It is apparent that verizon S3 enthusiasts will never be able to take an OTA, how do we disable them completely so there are no accidents?
Do you guys have root yet? Titanium backup> freeze everything Verizon (including kies) related. Especially the one that says "update".
Of course in ics you can disable a lot of bloatware w/o root. Go to apps long press on app of choice hit disable.
Make sure to hIt "stop" process first.
Freezing via TiBu is best .
freakboy13 said:
Do you guys have root yet? Titanium backup> freeze everything Verizon (including kies) related. Especially the one that says "update".
Of course in ics you can disable a lot of bloatware w/o root. Go to apps long press on app of choice hit disable.
Make sure to hIt "stop" process first.
Freezing via TiBu is best .
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Root has been achieved but is probably 100% guaranteed to be broken by an OTA. Any enthusiast will depend solely on the dev community for updates for the life of the phone.
So, I have been hearing that a SGS3 OTA is on the way, and has begun rolling out on Sprint. I will be getting my vzw sgs3 tonight, should I be wary of installing this OTA? Do you think they already fixed the exploit even after less than 24 hours?
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So, I have been hearing that a SGS3 OTA is on the way, and has begun rolling out on Sprint. I will be getting my vzw sgs3 tonight, should I be wary of installing this OTA? Do you think they already fixed the exploit even after less than 24 hours?
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I would err on the side of caution and not take any OTA's unless the devs approve. At the minimum right now we have root. Verizon OTA's on encrypted devices are notorious for breaking existing exploits. All OTA's will be repackaged by the devs into something we can use, so you gain nothing by taking an OTA. Fact of life with an encrypted device.
Not having a lot of luck finding the answer to this, anybody?
Hi folks,
My Shield 32 GB just arrived and is charged up. I've signed on with a google account and done nothing else.
I will eventually root it but want to put it through its paces for a month or so first.
It arrived with KK 4.4.2 (wow! so old!) on it. It offers an OTA update from October 2014. Says it is OTA 1.21. I've seen LOTS of other OTA numbers much later around these forums. Do I have to take the 1.21 OTA before I can get to the more recent ones?
And, by taking the OTA, am I doing anything irreversible that I probably shouldn't do, since I'm eventually a rooting and maybe ROMing kind of guy?
Thanks. I've read up and it looks like I probably want to go all the way to the 5.1 release, once they sort out the speaker-killing bug. But for the moment I'd like to make sure I'm not missing anything before taking the OTA.
Thanks!
Marc
I decided to download the update after I successfully activated the device on AT&T's cellular network.
That was a bit of a hassle... couldn't do it from the device (the ATT app said something about incompatibility with the SIM card), the PC online web registration wouldn't accept it because NVidia Shield wasn't listed in the device types, and it took the efforts of 3 ATT folks to get me activated. First one passed me to the second one when he found out it was a device not purchased from ATT (but... dude... here's the SIM and IMEI number that's all you need...), the second one set me up and told me to call another number to accept terms and conditions. Did that, still no joy, found the default APN isn't set up right. Fixed that, still no joy, eventually talked to person 3 that found out they didn't attach a data plan to the device when they set it up... as part of my family shared data account. Duh.
Anyway, I applied the 1.21 and then it prompted me to download the 2.1 update to Android 5.01. It has downloaded. I think I want to copy it over to my PC before I let it apply.
Marc
Hmmm. Poked around and found the 1.21 update but not the 2.1 full LTE OTA. Perhaps I'd need root to get at the files. Oh well. I can always download it if I need it. Applying the 2.1 update now.
And I've made it all the way to the 2.2.1 hotfix. Seems stable enough for the moment.
I understand OTA 3.0 got pulled; so I guess I'll be staying on Lollipop 5.01 until they release the fix.
It's a bit surprising that I had to do all the updates sequentially and that there wasn't any direct-to-the-latest. But it didn't take long. I wonder if all these OTAs are clogging up my memory somewhere?
