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Following the launch of three new variants of the Moto G today, Venture Beat is reporting that Lenovo will be renaming the Moto X to the Moto Z. The company will retain the Style and Play monikers introduced last year, while the Droid devices on Verizon are also getting renamed.
The higher-end model that features a quad HD 5.5-inch display and Snapdragon 820 chip with 3 or 4GB of RAM will be known as the Moto Z Style. Meanwhile, the lower-end device with a full HD 5.5-inch display and Snapdragon 625 chip is the Moto Z Play. The Style and Play names were first introduced with last year’s lineup of Moto devices.
On Verizon, Moto devices will no longer be rebranded as the Droid Turbo or Maxx. They will retain the Z Style or Z Play name and be known as the “Droid Edition”. While it is a clunkier naming scheme, it should help Lenovo with brand recognition as they try to expand their presence in Western markets.
Furthermore, Venture Beat is also reporting that the modular backplates for both Moto Z devices will be called MotoMods. Several are currently in the works, including a battery pack, camera grip with optical zoom and flash, stereo speakers, and pico projector. The devices are expected to be announced at Lenovo’s Tech World event on June 9th.
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http://9to5google.com/2016/05/17/lenovo-moto-z-x-rebrand/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-Motorola-Moto-X-series-is-dead-Moto-Z-will-take-its-place_id81186
I'll try to update the thread with more rumors/details when I get time.
Attached pic(s) are all just rumors/renders and not anywhere close to being verified images.
EDIT 6/9/2016:
It's officially been announced now.
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2016/0..._campaign=Feed:+Gottabemobile+(GottaBeMobile)
Moto Z Force Specs
The Moto Z Force is technically the “flagship” high end smartphone from Motorola this year. Featuring a much bigger battery with even faster Turbo Charging (Quick Charge 3.0) a better camera and other changes we’ll detail below. Here’s the rundown.
5.5-inch 2560 x 1440 Quad-HD Display (Shatterproof)
Quad-Core Snapdragon 820 processor with 4GB of RAM
32/64GB storage with micro-SD expansion
Android 6.0.1 Marshmallow
21 Megapixel Rear Camera with Dual LED Flash, auto focus, phase detection focus, OIS
5 Megapixel Front Camera with auto-focus, LED flash, wide angle
Metal Design with MotoMaker customization and MotoMods
USB Type-C Port with Turbo Fast Charging, and USB-C Headphones (no 3.5mm port)
3,500 mAh battery
3.5mm to USB Type-C adapter for headphones
Water repellent nano-coating
The main difference here is the Moto Z Force has a shatterproof display, a bigger 3,500 mAh battery with faster charging, and a better 21 megapixel camera with the addition of phase detection auto-focus and other tricks. It’s also a little taller and a little wider for the bigger battery.
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Wow looks bad compared to the pure. Hopefully the Nexus is good this year.

Nexus can't be good, as none of them have an SDcard slot!

matthelm said:
Nexus can't be good, as none of them have an SDcard slot!
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Not everyone cares about or needs the sdcard capability. I personally like having one for ease of transferring between devices, but I could get by without if I have 64 GB or better storage. I regularly back up my pictures anyway and I can download movies and music again.

Honestly, I really hope the new High end motos won't actually look like that. I hate trying to hold onto all these phones that are just flat slabs of thin metal. They're hard to hold onto, and that chin looks stupid. lol

I agree. One of the selling points for me on the MXPE was the fact that the curved back with the stock silicone backing provides excellent grip and usability for a phone on this size category. Flat metal and smooth plastic and/or metal backs trend to slide too easily in my hand.
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Some sites are claiming this is the next generation Droid RAZR.

aybarrap1 said:
Not everyone cares about or needs the sdcard capability. I personally like having one for ease of transferring between devices, but I could get by without if I have 64 GB or better storage. I regularly back up my pictures anyway and I can download movies and music again.
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True, but as we found out last year with the S6, MOST people do. The large majority want sd cards, and they were the loudest, most vocal, and annoying about it I've ever seen/heard. Samsung will never make that mistake again!

