Rooted Pixel on 8.0 updated today to 8.1, whaaaa? - Google Pixel Questions & Answers

(Background: non-VZW Pixel, running Android 8.0.0 on Verizon, unlocked, rooted, SuperSU, AdAway, Titanium Backup etc. Otherwise stock ROM and it's never asked me if I wanted an update. All the changes I made, I made when I first got the phone almost 2 years ago and the system has been stable since then.)
OK, I don't get *at all* why this happened. Today I got my phone out and it was *finishing* an update (despite not saying anything about an update when I had the phone out several times over the hours leading up to that -- and data is slow where I live because the cell service is marginal). Phone was generally acting funny about hotspot and data, even by the somewhat iffy standard it normally sets here. Rebooted it, and -- oh, we're in 8.1?? Interface is noticeably different in little ways (so, I'm not misremembering the 8.0 part). I also lost root, so there was definitely a major change with the OS. Bootloader is still unlocked.
First off, how did this happen? I'm positive that I never said yes to an update. I'm also positive that I was rooted and bootloader unlocked (since, again, AdAway and Titanium Backup wouldn't have worked if I weren't). Bootloader is still unlocked, but I definitely am not rooted anymore, checked with SuperSU, and also Titanium Backup doesn't work anymore.
Second, why did this not bootloop the phone? I know accepting an update with unlocked bootloader and rooted is asking for trouble.
Third, is there any reasonably straightforward way to downgrade? I liked 8.0, I don't like the Google search bar that 8.1 wants to put at the bottom of the screen, and I'd like to go back to what I'm used to.
Thanks in advance!

i dont get *at all* why you talk *like this* here -- whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
also you probably have automatic updates enabled, what i dont understand is why you would be using supersu in ****ing october 2019, that **** died years ago and has been generally recommended to avoid.

sudoxd said:
i dont get *at all* why you talk *like this* here -- whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
also you probably have automatic updates enabled, what i dont understand is why you would be using supersu in ****ing october 2019, that **** died years ago and has been generally recommended to avoid.
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Sorry my setup did not meet with your approval. It worked very well for almost 2 years, and during that time never attempted to do an automatic update. That's why I was so baffled: why, after 2 years of no auto-updates, did it insist on doing one now? (I was so surprised that I even got out some extra asterisks and asked *why*?

norwood7 said:
Sorry my setup did not meet with your approval. It worked very well for almost 2 years, and during that time never attempted to do an automatic update. That's why I was so baffled: why, after 2 years of no auto-updates, did it insist on doing one now? (I was so surprised that I even got out some extra asterisks and asked *why*?
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1. use magisk, supersu got bought out by some chinese company a while back and probably contains some really fishy ****. it also leaves a mess on your phone if you ever need to remove it. you can also pass safteynet with magisk.
2. if automatic updates isnt disabled in developer options, it is very possible that is what had happened.

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A note for T-Mobile Jump On Demand customers

