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Full Review: THL T11, really fast with 2GB RAM to liberate MTK6892 8-Core CPU

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The good: 2GB RAM perfectly unleashes the potential of MT6592, so in terms of gaming, THL T11 is the one of the fastest 8-core smartphone I’ve ever experienced (the other is Huawei Honor 3X). Good craftsmanship as on previous THL handsets. The protective case is smart with automatic wake-up and can be used as a stand.
The bad: The protective case frequently flip open itself. The camera is disappointing.
Bottom line: Though it is 20 US dollars above the que-limit price for a Chinese phone, THL T11 is still worth the price, because it is very close to a high-end stuff in many aspects.
Price has long been my first concern if it comes to talking about a Chinese cell phone, so I didn’t mean to do much about the USD220 THL T11 when the cheapest phone with the Octa-core MTK6592 CPU has been 70 US dollars cheaper, namely, Mijue M10.
Fortunately the 2GB RAM drew my attention and made me wonder if it would help make a difference. Well, it did, and I saw something that stunned me quite a lot, like what you would see in the video below.
Yep, the cars of NFS Most Wanted flied! That gave me confidence to try Real Racing 3, which, seems not bad on the T11, too. And such a phone – I can call it a beast – of course deserves a full review. So here it is.
1. Design:
THL T11 is generally a copy of Xiaomi M3, or you may say both the 2 Chinese-brand phones stole the design language of Nokia Lumia 920, including a long rectangle face with sharp corners, curved-out left and right edges, as well as flat top and bottom.
As the T11 has a user-replaceable battery, there are inevitably seams on its edges for opening of the back cover. That aside, the handset inherits the good craftsmanship from its THL predecessors.
The rear side of THL T11 delivers a soft feel like that from a velvet blanket -- quite different from stock hard plastics covers; being a little bit narrower but thicker, the smartphone looks more compact than Xiaomi Mi3; and it has a neat appearance with no redundant buttons or holes besides a volume rocker, a power starter, a micro USB port, and a 3.5mm jack.
A bonus point could be the protective case which is composed of an extra back cover and a foldable piece of leather. You can flip the front cover open and close to wake up the display and let it sleep. And like the Smart Case of iPad, the T11 case can be used as a stand for video watching, too.
Perhaps the condition is just for the very T11 I hold in hand -- the front cover open itself due to a tensile force, so I have to let the face of the handset down when I put it on a table.
2. Display:
This week I tried three Chinese mobile phones with 5-inch 720p screens, namely, Cubot X6, Mijue M10, THL T11. Of them, Cubot X6 and THL T11 have the worst and best displays, respectively.
On the T11, you can see all the details of an image that should be shown with the resolution of 1280 by 720 pixels, and the mild and lively colors are quite eye pleasing.
3. Camera:
If THL T11 had a good camera, I would be willing to spend 30 US dollars more --- USD250 for a cellphone with no major drawback is quite a deal. Unfortunately, THL would rather save the money for a lower price.
The back camera is just a little bit better than a total disaster with low real resolution and pale colors, while the front camera is somewhat heartening. By the way, remember to peel off the piece of blue protective film on the lens of the rear camera, or you’ll get a more blurry picture.
Normal light:
Low light:
With flash:
Under fluorescent lamp:
Selfie:
4. OS:
The T11 runs on the pure Android 4.2.2 with Google Play store pre-installed. People on XDA-developers may not be android purists, but I think this hardware would set your mind at ease for development.
5. Performance
With the gaming experience aforementioned, I knew the T11 would have high scores on benchmark apps. And it did. Antutu gives the smartphone a high score of 27196 and GFX Bench 3.0 says it is able to deal with 41 pictures of 720p resolution in a second.
Not only gaming, every operation on the THL stuff is fast, such as switch across apps trays, open and close of apps, slide of pictures. However, I still feel hiccups during the switch between widget trays – the same problem with all Android 4.2.2 Chinese phones I’ve tested.
It seems that the MTK6592 Octa-core CPU and Mali450 MP4 quad-core GPU make a real fine chipset allocation, which, however, needs a big random access memory (RAM) to liberate itself from fetters. According to my memory, THL T11 should be as fast as Huawei Honor 3X, and the latter, worth more than USD300, happens to contain a 2GB RAM, too.
6. Battery:
Just like what I did on Cubot X6 and Mijue M10, I let a 720p music video loop on the T11 till the battery dies, and at the same time, the Battery Monitor Widget watched out the power consumption. Finally, the 2750mAh lasted the smartphone for about 6 hours of playback.
7. Others:
Though I don’t feel NFC is very useful, at least for now, this module on the T11 is quite responsive -- it connects very quickly to Nexus 4 and transfers files quite smoothly -- have a look at the video above.
8. Conclusion:
Of all cheap Chinese phones, THL T11 may be the first one that I think is a worthy opponent against some internationally known brands. Except camera, the T11 is fine by all means, and in terms of speed, it should’ve been one of the fastest of all 8-core phones by far.

