness is set to more rhan 50% (indoor usage). Especially on top and bottom edge of the display.
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I dont need to post pictures, there is rather noticeable bleeding all around the display when using dark wallpaper when brightness is set to more rhan 50% (indoor usage). Especially on top and bottom edge of the display.
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You don't need to, sir/ma'am, but it'll help a lot if you did.
Sorry sir/ma'am, but i have nothing to take pictures with
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Sorry sir/ma'am, but i have nothing to take pictures with
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That's unfortunate sir/ma'am but I guess it can't be helped.
You are quite correct sir/ma'am, it is unfortunate. I am, however, sorry that i could not be of any help to you regarding this matter.
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You are quite correct sir/ma'am, it is unfortunate. I am, however, sorry that i could not be of any help to you regarding this matter.
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You need not apologize sir/ma'am, it's not your fault to begin with.
I am facing an issue that is I am getting a vertical line in the above center of the screen which is only seen when i turn off the screen. It isn't a scratch but it feels like the display is burned or something. I don't know why it is happening. I have cleaned the device but that is not getting rid of it. I am thinking to go to service centre to get a replacement or something. Btw i play pubg alot, maybe it is the reason. But this should not a good sign of every RN7Pro customer !
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I am facing an issue that is I am getting a vertical line in the above center of the screen which is only seen when i turn off the screen. It isn't a scratch but it feels like the display is burned or something. I don't know why it is happening. I have cleaned the device but that is not getting rid of it. I am thinking to go to service centre to get a replacement or something. Btw i play pubg alot, maybe it is the reason. But this should not a good sign of every RN7Pro customer !
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These are some pictures of this i don't know correct word "screen bleed,Screenburn"
And it's definitely not a scratch !!!!
modit5 said:
These are some pictures of this i don't know correct word "screen bleed,Screenburn"
And it's definitely not a scratch !!!!
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That's new to me and is quite strange to see. Doesn't look like screen bleed or burn though. Do get it checked at the service centre, and, if possible, enquire from them as to what caused it and keep us updated. Also, playing pubg shouldn't have such drastic effects on a device.
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That's new to me and is quite strange to see. Doesn't look like screen bleed or burn though. Do get it checked at the service centre, and, if possible, enquire from them as to what caused it and keep us updated. Also, playing pubg shouldn't have such drastic effects on a device.
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Yeah it's really strange!
I don't know if i will get replacement or what coz i bought this 20 days ago.
Let's see what happen.
I've had a similar issue on my old phone. Either you have been cleaning your screen too much (so much that you have "cleaned" away a part of the oleophobic coating) or you have been playing games too much (sliding your finger along the same part of the screen and your sweat dissolved the oleophobic coating little by little). Try placing a couple of water drops on that part of the screen and also on different part of the screen (where there is no "smudge" ). You'll see a difference in the water drop shape. As far as i know, there is no way to restore factory applied oleophobic coating to its original condition.
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I've had a similar issue on my old phone. Either you have been cleaning your screen too much (so much that you have "cleaned" away a part of the oleophobic coating) or you have been playing games too much (sliding your finger along the same part of the screen and your sweat dissolved the oleophobic coating little by little). Try placing a couple of water drops on that part of the screen and also on different part of the screen (where there is no "smudge" ). You'll see a difference in the water drop shape. As far as i know, there is no way to restore factory applied oleophobic coating to its original condition.
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I quite agree with you 2nd point of playing game that is pubg as I already mentioned and as you said "sliding your fingers along same part of the screen" Yes, this could be the reason as the joystick is on the left and it's always sliding there and as the device gets heated I get sweat on my thumb. But I have been playing pubg on my recent Note 5 Pro, I never got any sort of smudge. By the way it's not a cheap phone as it has best specs. But I did not expect this issue and yes I have cleaned with water but it's now permanent. I am little worried about the phone as I will go to the service center today to get replacement or whatever they will say. I will let you all know what will be the result.