After giving the V10 a month, I decided to swap it out (why is for another thread, I suppose). I had rooted and installed TWRP, so I used the stock files provided in the dev threads to go back to stock and relock the bootloader. I did a factory reset to make sure everything was working properly.
When I went to turn in the device, the guy at the store ran a phone code and got a code back from the network. Apparently, it does a check to make sure the device is the same one that I originally purchased and that it hasn't been rooted (in a Samsung phone's case, it checks Knox status as well). If it comes back as rooted or having ever been rooted, he said the system will deny the exchange. Mine passed (since thankfully LG's stuff can be completely reset), and I didn't volunteer that I had rooted it.
Just be aware that you need to go completely to stock in order to return the phone to swap out for a new one. I'll assume if your phone get's flagged in the system once, you can't ever return it, even if you try to flash back to stock again.
I love Jump on Demand, but I think it's going to keep me stuck unrooted for the most part - can't risk blowing $700.
Thanks for the heads up! With JUMP it shouldn't matter, but a device exchange may flag.
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I rooted my Note 4 and 5 with twrp aswell.... Did jump from both with no problem! My last jump was Nov. 15th for the V10 and the promo and had no problem, must be a new policy!!! But yes, always go back to stock before upgrade lol
That's good you passed the network check, I wonder how that works? When you rooted, did you freeze that weird pr.adapt app that kept requesting root access?
YrrchSebor said:
That's good you passed the network check, I wonder how that works? When you rooted, did you freeze that weird pr.adapt app that kept requesting root access?
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I did freeze it, but the T-mobile app (which I use to check my data usage) still saw that my device was rooted, even though I never gave that app root access. However, when I start the app, I told it I didn't want it to share any info with T-mobile, so it shouldn't have had permission to report my root status to T-mobile (and apparently it didn't).
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I did freeze it, but the T-mobile app (which I use to check my data usage) still saw that my device was rooted, even though I never gave that app root access. However, when I start the app, I told it I didn't want it to share any info with T-mobile, so it shouldn't have had permission to report my root status to T-mobile (and apparently it didn't).
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Ahh OK, I guess that could be an important point then! I always disallow sending the diagnostics and such in the my T-Mobile app... Thank god. Hopefully it'll be OK. Thanks for the heads up!
I just jumped from a Note 5 to the V10. I reset the Note 5 using Kies, but knox was still tripped. No issue at the store. The G4 that I jumped from to go to the Note 5 also had been rooted/bootloader unlock, no issue when I did that either.
That's weird. I called a store and asked them this exact question before turning in my G3. She said it didn't matter and they were gonna wipe the phone. It's possible she didn't understand the question, but I turned it in with no issues and haven't received any calls over the few days I've had the V10. I'm on the basis Jump plan too.
No issues trading in my Knox-tripped Note 4 a couples months ago. Maybe just that one store is getting a little wacky with the checking lol
Unheard said:
I just jumped from a Note 5 to the V10. I reset the Note 5 using Kies, but knox was still tripped. No issue at the store. The G4 that I jumped from to go to the Note 5 also had been rooted/bootloader unlock, no issue when I did that either.
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Just curious how you like the V10 vs. the Note 5? I kinda like the V10 hardware, but it seems there will be very little development done on this phone (I'm dying for CM in particular). Doesn't seem as popular as I had hoped it would be with the dev community. I'm considering the Note 5 as a JoD exchange (and thanks to OP for the heads up here), since there seems to be a lot of dev activity for it. Just don't know if I'll be able to deal with that hardware home button. Guess I'm picky.
I can't tell the number of rooted phones I've sent back to Verizon and T-mobile, never a word.
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YrrchSebor said:
Ahh OK, I guess that could be an important point then! I always disallow sending the diagnostics and such in the my T-Mobile app... Thank god. Hopefully it'll be OK. Thanks for the heads up!
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Okay you could also block it with root cloak...
