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s3 to n5?

I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?

Aside from possibly the camera...and no SD slot.....yes, a huge upgrade. IMHO.

I just came from my GS3 to the N5 and the difference is night and day. Even with a KitKat rom on my GS3 it isnt nearly as fast and smooth as the N5.
Not to mention N5 roms are nearly bug free.
You do lose the SD card as mentioned above, the camera (I think) is a little better quality.
Battery is way better.

Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies. I was thinking I'd wait for the lg g3 but it seems like the g2 is difficult to unlock and root, at least when it has 4.4. I have been using KitKat on my s3 for so long I don't think I could be happy with anything lower. The s3 is good but after I've been using my n7 for a while the Samsung feels slow.
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You won't be disappointed with the upgrade. Went from i747 to N5 and everything is so much smoother. Keep your s3 with a proven rom as a backup but don't expect to jump back to it once you feel the difference in speed and reliability of the nexus 5.
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kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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I came 2 days ago from a d2spr. I can't begin to explain the night and day difference between the 2.
Hardware aside, the development here is way more active than on the s3 side. Hope to see you here.....

kingston73 said:
I've had my tmo s3 for a little more than a year now and it's still going strong and I like it but I'm thinking of possibly buying a nexus 5. Looking at used ones but also considering possibly getting it brand new from Google. Have any of you upgraded from the s3 to this? Would it be m much of an upgrade? Just wait for another 6 months for the nexus 6?
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One and half month back I had the same confusion regarding this.
But after switching to N5, I am quite happy than before, until and unless you experience it you wont understand the differences of its software and hardware from S3.

Wi Fi Direct
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5

chainsuk said:
Everyone forgot to tell you that wi fi direct does not work on the N5
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Never used it...

galaxy s5 is better
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watalee said:
galaxy s5 is better
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Please don't troll.
"better" is subjective. Samsung cannot make a touchwiz device that doesn't lag. All of us who have had Galaxy devices know this. The s5 is no exception. The OP did not mention the S5. If he wanted an S5, he would have posted this in the S5 forum. Lets try to stay on topic please.

For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5

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For sure they are two different "worlds".
If you seek speed of light and high rate of updates then you should go, for sure, of N5
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That's exactly why I was looking at the n5 and not the s5. I found a 32gb black nexus for $315 on swappa so it's on its way now. I know the s5 has better stats on paper but it would also ruin any warranty if I rooted it ( samsungs counter). I like experimenting with different roms and I haven't used tpuchwiz for months. I know the n5 isn't exactly new but it's new enough that it should get the next update version of andriod.

I came from the Note 2, which is similar spec to the S3, and here’s what I miss the most:
-Wolfson DAC: With DAC Direct, audio sounded far superior on Note 2 (the reason audiophiles love Samsung phones)
-APT-X Bluetooth Codec: Again, sounds far superior to standard BT audio
-Phase Detection Auto Focus: For fast focus lock. N5 uses contrast detection, which is why it’s slow to focus
-Camera voice commands: Handy when taking photos of the kids / pets etc
-Expandable Storage: I would have liked the option to use my own SD cards, however I have bought a USB OTG SD card reader so this point is moot now
Apart from that I couldn’t be happier with the N5, and am actually happy to be rid of all Samsung’s gimmicks and so called “features”.
So if you haven’t already, go for it!

Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above

kingston73 said:
Another question, I've read that google slightly changed the n5 after complaints about the speaker, is there any way to figure out if my used phone I just bought is one of the originals or a modified one? I know there's nothing I can do either way, just curious.
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This might help identify what model you have:
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Dec2013/google-nexus-5-gets-design-changes.html
I believe I have the "revised" model, but the speaker still sucks.
In fact, I should have added "speaker" to what I miss from the Note 2 in the list above
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Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276

rootSU said:
Nope, its complete BS. Some have little holes some have big holes. Some have softer soft touch, some have yellower displays. It's not a revision. It is not a concious decision.
Read about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...lease-stop-talking-hardware-versions-t2597276
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I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
Good post though, hit the nail on the head regarding tolerance, human error, and everything else really.
Like yourself I have light bleed, but I can live with it as it's only noticeable when it boots up.

CitizenLee said:
I'm new to the N5 so wasn't aware of any of these issues until I read about them today, so I just posted the first link that appeared in Google regarding the "differences".
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No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.

rootSU said:
No worries. Loads of website reported it as fact for a long time and we still see the repercussions of that now.
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Aye, seems to be quite common these days that websites run a story without properly fact checking!

