Should I Unlock my Bootloader? - Google Pixel Questions & Answers

I don't know how this'll go.......
So all my past android phones I have rooted + installed recoveries and what not. Originally I did this because I heard of a way to increase the battery life of my HTC Incredible via rooting. Afterwards I found myself rooting my Inc2, DNA, Inc4G, and my One M8. This time I did it so I can get the latest versions of Android/HTC Sense (until Google finally made a good looking UI w. 5.0).
Today (technically yesterday at this point) I bought the Pixel in hopes of finally being able to receive consistent android updates. That being said, the idea of being able to get consistent and relatively quick android updates was the whole point of me unlocking + rooting my phone.
I guess the question remains: Should I continue running unlocked with the Pixel, or will the updates from Google be enough?

dkris2020 said:
I guess the question remains: Should I continue running unlocked with the Pixel, or will the updates from Google be enough?
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I like custom recoveries like TWRP because you can make nandroid backups. The downside of unlocking your bootloader is that Android Pay won't work and if someone gets ahold of your phone, like a thief, if the phone is unlocked then they can flash it and it will circumvent any protection on the device.
I like root because you can use apps that require root, like some Ad blockers and Titanium Backup, and because I can remove system apps I don't want on my phone.
It all depends on what you want to do with your phone.

Unless someone has a reason for unlocking the device, generally I don't see the point. There are some things that I want to do with my phone, which are easier to do unlocked, so personally I specifically wanted an unlockable phone. Depending on how much you've read about the Pixel, here are some things you may or may not know.
- Unlocking the device will wipe it, so if you decide later that you want to unlock it will wipe the phone.
- An unlocked stock device can still use the standard OTA updates.
- Some SuperSU users may be able to unroot and then use the standard OTA updates, and some rooted users have reported their phones automatically updating.
- After I started using root my phone fails to install the OTA updates, so I'd guess one of the checked areas on my phone has changed due to the root apps I've used.
- If the OTA notification shows up and the update will not install, with the stock ROM it's possible to burn through a lot of cellular data. When I didn't update my phone this month, it used about 1 GB before I shut off cellular data.
- Items like a computer, TWRP, or FlashFire are the sorts of alternate update routes for the stock ROM if a rooted phone cannot use the standard OTA.

alluringreality said:
some rooted users have reported their phones automatically updating..
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Isn't there a way to disable the automatic updates?

LoliSmith said:
Isn't there a way to disable the automatic updates?
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You can disable them in developer options. I've had my phone since early November (turned off system updates the day I got it) and have never been notified that an update is available. However, some have reported that they had system updates disabled in developer options and they still get notified an update is available. It seems to be hit and miss so I can't say for sure it would work for you or not.

Just addressing OPs concerns, unlocking your phone shouldn't have any impact on updates from Google. You can still get them, OTA or otherwise.
The only downside I'd say, are warranty related (unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty on Verizon models), and security. Google has pretty much decided that having an unlocked bootloader is not secure enough for Android pay, so you'll be without that (However, you can still use loaded gift cards/loyalty program cards. It's just credit/debit cards that won't work).

robocuff said:
You can disable them in developer options. I've had my phone since early November (turned off system updates the day I got it) and have never been notified that an update is available. However, some have reported that they had system updates disabled in developer options and they still get notified an update is available. It seems to be hit and miss so I can't say for sure it would work for you or not.
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On my motorola phones, there was an app that you could freeze using titanium back up. I wonder if there is anything like that with the pixel?
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Soccerdude588 said:
The only downside I'd say, are warranty related (unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty on Verizon models),
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First, that assumes that Google has a record of you unlocking your bootloader, which they may since jcase is saying that the phones have to communicate with the Google servers to unlock the bootloader.
Second, there is a federal law on this and the way it works in this situation is that if unlocking your bootloader is not related to the warranty claim, Google can't deny your claim. For instance, if the charging port fails that is entirely a hardware issue unrelated to unlocking your bootloader. Google must honor the warranty for that.
If you were to brick your device flashing, that would be different but Google would have to have some proof that you not only unlocked your bootloader but that it was the unlocked bootloader that resulted in a bricked phone.

robocuff said:
I've had my phone since early November (turned off system updates the day I got it) and have never been notified that an update is available.
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Are you manually updating your device, or are you running months behind the current release? The reason I ask is that the OTA notices on my phone have been delayed my days or weeks from the initial release, but I think they have showed up eventually when I've stayed on a prior version and the developer option has been shut off.
LoliSmith said:
On my motorola phones, there was an app that you could freeze using titanium back up. I wonder if there is anything like that with the pixel?
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I was hoping the following link might work similar to the Razr updater, but unfortunately the change kept my phone awake and didn't allow deep sleep both times I tried it. The update notification can be shut off by long pressing it, which I think shows up as a notification block. Due to the cellular data drain, my current plan is to try FlashFire for updates, and if that doesn't work well I'll probably try a ROM to avoid OTA updates.
https://www.androidexplained.com/pixel-hide-ota-notification/

alluringreality said:
Are you manually updating your device, or are you running months behind the current release? The reason I ask is that the OTA notices on my phone have been delayed my days or weeks from the initial release, but I think they have showed up eventually when I've stayed on a prior version and the developer option has been shut off.
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I've been manually updating it. Usually within a week or so of the release. However, I skipped the January update all together and never got a notification about it. Maybe I got lucky. Don't know.