Awesome review. Thanks for info. I am really interested now.

zerogun said:
Awesome review. Thanks for info. I am really interested now.
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It's just one week experience, so it may or may not be as good after long-time use. You need to see some consumer reviews for more fair judgement.

Which website did you order your phone from? How long did it take to reach you?
Thanks

Sunsamg said:
Which website did you order your phone from? How long did it take to reach you?
Thanks
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Hey, i didn't order it. I'm in China and get the phone from a friend who sell phones.

mohammad ahamad
nice review man.
How about facebook? Does it crash? Some people said that fb version 7 runs ok.
Thank you.

Great review indeed. Especially the battery performance verification method. My T11 is on the way (should arrive within the next week).
People claim that the notification led only works when charging.. Is it true? Is there any way to fix it without installing another ROM?

TUPAC_RIP said:
mohammad ahamad
nice review man.
How about facebook? Does it crash? Some people said that fb version 7 runs ok.
Thank you.
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I'm in China, where facebook is blocked by the government. It seems i need to use VPN next time.

mead6302 said:
Great review indeed. Especially the battery performance verification method. My T11 is on the way (should arrive within the next week).
People claim that the notification led only works when charging.. Is it true? Is there any way to fix it without installing another ROM?
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Sorry i didn't notice such details, but i'll check when the handset is available again. About the battery performance verification, it was learned from a guy on XDA.

mead6302 said:
Great review indeed. Especially the battery performance verification method. My T11 is on the way (should arrive within the next week).
People claim that the notification led only works when charging.. Is it true? Is there any way to fix it without installing another ROM?
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Led doesn't work but there is a fix. I don't remember where to search.
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Wooot.
Is 220 bucks a great deal for this device? Free shipping btw..

abihakim said:
Wooot.
Is 220 bucks a great deal for this device? Free shipping btw..
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I think so. T11 is the best mediocre Chinese phone by far, in terms of craftsmanship, smoothness, display and comprehensive strength.