AT&T Tab 4 8.0 Owners

Figured I'd stay a thread for those of us who have an AT&T Tab 4 SM-T337A variant. Anyone weeks have one? What are your thoughts? I'll probably post some in the coming days as I use it more.

I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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bl2128 said:
I have the T-Mobile version, but it's pretty much the same. I am moving from an AT&T tab 3 7.0 and so far I am not sure if I'm impressed yet. One thing I have noticed is that there is not an ambient light sensor on this model. It's a small quirk, but something I feel should have been added. Overall build quality is ok, and it seems responsive to me, but I think once my case shows up I will be more inclined to use it as I normally do without worrying so much about scuffing it up.
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The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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Actually, I didn't have the vibrate function on the tab 3 and was didsappointed. I was happy to have one on the 4, but I have no idea why I would need it now. I would have rather seen that left out too. I'm really hoping to a root exploit soon so I can tinker with this one at least. I didn't really pay attention to the camera because I really don't use it. I really only use my tab for streaming music and poking around on the interwebs.
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Essentially, what Samsung said to us is "Here is the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor and a vibrator, but we downgraded the speakers and camera and got rid of auto brightness."
This sounds absurd when you put it that way. I would have preferred "Here's the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It's $30 cheaper than last year's model, with a better processor, but we had to get rid of the IR blaster and continue to leave out a vibrator." To me, that sounds much more reasonable.
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oldblue910 said:
The lack of an ambient light sensor was a real head scratcher for me too, especially because the Galaxy Tab 3 had one. I also noticed that they downgraded the camera. The Tab 3 8.0 had a 5 megapixel autofocus camera while the Tab 4 8.0 has a 3 megapixel fixed focus camera. Further, they seem to have gotten rid of the stereo speakers in favor of one mono speaker on the back. I don't get these decisions at all. I realize that the Tab 4's biggest upgrade over the Tab 3 is the processor, but did adding a quad core processor really make it so they had to skimp on the light sensor, speakers, and camera? If they needed to take something away, I'd have preferred they get rid of the IR blaster or vibrator, personally.
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From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.

mrksbrd said:
From what I read, the Tab line has been downgraded to make room for the pro series which had all the bells and whistles. I just picked my 8" model up yesterday. So far it does what I want just a bit laggy at times, hopefully something a recovery and kernel could fix.
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Yeah, the AT&T version's stock ROM definitely has some performance issues. Hopefully they'll get rectified with the first system update, whenever that happens.
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Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security

mrksbrd said:
Wonder when the 4.4.2 stock firmware is going to be released.....i need security
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=34969

I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update ?

Repeated from another post.. appropriate here as well
LTE Tab 4 models have Kids Mode removed
I spoke to Samsung Telecommunications US headquarters this week out of frustration of not having the Kids Mode App on our two new AT&T LTE Samsung Tab 4 devices and have confirmed that all LTE models have had the Kids Mode feature removed from their devices. And, the most frustrating thing is actually on Samsung's own website for the individual, specific LTE models which lists the Kids Mode feature as a key selling point. And yes, the first thing people say is: "Have you checked for the latest updates (Android & Samsung.) And, the answer is yes. I have confirmed this removal with Samsung and notified them that this is indeed a huge problem. Maybe not so much for me or for you who may thrive off all things tech, but for the grandparent or parent buying this for their child with the sole purpose of using this key selling feature to help protect their child. Their frustration and discomfort in trying to use what they've been sold and not being able to will only push them away from Samsung or other Android devices. It is a disservice to both the Samsung and Android names as well as to the customer. And it makes us maybe reflect on what we can learn from apple (which pains me to say): when they advertise a feature, it does work on their devices especially on the new ones and even more so on a product listed to have the feature. It's both disappointing and embarrassing to see as both a Samsung and Android supporter.
And one more thing that pains me as an AT&T employee, which I am but not in mobility, that must be said!.. Samsung and AT&T have thought of our kids protection and replaced the Kids Mode with another app. FAMIGO!.. which is a PAID subscription of $4.99 a month to protect your Child!! THINKING of this even more gets me so infuriated!! What an absolute disservice and embarrassment!!
Can anyone get the Kids Mode AK ported from the WiFi version so we can use it on this device?

pre4speed said:
I *may* have some good news coming. I am working with a couple developers to at least get a custom recovery for the t337a. Hopefully they are successful. Will update when there is an update
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Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...