OK, on to exploration!
Marc
the update got pulled indeed, caused all kind of problems, including blown speakers
nvidia employee told us on nvidia forum they would release a new OTA 3.1, targeted end of june
lastest news: it's now targeted end of july....
Hi, I just wanted to give everyone some information to updating to 5.1.1 as many of you are probably buying these due to the recent sales. If you don't want to root but wanted the 5.1.1 update through AT&T, here is the guide. You could also try rolling the date method but it did not work for me. I actually bought a bunch of these phones for friends and family, and I've updated five of them to 5.1.1 through AT&T OTA update, and this method is very time efficient
Side note: if you have more than one G Flex2 that you are looking to update, you can update them all using just one sim and swapping them between phones.
Before you begin, do a factory reset under settings if you've already pressed software update and tried rolling the date a few times to get the update. Afterward, do not press software update until you are sure that the AT&T person has pushed the update.
*If you had previously rooted your phone, you must unroot before trying the OTA update, as it will prevent it from installing.
Here are my steps (probably takes around 30 minutes):
1. Register for the gophone plan with the AT&T sim card and put the minimum $10 credit into the plan. For the IMEI, put all zeroes in. This will allow you to select the $2 monthly plan, which you ultimately won't be selecting but instead will select the $1 100mb daily package after your account and sim have been activated.
2. Turn the phone on with your newly activated gophone sim. TURN ON WIFI and keep it on WIFI until your update is downloaded, installed, and finished.
3. Directly call the gophone support line: 800.901.9878, and voice navigate your way to technical support (it's an automated system).
4. When the person picks up on customer service, ask them to put you through to advanced technical support, and if they ask what the call is for, tell them that you were disconnected while talking with an advanced technical support line as this will get you where you need to faster.
5. Ask the person on advanced technical support to push an update to your phone, and tell them that you've tried manually updating through the software update on your phone under settings numerous times. If they insist that they cannot push updates and you have to do it yourself on your phone, tell them that your friend has a G Flex2 with a gophone plan, and he/she was able to get the update pushed with a call to advanced technical support. If you think that the support person is being stubborn and not even attempting to try it, just hang up and try again.
6. Help the support person find the update that you are looking for by telling them the update is called H95011x. DO NOT get the H95011z beforehand, as it will not help you. Ask explicitly for the H95011x update. You can also read some more information from this page, which is the link to the page with the update information (edit: cannot post the link since I'm a newbie... Alternatively, you can find the software info page it if you type H95011x on google and look for the link to the site att.com)
7. Keep asking them to push update from their side, and you will know that they've pushed it when you go to the software update under settings on your phone and it says something different now. Instead of "look for update software" or something similar, it will now say, "continue with software update". When you press it, a notification will appear, saying "communication in progress". Tap on the button a few times to make sure that it keeps saying "communication in progress".
8. When you see "communication in progress", just leave the phone alone for the next hour or two, as the phone is downloading the update file without showing you any sort of progress bar. Keep the phone connected to wifi.
9. Come back and a notification will prompt you to install update and the phone will restart.
Hope this helps! I know that getting the AT&T OTA update can be a pain and I wished that I had some guide to follow when I was first trying to get the update.
I am on 5.0.1 v10d right now and rooted. Do I have to unroot in order for the update to work?
illego said:
I am on 5.0.1 v10d right now and rooted. Do I have to unroot in order for the update to work?
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I'm not sure, but reading things about going from AT&T 5.1.1 to rooting 5.1.1 PR bricking some phones makes me think that it might be a good idea to unroot.
This is the best guide/advice on how to get 5.1.1 update. Took me 20 min to get the H95011x update and another 15 min on same date to get H95011z.
I wasted about 2 hours trying to get the update OTA by changing dates using my coworker's sim card on Att postpaid plan.