Elephone M1 Review

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Design
Let’s start off with the design and how the phone looks. The Elephone M1 is a very stylish smartphone I have to say, it has an elegant look and looks quite premium. Its body includes up of a metal construct which not only supplies durability to the smartphone, nevertheless it appears first-rate aesthetically too. When I gripped the smartphone for the very first time, I knew that I have been dealing with a premium best handset in view that of the fabric that was used to make it used to be made of very excessive first-class., also the fingerprint scanner in the back of the device gives a more eye-catching look to the M. Elephone M1 heirs the design of the Huawei P8 and the iPhone 6, both smartphones are beautiful so is the M1.
Button Placement
In 2015 people tend to buy smartphones with big displays and that’s the issue, some hands are small and some big. The M1 with the 5.5inch display is quite big and in many phones with that big display placing the buttons in the right position is a nightmare. Thankfully the M1 buttons are well aligned and correctly placed, coming from a Note 4 with a 5.7inch display I enjoyed more having the power and volume buttons in the right hand side. Not incorporating a bodily residence button proper within the core is a process that a number of Chinese smartphone OEMs follow and it's not necessarily a good approach. This is because it's not going to provide that clicking sensation when a user really presses a physical home button, and majority of the instances, they will need to tap on the capacitive button.
Display and resolution
I would love to see a Full HD Display on this smartphone but sadly, Elephone integrated it to the Elephone M2 which is an upgraded version of the M1, but don’t panic having an HD display will you more battery life. Despite the HD display on the M1, performs very good. Having the brightness to maximum level I had no problem using the phone under the Sun, also the display is gorgeous, I have never seen such a beautiful HD display on a smartphone at first I couldn’t believe that it was only HD. The M1 has some awesome viewing angles thanks to the IPS panel, even though you will easily be able to notice the difference in display quality thanks to its 5.5 inch screen. The pixel per inch density of Elephone M1 is relatively low, which will degrade the overall quality and experience of the user, but eventually you will get used to it. MediaTek has developed features that are simple to use and cater to the latest trends. MiraVisionTM provides the high-definition, fluid video playback you would expect from an HD television screen while using a mobile device.
Performance
As Isaid earlier the performance of the phone so far is absolutely amazing. With a quad core CPU clocked at 1.3GHz having multiple applications open and gaming was piece of cake for the M1. I tried to squeeze and push the device to its limits I haven’t seen it lag yet, I have to say that Elephone did a great Job with this device. Comparing it to my Note 4 clocked at 2.7Ghz some apps run faster and much smoother on M1, maybe the reason for that is that the MediaTek CPU has a 64-bit architecture, but hey it’s still a 1.3Ghz CPU it won’t give you too much power.
Camera
The camera is not that great but not so bad either. I would rank it as a medium-range smartphone camera. OmniVision 13MP camera (physical 8.0MP, upgraded to 13MP with software) says Elephone. It also supports 1080p video recording. A variety of shooting modes like sunset, landscape and portrait are supported. And various filters in black and white, cameo, neon, etc, fun techniques like Smile Snapshot, Picture in Picture Mode and more, so obviously picture taking is more interesting.
Battery Life
You hardly find smartphones with awesome battery life, and this phone isn’t one. It has a very good battery life but not awesome. The idle times were amazing, better than my Note 4’s. The Elephone M1 lasted for 3 and a half days without charging while in the end I had 2hours and 30minutes of SOT. The M1 has two power saving modes , one is for intelligent power saving standby which means when the phone is idle it consumes way less energy and there is also the Battery Saver Mode which reduces the device’s performance and limits vibration and background processes.
Conclusion
Overall the Elephone M1 is an almost perfect smartphone, despite the beautiful elegant look with its all metal body design it also has an awesome display, a very good speaker, quite good back camera, great battery life and the performance is great. Don’t forget the awesome fingerprint scanner which is located in the back of the device. The only drawbacks I found on the M1 were the front camera and the lack of customizations on the System. Elephones UI (Interface) does a really good job of keeping up the performance. I would also like to point out that the M1 has a two slots one for SIM and one for microSD card up to 128GB, but you can also have two SIM cards instead. If you care about aesthetics then this smartphone is for you because it can combine enough performance for many different tasks and also having a smartphone that others will be jealous about. The best price I could find was at Geekbuying which they have it for $130. I think it’s a great deal since the phone it solid as rock and the performance brilliant in light to medium tasks.
You can read the full review here : http://goo.gl/JTYcmW

Thanks for all your work !

Krystyna said:
Thanks for all your work !
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i try to do my best..the review on my website is more specific
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wow, nice review, do you have video review?

FumiJ said:
wow, nice review, do you have video review?
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Yes it will be up soon

Love this mobile.

Nice review,
could you give more information about device's sensors(compass ,gps,etc...)