ayekonify said:
Wish there was an update by now lol...
Patiently awaiting 5.0 on this pig...
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I thought all had seen. Sorry. No chance of recovery. Locked bootloader+little developer interest=no safestrap or other custom recovery.

couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.

superp32 said:
couldn't we use flash fire to get custom roms , it works on the att version of the s5 , I have my tab 4 (8) rooted so I could use flash fire just need something to flash lol I almost tried flashing a rom for another carrier but dont want to brick my tablet.
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I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.

cstayton said:
I am testing FlashFire now for compatibility, so far so good it has no problems updating SuperSU thru flashing a zip file action. unfortunately there is no OEM firmware other than the original NF4 firmware, I will be looking into a build from the NK2 system dump however, system dumps are notoriously buggy.
Please don't ask for ETA's don't PM me with questions, give me a couple weeks to iron out any inconsistencies and we will se what happens.
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When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol

pre4speed said:
When you use flashfire, do you have a black screen while it is carrying out the options you chose? Mine goes black but after it is complete, reboots normal. Scared the crap out of me the first time I used it. Lol
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IKR tht feeling when you think you bricked but actually its just normal haha ;D i still get always scared sh*t out of me because ive had bad luck with odin flashes 4 times... I hate reflashing stock and install all apps and accounts again... almost 10 hours job...

It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.

goldentequila said:
It's nice to find a thread for AT&T Tab 4 8.0 owners. Are all of you on AT&T? I got mine unlocked, and I'm planning to use mine with TMO. It already works for their paid plans, but it can't sign up for their 200mb free plan (apparently because this tablet is not in their eligible database). I'm toying with the idea of flashing a TMO ROM to see if that'll work, but I'm guessing it won't.
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Out of curiosity without safestrap for this device, how do you plan on flashing another ROM to this phone since the bootloader is locked and visa vi no custom recovery?

Voice call
Has anyone figured out how to enable voice calls on the SM-T337A? I've rooted with Towelroot and tried to update the modem.bin file with the one for SM-T337T. No luck. Advance thanks.

How does locked BL effect you?

Well since there is to be no root or recovery we are left with discussion and mods/apps which do not require root.
My question to the group is how does this phone being locked down effect you. Many say they will wait and hope, others saying returning/selling ASAP and still others are saying this phone doesn't need it.
As far as how it effects me? Not a whole lot, Android has come a long way and this phone is super solid. I feel that this version of Touchwiz is non intrusive even less so than the Note 5 which barely lasted a month. I do appreciate root, and when I can, I always root. For me the biggest problem is Samsung's abhorrent updating. Sure we get special treatment over older still supported devices but let's keep it real Samsung sucks. After a year Samsung magically becomes even slower. I also greatly appreciate a stock Google experience. I will probably sell this bad boy. Once my bogo comes through
I currently have Nexus 5x and Nexus 6. And am undecided as to which one I will keep although leaning towards Nexus 6. I may end up keeping s7 edge until Nexus 2016 comes out, but that option is looking unlikely

If I had known ahead of time the S7 bootloader was locked I would have bought the wife and I Nexus 6 devices and then gone to Project FI

yea sux when i found this out. but remember AT&T bootloaders were always locked down well for the most part and DEVs have always found a way to do it or work around it. I know u guys remember The days of the Loki patches rainbow recoveries etc..lol . phone has only been out a week give it some time fellas have faith in our DEVs they are the BEAST! IT WILL HAPPEN dont ask me how i just know these guys never disappoint!
in the mean time if u haven't already check this out these dudes are sweet they have instructions for non rooted requires a $2 app but worth it for now I confirm they work on my S7, cheers :laugh:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/themes-apps/avengers-theme-individual-mode-t3140647

I waited months for my LG G4 to get root and a bootloader unlock. Finally got cm13 and just a short time later upgraded to the S7... I miss cm13, but it'll just take some time and it'll be back on my phone.

How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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chakra said:
How does it effect me, we'll it means that I don't actually own my $800. Pocket computer. I am not the administrator so my info can be easily stolen and the device can be crippled by limiting updates. It's basically a $800. Device that will be current for 4 months. Garbage.
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Return it

For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..

mikesincredible said:
For myself, i wish i could just remove bloat. Speed and function is rather quick. Being able to load 3rd party launchers is the only benefit to UI changes..eh...I like the water proof feature. ..
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Check out package disabler pro

Dovigoldberger said:
Check out package disabler pro
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Thank you!

