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Honor Magic tucks Huawei's latest smarts into a slab of glass
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
Huawei Honor Magic Official: Curved On All Eight Sides, Intelligent Magic Live Assistant (Everything you need to know)
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Honor Magic Review (Use Google Chrome translate)
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
Videos:
Launch event handson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhkjMzvunJg
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2ODk4MzMyMA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Disassembling and reinstalling:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIyMzY5Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Added 01/01/2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3T7RRoCkC4
https://kknews.cc/digital/6k9g4l3.html
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11666631-1-1.html
Xiaomi Mix vs Honor Magic
http://www.yzmg.com/shouji/171018.html
http://fonyzciny.startitup.sk/xiaomi-mi-mix-vs-honor-magic/
Added 02/01/2017:
Xiaomi Note 2 vs Honor Magic
http://www.1885888.com/licai/1597127x.shtml
Good quality images of the Honor Magic:
http://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404057438549622002
http://www.v4.cc/News-3233254.html
http://photo.weibo.com/1094293345/talbum/detail/photo_id/4058066245383655?prel=p6_3#4058066245383660
https://www.behance.net/gallery/46762767/-Magic
Added 03/01/2017:
Camera performance
http://www.honor.cn/brand/brand-news-detail/131113/
Added 07/01/2017:
Detailed review in Italian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI6y4OjTdM0
Phonearena handson at CES 2017:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...e-most-magical-smartphone-of-CES-2017_id89734
High quality unboxing photos:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11762304-1-1.html
Added 08/01/2017:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11782464-1-1.html
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11741705-1-1.html
Added 16/01/2017:
http://www.cfan.com.cn/2017/0113/128032.shtml
Mi Mix vs Honor Magic (video)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3MjYxMzc4OA==.html?spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0.0Wolln&from=s1.8-1-1.2
Added 17/01/2017:
http://www.yzmg.com/pingce/172230.html
Added 18/01/2017:
Great dismantling images:
http://mobile.zol.com.cn/slide/624/6244727_1.html#p=1
Added: 22/01/2017
Honor magic camera shots
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4948658196?pn=1
Review from China:
http://www.dgtle.com/article-17108-1.html
Some gorgeous images from the same site:
http://www.dgtle.com/article-16911-1.html
10/02/2017
Review after 1 month use
http://www.shafa.com/articles/zFljfGMvXAVnOjBT.html
Mi Mix vs Honor magic
http://tech.qianlong.com/2017/0210/1387822.shtml
In reply to your previous post, I live in Hong Kong, I have pre ordered it on JD.com, I can visit china anytime. i will see if huawei official store have them, I don't like purchase online, so I prefer a instore purchase, worse case, is I don't buy one, i't not important.
Do you know if the magic is a limited edition, I mean limited supply, or will they stop production after awhile.
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Do you know if the magic is a limited edition, I mean limited supply, or will they stop production after awhile.
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No i haven't seen any talk of it being a limited edition or any tone that implies that.
It should sell no different to the Honor 6 plus in which the dual camera was first tested before it was implemented on other Huawei phones.
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No i haven't seen any talk of it being a limited edition or any tone that implies that.
It should sell no different to the Honor 6 plus in which the dual camera was first tested before it was implemented on other Huawei phones.
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So even if I wait for a few more weeks or months, they should be constant supply, ive already have a LG V20 and a Sony Xperia X performance so i'm not in a rush.
I was getting ready to buy the Beyerdynamic Xelento IEM, then I heard about the Magic, if there is no rush I will probably get the IEM first, so I can skip all the inflations, but during my visit to china on ther 9th January ( I visit china 1-2 a month), and if I do see it, I can pick one up, but i'm not going to buy it if the price is inflated, thats why I ask if they have a limited supply or a dead line before they stop selling it. But due to the high cost in making this curve screen, not sure if Huawei will keep selling the magic.
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So even if I wait for a few more weeks or months, they should be constant supply, ive already have a LG V20 and a Sony Xperia X performance so i'm not in a rush.