So true. For the most part, Samsung users had always had the SD card slot. The absence was a shock. However in the case of NEXUS devices, the absence of the slot is the norm. As you stated, many complained (including my spouse but won her over with automated cloud backup via wifi). This just shows that nexus devices are not for everyone.
On a side note: My reasons for the MXPE over nexus was not SD card related. I liked the overall specs and size of the MXPE and it was a better bargain for the price. While receiving the latest updates quickly would be nice, it is not a crucial sales point, more so since I'm not a developer.
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Would it be worth it to buy the Moto x style or wait for the price to drop even further?
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Would it be worth it to buy the Moto x style or wait for the price to drop even further?
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For the price to specs value, it is an excellent buy now. It is hard to say if the price will drop much more if any. Usually price drops are to get rid of stock and if the stock is emptied at current prices, you will never get the chance for lower prices.
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OP updated with official announcement.

So, a [hopefully] unlocked bootloader won't be available till after the summer.
No worries. My MotoX is rocking steady.
Moto Z & Moto Z Force Release Date
So when can you get one?
Well, the Moto Z DROID and Moto Z DROID Force will be available exclusively in the United States “this summer” from Verizon Wireless.
Then, the Moto Z will be available unlocked (for most carriers) later this fall on Motorola.com and likely many other retail partners.
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AWW crap.
Sadly, the better Moto Z Force will only be available in the US from Verizon Wireless.
Everyone else will need to settle for the razor thin Moto Z with the smaller 2,600 mAh battery.
Motorola further explained that these phones will be available globally starting in September.
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Anyone here thinking about going back to a carrier locked phone?

Verizon isn't allowed to lock their 4G LTE phones. However the Droid branded phones may lack the proper radio frequencies to work well on AT&T and T-Mobile LTE.
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sherri said:
Anyone here thinking about going back to a carrier locked phone?
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Not a chance right now. There are enough options out in the wild with more than acceptable specs still. Of course, it will be another year or so before I get around to upgrading again so who knows.
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Kind of disappointed... like the curved back design better... and the first round of motomods is not so exciting to see. I wonder if they will keep motoaction?
And anyone saw the livestream yesterday? At one point it's weird Ashton Kutcher walked off stage, like he's not sure if he's still needed on stage or not... In general, I think the CEO doesn't need to be on stage that much if he doesn't have the charisma...

The production values of the presentation last year were far superior fwiw.
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Fewer LTE bands and no 3.5 mm jack so just not for me. I could probably live with the USB-C audio (I'll have to eventually anyway) but reduced band coverage is a deal-killer.
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Looks like we were wrong about the X line

Huawei Honor Magic - Links to early hands on and unboxing

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Honor Magic tucks Huawei's latest smarts into a slab of glass
https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/16/huawei-honor-magic/
Huawei Honor Magic Official: Curved On All Eight Sides, Intelligent Magic Live Assistant (Everything you need to know)
http://www.gizmochina.com/2016/12/1...nt-magic-live-assistant-everything-need-know/
Honor Magic Review (Use Google Chrome translate)
http://mobile.pconline.com.cn/867/8679962.html
Videos:
Launch event handson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhkjMzvunJg
Unboxing:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg2ODk4MzMyMA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3Nzc4ODAxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3OTM4NDg2MA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3ODczNTcxNg==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Disassembling and reinstalling:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIxOTE0NA==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTg3MTIyMzY5Ng==.html?from=s1.8-1-1.2
Added 01/01/2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3T7RRoCkC4
https://kknews.cc/digital/6k9g4l3.html
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11666631-1-1.html
Xiaomi Mix vs Honor Magic
http://www.yzmg.com/shouji/171018.html
http://fonyzciny.startitup.sk/xiaomi-mi-mix-vs-honor-magic/
Added 02/01/2017:
Xiaomi Note 2 vs Honor Magic
http://www.1885888.com/licai/1597127x.shtml
Good quality images of the Honor Magic:
http://weibo.com/ttarticle/p/show?id=2309404057438549622002
http://www.v4.cc/News-3233254.html
http://photo.weibo.com/1094293345/talbum/detail/photo_id/4058066245383655?prel=p6_3#4058066245383660
https://www.behance.net/gallery/46762767/-Magic
Added 03/01/2017:
Camera performance
http://www.honor.cn/brand/brand-news-detail/131113/
Added 07/01/2017:
Detailed review in Italian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI6y4OjTdM0
Phonearena handson at CES 2017:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...e-most-magical-smartphone-of-CES-2017_id89734
High quality unboxing photos:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11762304-1-1.html
Added 08/01/2017:
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11782464-1-1.html
http://club.huawei.com/thread-11741705-1-1.html
Added 16/01/2017:
http://www.cfan.com.cn/2017/0113/128032.shtml
Mi Mix vs Honor Magic (video)
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQ3MjYxMzc4OA==.html?spm=a2h0k.8191407.0.0.0Wolln&from=s1.8-1-1.2
Added 17/01/2017:
http://www.yzmg.com/pingce/172230.html
Added 18/01/2017:
Great dismantling images:
http://mobile.zol.com.cn/slide/624/6244727_1.html#p=1
Added: 22/01/2017
Honor magic camera shots
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4948658196?pn=1
Review from China:
http://www.dgtle.com/article-17108-1.html
Some gorgeous images from the same site:
http://www.dgtle.com/article-16911-1.html
10/02/2017
Review after 1 month use
http://www.shafa.com/articles/zFljfGMvXAVnOjBT.html
Mi Mix vs Honor magic
http://tech.qianlong.com/2017/0210/1387822.shtml