I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.

gamepr said:
I just returned the s7. Back to the s6 until the LG g5 is released.
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Mine's going back tomorrow, unless there's some news. I figure that I can just re-purchase it once/if BL is unlocked, or check out the G5.

Going to do the jump to the g5 most likely.. I didnt have to root my g4 to get the software how I like it. There is just too much samsung integration here to get around it all without having lots of minor annoyances (no major ones, just lots of little **** I dont like).

Locked BL affects me moderately. I prefer lower DPI so without xposed/app settings, the camera/video calls aren't full screen. I also lose the ability to customize the phone (xposed/wanam). I have a harder time transferring apps (no Titanium Backup). I miss out on the whole reason for liking Snapdragon over exynos (kernels, CM). I never considered returning the phone (t-mobile's BOGO free + 2 yr netflix + $60 + wireless chargers from Samsung Pay + 2 GearVR was a ridiculous deal). I have considered selling/swapping for a 930F (all it would take is VOLTE + native video dialing and I'd swap immediately).

Just got my s7 today . . Retired my note 3 after years of use .... s7 is awsome right out the box ... very fast battery is great ... happy with the purchase
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Pretty much using Nexus 6 on project Fi. It's interesting not using as much data but I do like the service. Going between sprint and T-Mobile has been nice. I have no real desire to go to 6p now. I am really hoping that Google will release another 6 inch phone soon. If it's only 5.5 I will be disappointed but will still probably get the next Nexus

My Nexus 6 is unrooted, I just know Samsung won't get Android N until the Note 6 is released

(Root Discussion) [Nothing Yet] Snapdragon G965U

All discussion and info pertaining to root goes here.
Will update this OP as needed.
4/26/2018- There are TWO people working on root. Don't expect it ANYTIME soon. ?. Zero progress has been made since release.

Reserved

This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root method for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
Note: As some of you know like with the Note 8, there exists the v1, v2, v2.5, v3 root methods for the different firmware. What I'm curious about is at what point will we be completely locked out of our S9+'s due to those virus updates/patches?
Tip: DO NO BLINDLY JUMP TO UPDATES FOLKS... NEIN NEIN NEIN.... If you roll up too far and that virus update/patch so happens to be the one to lock the device out from ever being able to obtain some kind of root, you'll be totally SOL.

iunlock said:
This is the single most 'thing' I'm waiting for...is a root for the S9+ ... I wouldn't mind something like samfail for the Note 8, which I'm running and is absolutely perfect in doing everything it needs to...
I used to be all about ROM ROM ROM ... but honestly the stock firmware has been great with it debloated and cleaned up.
Hoping for the best... If we get Root for the S9+ (SD variant) I'm in for another S9+ lol...
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Stock has come a long way.
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Stock has come a long way.
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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+

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Yes indeed it has. MM 6.0 was great...Nougat 7.0 has been awesome....Oreo 8.0 has been a complete disaster like LP 5.0 was.
I still favor the simplicity of the good ol' JB 4.3 days lol....
At the end of the day, I'll take root over a custom ROM any day and I'm sure a lot of folks are in that same boat as well...
Not being able to use Titanium Back Up has been painful. :fingers-crossed: for root for the S9+
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What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
Sent from my stupid Note8

sicfast said:
What's the problem with 8.0? It hasn't even been fully released on all devices yet.
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For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?

I'm very happy with 8.0

iunlock said:
For the apps that I use, it's mainly compatibility issues...also as time goes on things are getting more and more locked down. Heck Android P might as well rename it to Android iOS. It's absolutely daunting on where Android is headed now.... it is drunk on the Apple kool aid.
What happened to asop and the freedom right?
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The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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sicfast said:
The reason why it's become so bad, my opinion anyway, is people who have no business rooting their phones are doing it and wrecking their phones, then wanting someone else to foot the bill for it.
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That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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iunlock said:
That could very well add to the sky falling.
However, a lot of this proprietary security stuff is causing the lock down too with Knox etc...
They should just offer the ability to unlock bl/BB and have a button that needs be to tapped 10x to confirm the void in warranty by proceeding... That way it's idiot proof and fair game.
If people are too lazy to read, then they deserve to pay the tuition of reality check 101 lol..
I know I'm blunt... But it's the truth and most would agree.
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Pretty much the way it is in the automotive world. You blow it up, you fix it.
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why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.