9 MAGICAL features that makes Honor Magic totally drool-worthy!

Honor Magic! The name says it all! Please read on to know how the phone lives up to its name.
Here are some cool features that make the device work like true magic!
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1. WiseScreen Sensor
The intelligent sensor system allows you to activate your phone smartly. The moment you pick up the phone, the sensor on the phone’s frame and the front infrared camera recognize your hand and your eyes, and put the phone into action by activating the screen. When you put down your phone, or place it in your pocket, the screen goes off in one second.
2. Intelligent Face Code Recognition
New message notification will only show up for pre-registered faces to ensure users’ privacy.
3. Honor Magic Live
Honor Magic Live smart engine does not only understand the users’ needs, but helps to organize their life. By detecting external factors such as touch, direction, brightness, speed, distance and location, Honor Magic does not only function passively on your demand, but also provides active services beyond your imagination.
4. My Pocket
Swipe up from the bottom of the screen to activate the ‘save’ and ‘share’ button so you can collect and share your favorite articles, music and videos.
5. 3D Glass Curved Design
Honor Magic boasts of an ergonomic design with its double 3D glass covers and Class-A curvy style which reflects bright, shining lights.
6. Magic Touch: Effortless navigation with one key
Besides being Honor’s first smartphone with front home button which also serves as fingerprint scanner, Honor Magic’s home button is an all-in-one key replacing the “back” and “overview” buttons, enhancing the actual screen size considerably.
You may navigate around, such as unlock the phone, return to previous page, browse history and return to the home screen, simply by touching, double tapping or swiping on the same key.
7. Fast charging
Thanks to the introduction of a special graphite molecular structure of the new battery materials - and the new charging design, Honor Magic achieves an incredible boost. It only takes 20 minutes to juice up the battery to 70% and 10 minutes to charge up to 40%. With Honor Magic, your days of worrying about low batteries are over.
8. 2K AMOLED Curved Screen
Honor Magic features a stunning 5.09-inch 2K AMOLED curved screen which presents the vivid world in all its color.
9. Dual 12MP Parallel Lens
Honor Magic boasts of 12MP dual lens camera, one lens captures black and white image while the other one captures color images - the former guarantees detail and the latter delivers vibrant color. The dual lens work together to effortlessly capture clear and vibrant images.
Found useful? Comment below on what you think about these features?

Not related to the above, but i like to share my thoughts on some initial worries people have about the phone.
1) battery life
While it is indeed a comparatively smaller 2900mAh battery, but its running on a 5.1 inch screen phone. It all comes down to optimization. Samsung S7 was 5.1inch, 2k screen, 3000mAh phone and had decent battery life. The google pixel with 5", 1080p & 2770mAh is not so great in battery life.
So lets hope Honor has optimized it well along with the 90% minute charge in 30 mins being a big relief.
2) The Kirin 950 performance
here again, while on the sheet K950 is not the latest out there, but as seen from real life test of opening apps and ram management, the Huawei phones like Mate9, Honor 8 are actually putting better or on par performance than other phones like One Plus 3T, Iphone 7, S7 Edge, Pixels, etc . And it all has to do with Huawei's EMUI doing some great job in the software department and if that is the case with Honor Magic and its own new UI as well then it should not be a worry.
That said, this is obviously not a phone for hardcore gamers considering its size and design.

warea said:
Not related to the above, but i like to share my thoughts on some initial worries people have about the phone.
That said, this is obviously not a phone for hardcore gamers considering its size and design.
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Agreed. If we pay 35K+ for this phone then we may expect a better battery for sure. not sure in real world how it would perform with 2900 mAH battery but seems Magic UI is light weight than EMUI so we may expect a better performance or battery. lets see how it goes.

I will also add that the Kirin 950 running a 2k screen should also not be a worry as Honor Note 8 with a massive 6.6" 2K display also runs on the Kirin 955.
When compared to Mate 9 20 mp camera, difference is Mate 9 can take better videos with 4k video recording and OIS and it has that nice zoom feature. Besides that there is not much difference and the quality of regular photos aren't any different on the Mate 9.
In short, if really heavy games and high quality video recording are priority to you, then obviously Honor magic is not for you. To be fair Kirin 950 works perfect with games and yet to find any users of P9 series or Honor 8 complain to that effect. But the Kirin 960 is more future proof having twice more powerful GPU and VR capabilities. Also the 2900mAh battery capacity is not best if you spend most of your time on games. Honor magic is also not outstanding if you want to get a phone for real cheap. The Honor 8 is 170$ cheaper than the Magic.
Honor magic shines & seperates from the rest at having a gorgeous unique looking device curved on all 8 sides with 7.8mm at thickest and thins out to about 3mm at the edges. It is also currently the only phone at handy size of 5.1 display having a curved screen. With a 2k Amoled screen display adding to the pleasure.
Despite 2900mAh which is quite normal for a phone of this size , there is the super charger getting 90% in 30 minutes with added safety measures in place as well. The extra front infra red camera & sensors and the front finger print sensor should make getting your notifications and daily usage much more of a relief.
That said, im still having fingers crossed fingers on the UI firstly if it works well with non-Chinese language and don't end up with lot of Chinese stuff popping up that cannot be stopped. If an international version does come out, im not sure if it will bring any of the Magic live contextual aware features, and even if they do so whether it can be ported to the China version of the phone. And secondly since this rom is different from EMUI, it is still at early development stage and with Android 7 update not yet out, i hope i don't miss any crucial & loved features of EMUI 5.0.