In reply to your previous post, I live in Hong Kong, I have pre ordered it on JD.com, I can visit china anytime. i will see if huawei official store have them, I don't like purchase online, so I prefer a instore purchase, worse case, is I don't buy one, i't not important.
Do you know if the magic is a limited edition, I mean limited supply, or will they stop production after awhile.

kms108 said:
Do you know if the magic is a limited edition, I mean limited supply, or will they stop production after awhile.
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No i haven't seen any talk of it being a limited edition or any tone that implies that.
It should sell no different to the Honor 6 plus in which the dual camera was first tested before it was implemented on other Huawei phones.

warea said:
No i haven't seen any talk of it being a limited edition or any tone that implies that.
It should sell no different to the Honor 6 plus in which the dual camera was first tested before it was implemented on other Huawei phones.
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So even if I wait for a few more weeks or months, they should be constant supply, ive already have a LG V20 and a Sony Xperia X performance so i'm not in a rush.
I was getting ready to buy the Beyerdynamic Xelento IEM, then I heard about the Magic, if there is no rush I will probably get the IEM first, so I can skip all the inflations, but during my visit to china on ther 9th January ( I visit china 1-2 a month), and if I do see it, I can pick one up, but i'm not going to buy it if the price is inflated, thats why I ask if they have a limited supply or a dead line before they stop selling it. But due to the high cost in making this curve screen, not sure if Huawei will keep selling the magic.

kms108 said:
So even if I wait for a few more weeks or months, they should be constant supply, ive already have a LG V20 and a Sony Xperia X performance so i'm not in a rush.
I was getting ready to buy the Beyerdynamic Xelento IEM, then I heard about the Magic, if there is no rush I will probably get the IEM first, so I can skip all the inflations, but during my visit to china on ther 9th January ( I visit china 1-2 a month), and if I do see it, I can pick one up, but i'm not going to buy it if the price is inflated, thats why I ask if they have a limited supply or a dead line before they stop selling it. But due to the high cost in making this curve screen, not sure if Huawei will keep selling the magic.
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If price is inflated more than 7-8% id say its not worth it in your case since there is no other shipping costs involved. If your not really crazy about getting the phone, then 1-2 months you can get the phone with original price id say. But since im crazy about getting it, i wont mind if it inflated less than 7-8%.
The curved screen is there on the Mate 9 pro as well. I even see that the screen alone as a spare part for Honor magic is available for sale online. So i don't think that will be an issue. From what it seems, the curved screen is going to feature on P10 and other Huawei top end phones next year like the dual camera this year.

warea said:
If price is inflated more than 7-8% id say its not worth it in your case.
The curved screen is there on the Mate 9 pro as well. I even see that the screen alone as a spare part for Honor magic is available for sale online. So i don't think that will be an issue. From what it seems, the curved screen is going to feature on P10 and other Huawei top end phones next year like the dual camera this year.
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In that case, holding back is probably a good idea, but will see if it's available on the 9th.