I was getting ready to buy the Beyerdynamic Xelento IEM, then I heard about the Magic, if there is no rush I will probably get the IEM first, so I can skip all the inflations, but during my visit to china on ther 9th January ( I visit china 1-2 a month), and if I do see it, I can pick one up, but i'm not going to buy it if the price is inflated, thats why I ask if they have a limited supply or a dead line before they stop selling it. But due to the high cost in making this curve screen, not sure if Huawei will keep selling the magic.
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If price is inflated more than 7-8% id say its not worth it in your case since there is no other shipping costs involved. If your not really crazy about getting the phone, then 1-2 months you can get the phone with original price id say. But since im crazy about getting it, i wont mind if it inflated less than 7-8%.
The curved screen is there on the Mate 9 pro as well. I even see that the screen alone as a spare part for Honor magic is available for sale online. So i don't think that will be an issue. From what it seems, the curved screen is going to feature on P10 and other Huawei top end phones next year like the dual camera this year.
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If price is inflated more than 7-8% id say its not worth it in your case.
The curved screen is there on the Mate 9 pro as well. I even see that the screen alone as a spare part for Honor magic is available for sale online. So i don't think that will be an issue. From what it seems, the curved screen is going to feature on P10 and other Huawei top end phones next year like the dual camera this year.
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In that case, holding back is probably a good idea, but will see if it's available on the 9th.
It looks gorgeous, but I wish there wasn't a button on the front
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It looks gorgeous, but I wish there wasn't a button on the front
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I agree probably looks better, of have a touch sensitive one without any markings.
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I agree probably looks better, of have a touch sensitive one without any markings.
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It looks samsung-ish with that placement, especially with the curved display
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It looks samsung-ish with that placement, especially with the curved display
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The Mate 9 pro looks more Samsung from the front, but the Honor magic has lots of differences i doubt anyone would confuse it as S7 edge.
I wonder which phone Honor will be unveiling tomorrow CES 2017. The teasers are about the camera but Honor magic hasn't brought anything new to the camera.
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The Mate 9 pro looks more Samsung from the front, but the Honor magic has lots of differences i doubt anyone would confuse it as S7 edge.
I wonder which phone Honor will be unveiling tomorrow CES 2017. The teasers are about the camera but Honor magic hasn't brought anything new to the camera.
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It's 90% honor 6x, but I hope for something better
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It's 90% honor 6x, but I hope for something better
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But nothing news worthy about 6x either that they would unveil it on a CES. I'm guessing a new phone with some new dual camera tech or honor phone that uses the Mate 9 20mp dual camera, along with 6x budget offering.
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But nothing news worthy about 6x either that they would unveil it on a CES. I'm guessing a new phone with some new dual camera tech or honor phone that uses the Mate 9 20mp dual camera, along with 6x budget offering.
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I wish this will happen
Review in Italian http://andreagaleazzi.com/recensione/honor-magic-recensione/
Video review in German
http://winfuture.de/videos/Hardware...stung-mit-kleinen-magischen-Extras-17433.html
cool!
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Hey guys, maybe its just that I'm getting bored of this phone but after nearly 2 years I think its time to get a new one.
Been thinking about nexus 2017 lineup, maybe a xiaomi phone or lately (mainly because of its price and battery) the new moto z play. I'm not willing to pay a lot this time as I did 2 years ago.
What do you guys think? would moto z play be a good replacement phone for moto maxx? Is there any other phone you can think of that can be a good replacement?
ZTE Axon 7
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$400 with free shipping in the U.S.
If gold is too flashy for you also comes in a gray/silver look.
5.5" 1440p AMOLED
Fantastic hi-fidelity stereo audio with front facing speakers
20MP rear camera + OIS
8MP selfie camera
Snapdragon 820
4GB RAM
64GB internal memory + microSD slot (128GB cards available)
It is also among the first devices to support "Daydream" -- Google's mobile virtual reality engine. (for bragging rights, you know)
specs:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/ZTE-Axon-7_id10068/fullspecs
It's what Motorola should have done instead of the silly mods on the Moto Z series. It has everything already built in! No need to pay extra cost to add stereo speakers, and such.