G965F doesnt support B71 for Tmobile in USA

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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Because that is the default device for the North American market.
I'm perfectly happy with my SD version. Good battery life and performance seems to be spectacular.

x111 said:
why someone even bother to buy trash broken snapdragon version, just why ?
we have a normal unlocked working version with exynos chipset.
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...AND because those with T-Mobile can get land a killer deal on the top Samsung flagships.
Ex. T-Mobile had a BOGO Deal on the Note 8, which makes both of my Note 8's come out to ~$410. If I sell my 2nd one, I would be making +$300 to own my current Note 8 LOL ... just saying... (Pic attached of the $820 pre paid Mastercard for proof that I got back for the 2nd Note 8... not that it's needed, but it doesn't hurt to back it up.) Even if I keep my 2nd Note 8 as a back up, I'm still in the win for obtaining a flagship for less than the wannabe chinese knock off's out there that are no longer really cheap at $450-$500+ now *cough* OP5 ...
The S9/S9+ has a trade in deal right now as well for either $200 or $360, depending on what phone you trade in. So why would I pass up getting $200 for my old S4's and S5's? ...there's no way to get even close to that in today's market.... it's a no brainer.
I do agree that the Exynos variants are much better in terms of CPU and Dev support. A non rooted phone is useless to me, so that is one of the reasons why I even opted for the SD Note 8, ONLY because it has root. As for the S9+ there is a working Titanium Back Up alternative that allows me to freeze the virus software updates so that's the only reason why the S9+ is not going back. We're all hoping for a root for the SD S9+'s.... fingers crossed.
Of course I'd love to get my hands on the 256GB Exynos S9+, however, it is still unsure if it will suffer from the carrier aggregation the Exynos Note 8 had on our US networks. I know that there are a few folks that have ordered the Korean 256GB Exynos variant, so once we get confirmation that those work 100% with TM, I'm all in for another S9+.

So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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Hopefully the S9 line gets root. The S8 having no proper form of root at the time and the Note 8 being such a good deal while having root made it hard not to get. Hopefully they Note 9 has a form of Samfail again.

jagrave said:
So I keep pushing the first update back. Should I go ahead and take it? I'm on Verizon and I know sometimes firmware from release date is easier to root.
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I'm wondering the same thing. Please.
Dude, after the s5, all of my knowledge on rooting etc has gone in the crapper.
I have the unlocked us variant but am on Verizon's network.
As ll the talk regarding the s8+ was even so hard for me to understand and all this used to be so easy. Where did I take a wrong turn? Lol

Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.

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Doesn't look good guys. Seems like zero development is going on for us Snapdragon users. I've asked and looked in every message board. Seems it's only me and 2 other people working on root.
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Noooooooo! I don't even know where to begin to help.
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Question Woo! Anyone else excited?

I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!

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I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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I've had my eye on this phone for a while. The specs look really nice and at $400 it's a decent deal for what you get. Will be watching to see how the rom development goes. I think they released the kernel a while ago so hopefully something happens soon.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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Hey, yup, I'm looking forward to this phone. I also live in the US and like Moto, unlike a lot of people. If you don't mind me asking, what carrier do you use? With no North American variant announced yet I'm thinking of buying one from another region. Just wasn't sure if it would necessarily work. I don't have any experience buying phones outside of this region. Any advice would be great.

I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I live in the US, but I ordered an Edge S before I realized that the G100 might launch in the USA soon. Even so, it's looking like it might be more like $500, and I paid less than $400 for the Chinese Edge S. Hopefully the $100 savings will be worth it. But value-wise, I'm very excited for this phone. Some people are kind of angsty because it's an LCD display instead of OLED, but in the battery life comparisons I've seen it does very well and is just behind the Galaxy S 21 in overall endurance. I have the Black Shark 3 Pro but I've just never been happy with it since day one. The UI isn't great, it lacks NFC (I didn't know or else I wouldn't have gotten it...who makes a $700-$800 flagship without NFC?!?), and it lacks desktop mode. All of those were actually better on my previous phone, the Mate 20X. The UI wasn't much better on my last phone, but it was a little bit. I like how Motorola is really light on their UI and on extra apps, focusing more on hardware and a smooth experience. I had Motorolas before and I've really liked them, and a lot of my family has Motorolas now and they're happy too. My only hesitancy is that the screen is a tad small, smallest I've had in a while. But I think 6.7 will still be big enough. And hopefully too, I can sell my Black Shark 3 Pro for more than I paid for the Edge S since my phone is still in very good condition. I guess we'll see!
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Did u flash the global rom or using the chines rom. And from where did u buy?