It looks gorgeous, but I wish there wasn't a button on the front

CronaMell said:
It looks gorgeous, but I wish there wasn't a button on the front
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I agree probably looks better, of have a touch sensitive one without any markings.

kms108 said:
I agree probably looks better, of have a touch sensitive one without any markings.
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It looks samsung-ish with that placement, especially with the curved display

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It looks samsung-ish with that placement, especially with the curved display
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The Mate 9 pro looks more Samsung from the front, but the Honor magic has lots of differences i doubt anyone would confuse it as S7 edge.
I wonder which phone Honor will be unveiling tomorrow CES 2017. The teasers are about the camera but Honor magic hasn't brought anything new to the camera.

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The Mate 9 pro looks more Samsung from the front, but the Honor magic has lots of differences i doubt anyone would confuse it as S7 edge.
I wonder which phone Honor will be unveiling tomorrow CES 2017. The teasers are about the camera but Honor magic hasn't brought anything new to the camera.
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It's 90% honor 6x, but I hope for something better

CronaMell said:
It's 90% honor 6x, but I hope for something better
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But nothing news worthy about 6x either that they would unveil it on a CES. I'm guessing a new phone with some new dual camera tech or honor phone that uses the Mate 9 20mp dual camera, along with 6x budget offering.

warea said:
But nothing news worthy about 6x either that they would unveil it on a CES. I'm guessing a new phone with some new dual camera tech or honor phone that uses the Mate 9 20mp dual camera, along with 6x budget offering.
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I wish this will happen

Review in Italian http://andreagaleazzi.com/recensione/honor-magic-recensione/

Video review in German
http://winfuture.de/videos/Hardware...stung-mit-kleinen-magischen-Extras-17433.html

cool!

verify SD card support in mate 9 pro?

Can anyone who has the pro please confirm if there is SD card support ? It should be within one of the receptacle trays that are used for the dual Sims.
It seems their is conflicting information on the official sites and some reviews of Porsche design variant that share the same chassis indicate there is no SD card slot or support.

There is no SD for the pro variant. A friend of mine got it thinking GSM arena listed it had. Once it arrived it didn't so he is now selling the pro to get the normal mate.

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This is what the slot looks like if anyone is wondering, i dont think you can put an sd card in there, as someone mentioned.
EDIT: Picture is from PD version, just checked the Pro and it's the same

Thanks guys, the confirmation is appreciated.
Knew the PD varient didn't have one but had hoped they had just hobbled it with single sim restrictions and that the international pro version would SD storage enabled.
Why can't we ever find that truly ideal phone......

I wonder why the 'Pro' would have a smaller screen, and no SD capability. I was excited to see it coming only to be disappointed.
On top of that, no Verizon capability. I'm thinking of moving over to them. I had thought the international would support it, but no luck.
Sorry, I guess I just felt the need to whine.

ewingr said:
I wonder why the 'Pro' would have a smaller screen, and no SD capability. I was excited to see it coming only to be disappointed.
On top of that, no Verizon capability. I'm thinking of moving over to them. I had thought the international would support it, but no luck.
Sorry, I guess I just felt the need to whine.
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I know..
I checked Sony xz today and it has a similar slot but an SD card fits instead of the second SIM, that's a smarter design for sure
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ewingr said:
I wonder why the 'Pro' would have a smaller screen, and no SD capability. I was excited to see it coming only to be disappointed.
On top of that, no Verizon capability. I'm thinking of moving over to them. I had thought the international would support it, but no luck.
Sorry, I guess I just felt the need to whine.
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Yup, I'm returning my Pro. It's an odd design choice. It doesn't seem that there are any advantages to the Pro in the storage department. The SIM cards function the same from what I can tell and the Pro removes the micro SD card slot for no apparent reason.
I think Huawei wanted the OLED (or perhaps even more specifically the curved screen) but couldn't get a decent 6" display and had to settle for the smaller display.
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I checked Sony xz today and it has a similar slot but an SD card fits instead of the second SIM, that's a smarter design for sure
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Is the XZ dual SIM like Huawei's? The XZ has cut so many corners with odd decisions though. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Less RAM, less storage space and much slower storage too. Still suffers from poor camera performance, displays need to be improved, fingerprint scanner disabled in the US due to patent issues and poor placement too. Lots of proprietary tech that gets disabled permanently if bootloader is unlocked. Their release cadence of 6 months is too fast as well. They should move to a yearly release and stop making so many blunders and make a great device for once which would mean we get one great device per year instead of two bad ones. But oh well. Their loss, not mine. I'll end my rant here