warea said:
I will also add that the Kirin 950 running a 2k screen should also not be a worry as Honor Note 8 with a massive 6.6" 2K display also runs on the Kirin 955.
When compared to Mate 9 20 mp camera, difference is Mate 9 can take better videos with 4k video recording and OIS and it has that nice zoom feature. Besides that there is not much difference and the quality of regular photos aren't any different on the Mate 9.
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Agreed completely mate. You have pointed sone really important things here. Lets wait for the global release, if planned any, and see hows the real world experience .

From what im reading, the face recognition on this phone is unique from previous iterations on other phones, in that it recognizes only a 3D face and hence not a photo. And secondly, it can recognize in the dark as well.

warea said:
From what im reading, the face recognition on this phone is unique from previous iterations on other phones, in that it recognizes only a 3D face and hence not a photo. And secondly, it can recognize in the dark as well.
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infrared?

Its a magical device indeed!!!!

If it's infrared, that's one awesome infrared.
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adriansticoid said:
If it's infrared, that's one awesome infrared.
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it must be infrared, low light 3d scaning would be a bad joke, if it's not for the infrared

OnePlus 7 or OnePlus 7 Pro? which one should I buy? Confused

Hi,
I am on my 1st OnePlus, i.e OnePlus3T and now its time to upgrade. I wanted suggestions about whether I should go for OnePlus 7 or 7 Pro? I find 7 Pro attractive, but I am not sure about the rising camera, will it be good for long term usage?
Please help with the wise advice

prachi.rai9070 said:
Hi,
I am on my 1st OnePlus, i.e OnePlus3T and now its time to upgrade. I wanted suggestions about whether I should go for OnePlus 7 or 7 Pro? I find 7 Pro attractive, but I am not sure about the rising camera, will it be good for long term usage?
Please help with the wise advice
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Wrong forum section! .
There are so many reviews right now.
You know your budget and your preferences. The decision should be easy.

Go for 7 Pro if have budget

If you think about 7, keep 6T.
7 Pro, yes, if you got the cash.

Wrong section, and if u have 6T then NONE of them just wait 1 more year

Get the Pro if you have the Dough...

Same here. Torn between the 2.
7 Pro:
+'ves
Better screen
Curved glass
More colours
Extra rear camera
-'ves
Pop up camera
Worse battery life
Curved glass (- for some)
Price
Too big
Too heavy/top heavy
7
+'ves
Cheaper
Same cameras, stereo speakers, waterproofing, upgraded fingerprint sensor, o/s, CPU
Flat screen
Nice size
Better battery life
-'ves
Slightly slower screen
Teardrop notch
Limited colours
Only 2 rear cameras
The 7 has been overshadowed by the pro but the specs are still very good. As usual not so much of an upgrade from the 6T. My 6 was smashed recently and I'm down to my OnePlus One (I couldn't wrench the OnePlus 3 from my son, I didn't have the heart).
At the same price as the Redmi K20 the 7 with the superb Oxygen O/S wins easily for me.
Yes that pop up camera will break. It'll get grit in it and will be a constant annoyance.
In daily use, after the novelty has worn off, and your not comparing it side by side, no one will notice the speed of the screen, including you.
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Still struggling. Thought I'd bash together a spreadsheet...
7 wins
I should try and fine tune the points...
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For the China price, which is 390€ for 8/256GB, it will be easy the 7

fr0d0#2 said:
Still struggling. Thought I'd bash together a spreadsheet...
7 wins
I should try and fine tune the points...
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Hi. Going by your priorities, it's a no contest. Go for the 7. Good luck
PS: I haven't used either, but I'd fill in that table exactly how you have. I barely use the camera. So I'd go for the 7 as well

I got the Pro (my first oneplus phone) but returned it after 3 days. I found the reflections down the sides on the curved screen were just plain ugly and distracting. I suspect I'm on my own on this as I've not seen any mention of it in reviews. I may try the flat screen of the 7, not decided yet.