Here's ZTE Axon 7 ($400) vs Galaxy S7 Edge ($800)
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/ZTE-Axon-7,Samsung-Galaxy-S7-edge/phones/10068,9818?ft=2
Seriously, look at the specs and realize that's a $400 phone vs an $800 phone!
Just wished it had Qi wireless charging and I'd be buying 3 of them! Instead I'll wait for next year's Samsung Galaxy Edge as Samsung seems to be the only ones still doing Qi wireless. My Quarks will last me another year. We use two daily and I have one in a box -- never touched -- as backup.
The only thing that worries me is updates and the future of the phone....and maybe price a little bit( moto z play would cost me 250 usd )
mathab said:
The only thing that worries me is updates and the future of the phone....and maybe price a little bit( moto z play would cost me 250 usd )
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Your current phone is better than Moto Z Play! 1080p? Snapdragon 600 series?
Last year's LG G4 is even better than Moto Z Play. I didn't know you wanted mid-tier. I thought you were looking at Moto Z. I didn't read well enough.
ZTE AXON 7 will have unlocked bootloader. Devs will be all over it, especially at that price. It has better specs than Nexus will, at Nexus prices. It matches most (and beats a couple) Galaxy S7 Edge specs, at half the price.
ChazzMatt said:
Your current phone is better than Moto Z Play! 1080p? Snapdragon 600 series?
Last year's LG G4 is even better than Moto Z Play. I didn't know you wanted mid-tier. I thought you were looking at Moto Z. I didn't read well enough.
ZTE AXON 7 will have unlocked bootloader. Devs will be all over it, especially at that price. It has better specs than Nexus will, at Nexus prices. It matches most (and beats a couple) Galaxy S7 Edge specs, at half the price.
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Just realized it has SD625, I was thinking it had the 650 or 652 with the A72 cores
If it wasn't cause of you I may have bought it.
Now I'm trying to decide if I buy the Axon 7 or just wait for this year nexus and hope I can afford one
They're less than month away. I say wait, and you if you don't like them / can't afford them get the Axon. Perhaps you can even get a used Axon or a deal then.
Also remember that paying for something good isn't necessarily a bad deal. I paid $800 for my Quark and it's still running great. Never had a phone last me this much.
ChazzMatt said:
ZTE AXON 7 will have unlocked bootloader. Devs will be all over it, especially at that price. It has better specs than Nexus will, at Nexus prices. It matches most (and beats a couple) Galaxy S7 Edge specs, at half the price.
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Told you devs would jump on it.
This dev got unofficial CM13 for it before he even got his phone. Only got his phone today (September 13)... ROM was up days ago (September 8, 2016). Now, he'll start fixing what doesn't work.
[ROM][UNOFFICIAL]CyanogenMod 13 for ZTE Axon 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/cyanogenmod-13-a2017u-t3457410
Some user bought him the phone.
Unjustified Dev said:
Let's all thank @B4oE for purchasing me a device which I now have in my hands.
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Xshooter726 said:
Today is a good day We made it to top forum discussions and you finally got your phone!
Really surprised how you even got a build up with fixes while not even having the phone lol.
Can only imagine what you'll do now that you actually have the phone. RIP MiFavor!
Thanks @B4oE for making it possible.
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Again, just wished it had Qi wireless charging and I'd be buying three of them. Except for that it's about a perfect phone, at least specs on paper. Good dev work will make it even better.
The now also have TWRP.
[RECOVERY][UNOFFICIAL] TWRP 3.0.2-2 touch recovery for ZTE Axon 7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/development/a2017u-twrp-3-0-2-0-touch-recovery-zte-t3439603
Honor 9 vs OnePlus 5
The Honor 9 has been compared to the OnePlus 5 many times in reviews. Both phones have similar specs, same price range and are two of the fastest phones available. This chart compares design, features, performance and usability of the two phones to see which is the better choice. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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Honor 9 due to its handy size for sure and the blue color. Wish to own one
I will get a honor when they match the developer friendliness of Oneplus/OPPO
Again and again the hard choice stock Android or customer skin ??
I bought the Honor 9 because the Op5 was $150 more. Would have opted for the Op5 but my budget just wouldn't allow me to.
