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(Background: non-VZW Pixel, running Android 8.0.0 on Verizon, unlocked, rooted, SuperSU, AdAway, Titanium Backup etc. Otherwise stock ROM and it's never asked me if I wanted an update. All the changes I made, I made when I first got the phone almost 2 years ago and the system has been stable since then.)
OK, I don't get *at all* why this happened. Today I got my phone out and it was *finishing* an update (despite not saying anything about an update when I had the phone out several times over the hours leading up to that -- and data is slow where I live because the cell service is marginal). Phone was generally acting funny about hotspot and data, even by the somewhat iffy standard it normally sets here. Rebooted it, and -- oh, we're in 8.1?? Interface is noticeably different in little ways (so, I'm not misremembering the 8.0 part). I also lost root, so there was definitely a major change with the OS. Bootloader is still unlocked.
First off, how did this happen? I'm positive that I never said yes to an update. I'm also positive that I was rooted and bootloader unlocked (since, again, AdAway and Titanium Backup wouldn't have worked if I weren't). Bootloader is still unlocked, but I definitely am not rooted anymore, checked with SuperSU, and also Titanium Backup doesn't work anymore.
Second, why did this not bootloop the phone? I know accepting an update with unlocked bootloader and rooted is asking for trouble.
Third, is there any reasonably straightforward way to downgrade? I liked 8.0, I don't like the Google search bar that 8.1 wants to put at the bottom of the screen, and I'd like to go back to what I'm used to.
Thanks in advance!
i dont get *at all* why you talk *like this* here -- whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
also you probably have automatic updates enabled, what i dont understand is why you would be using supersu in ****ing october 2019, that **** died years ago and has been generally recommended to avoid.
sudoxd said:
i dont get *at all* why you talk *like this* here -- whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
also you probably have automatic updates enabled, what i dont understand is why you would be using supersu in ****ing october 2019, that **** died years ago and has been generally recommended to avoid.
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Sorry my setup did not meet with your approval. It worked very well for almost 2 years, and during that time never attempted to do an automatic update. That's why I was so baffled: why, after 2 years of no auto-updates, did it insist on doing one now? (I was so surprised that I even got out some extra asterisks and asked *why*?
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Sorry my setup did not meet with your approval. It worked very well for almost 2 years, and during that time never attempted to do an automatic update. That's why I was so baffled: why, after 2 years of no auto-updates, did it insist on doing one now? (I was so surprised that I even got out some extra asterisks and asked *why*?
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1. use magisk, supersu got bought out by some chinese company a while back and probably contains some really fishy ****. it also leaves a mess on your phone if you ever need to remove it. you can also pass safteynet with magisk.
2. if automatic updates isnt disabled in developer options, it is very possible that is what had happened.
I just received 2 SM-970U1 version Note 10's (BNIB) and banging my head against a wall trying to get these to work properly.
Issue 1 I had with both phones as soon as I started the setup process both phones started throwing errors with app related issues (Google music, Samsung pay, some others) and just looping and looping when trying to finalize setup. Eventually with enough reboots you can get it to finish setup. This was done with T-mobile SIM cards inserted. That unfortunately isn't the end of the crashing and looping of something went wrong, try again. Even if I force stop any apps out pops up and uninstall, or attempt to uninstall it still just errors to the point that the only way to actually get into the phone is force a reboot or I've found if I pull down the drop down menu I can then get into settings. Has anyone experienced this and WTF do I do about it?
Issue 2 this may be a knowledge issue though I thought I had an understanding of unlocked phones. Initial version of Android was 9 security update at I think it was October or November 2019. It installed updates until Android 10 April 2020 and then said that's it no more updates available. And this it where I might be wrong but I thought the unlocked part just meant the phone wasn't tied to a specific carrier but was entitled to all updates available for that model from the carrier being used. If I'm incorrect on that then how the hell does a flagship phone only get 7 months of updates from its release date?!? And where did those initial updates come from? Do I have to manually, with Odin, install any updates that are available?!?
3 After factory resetting 1 of the Note 10's and going through setup without a SIM card it appears to be working without crashing, even with my SIM it seems to be working but again no updates beyond April 2020. Why would a fresh from the box phone not work but factory resetting to what I thought was the exact same configuration work?
Anyone?
Hi Everyone - Sorry in advance that I have ridiculous beginner questions, but I just moved to China AND I just bought my first OnePlus Friday. I'm coming from a Pixel 4a5G and couple pixels before that. I haven't rooted or tweaked in many years since my Galaxy Siii with CyanogenMod. As you're about to see, I have no idea what I'm doing...