Unfortunately, no oleophobic coating is perfect as it will wear off every device/surface over time. It depends on how one uses his/hers phone. I can only speculate that since RN5P and RN7P have different screen materials, the oleophobic coating will perform differently on each device. There are also other factors at play. I hope the service centre will give you a replacement unit, but this case scenario falls under "normal wear and tear" category which is, to my knowledge, not considered as a device defect. Anyway, there are some products out there that claim to restore/reapply the oleophobic coating of a screen, but i really doubt their efficacy. I guess you have nothing to loose if you wish to try some out, but even if they work, their efficacy will not be near as good as a factory applied coating. Good luck.
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Unfortunately, no oleophobic coating is perfect as it will wear off every device/surface over time. It depends on how one uses his/hers phone. I can only speculate that since RN5P and RN7P have different screen materials, the oleophobic coating will perform differently on each device. There are also other factors at play. I hope the service centre will give you a replacement unit, but this case scenario falls under "normal wear and tear" category which is, to my knowledge, not considered as a device defect. Anyway, there are some products out there that claim to restore/reapply the oleophobic coating of a screen, but i really doubt their efficacy. I guess you have nothing to loose if you wish to try some out, but even if they work, their efficacy will not be near as good as a factory applied coating. Good luck.
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Unfortunately, service center only said that this is the first time that this problem we have faced and said you can only get the new lcd panel inspite of replacing the device.
So now I have to replace the lcd panel and have to wait for 7-10 days with submitting my phone to the service center! Without submitting the device they will not replace the lcd which is sad.
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I am facing an issue that is I am getting a vertical line in the above center of the screen which is only seen when i turn off the screen. It isn't a scratch but it feels like the display is burned or something. I don't know why it is happening. I have cleaned the device but that is not getting rid of it. I am thinking to go to service centre to get a replacement or something. Btw i play pubg alot, maybe it is the reason. But this should not a good sign of every RN7Pro customer !
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Playing PUBG a lot doesn't cause screen bleeding, lol. You might have physically damaged the phone consciously or not knowingly.
AbhiAbhiBisht said:
Playing PUBG a lot doesn't cause screen bleeding, lol. You might have physically damaged the phone consciously or not knowingly.
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I respect you answer!
But do you know that I have been using this device since 25 days, thereafter, my device had not felt even once.
Secondly, I use this device with cover that is provided in the mi store worth 349 which is very safe and good cover.
Fortunately, the device was all good when I opened the box and there was no spot, but I have noticed that spot after 15 to 20 days.
I thought that is is nothing just a smudge which can be cleared with a cloth but it doesn't get rid of it.
If I damaged the Device physically then a scratch must be there on the screen where there is a spot, so there is not even a single scratch. By the way if I have damaged it myself then I have to mention that thing in the thread, as I mentioned playing PUBG, because I had a doubt that when I play PUBG daily 3-4 hours the device is heated a lot above the center portion and the place where the spot is as same as the joystick of pubg which is used continuously ! Lastly I had no screen guard on the screen !
modit5 said:
I respect you answer!
But do you know that I have been using this device since 25 days, thereafter, my device had not felt even once.
Secondly, I use this device with cover that is provided in the mi store worth 349 which is very safe and good cover.
Fortunately, the device was all good when I opened the box and there was no spot, but I have noticed that spot after 15 to 20 days.
I thought that is is nothing just a smudge which can be cleared with a cloth but it doesn't get rid of it.
If I damaged the Device physically then a scratch must be there on the screen where there is a spot, so there is not even a single scratch. By the way if I have damaged it myself then I have to mention that thing in the thread, as I mentioned playing PUBG, because I had a doubt that when I play PUBG daily 3-4 hours the device is heated a lot above the center portion and the place where the spot is as same as the joystick of pubg which is used continuously ! Lastly I had no screen guard on the screen !
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Can you provide some photos so we can help you better