I will suggest onePlus 7 since it is in more reasonable price and no ghost touch issue

If you have enough budget you can get Oneplus 7 pro. But if you want the same performance and speed like the oneplus 7 pro in a better price you can go with oneplus 7.

Hello,
In my case I think even if they would have same price I would pick the non-pro version, mainly for the flat screen, no moving camera, smaller size, and better battery life with the lower resolution screen. The only point I give to the op7 pro is the zoom. I would also like to know if you would go for the K20pro, knowing that you can find those at a similar price. I think the op7 has better connectivity, in terms of frequency bands, so if you are a person that travels frequently, you would run out of network in some countries. (Additionally op7 has front speakers)

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For the China price, which is 390€ for 8/256GB, it will be easy the 7
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Where is this price found?

7 Pro. Reviewers and people I know said that they cheaped out on regular 7 that it has issues like random bootloops and thermal throttling. So fat 7 pro is perfect and worth the money.

romanlink said:
7 Pro. Reviewers and people I know said that they cheaped out on regular 7 that it has issues like random bootloops and thermal throttling. So fat 7 pro is perfect and worth the money.
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I've not heard of that, at all. Sources please.

romanlink said:
7 Pro. Reviewers and people I know said that they cheaped out on regular 7 that it has issues like random bootloops and thermal throttling. So fat 7 pro is perfect and worth the money.
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Yeah. Please show these reviews. We OP7 owners need to know.
Ok OnePlus seem to ignore the new 7 but so far I'm happy with mine.

white43 said:
I've not heard of that, at all. Sources please.
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Bought the 7 Pro. Used for about a week, returned it. Got the 7 now, totally happy with it. I switched from the 6T, btw.
7 Pro is heavy and I personally don't like heavy phones. But the display is smooth af. Love it totally. But the curves on both sides of the display make no practical use. And the curves also start much earlier compared to Samsung flagships which means the reflections on it affect the content on the screen. Also I didn't exactly like the feel while typing on the curved edges. And the ultrawide camera on the 7 Pro is totally unusable in lowlight.
7 has a flat display and doesn't look as good as the 7 Pro but flat screens are so much more practical. And since it's lighter than the 7, feels good in hands too. Cameras are pretty much the same on both (although f/1.6 on the pro and f/1.7 on the regular).
The speakers are a tad bit louder and better on the 7 Pro, not saying 7's are bad in any way. And Idk why the fingerprint scanner on the 7 Pro feels a bit faster, but don't get me wrong, the 7's is blazing fast too. Despite having a 20W charger, 7 actually charges faster because of the smaller battery. But I must say it gives me better battery backup than the 7 Pro did (because of course the QHD and 90Hz drain a lot of juice).
I'd say, go for the regular 7. It's a better value for money device and doesn't really miss out on anything while compared to the Pro except for the extra cameras and QHD 90Hz display.
Oh and one thing about the Pro, if you get a video call the front cam is gonna popup (even if your phone is in the pocket or a bag). Idk how it's gonna affect it but it doesn't seem like a nice implementation. [UPDATE: Oxygen OS 9.5.8 fixes this!]

Vivo Nex S2 To Use a Detachable Camera Module

https://www.gizchina.com/2019/05/27/vivo-nex-2-to-use-a-detachable-camera-module/
Well seems we are just around the corner and truly successor of Nex S with a unique design approach by Vivo
Whata do you think guys how do you see than design ??
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No thanks. If you misplaced it that's the end. It also looks like it has curved glass. Another no thanks.
I'm beginning to really appreciate my Nex S more and more as new phones are being released. The OpO 7pro is admittedly an upgrade but nothing that tempts me to change. The Zenfone 6 is nice too but early battery numbers indicate the Nex matches the longevity despite that extra 1000mah and a 7nm soc. If this is the Nex S2 then I'm quite happy sticking with my old reliable one for now.

I agree. Curved glass should be against the law. It serves no purpose other than - what?

No reason to leave the Vivo Nex S until Android R is out (he will get Android Q), so we have 1 more year .
I would be maybe ready to upgrade only if i can get one with 5G, Wifi 6 (802.11.AX) and 5'000MAH battery but really no reason to change, the NEX is solid and still really fast.