Trixanity said:
Yup, I'm returning my Pro. It's an odd design choice. It doesn't seem that there are any advantages to the Pro in the storage department. The SIM cards function the same from what I can tell and the Pro removes the micro SD card slot for no apparent reason.
I think Huawei wanted the OLED (or perhaps even more specifically the curved screen) but couldn't get a decent 6" display and had to settle for the smaller display.
Is the XZ dual SIM like Huawei's? The XZ has cut so many corners with odd decisions though. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
Less RAM, less storage space and much slower storage too. Still suffers from poor camera performance, displays need to be improved, fingerprint scanner disabled in the US due to patent issues and poor placement too. Lots of proprietary tech that gets disabled permanently if bootloader is unlocked. Their release cadence of 6 months is too fast as well. They should move to a yearly release and stop making so many blunders and make a great device for once which would mean we get one great device per year instead of two bad ones. But oh well. Their loss, not mine. I'll end my rant here
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It has almost the same design of sim tray except for the fact that the second sim is perpendicular and you can place a micro sd instead.
I didn't like the phone overall either, however it's not a bad device at all. For my the huawei pro/pd is much better than any android right now.
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aslan93 said:
It has almost the same design of sim tray except for the fact that the second sim is perpendicular and you can place a micro sd instead.
I didn't like the phone overall either, however it's not a bad device at all. For my the huawei pro/pd is much better than any android right now.
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The regular Mate 9 has dual SIM and micro SD through their hybrid tray design so that's why it's odd that the Pro does not. Dunno if it's space constraints. Maybe the hybrid tray requires additional components around the tray that can't fit with the 4000 mAh battery and smaller body.

additional storage in Huawei Mate 9 Pro
Really? Just get the 6GB & 128 GB model. You need more space? Buy a USB Type C microSD adapter. I am using a microSD with an additional 128gb to store songs and others.

Is Vivo NEX a success in sales?

Vivo is top brand in china right now. I wonder how much of this is a result of Vivo NEX ?
I think if they would lower price a little a lot more people would buy it.. like 100 dollars cheaper or something would make big difference in sales
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/11/...in-china-in-q3-2018-followed-closely-by-oppo/
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Well actually BBK group is the largest Chinese manufacturer and includes Vivo,Oppo and OnePlus.
And all of three produce high cost smartphone even in mainland China.
Vivo and Oppo selling majority in Asia and OnePlus in Europe and India.
And even higher cost devices produced their between the top brand in China(Vivo-Oppo) and OnePlus in India and Europe.
NAM = North America, LATAM = Latin America, MEA = Middle East, CEE = Central & Eastern Europe, WE = Western Europe, APAC = Asia-Pacific
https://www.counterpointresearch.co...dium=email&utm_campaign=newsletterseptember20
There’s very useful observation can anyone read at above link.
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according to this news article the vivo nex was sold in 2 million in 6 months
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/12/04/vivo-nex-crosses-2-million-sales-in-just-6-months/

still the dual screen edition is a big mistake

hamdir said:
still the dual screen edition is a big mistake
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I dont think nex 2 will have this solution, I think they just want to try it out and see how people perceive it.
Right now there is too many compromises with a dual screen. When it does not affect thickness, battery capacity and price its a better idea.
overall I think Lenevo Z5 did do a better job it looks more stylish, nex version looks like a prototype in comparison. And the circular Selfie light does not look good at all even if it is functional