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Been on Verizon, Alltel, Sprint, and Ma'Bell. always rooted, never had e Problem. Just make shure you return to stock. I even exchanged a couple of Samsungs with Knox trip, Lucky I guess. I've heard Stories but never met anyone that has been returned or charged a device.
spg900ny said:
Just curious how you like the V10 vs. the Note 5? I kinda like the V10 hardware, but it seems there will be very little development done on this phone (I'm dying for CM in particular). Doesn't seem as popular as I had hoped it would be with the dev community. I'm considering the Note 5 as a JoD exchange (and thanks to OP for the heads up here), since there seems to be a lot of dev activity for it. Just don't know if I'll be able to deal with that hardware home button. Guess I'm picky.
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Currently have the Note 5. I wouldn't say there is a lot of dev activity. Then again, I came from a Nexus 6. [emoji2]
I can tell you that this policy was implemented just a few weeks ago. I work for T-Mobile (Corporate Store) and every time you take a phone for Jump, Jump 2 or Jump on demand; the system is asking for a code (it doesn't matter if its android or ios) that the phone displays (usually a 3-4 characters) when you enter a "##" code. Then we enter it on the system and we either get a "thumbs up" or a "denied". I haven't seen a denial at my store, but when I saw this policy, the first thing that I thought was that it was looking for a modified system.
Cool, so no more Jump for me. Looks like a steady stream of Priv's, 950XL's, Moto's, or Nexuses.
xxdjvalexx said:
I can tell you that this policy was implemented just a few weeks ago. I work for T-Mobile (Corporate Store) and every time you take a phone for Jump, Jump 2 or Jump on demand; the system is asking for a code (it doesn't matter if its android or ios) that the phone displays (usually a 3-4 characters) when you enter a "##" code. Then we enter it on the system and we either get a "thumbs up" or a "denied". I haven't seen a denial at my store, but when I saw this policy, the first thing that I thought was that it was looking for a modified system.
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I just got the V10 and traded in my rooted and ROM'd Galaxy S6 for it. She did the code thing, didn't bat an eye.
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xxdjvalexx said:
I can tell you that this policy was implemented just a few weeks ago. I work for T-Mobile (Corporate Store) and every time you take a phone for Jump, Jump 2 or Jump on demand; the system is asking for a code (it doesn't matter if its android or ios) that the phone displays (usually a 3-4 characters) when you enter a "##" code. Then we enter it on the system and we either get a "thumbs up" or a "denied". I haven't seen a denial at my store, but when I saw this policy, the first thing that I thought was that it was looking for a modified system.
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What ## code do you enter?
I would imagine that code is more of a quick IMEI/"is the phone stolen" verification rather than checking for root.
daveeckert said:
After giving the V10 a month, I decided to swap it out (why is for another thread, I suppose). I had rooted and installed TWRP, so I used the stock files provided in the dev threads to go back to stock and relock the bootloader. I did a factory reset to make sure everything was working properly.
When I went to turn in the device, the guy at the store ran a phone code and got a code back from the network. Apparently, it does a check to make sure the device is the same one that I originally purchased and that it hasn't been rooted (in a Samsung phone's case, it checks Knox status as well). If it comes back as rooted or having ever been rooted, he said the system will deny the exchange. Mine passed (since thankfully LG's stuff can be completely reset), and I didn't volunteer that I had rooted it.
Just be aware that you need to go completely to stock in order to return the phone to swap out for a new one. I'll assume if your phone get's flagged in the system once, you can't ever return it, even if you try to flash back to stock again.
I love Jump on Demand, but I think it's going to keep me stuck unrooted for the most part - can't risk blowing $700.
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No, he was pulling your leg. I turned in my note 4 with twrp and a custom rom in October and I had to do the same check, it's just a service code check to make sure it's the same one you bought from tmo, if it checked for root I would never be able to get a phone again because I flashed that phone so much. I talk to the guys at the store and told them I rooted do they.