My phone: OnePlus 9 LE2110 (China) running ColorOS 11.2 (LE2110_11_A.01)
Carrier: China Mobile (also have Google Fi and will probably dual sim)
Current Location: China (but travel to US, UAE and will use Google Fi there)
I just want stability, Google Apps and for all my 4G/5G service whether I am in China or in the US. I'm fine keeping ColorOS or switching to OxygenOS. Because I value stability, I am hoping to not root or do things that might jeopardize that too much.
I've been able to sideload some apps, but I don't find that to be sustainable. I've installed the Play Store and it says it is certified, but nothing will download. An app will look like it tries to download, but gets stuck at "pending." I do have ExpressV*N running and have no issues getting gmail or the other couple Google apps working. I'm running Play 25.5.27-21
Am I able to get the Play store running and apps updating on ColorOS in China? If so, any ideas what I've done wrong?
If not, do I need to do anything besides what mlgmxyysd (amazing by the way!!) listed on the downgrade post to downgrade and install OxygenOS? I saw some people having issues with IMEIs. Looks like the latest update solved it, but I have no idea if I need to do something different.
Does the downgrade here use the Indian build? If so, should I stick with that or try to upgrade eventually to the US build? Is that even possible?
My dumbest question of all: do I download the ColorOS downgrade file if I am switching from ColorOS to OxygenOS?
I promise I have done 8-10 hours of research to try and answer my own questions. It might not seem like it and I'm sure I've overlooked very obvious information, but it's because I'm dumb, not lazy.
If you've made it this far: thanks for reading and for any insight you might have.
If you want stability, then you might want to change to oxygenOS. Most of the users here are using oxygenOS. And I haven't encountered any bugs as of yet on my oneplus 9. This will most likely solve your issue on google.
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If you want stability, then you might want to change to oxygenOS. Most of the users here are using oxygenOS. And I haven't encountered any bugs as of yet on my oneplus 9. This will most likely solve your issue on google.
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Thanks. I finally bit the bullet and converted. No real issues except for one error that has gone away (or been hidden and doesn't matter). I still have my 5g connection which I was concerned about (I average 200 Mbps on speed test) and was able to sync with my Google account so I have Play and all my old apps.
I've gotten an OTA update for 11.2.7.7.LE25DA and I'm nervous to ruin a good thing so I haven't installed it yet. I'm also only running my China Mobile sim. I haven't added my Fi SIM to it yet, also for fear of breaking something.
Either way, this really changed my life. Thanks for your final push and for the OP of the ColorOS to OxygenOS conversion.
if rooted use magisk hide like in screenshot I make my pixel 5 change fingerprint to anything and then it should work if not do the device id and maker mine showed
obviously oxygen os is the better choice ,coloros has too many ads. And you don't have to download the degraded file between o os and color os.
Thanks, everyone. Shortly after I posted this and got a little feedback I switched to Oxygen OS. It was a game changer. I don't care so much about Color OS vs. Oxygen OS (I see some merits in both), but this is much closer to my old Pixel feel and more importantly, I have easy access to Play store.
I got the phone just over a month ago and it's on build 11.2.4.4.LE25AA and rooted. The phone, and Google, keep wanting me to update but when I press Download and Install, it downloads 11.2.10.10.LE25AAA but then says "Installation problem." Do I need to unroot it first? I have never had to do this with any other OP phone.
When I first got it I installed android 12 and tried to root using, I assume, a method or image which only worked for 11 and bricked it. Got it restored and back to 11, since I would rather have a rooted phone on 11 than a non-rooted one on 12. Since restoring it was such a pita, I don't want to make the mistake again.
BTW, for anyone using android 12 - Can you disable swiping from the sides of the bottom to activate google assistant? I think google or oneplus promised that in 12. I absolutely hate swiping from the sides of the phone to go back in gesture navigation and want the old method back (which can be done with third party apps if I deactivate the stupid google bottom swipe.) If I can't get this ability, I don't care if I ever update to 12.
I hear ya, this is the most frustrating thing ever. I had a fully OEM phone, until one morning in January, I got an offer to update to 12. The update completely ruined my phone, made it unusable for work. I waited, patiently, until Saturday morning, literally 2.5 months later, when I finally got offered an update. Well, the update didn't fix the issue and in fact, made problems worse. Now my camera didn't work. Desperate, I tried going back to 11, using the insanity of instructions/tutorials on this web site, and ended up with a bricked the phone. After two full days, I've got a working phone again, running OS 11. However, now I cannot receive any updates, without them failing at 25%. I really don't have any solutions for you. OnePlus is straight garbage now. Android is straight garbage. By the time this is over, I might be back in Apple's walled garden. At least over there they make beautiful brick walls that you don't get to escape.