One thing is sure dual screen version won’t have the same success as original Vivo Nex.
Simple Vivo experiment with futuristic design and unique style but as much gorgeous is dual screen display has many disadvantages over original Vivo Nex.
The real successor of Vivo Nex will be unveiled sometime in May or June and will have newer Qualcomm 855 SOC and hope 1-2 improvements for example waterproof ip67/68 certification or stereo sound and NFC.
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paatha13 said:
One thing is sure dual screen version won’t have the same success as original Vivo Nex.
Simple Vivo experiment with futuristic design and unique style but as much gorgeous is dual screen display has many disadvantages over original Vivo Nex.
The real successor of Vivo Nex will be unveiled sometime in May or June and will have newer Qualcomm 855 SOC and hope 1-2 improvements for example waterproof ip67/68 certification or stereo sound and NFC.
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I hope Vivo Nex will follow same pop up design , I hope it does not jump into the slide trend.
Pop up solution will hopefully be easier to convince people that it is reliable after from what I have seen no reported problem on failing motors on the selfie camera. Its good that Vivo offer different type of solutions rather then just putting all money into one solution, I like when they give us choice, which has been less and less the last years since the statistics of high volume sells have become more important for manufactures they want to have less models so they can brag about they sell more then iphone etc rather then offering more models how it was in the past. Huawei did do a good job offer a real phablet size of mate 20 x .
People in general think the pop up camera is a cool solution but the general consensus from the people is that they think the motors will break over time. Of course only time can judge that, I think people are way too skeptical about it, most people don't have their phone more then 2 years, the battery will be worthless in 2 years so I would worry more about the battery personally.
Even if we ditch the motorized solution, I dont think we should adop the slider solution, it compromises too much of the robustness of the general body, also makes it more vulnerable for dust and dirt. A spring based solution for the pop up camera is also and idea. What most people are worried about is that if the motor dies the camera gets unusable, to send into service is not a option since vivo dont have service centers outside china more or less, but in case the motor go bad there should be a spring inside so you can atleast pop up the camera with the spring when you push at the pop up area of the phone. Otherwise all we can do is see and wait how well the motors pass. Personally I have not been using the selfie camera alot of times ,I doubt I have even open it 1000 times in the last few months for instance. If you use snapchat alot and have not blocked selfie camera access I guess this number will go up fast.

Question [TB132FU] Future Custom Rom support for new variant of Lenovo Xiaoxin Pad Pro 2022

Hello together,
recently Lenovo has launched a new 2022 variant of the Lenovo Xiaoxin Pad Pro Tablet [TB132FU]. (also known as Lenovo Tab P11 Pro Gen 2)
This variant ditches the Qualcomm Snapdragon 870 in favor of a Mediathek Dimensity 1300T. Performance wise these two SOCs should be basically on par.
It can be purchaded directly by Lenovo: https://www.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablet...o-tab-series/Tab-P11-Pro-2nd-Gen/p/ZAB50194GB
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The kernel source of the global variant was already released.
(--> see: https://support.lenovo.com/de/en/solutions/ht511330-lenovo-open-source-portal)
So i do have the following questions right now:
Does anybody own this device at this time? Is it a good purchase compared to the other variants.
How likely are Custom ROMs for this device, as a global version with kernel source is available?
Does the mediatek chip have any drawbacks in ROM development?
Best regards,
greenflash_24

Hi,
Received mine Friday...it's a 8/256Go.
Nearly everything is very good :
- bright 2.5k AMOLED screen
- sound
- performances (far better than Pro Gen 1)
- internal storage (average sequential read : 1.3Go/s)
- microSD card reader (tested on a 256Go)
- light weight
What is less good :
- face unlock doesn't work in darkness
- fingerprints marks on back
- lack of audio jack
Nevertheless, I doubt you will get many custom ROM as it is :
- probably not a best seller even if I think it's one of the best tablet...0 tests yet in media
- it's Mediatek's based...devs used to dislike that (there are some exceptions : for exemple Redmi Note 8 Pro)

Plumplum88 said:
Hi,
Received mine Friday...it's a 8/256Go.
Nearly everything is very good :
- bright 2.5k AMOLED screen
- sound
- performances (far better than Pro Gen 1)
- internal storage (average sequential read : 1.3Go/s)
- microSD card reader (tested on a 256Go)
- light weight
What is less good :
- face unlock doesn't work in darkness
- fingerprints marks on back
- lack of audio jack
Nevertheless, I doubt you will get many custom ROM as it is :
- probably not a best seller even if I think it's one of the best tablet...0 tests yet in media
- it's Mediatek's based...devs used to dislike that (there are some exceptions : for exemple Redmi Note 8 Pro)
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is it pentile display ? does the display look sharp ?

Can't be sure about pentile...despite I try a 50MP shot on the screen with my smartphone...
In my opinion, it's sharp...I used previously a 10" 2560x1600 IPS screen (no-pentile...Teclast T10), I can't see any difference about sharpness.
Overall, P11 Pro Gen 2's screen feels far better than T10's (colors, brightness...)