When I read this guide I knew right away the $10 top up will not be waisted. I went ahead and followed it exactly and am so glad I did. The phone is so much better now.
khlavkalash thank you for taking the time, register and putting together this guide! I will also try to contribute by answering further questions in this thread.
Here is the link for the AT&T website detailing the H95011z update. Now if I could just find a rep that is capable of pushing the update to my phone. Grr.
Wish this worked...
I followed this process twice (on two separate days) and they insisted that updates are released only in "batches" and that they have zero control over pushing updates. This phone is awesome, but with it being tethered to ATT for updates makes it so hard to love.
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I followed this process twice (on two separate days) and they insisted that updates are released only in "batches" and that they have zero control over pushing updates. This phone is awesome, but with it being tethered to ATT for updates makes it so hard to love.
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I've had the same issue as you. I was lucky enough to have my sim associated with an iphone plan from way back in the day. As soon as the tech associated my sim to an android data plan it kicked off the 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 H95011x update. Now trying to get them to push the H95011z update has been an adventure in futility.
I will update you if I find another way.
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I've had the same issue as you. I was lucky enough to have my sim associated with an iphone plan from way back in the day. As soon as the tech associated my sim to an android data plan it kicked off the 5.0.1 to 5.1.1 H95011x update. Now trying to get them to push the H95011z update has been an adventure in futility.
I will update you if I find another way.
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Hmm, I opened a new gophone plan and added 10 bucks of data just so I could do this. Been sitting on my shelf for the better part of two days doing nothing. I hope you get the H95011z update soon. Heck, I'd be thrilled to just get the x update.
Thanks for the info.
mtweisenbarger777 said:
I followed this process twice (on two separate days) and they insisted that updates are released only in "batches" and that they have zero control over pushing updates. This phone is awesome, but with it being tethered to ATT for updates makes it so hard to love.
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Make sure you talk to advanced technical support and use the first rep that picks up the phone just to get transferred further.
If advaced tech says it comes in batches - tell him "I understand this is normal process, however according to my extensive research there is an issue with this particular phone getting update automatically. My friend had the update pushed by advanced technical support last week. Please ask arround how to do it."
Be polite and they will do it. I called last Saturday. Both reps knew how to do it, both were very courteous and even insisted to stay on the phone until the whole process is completed althogh it was not needed.
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Make sure you talk to advanced technical support and use the first rep that picks up the phone just to get transferred further.
If advaced tech says it comes in batches - tell him "I understand this is normal process, however according to my extensive research there is an issue with this particular phone getting update automatically. My friend had the update pushed by advanced technical support last week. Please ask arround how to do it."
Be polite and they will do it. I called last Saturday. Both reps knew how to do it, both were very courteous and even insisted to stay on the phone until the whole process is completed althogh it was not needed.
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Hmm perhaps I will give that a try. Honestly, I am okay with waiting for the update but the real issue is how long will I have to wait? A few days is fine but weeks....that isn't worth it. When a get a few more free moments I will try again. Hopefully this time I can get someone to push it out to me. I did get to advanced tech support and the guys were super courteous; they just insisted on me waiting.
Thanks for the help!
I finally got a tech to push the update after convincing him to do a google search for H95011z. Update started and then failed, when it booted the notification was that it failed because root detection was triggered. This is after I used the tool to bring my phone back to stock and downloading a root checker app that showed I do not have it. Sigh, back to square one.
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Hi, I just wanted to give everyone some information to updating to 5.1.1 as many of you are probably buying these due to the recent sales. If you don't want to root but wanted the 5.1.1 update through AT&T, here is the guide. You could also try rolling the date method but it did not work for me. I actually bought a bunch of these phones for friends and family, and I've updated five of them to 5.1.1 through AT&T OTA update, and this method is very time efficient
Side note: if you have more than one G Flex2 that you are looking to update, you can update them all using just one sim and swapping them between phones.