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I just hope that someone from USA should file a legal suit on Honor brand because they promised the same 2 year software update policy and launched H8 there, that would teach a lesson to them. Brands like these won't sustain in the long run and they will quickly fall from the current rise once consumers lose their confidence.
Moto recently faced a back lash from social media and users alike for not including g4 plus in Oreo update, later they apologized and updated the list.
Consumers won't forget anything soon and these kind of things definitely hamper a brand's image and reputation.
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The quick update moto died when lenovo bought them. it was easy to maintain and update almost stock rom when you only have 2 model lineup. now that they have c, e, g, m, x and z plus god knows how many lenovo models, I don't think they could keep up with the update demand.
Do you have any idea when they will launch Honor 9 in India ? I am really tempted by stylish Honor or should I go for Moto X 4? I prefer 5 inch phones for one handed use.
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Do you have any idea when they will launch Honor 9 in India ? I am really tempted by stylish Honor or should I go for Moto X 4? I prefer 5 inch phones for one handed use.
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No idea on launch date. Hope they launch soon. May be December end or January start. Lets see
having owned a honor 9 for a few months, i have to say the oneplus 5 is the better device, less bloated, and a much more enjoyable experience, also it's not trying to copy iOS.
ashypanda said:
having owned a honor 9 for a few months, i have to say the oneplus 5 is the better device, less bloated, and a much more enjoyable experience, also it's not trying to copy iOS.
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replace the stock launcher with Nova or other, change the theme and you'll get better looking interface. Op5 surely didn't copy iOS but it surely looks exactly like the iPhone 7 plus
Definitely honor 9..its a beauty..
Really, the Honor wins the comparison due to the color of it's body? I would never ever buy a phone in that color. The black of the OnePlus 5 is so beautiful. Oh, and they say in the last sentence about the OP5, "The bezels are large.". Sorry? How are the bezels larger than on the Honor?
This infographic is BS.
XDA looses credibility when this kind of sponsored BS is indistinguishable from a real reviews. this graphic looks nice, but doesn't really compare anything.
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Very true, don't know why XDA agreed to promote such an inconsistent and not so dev. friendly brand??, op5 is miles ahead of Honor 9, stop comparing apples to oranges.
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Butthurt much? Sound like idiots apple fans
Unfairand said:
Never support anyone to buy Honor devices, they abandon the capable hardware by saying OS updates not possible due to compatibility issues with SOC, they did it with Honor 7. Bought Honor 8 for 29k INR over OnePlus 3, it's not even been a year since launch, now h8 retailing at half of the original price, where as op3 still selling at 26K INR, I regret my decision of buying and supporting Honor 8 over OP3 ,OP3 already into Oreo beta , where as Honor is trying to abandon the H8 with out updates, never buy these brands like Honor and Xiaomi, they are good for low cost cheap vfm mobiles where consumers look for pricing than to premium features, Lost trust in Honor brand, no developer friendliness, poor update support, they promised 2 year software update policy on H8, it got launched in Nov 2016 in India , just one year old and they abandoned the device already , and I suggest XDA don't lose their reputation by promoting such a kind of brand.
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Thank you for advice, it is a good reason to buy OP5. I still couldn't decide what phone is better, but support is definitely an important thing.
autoalex said:
Thank you for advice, it is a good reason to buy OP5. I still couldn't decide what phone is better, but support is definitely an important thing.
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I would go with the Op5 if the price is the same
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I would go with the Op5 if the price is the same
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I use Samsung now, and I doubting to buy China phone
After getting my redmi note 3 prime and a taste of a amazing developer community. I will never ever buy a phone without that. Even though the Honor looks cool.
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Do you have any idea when they will launch Honor 9 in India ? I am really tempted by stylish Honor or should I go for Moto X 4? I prefer 5 inch phones for one handed use.
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Highly unlikely , they will not launch Honor 9,we already got the Honor 8 Pro which is better than Honor 9,better screen and camera + many more ... lets wait and see what honor will launch on 5th December..
rindikafanai said:
Highly unlikely , they will not launch Honor 9,we already got the Honor 8 Pro which is better than Honor 9,better screen and camera + many more ... lets wait and see what honor will launch on 5th December..