I got mine rooted to A12 without any issues. Unfortunate you guys having issues. I actually like the feature to swipe from the bottom corner to activate Google Assistance but not sure where to turn that off. The AOSP rom I got on my OP 5 has an option to enable/disable this feature. Can't find it on OSS 12 though.
Just as the subject mentions. Curious if it's just me?
Nada. No update. And when I mentioned this on their forum, they deleted the post.
I even tried the thing where you remove the SIM and search for updates then. Didn't make any difference.
Searching with Sammoblie and Frija, only the carrier version(A536U) from Xfinity/Comcast has gotten it in the US.
I don't have it either, what bothers me most is that 13 was released for older A phones including lower priced models already. Is it possible that because this is an enterprise phone (at least in the USA) it requires more time for testing?
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I don't have it either, what bothers me most is that 13 was released for older A phones including lower priced models already. Is it possible that because this is an enterprise phone (at least in the USA) it requires more time for testing?
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What bothers me was how quickly Samsung deleted my post on their forum after I asked about this.
It's been like 6 weeks since the same phone in other countries was given this. It's quite annoying.
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What bothers me was how quickly Samsung deleted my post on their forum after I asked about this.
It's been like 6 weeks since the same phone in other countries was given this. It's quite annoying.
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Samsung's discussions has a sticky at the top that updates happen whenever (edit: or at least it did before). And that's definitely how it goes for all their devices.
Even Samsung flagships go through silly stuff for updates and Android versions so its not A53 only.
The A53 unlocked has carrier apps on it so its tied to the carrier testing. Why will US carriers release Android 13 for older devices before newer? No idea but that's how their testing is going. They have some reason.
Really, you will get it when you get it. If you just think it won't show up until the year 2721 then it should be easier for you lol.
Its frustrating I know for unlocked to be dependent on carriers. But, waiting, it will at least probably have less bugs so that's fine enough. A buggy device isn't fun at all.
edit: Also A52 appear to be doing better than the A53 in getting Android 13 and listed as Enterprise. So, I don't think Enterprise has anything to do with it.
edit: The end result appears to be what Samsung's sticky said which is updates happen when they happen.
Samsung promised 4 years of updates for this phone so they have about 3 more years to give us android 13.
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Just as the subject mentions. Curious if it's just me?
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3 Days ago, my phone suddenly shut itself off, and then stuck itself in a bootloop and would not boot again. It's a Samsung A53 5G (ATT&T) running android 12 one UI version 4.1 at the time. After booting into safe mode and wiping application config data, it still would not come out of safe mode until I factory reset it and connected it to a wifi network.
Finally after all of this BS, I got it to boot normally, but then, as if by magic, my phone was running Android 13 UI Version 5.0!
WTF!?
So I spent an entire day recovering my bank accounts, cashapp, applications, and various accounts, and chalked this pain in the ass up to the game...
And then this morning, it ****in' happened again.
I'm done with Samsung. This phone has been a $500 piece of **** since day 1. It's not even 3 months old yet. Samsung has gone from the most badass manufacturer of android devices, straight to the bottom of the abyss in terms of quality.
The Bloatware they send with these devices now should be unlawful. The amount of YOUR resources they use to track every single thing you do, every place you go, every dollar you spend is unfathomably creepy and discomforting.
Do yourself a favor and get comfortable with 12. because 13 is an even bigger piece of ****, and in my case, it has totally wrecked my phone twice in 3 days now.
Do yourself an even bigger favor, and throw your samsung into the bottom of the ocean and go buy yourself an IPhone. I'm really sad about the way Samsung has turned out. I'm even more sad about the way Android has gone down the drain. And Google has turned into the world's most powerful creepy stalker with Facebook a close 2nd.
I think if people actually new just how intrusive these tech companies have become, they'd stop using them altogether. There needs to be new and better privacy regulations and trackers and spywares and metadata miners and these 'ad targeting' programs and applications should be illegal.
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3 Days ago, my phone suddenly shut itself off, and then stuck itself in a bootloop and would not boot again. It's a Samsung A53 5G (ATT&T) running android 12 one UI version 4.1 at the time. After booting into safe mode and wiping application config data, it still would not come out of safe mode until I factory reset it and connected it to a wifi network.