I'm not leaving my NEX S until there's a device which blows this phone out of the water , specs wise I'm looking for 12gb ram, 6-7 inch super amoled or 4k screen, 90 herz refresh would be nice, under display or pop up camera, 4500 - 5000mah battery, latest prosseser stockish android, not bothered about a headphone Jack, I use Bluetooth, under display finger print reader optional, I was tempted too get the one plus 7 pro but I'm holding out for something that really floats my boat, I'm really happy with this phone at the moment so I'll hold on, Ive just got that itch too buy a new device, maybe the note 10 pro, but that camera hole in the screen is putting me off big-time :angel:

ruk21201 said:
I'm not leaving my NEX S until there's a device which blows this phone out of the water , specs wise I'm looking for 12gb ram, 6-7 inch super amoled or 4k screen, 90 herz refresh would be nice, under display or pop up camera, 4500 - 5000mah battery, latest prosseser stockish android, not bothered about a headphone Jack, I use Bluetooth, under display finger print reader optional, I was tempted too get the one plus 7 pro but I'm holding out for something that really floats my boat, I'm really happy with this phone at the moment so I'll hold on, Ive just got that itch too buy a new device, maybe the note 10 pro, but that camera hole in the screen is putting me off big-time :angel:
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With Vivo it's impossible getting stock or near stock Android experience.
Neither Note 10 offers near stock Android experience but agree that would be top of the line smartphone.
As with Vivo will shall see what going to release or not.
There's uncertainty if gone be successor of Nex S or not.
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paatha13 said:
With Vivo it's impossible getting stock or near stock Android experience.
Neither Note 10 offers near stock Android experience but agree that would be top of the line smartphone.
As with Vivo will shall see what going to release or not.
There's uncertainty if gone be successor of Nex S or not.
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Stock Android is barebones garbage.

Twotems said:
Stock Android is barebones garbage.
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I agree it was 2-3 year ego but not any more.
With Android Q Google has addressed many issues and missing features that some OEM offering.
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paatha13 said:
I agree it was 2-3 year ego but not any more.
With Android Q Google has addressed many issues and missing features that some OEM offering.
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OEM skins are still and will remain ahead of stock. There are plenty of useful features that stock still doesn't have. For example, I just started using Easy Touch on my NexS and set it to pull down the notification shade instead of reaching or using two hands. It's transformed the phone for me.

Twotems said:
OEM skins are still and will remain ahead of stock. There are plenty of useful features that stock still doesn't have. For example, I just started using Easy Touch on my NexS and set it to pull down the notification shade instead of reaching or using two hands. It's transformed the phone for me.
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Yes OEM still have the advantages over features and functionality but stock android has closed the gap.
Still prefer some OEM skin over stock but wouldn't consider any more deal breaker having device with stock or near stock android.
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paatha13 said:
Yes OEM still have the advantages over features and functionality but stock android has closed the gap.
Still prefer some OEM skin over stock but wouldn't consider any more deal breaker having device with stock or near stock android.
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Not necessarily a deal breaker but I'll take an OEM skin 9 times out of 10.

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Not necessarily a deal breaker but I'll take an OEM skin 9 times out of 10.
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To be honest I would consider Pixel device as my number one priority if had full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes and being 300-350 bucks cheaper that what costs. [emoji14]
Until then I'm dealing with Oneplus or Vivo as I'm aware of the software and how to manage it to meet my needs as better could be.
Sammy or Huawei as much as tried always something bothered me and couldn't deal with it as everyday long-term living with them.
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paatha13 said:
To be honest I would consider Pixel device as my number one priority if had full screen experience without any stupid notch or punch holes and being 300-350 bucks cheaper that what costs. [emoji14]
Until then I'm dealing with Oneplus or Vivo as I'm aware of the software and how to manage it to meet my needs as better could be.
Sammy or Huawei as much as tried always something bothered me and couldn't deal with it as everyday long-term living with them.
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I'm not a fan of Pixel devices. Ugly design, software bugs, average battery life and no dual-sim. Right now my sot is 4hrs 26mins with 63% remaining. This phone is amazing.

But has superior camera performance, ip68 water resistant, stereo speakers, instant updates.
Yes they're ugly as hell that's why I wouldn't consider yet as alternative +they're costs more than my budget.
So every users at the end choice whatever meets their needs.
Nobody perfect.
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