Before you begin, do a factory reset under settings if you've already pressed software update and tried rolling the date a few times to get the update. Afterward, do not press software update until you are sure that the AT&T person has pushed the update.
Here are my steps (probably takes around 30 minutes):
1. Register for the gophone plan with the AT&T sim card and put the minimum $10 credit into the plan. For the IMEI, put all zeroes in. This will allow you to select the $2 monthly plan, which you ultimately won't be selecting but instead will select the $1 100mb daily package after your account and sim have been activated.
2. Turn the phone on with your newly activated gophone sim. TURN ON WIFI and keep it on WIFI until your update is downloaded, installed, and finished.
3. Directly call the gophone support line: 800.901.9878, and voice navigate your way to technical support (it's an automated system).
4. When the person picks up on customer service, ask them to put you through to advanced technical support, and if they ask what the call is for, tell them that you were disconnected while talking with an advanced technical support line as this will get you where you need to faster.
5. Ask the person on advanced technical support to push an update to your phone, and tell them that you've tried manually updating through the software update on your phone under settings numerous times. If they insist that they cannot push updates and you have to do it yourself on your phone, tell them that your friend has a G Flex2 with a gophone plan, and he/she was able to get the update pushed with a call to advanced technical support. If you think that the support person is being stubborn and not even attempting to try it, just hang up and try again.
6. Help the support person find the update that you are looking for by telling them the update is called H95011x. DO NOT get the H95011z beforehand, as it will not help you. Ask explicitly for the H95011x update. You can also read some more information from this page, which is the link to the page with the update information (edit: cannot post the link since I'm a newbie... Alternatively, you can find the software info page it if you type H95011x on google and look for the link to the site att.com)
7. Keep asking them to push update from their side, and you will know that they've pushed it when you go to the software update under settings on your phone and it says something different now. Instead of "look for update software" or something similar, it will now say, "continue with software update". When you press it, a notification will appear, saying "communication in progress". Tap on the button a few times to make sure that it keeps saying "communication in progress".
8. When you see "communication in progress", just leave the phone alone for the next hour or two, as the phone is downloading the update file without showing you any sort of progress bar. Keep the phone connected to wifi.
9. Come back and a notification will prompt you to install update and the phone will restart.
Hope this helps! I know that getting the AT&T OTA update can be a pain and I wished that I had some guide to follow when I was first trying to get the update.
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Please add a note to unroot/not be rooted before starting this process. If the phone is rooted it will not update from the OTA download
Also note that the system restore might not strip all artifacts from rooting.
mtweisenbarger777 said:
Hmm perhaps I will give that a try. Honestly, I am okay with waiting for the update but the real issue is how long will I have to wait? A few days is fine but weeks....that isn't worth it. When a get a few more free moments I will try again. Hopefully this time I can get someone to push it out to me. I did get to advanced tech support and the guys were super courteous; they just insisted on me waiting.
Thanks for the help!
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FYI I posted this in another thread. It doesn't help you get to 5.1.1 but it might help you go from x variant to z.
Finally got a tech to do the push but the push failed because it detected ROOT even though I had done the system restore along with verified with root checker saying no root installed.
At that point I gave up because my only option was a factory flash. On a whim I decided to run the backup/restore tool with the 11z .img file knowing I had nothing to lose. From what I can tell so far, it worked fine and I'm now running 11z. I ran the stagefright detector and now my device only shows one vulnerability instead of several.
I will now start tearing it apart with root and etc, if it craps out I'll let everyone know.
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FYI I posted this in another thread. It doesn't help you get to 5.1.1 but it might help you go from x variant to z.
Finally got a tech to do the push but the push failed because it detected ROOT even though I had done the system restore along with verified with root checker saying no root installed.
At that point I gave up because my only option was a factory flash. On a whim I decided to run the backup/restore tool with the 11z .img file knowing I had nothing to lose. From what I can tell so far, it worked fine and I'm now running 11z. I ran the stagefright detector and now my device only shows one vulnerability instead of several.