Thanks for the input guys.
So a lot of the stuff you guys are saying are things that I have had prior experience with so the actual process of unlocking I have no issues with. If unlocking the Pixel is anything like the Moto X Pure (which it should cause Google) it shouldn't be too much of a hassle.
That said I am with Verizon and I can say that in all of my years of owning rooted/unlocked HTC phones I only ever needed to use my warranty for hardware based claims. Like I said the main reason I unlocked/rooted was to get updated ROMs that Verizon/HTC wouldn't push out to the phone. I think I'll more than likely unlock it but I probably won't root unless I need to.

That's pretty much where I am. I did root, but a recent OTA update that I accidentally took unrooted me. Keeping the bootloader unlocked at least leaves that option available.

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[Q] Verizon OTA Update - 5/30/13

I read on cnet last night that Verizon would be sending an update for all GS3 users and, sure enough, I was prompted for the update for an update morning. (5/30/2013)
I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted.
Does anyone know if this is safe for me to apply? Will I lose root?
Thanks!
yep
You will lose root and if you have a custom recovery (twrp for instance) it will be overwritten. You will also get a "update failed" message. However, the update actually will succeed. You can reroot the same way you did before (unlock bootloader, root, install custom recovery if desired). I was surprised that the OTA was even available for rooted/custom folks. There will be a couple new apps installed, one dealing with CallerID which will force your 4G and WiFi to both be on - freezing that new app will fix that issue too, search the forums for details.
Goddrick said:
I read on cnet last night that Verizon would be sending an update for all GS3 users and, sure enough, I was prompted for the update for an update morning. (5/30/2013)
I am running stock 4.1.2 rooted.
Does anyone know if this is safe for me to apply? Will I lose root?
Thanks!
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gozirra said:
You will lose root and if you have a custom recovery (twrp for instance) it will be overwritten. You will also get a "update failed" message. However, the update actually will succeed. You can reroot the same way you did before (unlock bootloader, root, install custom recovery if desired). I was surprised that the OTA was even available for rooted/custom folks. There will be a couple new apps installed, one dealing with CallerID which will force your 4G and WiFi to both be on - freezing that new app will fix that issue too, search the forums for details.
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How are you surprised about the OTA being available for rooted phones? You don't make any sense with that comment as the update is just that an update. Verizon doesn't know which customers have rooted their device just that you have a device that needed to be updated.
Because thats the way it always was back when I had my original Incredible? A lot of people were surprised that the update was available to them, I'm not a minority here. No reason to be rude.
jmxc23 said:
How are you surprised about the OTA being available for rooted phones? You don't make any sense with that comment as the update is just that an update. Verizon doesn't know which customers have rooted their device just that you have a device that needed to be updated.
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Because thats the way it always was back when I had my original Incredible? A lot of people were surprised that the update was available to them, I'm not a minority here. No reason to be rude.
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I am not being rude just stating the fact that Verizon doesn't know your phone is rooted in fact all companies don't know what you did to your phones until something bad happens to it. I will also add that the update will be pushed regardless if you're rooted or not the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.
jmxc23 said:
I am not being rude just stating the fact that Verizon doesn't know your phone is rooted in fact all companies don't know what you did to your phones until something bad happens to it. I will also add that the update will be pushed regardless if you're rooted or not the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.
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Funny I did not see him mention anywhere that Verizon knew anything. His experience with a previous phone was that for some reason after rooting etc. his phone did not receive OTA updates. Whatever the reason, instead of being rude, you could have simply helped him understand like you finally did : "... the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.".
ghostboa said:
Funny I did not see him mention anywhere that Verizon knew anything. His experience with a previous phone was that for some reason after rooting etc. his phone did not receive OTA updates. Whatever the reason, instead of being rude, you could have simply helped him understand like you finally did : "... the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.".
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Okay I have corrected myself like you have so eloquently posted I don't see the need to defend him if I already like you stated told him finally the reason. I already know that I should have done it sooner and like I normally do correctly fall back and respond in a normal tone. I unlike others am self aware of what I do and make an effort to correct any wrongs that I have caused. I don't filter myself when I post my thoughts so they can come across
as rude depending on your sensitivity level the difference is that I don't insult people nor belittle them in any way. I can only imagine how you or anyone will react if I was a total jackass.
ok then
Thanks for the explanation. follow-up question - if Verizon doesn't "know" then what is with the "unauthorized software discovered, call Verizon" popup that so many people have reported? Or the infamous yellow triangle? I assumed (yeah I know the cliche) that Verizon in fact DID "know" otherwise that wouldn't have happened. Simple mistake based on past experience, sorry.
As a side note.. If you have Titanium you can freeze SDM 1.0 and you won't get those updates
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Thanks for the explanation. follow-up question - if Verizon doesn't "know" then what is with the "unauthorized software discovered, call Verizon" popup that so many people have reported? Or the infamous yellow triangle? I assumed (yeah I know the cliche) that Verizon in fact DID "know" otherwise that wouldn't have happened. Simple mistake based on past experience, sorry.
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This is completely unrelated to OTAs though. That warning is solely because of the secure bootloader on the Verizon GSIII. That warning is built into the system to pop up whenever you try installing software to the phone without having the prerelease bootloader in place. Verizon and Samsung intentionally made this model GSIII more difficult to install custom software onto or to make it a more secure device, depending on how you look at it. It's a business decision at the end of the day.
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Probably business related as they don't want to be the first company to have an worldwide malware problem on their devices.
ghostboa said:
...you could have simply helped him understand like you finally did : "... the only time it won't get pushed is with a custom ROM made by someone who knows how to block Verizon updates.".
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That's the key (at least in my experience with HTC phones). I can't remember the name of the file, but it was one file that you could rename and the phone would not check or ignore OTA updates that were pushed by the carrier.
i downloaded the update the other day by mistake as it bricked my phone. im rooted only and stock. i know its going to keep forcing the update thru, is there anyway i can get the update to go thru successfully without bricking my phone again?
You didn't brick your phone at least not a hardware brick.