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Probably they will launch something with dual front cam and Bezel less body |OO| phone. May launch H9 as successor to H8 due to size and improved camera.
Vivo is top brand in china right now. I wonder how much of this is a result of Vivo NEX ?
I think if they would lower price a little a lot more people would buy it.. like 100 dollars cheaper or something would make big difference in sales
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/11/...in-china-in-q3-2018-followed-closely-by-oppo/
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Well actually BBK group is the largest Chinese manufacturer and includes Vivo,Oppo and OnePlus.
And all of three produce high cost smartphone even in mainland China.
Vivo and Oppo selling majority in Asia and OnePlus in Europe and India.
And even higher cost devices produced their between the top brand in China(Vivo-Oppo) and OnePlus in India and Europe.
NAM = North America, LATAM = Latin America, MEA = Middle East, CEE = Central & Eastern Europe, WE = Western Europe, APAC = Asia-Pacific
https://www.counterpointresearch.co...dium=email&utm_campaign=newsletterseptember20
There’s very useful observation can anyone read at above link.
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according to this news article the vivo nex was sold in 2 million in 6 months
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/12/04/vivo-nex-crosses-2-million-sales-in-just-6-months/
still the dual screen edition is a big mistake
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still the dual screen edition is a big mistake
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I dont think nex 2 will have this solution, I think they just want to try it out and see how people perceive it.
Right now there is too many compromises with a dual screen. When it does not affect thickness, battery capacity and price its a better idea.
overall I think Lenevo Z5 did do a better job it looks more stylish, nex version looks like a prototype in comparison. And the circular Selfie light does not look good at all even if it is functional
One thing is sure dual screen version won’t have the same success as original Vivo Nex.
Simple Vivo experiment with futuristic design and unique style but as much gorgeous is dual screen display has many disadvantages over original Vivo Nex.
The real successor of Vivo Nex will be unveiled sometime in May or June and will have newer Qualcomm 855 SOC and hope 1-2 improvements for example waterproof ip67/68 certification or stereo sound and NFC.
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One thing is sure dual screen version won’t have the same success as original Vivo Nex.
Simple Vivo experiment with futuristic design and unique style but as much gorgeous is dual screen display has many disadvantages over original Vivo Nex.
The real successor of Vivo Nex will be unveiled sometime in May or June and will have newer Qualcomm 855 SOC and hope 1-2 improvements for example waterproof ip67/68 certification or stereo sound and NFC.
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I hope Vivo Nex will follow same pop up design , I hope it does not jump into the slide trend.
Pop up solution will hopefully be easier to convince people that it is reliable after from what I have seen no reported problem on failing motors on the selfie camera. Its good that Vivo offer different type of solutions rather then just putting all money into one solution, I like when they give us choice, which has been less and less the last years since the statistics of high volume sells have become more important for manufactures they want to have less models so they can brag about they sell more then iphone etc rather then offering more models how it was in the past. Huawei did do a good job offer a real phablet size of mate 20 x .
People in general think the pop up camera is a cool solution but the general consensus from the people is that they think the motors will break over time. Of course only time can judge that, I think people are way too skeptical about it, most people don't have their phone more then 2 years, the battery will be worthless in 2 years so I would worry more about the battery personally.
Even if we ditch the motorized solution, I dont think we should adop the slider solution, it compromises too much of the robustness of the general body, also makes it more vulnerable for dust and dirt. A spring based solution for the pop up camera is also and idea. What most people are worried about is that if the motor dies the camera gets unusable, to send into service is not a option since vivo dont have service centers outside china more or less, but in case the motor go bad there should be a spring inside so you can atleast pop up the camera with the spring when you push at the pop up area of the phone. Otherwise all we can do is see and wait how well the motors pass. Personally I have not been using the selfie camera alot of times ,I doubt I have even open it 1000 times in the last few months for instance. If you use snapchat alot and have not blocked selfie camera access I guess this number will go up fast.
The news about view 20 can be found everywhere except this forum. That's weird.