Why my OTA updates installation is so slow?

Hello there, I tried to find an answer to this question but I was not able to!
Pixel XL, Project Fi everything is stock, not rooted and I didn't unlock the bootloader...
The first OTA update (the one with 60 mb) took like an hour to install (I thought that the device was stuck and I restarted it, but after reboot same thing, downloaded the file from scratch and took the same time!)
I got the 7.1.1 notification today, downloaded in no time, but installation took a lot of time!
Step 1 like an hour, and Step 2 still happening and didn't finish yet!! (more than an hour!)
I don't have any problem with the device, running smoothly (except this OTA thing)
Ideas?
Same here, installing the updates took a while. Plugging into power and using WiFi makes it faster but they still take a while.
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Same here, installing the updates took a while. Plugging into power and using WiFi makes it faster but they still take a while.
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so is it normal? the phone didn't finish Step 2 yet!
depending how many apps you have installed it can take a while... but you can use your phone normally....
this is the new feature that preloads your update to be ready for the next update... it eliminates the previous versions "android is upgrading" or "optimizing apps" that used to show up after updates
I'm not sure mine took an hour but I run a very lean set of apps it might have taken an hour from start to finish
Definitely intended to go slow. This is so you don't see any performance issues as you are able to use your phone normally.
Last update took my phone almost 2 hours to complete.
Updates are done differently than before. Remember before how after rebooting you'd have to wait forever for apps to prepare? All of that is now done in advance, kinda. Lots of changes but I think what you're seeing is due to the new way updates are installed. Overall it's a good change but the time delay is now before rebooting but at least the phone is very usable during this period.
That's great guys, thanks for sharing this! I didn't think it will take that much, but it took more than 2 hours!
What is the latest update version for Pixel phones?
7.1.1 with December 5 security updates
Charkatak said:
What is the latest update version for Pixel phones?
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7.1.1 (NMF26Q)
You don't have to wait for the OTA, just download it when a new version is available.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota#sailfish
Install via: adb sideload
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7.1.1 (NMF26Q)
You don't have to wait for the OTA, just download it when a new version is available.
https://developers.google.com/android/ota#sailfish
Install via: adb sideload
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Is this 7.1.1 (NMF26Q) build for US Pixel phones as well? I read somewhere that this update corrected some LTE issues for EU carrier.
Obviously lies
troy` said:
Definitely intended to go slow. This is so you don't see any performance issues as you are able to use your phone normally.
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Yes there is something wrong with your phone. Your phone is supposed to update only once with the latest, not go through sequential updates that take forever. If you bought this on eBay, or especially a Chinese seller, It probably has some irremovable malware on it. Do not accept people's answers on the internet as a solution. If it's behaving abnormally and you notice it is behaving abnormally, there IS something wrong with it regardless of what people are saying on the internet because they probably know about this malware but are trying to disguise your symptoms.
AndroidInitiate said:
Yes there is something wrong with your phone. Your phone is supposed to update only once with the latest, not go through sequential updates that take forever. If you bought this on eBay, or especially a Chinese seller, It probably has some irremovable malware on it. Do not accept people's answers on the internet as a solution. If it's behaving abnormally and you notice it is behaving abnormally, there IS something wrong with it regardless of what people are saying on the internet because they probably know about this malware but are trying to disguise your symptoms.
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Lol. Way to resurrect an old Post... You are delusional. This was the way they worked 2.5 years ago, and it's the way they still do things today. I've continued to use Pixel phones this whole time. 1, 2, and 3. All non XL models. Also, the Earth isn't flat.
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Lol. Way to resurrect an old Post... You are delusional. This was the way they worked 2.5 years ago, and it's the way they still do things today. I've continued to use Pixel phones this whole time. 1, 2, and 3. All non XL models. Also, the Earth isn't flat.
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This is because a malware used to run on android that had been reduced to the size of one pixel on the android screen, making it virtually undetectable to the human eye, hence the name, The Google Pixel. Regardless, it still performs poorly.

Should I Unlock my Bootloader?