I will now start tearing it apart with root and etc, if it craps out I'll let everyone know.
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I finally decided that waiting for ATT to push out an update that likely wasn't going to come anytime soon wasn't worth it and flashed the H950PR rom. It was super simple, very quick and went through without a hitch. It runs WAY faster than the 5.0.1 rom from ATT and no bloatware....gotta love that. The only thing that doesn't work is the LG Smart World app cause it detects me being in another country (even though I'm in the US) but there is a web interface that works just the same so no big deal. I have fully working LTE and my battery life is superb.
Thanks for all your help and your in depth guide. I (and other I'm sure) very much appreciate your efforts.
Congrats! I am jealous, I had updated my phone to 5.1.1 before the PR option was discovered.
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Congrats! I am jealous, I had updated my phone to 5.1.1 before the PR option was discovered.
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Ah yeah that is a bummer. I've read that people trying to go from the ATT to the PR version have bricked their phone. Oh well, here's hoping for Android 6 soon!!
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Congrats! I am jealous, I had updated my phone to 5.1.1 before the PR option was discovered.
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So what exactly is better in PR version versus ATT OTA with all ATT bloatware disabled?
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So what exactly is better in PR version versus ATT OTA with all ATT bloatware disabled?
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Well since I never had the ATT one, I cannot say exactly. But judging from the 5.0.1 that the phone came with, it doesn't get nearly as hot, the battery life is quite a bit better (used to get about 3-4 hours of SOT, now its 5-6), standby battery is CRAZY good, its runs generally faster, plus the update came straight from LG so when they release another update it will come straight from them making it easy to update. The same update method should work. The only thing I truly miss is the Glance from the lock screen. It still works, but it used to have a lit background image; now it doesn't have that. Its just the normal material color background. Nothing huge, just a very very minor cosmetic thing.
mtweisenbarger777 said:
Well since I never had the ATT one, I cannot say exactly. But judging from the 5.0.1 that the phone came with, it doesn't get nearly as hot, the battery life is quite a bit better (used to get about 3-4 hours of SOT, now its 5-6), standby battery is CRAZY good, its runs generally faster, plus the update came straight from LG so when they release another update it will come straight from them making it easy to update. The same update method should work. The only thing I truly miss is the Glance from the lock screen. It still works, but it used to have a lit background image; now it doesn't have that. Its just the normal material color background. Nothing huge, just a very very minor cosmetic thing.
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ATT OTA 5.1.1 does the same.
On the other note, I do not understand how are you planning to get update directly from LG. My understanding is that you will have to wait for that small PR cell company to release another update and somebody to come up with a way to apply it. I have more faith in ATT, then into a small PR cell company in regard to supporting this phone with future updates
Is anyone else still waiting for the December update to be available for OTA download? Google Pixel 3, unlocked, not rooted, not happy. Never waited this long before.
Is it a Verizon phone? Verizon updates are supposed to roll out this week. The update for non-Verizon phones was available last Monday.
I don't get OTA updates on my rooted phone because of root. I don't know if just being unlocked prevents OTA. You can always download the factory image and manually update. The images are at https://developers.google.com/android/images.
Thank you forI use Verizon, but it's not a Verizon phone. My updates come from Google, and always on the second or third day. This length of time is unique.
Fat fingers! 1st sentence intended to be "Thank you for the response".
BlackKeys said:
Thank you forI use Verizon, but it's not a Verizon phone. My updates come from Google, and always on the second or third day. This length of time is unique.
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In that case, you will have to apply the update manually. The factory image is at the URL I gave previously. Edit flash-all.bat/sh to remove the -w from the last line in the file so the phone is not wiped.
You could also apply just the OTA manually. The OTA images are at https://developers.google.com/android/ota. I have not done that - I use the factory image method.