Here is the summary of XDA reports about Honor view 20 showcase in Hong Kong so far:
1. The in-screen hole display
Honor claims View 20 in-display hole is 4.5mm, 1.5mm smaller than Samsung A8s's solution. It is somehow a little awkward Samsung's and Honor 's showcases fell on the same day. But I think Honor wins this round.
Although it seems a mere 1.5mm difference doesn't matter too much, I believe that’s a big improvement in the display craftsmanship. Good job, Honor.
I like the hole-punch screen (compared with the ugly notch) and it actually extends the screen to body ratio to a high level, nearly 100%. If 2018 is the year of notch, hole seems the new trend in the coming 2019.
2. 48MP rear camera
It may become the first phone with 48-megapixel camera, powered by Sony’s IMX586 CMOS sensor. This report said this sensor has good performance in low-light shooting and zooming in on photos taken from a distance. In addition, Kirin 980 chipset with the dual-ISP and dual-NPU can provide a better image quality with more details.
PS: Wanna figure out how much detailed can the image be? Anyone can find any sample pictures?
3. Link Turbo
According to XDA reports, this is “an AI feature that allows simultaneous downloads over WiFi and 4G. “ Samsung released similar feature before but I never heard about it.
“Link Turbo also enables better switching between WiFi and 4G depending on signal strength.”
This sounds very powerful but I still feel confused how will it works. So here comes a key point: how much will view 20 price be?
Just check the price of A8s (https://gadgets.ndtv.com/samsung-galaxy-a8s-5759), it is about 29,900 INR, equal to 420 USD( that’s in high price range though).
So I guess Honor View20 may be more expensive than Samsung A8s?
Because with smaller hole and better rear camara (Samsung A8s: 24MP, Honor View20: 48MP), it seems unreasonable to lower the price…
Feel free to share your thoughts and update what you can find about View 20 info below.
I also will update what I find here.
Update (12.26):
The price in China is released!
6GB RAM + 128GB of storage for ¥2999 ($435),
8GB RAM + 128GB of storage for ¥3499 ($510),
the “MOSCHINO” version with 8GB RAM +256 GB of storage for ¥3999 ($580).
What do you think of the price value?
View20 launch news: https://www.xda-developers.com/honor-view20-launches-48mp-rear-camera-display-hole/
this quote on the XDA page:
Note: Huawei has stopped providing official bootloader unlock codes for its devices. Therefore, the bootloader of the Honor View 20 cannot be unlocked, which means that users cannot root or install custom ROMs.
I was aware you could not load a custom rom with a locked bootloader, but my understanding was you could root the dveice still, can anyone confirm? I don't care at all about custom roms but I can't live without root.
flamery said:
this quote on the XDA page:
Note: Huawei has stopped providing official bootloader unlock codes for its devices. Therefore, the bootloader of the Honor View 20 cannot be unlocked, which means that users cannot root or install custom ROMs.
I was aware you could not load a custom rom with a locked bootloader, but my understanding was you could root the dveice still, can anyone confirm? I don't care at all about custom roms but I can't live without root.
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There is still no way to unlock the phone though. I don't think view20 will have it. somebody said Funkyhuawei can help you root but you need to buy the unlock code. I use an Honor 8X but I'm fine to use without rooting as all the specs work well.
Now View 20 haven't released so we can wait and see if someone can find a way to unlock it.
I agree we need to wait for release before coming to any conclusions. But I still think the statement on XDA is incorrect, root on this device should be possible whether its locked boot loader or not. ref: https://www.quora.com/Is-it-necessary-to-unlock-bootloader-before-rooting-Android-phones
Countdown posters guessing
Waiting for the View20 launch in China today.
I Found some countdown posters on Honor Phone Chinese weibo.
One is a big "M" and another is a "T".
I guess "M" maybe Maserati? T is technology?
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unboxing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyNIiNLkIs
Looks absolutely incredible, I love the way the notification bar lines up with the camera hole.
Also the headphone jack and SD card are great additions (Although Is suspect it uses the lame hybrid sim tray where you can't use two sims and SD card at the same time).
SirTAVARES said:
Probably gonna change my OnePlus 6 for this badboy
Love the design
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I like the V-shape glossy back design!