I don't know how this'll go.......
So all my past android phones I have rooted + installed recoveries and what not. Originally I did this because I heard of a way to increase the battery life of my HTC Incredible via rooting. Afterwards I found myself rooting my Inc2, DNA, Inc4G, and my One M8. This time I did it so I can get the latest versions of Android/HTC Sense (until Google finally made a good looking UI w. 5.0).
Today (technically yesterday at this point) I bought the Pixel in hopes of finally being able to receive consistent android updates. That being said, the idea of being able to get consistent and relatively quick android updates was the whole point of me unlocking + rooting my phone.
I guess the question remains: Should I continue running unlocked with the Pixel, or will the updates from Google be enough?
dkris2020 said:
I guess the question remains: Should I continue running unlocked with the Pixel, or will the updates from Google be enough?
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I like custom recoveries like TWRP because you can make nandroid backups. The downside of unlocking your bootloader is that Android Pay won't work and if someone gets ahold of your phone, like a thief, if the phone is unlocked then they can flash it and it will circumvent any protection on the device.
I like root because you can use apps that require root, like some Ad blockers and Titanium Backup, and because I can remove system apps I don't want on my phone.
It all depends on what you want to do with your phone.
Unless someone has a reason for unlocking the device, generally I don't see the point. There are some things that I want to do with my phone, which are easier to do unlocked, so personally I specifically wanted an unlockable phone. Depending on how much you've read about the Pixel, here are some things you may or may not know.
- Unlocking the device will wipe it, so if you decide later that you want to unlock it will wipe the phone.
- An unlocked stock device can still use the standard OTA updates.
- Some SuperSU users may be able to unroot and then use the standard OTA updates, and some rooted users have reported their phones automatically updating.
- After I started using root my phone fails to install the OTA updates, so I'd guess one of the checked areas on my phone has changed due to the root apps I've used.
- If the OTA notification shows up and the update will not install, with the stock ROM it's possible to burn through a lot of cellular data. When I didn't update my phone this month, it used about 1 GB before I shut off cellular data.
- Items like a computer, TWRP, or FlashFire are the sorts of alternate update routes for the stock ROM if a rooted phone cannot use the standard OTA.
alluringreality said:
some rooted users have reported their phones automatically updating..
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Isn't there a way to disable the automatic updates?
LoliSmith said:
Isn't there a way to disable the automatic updates?
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You can disable them in developer options. I've had my phone since early November (turned off system updates the day I got it) and have never been notified that an update is available. However, some have reported that they had system updates disabled in developer options and they still get notified an update is available. It seems to be hit and miss so I can't say for sure it would work for you or not.
Just addressing OPs concerns, unlocking your phone shouldn't have any impact on updates from Google. You can still get them, OTA or otherwise.
The only downside I'd say, are warranty related (unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty on Verizon models), and security. Google has pretty much decided that having an unlocked bootloader is not secure enough for Android pay, so you'll be without that (However, you can still use loaded gift cards/loyalty program cards. It's just credit/debit cards that won't work).
robocuff said:
You can disable them in developer options. I've had my phone since early November (turned off system updates the day I got it) and have never been notified that an update is available. However, some have reported that they had system updates disabled in developer options and they still get notified an update is available. It seems to be hit and miss so I can't say for sure it would work for you or not.
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On my motorola phones, there was an app that you could freeze using titanium back up. I wonder if there is anything like that with the pixel?
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Soccerdude588 said:
The only downside I'd say, are warranty related (unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty on Verizon models),
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First, that assumes that Google has a record of you unlocking your bootloader, which they may since jcase is saying that the phones have to communicate with the Google servers to unlock the bootloader.
Second, there is a federal law on this and the way it works in this situation is that if unlocking your bootloader is not related to the warranty claim, Google can't deny your claim. For instance, if the charging port fails that is entirely a hardware issue unrelated to unlocking your bootloader. Google must honor the warranty for that.
If you were to brick your device flashing, that would be different but Google would have to have some proof that you not only unlocked your bootloader but that it was the unlocked bootloader that resulted in a bricked phone.
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I've had my phone since early November (turned off system updates the day I got it) and have never been notified that an update is available.
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Are you manually updating your device, or are you running months behind the current release? The reason I ask is that the OTA notices on my phone have been delayed my days or weeks from the initial release, but I think they have showed up eventually when I've stayed on a prior version and the developer option has been shut off.
LoliSmith said:
On my motorola phones, there was an app that you could freeze using titanium back up. I wonder if there is anything like that with the pixel?
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I was hoping the following link might work similar to the Razr updater, but unfortunately the change kept my phone awake and didn't allow deep sleep both times I tried it. The update notification can be shut off by long pressing it, which I think shows up as a notification block. Due to the cellular data drain, my current plan is to try FlashFire for updates, and if that doesn't work well I'll probably try a ROM to avoid OTA updates.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/
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Are you manually updating your device, or are you running months behind the current release? The reason I ask is that the OTA notices on my phone have been delayed my days or weeks from the initial release, but I think they have showed up eventually when I've stayed on a prior version and the developer option has been shut off.
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I've been manually updating it. Usually within a week or so of the release. However, I skipped the January update all together and never got a notification about it. Maybe I got lucky. Don't know.
Thanks for the input guys.
So a lot of the stuff you guys are saying are things that I have had prior experience with so the actual process of unlocking I have no issues with. If unlocking the Pixel is anything like the Moto X Pure (which it should cause Google) it shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
That said I am with Verizon and I can say that in all of my years of owning rooted/unlocked HTC phones I only ever needed to use my warranty for hardware based claims. Like I said the main reason I unlocked/rooted was to get updated ROMs that Verizon/HTC wouldn't push out to the phone. I think I'll more than likely unlock it but I probably won't root unless I need to.
That's pretty much where I am. I did root, but a recent OTA update that I accidentally took unrooted me. Keeping the bootloader unlocked at least leaves that option available.