I can't wait for my set. I ordered the 8/128 GB variant.
From the internet research, the 8gb variant should come with extra features like 10bit color and SD870 SOC instead.
I could not confirm that until received. Anyone could confirm this?

Plumplum88 said:
Hi,
Received mine Friday...it's a 8/256Go.
Nearly everything is very good :
- bright 2.5k AMOLED screen
- sound
- performances (far better than Pro Gen 1)
- internal storage (average sequential read : 1.3Go/s)
- microSD card reader (tested on a 256Go)
- light weight
What is less good :
- face unlock doesn't work in darkness
- fingerprints marks on back
- lack of audio jack
Nevertheless, I doubt you will get many custom ROM as it is :
- probably not a best seller even if I think it's one of the best tablet...0 tests yet in media
- it's Mediatek's based...devs used to dislike that (there are some exceptions : for exemple Redmi Note 8 Pro)
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Just wondering if you could enable the Google Playstore there? How to go about enabling it?

ZhenMing said:
Just wondering if you could enable the Google Playstore there? How to go about enabling it?
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It's European model, Play store was already installed. 10bits colors isn't specific to SD870 version, mine is HDR10+

Plumplum88 said:
It's European model, Play store was already installed. 10bits colors isn't specific to SD870 version, mine is HDR10+
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I see. Meaning what you have is with global ROM.
My set is china ROM and on its shipping route. Possible later this week will received it. Heard we could just enabled it, but I could not sure the procedure.

ZhenMing said:
I can't wait for my set. I ordered the 8/128 GB variant.
From the internet research, the 8gb variant should come with extra features like 10bit color and SD870 SOC instead.
I could not confirm that until received. Anyone could confirm this?
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I have now also ordered the European version of this variant here in Germany, it has arrived today. There was only one option available, which is the 256/8GB version with the Mediatek chipset and global ROM (including Play Store) already installed.
As I understand it, the global version of this tablet always comes with the Mediatek chipset, the QC SD870 is for other markets. This would also mean that the global ROM will only function on the Mediatek chipset and not on the Qualcomm.
I can also confirm, that there is support for HDR10 and even Dolby Vision.

MTK 1300T had global rom , but no solution for flash

Do anyone have the keyboard too? If the keyboard detached from the tablet, will it still work,
What I wish to achieve is to have the tablet lifted and hold on a holder which is higher perhaps on the eye level, then having the keyboard on the desk for typing.
If it won't work, then need to order a BT keyboard for this purpose.
Thank you.

Keyboard isn't available yet in my country...only pencil is.
But...as tablet has physical connectors, I think keyboard doesn't work if not connected.
I think I will go for a Bluetooth keyboard too...and a usb-c to HDMI wire.

I tested the Type C to HDMI and it work perfectly.
I still not figured out on how to use the Lenovo One to mirror my Xiaomi tot he tablet.

Anyone notice the screen is kind of uneven when you are in the minimum brightness? It had red hue on the left and right.
I notice that on movie watching at night on my bed and check the rest, seems it is affecting everywhere.
If you turn on the DC backlight, the red hue effect is more obvious.

Does anybody own this device at this time? Is it a good purchase compared to the other variants
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I just got mine a couple of days ago and I'm very happy with it so far.
I'm just now trying to understand if there's an easy way to root it.

I 've tested a mini bluetooth keyboard, able to switch to AZERTY on P11 Pro (works on "standard" Android, but it's not possible on some devices like AndroidTV or Fire Stick)
As I prefer something without physical connectors,
I ordered a bigger bluetooth keyboard, and a USB-C to HDMI...
Find one with trackpad. Size is very close to P11 Pro
https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B015CM1Y6Y/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Was cheaper Yesterday...22.57€
I think I will build a case.

For your English ROM, what is the Android version?
Mine China ROM, and it is Android 12. Too bad it is not Android 12L.

Yes it's still Android 12...tweaked with a productivity mode...
Heard 12L, then 13 and 14 will be available

Yes, Android 12 - Build number TB132FU_S000073_220816_ROW.

Due to China ROM, I do not have Productivity Mode but Study Mode. I had to learn to adopt to it.
But I'm actually feel that Productivity Mode is more useful.
My tab model is TB138FC and yours is TB138FU. As I researched, TB138FU is using MediaTek Kompanio 1300T where the TB138FC is using SD870.