Looking forward to its global launch in Jan.
flamery said:
unboxing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmyNIiNLkIs
Looks absolutely incredible, I love the way the notification bar lines up with the camera hole.
Also the headphone jack and SD card are great additions (Although Is suspect it uses the lame hybrid sim tray where you can't use two sims and SD card at the same time).
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Like the unboxing video! So quick!
It's nice to see they keep the 3.5mm headphone as most of phones have removed it.
I found a detailed review here : https://www.androidcentral.com/honor-view-20-review
I think it has the best value in its price range.
https://www.gadgetsnow.com/mobile-phones/Honor-View-20
All the specs are very tempting. hope to have a hands-on review
Will it come to US?
Does it have always on display or notification led?
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Does it have always on display or notification led?
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its LCD so no AOD and no LED
Hmm, to me, removing, for me, basic features, does not seem like a step in right direction, I kinda like knowing about notifications without having to turn on the phone.
With notification led it would be great phone for me, I think. (currently I have nova3 and I hate that notifications are not shown in status bar because of the notch)
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534€ in geekbuying. for the cheapest version.
i dont know, amoled from 6T or v20 design xD
PCT-AL10 only supports 1 band in 4G in my region. so gonna go for 6T
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They haven't released the final price for Global version. So maybe we can wait until the global launch day Jan.22.
In case there is any confusion, this phone does support a memory card, it doesn't use the standard SD-card it uses the Huawei made nano memory card. There is no extra slot for this card, the card is exactly the same size as a nano sim card and therefore to use it, you put it in the sim card tray in place of the secondary sim.
So unfortunately you cannot use two SIM's and a memory card at the same time (very few phones these days do anyway).
Great pricing (although it will be more in EU)
the only thing that annoys me so far, is the fact that it uses Huawei's own technology for memory expansion
Pricing has been released. (Not good news unfortunately for global version)
china
6GB model - $405 USD
8GB model - $480 USB
Global
6GB Model - $630 USD
8GB model - $760 USD
apparently the global version will come with a free Honor smartwatch worth $200 USD
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Pricing has been released. (Not good news unfortunately for global version)
china
6GB model - $405 USD
8GB model - $480 USB
Global
6GB Model - $630 USD
8GB model - $760 USD
apparently the global version will come with a free Honor smartwatch worth $200 USD
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Really? Where did you see the price? Coz it hasn't been released yet.
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Pricing has been released. (Not good news unfortunately for global version)
china
6GB model - $405 USD
8GB model - $480 USB
Global
6GB Model - $630 USD
8GB model - $760 USD
apparently the global version will come with a free Honor smartwatch worth $200 USD
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Whaaaaat?!
If it's true that's more expensive compared to the 1+6T.
Some reported screen bleed is bad at the bottom
Rollout: just a few minutes ago.
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Does it feel smooth? I'm currently deciding if I should buy this phone or the Mate 20 lite (I'm buying with Tre at the same price), I really like the screen and the camera but the SoC is slower on the A7. As long as it is a smooth UI I'll buy this one, since I'm not that interested in graphics demanding games and CPU intensive apps, I just need it to be usable without lags and random freezes.
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Does it feel smooth? I'm currently deciding if I should buy this phone or the Mate 20 lite (I'm buying with Tre at the same price), I really like the screen and the camera but the SOC is slower on the A7. As long as it is a smooth UI I'll buy this one, since I'm not that interested in graphics demanding games and CPU intensive apps, I just need it to be usable without lags and random freezes.
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Don't buy the Mate 20, i bought one before getting the A7, the screen in the Mate 20 is really bad, has one of the grey "ish" blacks I've seen on any recent phones, my unit also had a problem with hot pixels that were only noticeable on black colors in very dark environments
Daniel00tm said:
Don't buy the Mate 20, i bought one before getting the A7, the screen in the Mate 20 is really bad, has one of the grey "ish" blacks I've seen on any recent phones, my unit also had a problem with hot pixels that were only noticeable on black colors in very dark environments
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Is it really that bad? I mean, it's an LCD, obviously OLED screens are better, but I was told and I found online that it's a fairly good LCD for a mid-range phone. Also, I don't really mind the screen, I just need a smooth system, and from experience I know Samsung ones can be quite heavy. On the other hand, after two years and a half of EMUI I'd like something that looks newer, and Huawei has recently stopped providing bootloader codes for free. That said, I'll still keep EMUI if it means that it's smoother.