Thank you for your response. While manually installing this, or any other update is always an option, I was more concerned with why an alternative should have been needed at all. Nothing on my phone has been changed and previous monthly updates have always been available in a timely manner. I had also hoped to hear from others whether this problem was widespread.
My phone received the December update an hour ago, so my "problem" has disappeared. My concern has not. I would still like to know what changed, but cannot justify continuing this thread. Thank you for your suggestions.
I may need more help marking this thread "resolved".
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Thank you for your response. While manually installing this, or any other update is always an option, I was more concerned with why an alternative should have been needed at all. Nothing on my phone has been changed and previous monthly updates have always been available in a timely manner. I had also hoped to hear from others whether this problem was widespread.
My phone received the December update an hour ago, so my "problem" has disappeared. My concern has not. I would still like to know what changed, but cannot justify continuing this thread. Thank you for your suggestions.
I may need more help marking this thread "resolved".
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You can search for update errors in logcat. See https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tutorial-how-to-logcat.1726238/ on how to get a logcat. If you did the manual "Check for update" look in the log at the time you did the check. Logs are kept for quite a while, so the info should still be available.
I am having a major brain block. I have a google store pixel 3 unlocked rooted. I am on Verizon, do I download the Verizon or non-verizon update. Thanks in advance, like i said, my brain is literally broken on this
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I am having a major brain block. I have a google store pixel 3 unlocked rooted. I am on Verizon, do I download the Verizon or non-verizon update. Thanks in advance, like i said, my brain is literally broken on this
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I also have a google store pixel, but with a Verizon SIM. I had the same question, but finally decided on the non-verizon update. I believe the Verizon update is only for Verizon branded phones, with the added Verizon software. I have no Verizon software.
I have had no problems with the non-verizon update.
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I am having a major brain block. I have a google store pixel 3 unlocked rooted. I am on Verizon, do I download the Verizon or non-verizon update. Thanks in advance, like i said, my brain is literally broken on this
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dcarvil said:
I also have a google store pixel, but with a Verizon SIM. I had the same question, but finally decided on the non-verizon update. I believe the Verizon update is only for Verizon branded phones, with the added Verizon software. I have no Verizon software.
I have had no problems with the non-verizon update.
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Sorry, I didn't see this sooner. You take the Verizon update if you are on Verizon. They contain different radio/network code for Verizon. It won't add bloat and it won't lock your bootloader.
This has always happened on the Pixels. A carrier will get a separate update for a month or two before the changes are merged into the same path and there is only one again. Been happening since the OG Pixel.
I doubt you will have any major problems using the other one. Maybe you won't get as strong a signal, or switch towers quite as fast as the VZ version. It will be something minor like that.
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Sorry, I didn't see this sooner. You take the Verizon update if you are on Verizon. They contain different radio/network code for Verizon. It won't add bloat and it won't lock your bootloader.
This has always happened on the Pixels. A carrier will get a separate update for a month or two before the changes are merged into the same path and there is only one again. Been happening since the OG Pixel.
I doubt you will have any major problems using the other one. Maybe you won't get as strong a signal, or switch towers quite as fast as the VZ version. It will be something minor like that.
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Thanks for the info. I installed the January Verizon update today, and now I have a new Verizon app on my phone - com.verizon.obdm_permissions. Do you have any idea what that is for, and if it is necessary? I've disabled it for now.
I do not have the com.verizon.obdm app installed, so don't know why I'd need the permissions app.
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Thanks for the info. I installed the January Verizon update today, and now I have a new Verizon app on my phone - com.verizon.obdm_permissions. Do you have any idea what that is for, and if it is necessary? I've disabled it for now.
I do not have the com.verizon.obdm app installed, so don't know why I'd need the permissions app.
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That has always been there, very sure of that. A lot of us went done that rabbit hole with the Pixel 1 or 2. We never new for sure what it did, but I remember freezing it and had all kinds of connection problems.
Other carriers have those types of things too. They are built into the image and go live when the phone sees what carrier it is on.