Back To Stock On VS995 After A Couple Of Years Post-Dirty Santa - Couldn't Be Happier

I originally used the Dirty Santa routine on my Verizon VS995, so it remained on VS99513A for a couple of years. Had all manner of issues over time - apps "failing to respond", YouTube not displaying video but rather black screens, green-screen crashes, etc. Finally had enough and used the LGUP process to return to stock and unroot, of course. I probably (assuming, anyway) could have gone right to the latest Oreo firmware with LGUP, but decided to go to the stock version of VS99513A and then just do the many system updates to get current.
It's now happily sitting on Oreo, and knock on wood it's like having a new phone! It's so much smoother, YouTube is working, lol, battery life is an order of magnitude better and it's working like a phone should work. No one knows the future, of course, but today, I'm happy.
Just passing this along, but I've gone from being ready to trash this thing to being able to enjoy it again without worrying about having to dump some $$$ into something else.
I had originally rooted to get around the Verizon mobile-hotspot check, but I have an unlimited plan that includes it anyway, now, so that's no longer an issue.
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
Prowler_gr said:
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
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Blokada DNS changer. Also working without root. All problems gone. :good: for me the main reason for root is to prevent screen retention. The sucked soooo hart. If there would be an option without root I would also go with an unrooted stock fw.
Prowler_gr said:
Possible placebo effect...
A clean stock unrooted firmware may run smoother than a few custom roms, but not smoother than a rooted version of the exact same rom.
I wouldn't give up on root, even if the best ever unrootable phone was given to me for free (Ad-blocking being the primary reason)
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It's not even a close comparison in my case. Admittedly I'm on Oreo now and not the original Nougat the phone came with (and was rooted with), but it's literally a night and day difference. It wasn't just performance - it was extreme instability, apps that wouldn't work or would constantly go into "not responding" mode, green screens, battery life that was awful to the point where it nearly always needed to be connected to a charger, etc. I'd tap on an app or a function in an app before, and I'd literally have to wait and wait for something to happen at times.
Now? Lightning fast and smooth operation, stability where there was none before, etc. And, as stated, for what I really needed root before (bypassing vendor check for mobile hotspot), it's no longer an issue due to the phone plan I'm on.
I'm not knocking rooting, so don't misunderstand. But for my experience with this phone, going back to stock where I could actually update the version of the OS, as well, has made all the difference in the world for my user experience. YMMV.
Interesting... I haven't tried stock Oreo yet but in every time I flash a new stock rom the phone runs great for 6 months then starts lagging.
oooh meee TOOO! me! meeeee!
Heyitsrick said:
I originally used the Dirty Santa routine on my Verizon VS995, so it remained on VS99513A for a couple of years. Had all manner of issues over time - apps "failing to respond", YouTube not displaying video but rather black screens, green-screen crashes, etc. Finally had enough and used the LGUP process to return to stock and unroot, of course. I probably (assuming, anyway) could have gone right to the latest Oreo firmware with LGUP, but decided to go to the stock version of VS99513A and then just do the many system updates to get current.
It's now happily sitting on Oreo, and knock on wood it's like having a new phone! It's so much smoother, YouTube is working, lol, battery life is an order of magnitude better and it's working like a phone should work. No one knows the future, of course, but today, I'm happy.
Just passing this along, but I've gone from being ready to trash this thing to being able to enjoy it again without worrying about having to dump some $$$ into something else.
I had originally rooted to get around the Verizon mobile-hotspot check, but I have an unlimited plan that includes it anyway, now, so that's no longer an issue.
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Between the GIGANTIC pain in the ass that it was to root this phone (I have a VS995 rooted and on 13a ever since) and all the problems that rooting has caused I'd be ready to undo it all anyway. But due to some problem with internal storage* that started a couple weeks ago, I was fed-up and factory reset the phone. When it boots normally, a check in "about" shows the software status as "modified" but root checker says its not rooted, superSU can't find root (I installed it from play store).. Tried to update via the "system updates" in settings (could not get it to show developer options either).
* The storage issue: I have 50 gigs internal (or something similar) and I get a message that the storage is full and some apps may not work. Not possible, but I humored it and uninstalled everything, cleared cache, downloads cleared, etc ... still showing +/-1 gb free space avail. Factory reset, appears stock, but free space STILL less than 1 GB.
Regretted rooting this phone almost immediately since I still couldn't get rid of certain apps, I had to deal with the camera issues, etc... The only thing positive about it was that my work was unable to install their MDM crap (Mobile Iron shielding Gsuite etc). But anyway, it doesn't look like I'll be able to update the system - I tried it and now it boots to twrp, or boots regularly and then loops around to twrp again. I'm looking for the easiest way to get the phone working (with the persistent problem of internalstorage being full for no reason fixed) and at least reasonably updated. Don't care if it's rooted or not really.
Do you or does anyone have a link to a "play by play" for whatever might work? Its been too long since I rooted it for me to remember the nuances of the procedure so its safe to say that I don't really understand how Android works all that well, so instructions like, "flash xxx 3.2 then flash back to 2 then fastboot and load yer ROM but don't forget the dalvik blah blah" won't work... I'm looking for the idiot's version with hand-holding and everything.
Interesting analysis................ I mainly rooted my older phones due to the need for the mobile hotspot without paying VZ extra charges. However, now that I have the VS995, I was able to download and use the Foxfi app (I paid for the Pro upgrade license) so this left me thinking, do I really need to root my V20 at all? In the past, you couldn't run apps that ran many WIFI tools and other tech'y things, but it seems much of that has changed. I don't run custom ROMs so maybe I don't need to root. Would be glad to hear rebuttals on the subject
I received a new VS995 last week and I flash h910 to get FM radio. I could not be happier as I'm on OREO and the device is working perfectly without any issue whatsoever and with latest mk2000 kernel (2.2 beta) general interface performance is working very well - as it should. Hotspot needed a little workaround bit it wasn't too difficult. I wouldn't dream of going back to stock!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79939652&postcount=269
I know it's not straight to bootloader unlock and root this phone but it's worth the trouble. I hope my new fone will last and last untill manufactures change mind about removable batter and horrible new aspect ratio! No thanks V30 !
You're right.
There's no good reason to root the v20. Even rooted you can't do things that other phones can do, like enabling monitor mode on the Wi-Fi. Nor have I been able to get an external Wi-Fi adapter to work on it.
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There's no good reason to root the v20. Even rooted you can't do things that other phones can do, like enabling monitor mode on the Wi-Fi. Nor have I been able to get an external Wi-Fi adapter to work on it.
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YOU ARE WRONG.
AD BLOCK Yeah they have rootless ad block but they work like ****
screen burn fixes. hows the ghosting?
titanium backup still best option for absolutely all apps getting backed up.
Sorry i have run root too long i cant live without it anymore.
is this happening to just verizon version of LG V20? anyone?
is this happening to just verizon version of LG V20? anyone?