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Is it really that bad? I mean, it's an LCD, obviously OLED screens are better, but I was told and I found online that it's a fairly good LCD for a mid-range phone. Also, I don't really mind the screen, I just need a smooth system, and from experience I know Samsung ones can be quite heavy. On the other hand, after two years and a half of EMUI I'd like something that looks newer, and Huawei has recently stopped providing bootloader codes for free. That said, I'll still keep EMUI if it means that it's smoother.
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The Mate 20 has a faster chipset, if your priority is power then i guess that's your best option, having said that, the A7 is a very smooth device, i have not found any stutter or any apps that struggles to handle, i think the experience is very good
i primarily use my phone for media consumption and was very disappointed with the screen and audio quality of the Mate 20, the volume with headphones is below average in volume
this is the way i see it:
Mate 20
pros
faster chipset
feels very premium in hand
cons
screen not as good as the A7
sound volume and quality are below average
has a notch
A7
pros
fantastic screen without a notch
very good audio quality (has dolby atmos)
better camera than the mate 20
is widevine L3 certified so you can watch netflix at full hd
you get always on display
cons
the device is very light in a cheap kind of way,
front camera doesn't have autofocus
the side bezels are a bit bigger than we are used to in 2019, i'll take that over a notch
doesn't have usb type-c
i hope that helps with your decision
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The Mate 20 has a faster chipset, if your priority is power then i guess that's your best option, having said that, the A7 is a very smooth device, i have not found any stutter or any apps that struggles to handle, i think the experience is very good
i primarily use my phone for media consumption and was very disappointed with the screen and audio quality of the Mate 20, the volume with headphones is below average in volume
this is the way i see it:
Mate 20
pros
faster chipset
feels very premium in hand
cons
screen not as good as the A7
sound volume and quality are below average
has a notch
A7
pros
fantastic screen without a notch
very good audio quality (has dolby atmos)
better camera than the mate 20
is widevine L3 certified so you can watch netflix at full hd
you get always on display
cons
the device is very light in a cheap kind of way,
front camera doesn't have autofocus
the side bezels are a bit bigger than we are used to in 2019, i'll take that over a notch
doesn't have usb type-c
i hope that helps with your decision
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Well, thank you very much, I was lucky to find someone who has used both phones.
Also, sorry for the OT!
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Don't buy the Mate 20, i bought one before getting the A7, the screen in the Mate 20 is really bad, has one of the grey "ish" blacks I've seen on any recent phones, my unit also had a problem with hot pixels that were only noticeable on black colors in very dark environments
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Should i buy the Xiaomi mi A2 over A7 2018? Can i have your opinion as well?
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Should i buy the Xiaomi mi A2 over A7 2018? Can i have your opinion as well?
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well, the xiaomi mi A2 is almost half the price of the A7, only $ 180, i don't think is a fair comparison, the A7 is better in every single way but that's to be expected from a device twice the price
if money is not a problem i would go for the A7, if you are on a budget and want to save some money then i guess the xiaomi is a good option, i've never had a xiaomi device so i can't really tell you what to expect
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Rollout: just a few minutes ago.
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Thanks a lot, a check with Smart Switch revealed that there is an update for the Netherlands as well. I guess for a lot of other European countries tool. Rooted phones will not receive the update OTA, you must manually download it. For that you can use Sammobile.com which is excruciatingly slow however. If it works, use SmartSwitch instead. It is ree, quicker, less of a hassle and you can be sure you get the right version for your phone.
Gent' said:
Should i buy the Xiaomi mi A2 over A7 2018? Can i have your opinion as well?
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Youre getting a way better camera,super amoled, one ui with a7. One ui is the best skin right now.
Mi a2 has sd660 which is slightly better in gaming and youre getting android one. Better updates.
For me, id go with a7 because of one ui and the camera. Go with mi a2 if you feel like gaming but battery is terrible