Finally after all of this BS, I got it to boot normally, but then, as if by magic, my phone was running Android 13 UI Version 5.0!
WTF!?
So I spent an entire day recovering my bank accounts, cashapp, applications, and various accounts, and chalked this pain in the ass up to the game...
And then this morning, it ****in' happened again.
I'm done with Samsung. This phone has been a $500 piece of **** since day 1. It's not even 3 months old yet. Samsung has gone from the most badass manufacturer of android devices, straight to the bottom of the abyss in terms of quality.
The Bloatware they send with these devices now should be unlawful. The amount of YOUR resources they use to track every single thing you do, every place you go, every dollar you spend is unfathomably creepy and discomforting.
Do yourself a favor and get comfortable with 12. because 13 is an even bigger piece of ****, and in my case, it has totally wrecked my phone twice in 3 days now.
Do yourself an even bigger favor, and throw your samsung into the bottom of the ocean and go buy yourself an IPhone. I'm really sad about the way Samsung has turned out. I'm even more sad about the way Android has gone down the drain. And Google has turned into the world's most powerful creepy stalker with Facebook a close 2nd.
I think if people actually new just how intrusive these tech companies have become, they'd stop using them altogether. There needs to be new and better privacy regulations and trackers and spywares and metadata miners and these 'ad targeting' programs and applications should be illegal.
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That's not the experience of most people. Since you bring up Apple as if that will help you avoid this when it can happen there too: https://myphotoyear.com/ios-16-update-goes-wrong/
Its just a fact of life.
More or less it could be improved or solved by multi-OS versions at the same time (such as dual boot on a computer), slower major OS versions, etc. This is not how Google or Apple thinks though.
To add, you can of course improve loss of data by using system backup and also backing up your stuff separately. Though Android still isn't perfect there.
Of course, if you see an update, avoiding updating for some months might also help though not ideal.
edit: For instance you could have used the Samsung restore which may be presented on first use setup or even manually done in Settings > Accounts and Backups > Restore which will restore much if you used the online backup or backup to sd card. Some apps and data will be missing if apps don't support it, etc. Unfortunately, it seems to only offer one backup at least online so any backup on the account since might have destroyed it.
edit: using that and backing up to sd card includes 10GB of stuff on my phone whereas the online is suggested as 2GB (it backs up files and also eg debug built from source apps). So, if you want the best, it may be what you should do from now on. Then restore it if need be. Still, up to apps to support backup individually. Make sure to run it weekly or something.
Also, I know you're pissed about that. Try not to be pissed with me lol. Thanks.
I'm thinking we're in for weeks, or months, more wait. We haven't even gotten a January Security Update.
Just received the Android 13 (One UI 5.0) update last night on my unlocked phone. Also includes the Jan 2023 security update. Looks like they just made the January cutoff
Hmm I have unlocked a53 on t mobile, I checked for updates today and it said there were none.
I received the update today for Android 13 including dual sim support.
I been checking my A53 unlocked running on Visible every week since Christmas for an update. Today it found the Android 13 UI 5.0 update. downloading it now.
How is the new version? any bugs found?
ok, once my phone updated and rebooted now I am no longer connecting to 5G. I've rebooted a few times and nothing has changed. I'm stuck back on 4G.
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Just received the Android 13 (One UI 5.0) update last night on my unlocked phone. Also includes the Jan 2023 security update. Looks like they just made the January cutoff
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5 days after your post (6 since you got the update), with daily checking, and it's still a No for me.
My A53 arrived this morning and upon turning it on, my device had a lot of firmware updates waiting for me. I just updated to Android 13 not too ago along with January's Security patch.
I happen to live in the US, use T-Mobile, and I'm using the international version with dual SIM support.
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5 days after your post (6 since you got the update), with daily checking, and it's still a No for me.
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Another 3 days...
Still no Android 13 update.
I may wind up going to the Samsung service location in my area. This is ridiculous.
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Another 3 days...
Still no Android 13 update.
I may wind up going to the Samsung service location in my area. This is ridiculous.
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They do rollouts on top of things.
You could of course use a sim from a different carrier that has the upgrade available and do it that way. Might just get it immediately or still not. Then switch back. That is a possible workaround.
Of course, if you see a signed image for download for Android 13 for your carrier. That might work too even though it still is a wait for it to show up that way.
I don't know if there's any other way here because of the CSC. It would be interesting to know if a Samsung service shop would do it for you. I can't imagine they would.
Received the update today. Seems to run faster.