Steve331 said:
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
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This may be the route I go with. I guess it all depends whether the phone is released here in NA. I've seen articles that have said "more news to come" regarding a release and I've also seen at least one that has said "will not be available in North America". Of course, none are official statements by Motorola, so either can be true. I really like this phone, though, and one way or another, I'm going to pick it up.

Steve331 said:
I think you could buy a Moto edge S from Chinese, the cheapest version is 1999￥ RMB.
After that, you unlock the Bootloader, when the global version release - G100, you can flash the global version firmware. It's very nice!
To be honest, the Moto edge S (Chinese version), the UI is MyUI, not pure Moto UI. It's very ugly.
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I've not seen it for this price anywhere. Where are you finding it?

I bought mine from AliExpress, but I've also bought from Giztop.com before and it was fine. I don't have the phone yet, it should be arriving probably in another week or so. I don't know of any bootloader unlock, nor having access to a global ROM to flash.
As far as buying phones from outside your region, kimovil.com seems to have the most accurate and also easiest to read info about which service bands a device has. I have AT&T, and this device has more LTE bands than my current one, which works fine anyway. I may not really get 5G, but I don't think AT&T has 5G in my area yet anyway.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I bought mine from AliExpress, but I've also bought from Giztop.com before and it was fine. I don't have the phone yet, it should be arriving probably in another week or so. I don't know of any bootloader unlock, nor having access to a global ROM to flash.
As far as buying phones from outside your region, kimovil.com seems to have the most accurate and also easiest to read info about which service bands a device has. I have AT&T, and this device has more LTE bands than my current one, which works fine anyway. I may not really get 5G, but I don't think AT&T has 5G in my area yet anyway.
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u can try unlocking bootloader as moto allow it. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b. U also can flash global rom using Rescue and Smart Assistant application

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u can try unlocking bootloader as moto allow it. https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-b. U also can flash global rom using Rescue and Smart Assistant application
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Cool. I'll consider it after I get it. But most likely the Chinese ROM will be fine. The description says it comes with Google services and has English language. I'll probably only try to flash Global if I run into issues.

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I've not seen it for this price anywhere. Where are you finding it?
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You could find Moto edge S on China website, like jd.com or taobao.com.
if they could send it to your country, China retail version is the lowest price.

Steve331 said:
You could find Moto edge S on China website, like jd.com or taobao.com.
if they could send it to your country, China retail version is the lowest price.
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Thanks! Never heard of these sites. Definitely beats aliexpress price

Timmons said:
Thanks! Never heard of these sites. Definitely beats aliexpress price
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I bought mine a few months back when they were doing pre-order from giztop.com. They shipped to Canada. now I'm just waiting for the G100 rom to flash the Edge S, and I'll be 100% happy. Other than that. great phone.

I 'm using the edge s . i find the phone 3.5mm headphone sound is so bad quality. Especially at low volume, there are obvious noises that accompany the ups and downs of the music.

Hello everyone! I am very exited about this phone too. I live in Argentina and ordered the Moto G 100 a few days ago (8GB+128GB+USB C to HDMI Cable). Next week should be in my hands.
I am also thinking about custom ROMs like PixelExperience, which I really like. Currently I have a Redmi Note 7 4GB+64GB I am very happy with the behavior of PixelExperience on it. I am a little afraid that I am will not get used to the Motorola UI.
Also thinking about custom ROMs do you think that the "Ready For" feature will be compatible?

So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.

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So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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Pixel experience is pretty awesome. Hopefully the smart devs on xda work on it eventually.

HopelesRomantc91 said:
So far I like the Motorola UI, but it really is personal preference. I've never tried PixelExperience. As for Ready For, I can't say. But starting with Android 10, desktop mode was built-in as a developer option. I haven't tested that feature at all, but I imagine it's decent and similar to Ready For.
As soon as you get your G100, if you could download the Rescue and Smart Assistant, download your firmware, and then upload it and share it here, that would be awesome.
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Sure! I can do that.
Sorry, I am new here, where is right place to upload those kind of things?

I actually don't know. I would like to summon @sd_shadow to ask, where is the best place to upload firmware?

HopelesRomantc91 said:
I actually don't know. I would like to summon @sd_shadow to ask, where is the best place to upload firmware?
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Androidfilehost.com is good, some complain about the download speed
Mega.nz is good
Google drive is good
Edit: Sorry I thought AFH had a free upload