Question How do I update rooted LE2115?

I got the phone just over a month ago and it's on build 11.2.4.4.LE25AA and rooted. The phone, and Google, keep wanting me to update but when I press Download and Install, it downloads 11.2.10.10.LE25AAA but then says "Installation problem." Do I need to unroot it first? I have never had to do this with any other OP phone.
When I first got it I installed android 12 and tried to root using, I assume, a method or image which only worked for 11 and bricked it. Got it restored and back to 11, since I would rather have a rooted phone on 11 than a non-rooted one on 12. Since restoring it was such a pita, I don't want to make the mistake again.
BTW, for anyone using android 12 - Can you disable swiping from the sides of the bottom to activate google assistant? I think google or oneplus promised that in 12. I absolutely hate swiping from the sides of the phone to go back in gesture navigation and want the old method back (which can be done with third party apps if I deactivate the stupid google bottom swipe.) If I can't get this ability, I don't care if I ever update to 12.
I hear ya, this is the most frustrating thing ever. I had a fully OEM phone, until one morning in January, I got an offer to update to 12. The update completely ruined my phone, made it unusable for work. I waited, patiently, until Saturday morning, literally 2.5 months later, when I finally got offered an update. Well, the update didn't fix the issue and in fact, made problems worse. Now my camera didn't work. Desperate, I tried going back to 11, using the insanity of instructions/tutorials on this web site, and ended up with a bricked the phone. After two full days, I've got a working phone again, running OS 11. However, now I cannot receive any updates, without them failing at 25%. I really don't have any solutions for you. OnePlus is straight garbage now. Android is straight garbage. By the time this is over, I might be back in Apple's walled garden. At least over there they make beautiful brick walls that you don't get to escape.
I got mine rooted to A12 without any issues. Unfortunate you guys having issues. I actually like the feature to swipe from the bottom corner to activate Google Assistance but not sure where to turn that off. The AOSP rom I got on my OP 5 has an option to enable/disable this feature. Can't find it on OSS 12 though.

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