Small Update Is Out

It does not change ver. from 4.1.2
what does this updatedo?
What does this update do? Does it affect my root? Thanks!
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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AFwarbird said:
It is notifying me too. Since I have twrp and root on stock jelly bean, how can I update if helpful, or turn off update notification?
Chad
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Started getting the notification yesterday, but I'm also on stock Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and TWRP. I was able to stop the notifications by freezing "AT&T Sofware Update" with Titanium Backup, but I'd also like to know if there's anything here worth the trouble of trying to get it installed.
I just had a chat session with a Samsung official, and she said it's news to them. I told her that I am on I727UCMC1, and she said that my device is up to date. The small update AT&T is pushing must be something to do with AT&T.
Unless it updates my camera features, I'm not even bothering with it, and will keep AT&T Update frozen.
I'm pretty sure I'd have to backup everything, revert to stock UCMC1, cross my fingers and toes that it still doesn't brick my phone, and hope it still can be rooted the way I did before.
It sure would be nice if there was some sort of explanation as to what is being updated. I have looked all over and not found anything anywhere else that mentions this update to I727UCNJ1. I got the number from this an at&t website I would post the link but can't. It is only 12mb so probably not worth a bunch of trouble but I wish I knew what it is trying to update.
Paranoid?
Me too. Mine is original stock, but I upgraded the Android OS last year to 4.1.2 via Samsung Kies. However, mine is unlocked, and I can't help but be suspicious that AT&T is "updating" to do something that is to their benefit and not ours (i.e. relocking the phone?, spyware, etc.?), so it would be nice to have some details of what/why this unexpected update, before blindly agreeing to it. So, if anyone know what this update is all about, please share with us. Thanks very much!
My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
I chatted with an AT&T representative yesterday, and all I could get out of her was that the update had to do with new features to the O/S. That's all the information that she could find, and couldn't tell me any specifics about what features were being updated.
I am about to go to an S5 or S5 Active soon, and I might just revert to stock to check it out.
It's pretty fishy though that neither Samsung, or AT&T has, or wants to divulge in any, information on exactly what it's going to do.
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As far as it locking your device back down, I have yet to flash, or install anything that has re-locked my phone. I guess it's possible. The only thing I'm worried about is losing root, and not being able to get it back with the last way that's available.
I see it's now listed on the AT&T eSupport website No details, just "Android OS Enhancements".
I don't have enough posts on this forum to be permitted to publish a link, but you can find it by Googling "AT&T Update to Skyrocket", and the eSupport link should be near the top of the results.
AT&T is taking the same tack as Verizon, and locking everything down. Even the mid to low end phones. So, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a way to lock older phones.
On the other hand, it really may be final bug fixes - a sort of final service pack. I wish I trusted them to give it a try.
I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
Thanks very much for your feedback. I've always just put a SIM card from another carrier into my phone. Even if it is not an active SIM, your phone should still tell you whether or not it is locked.
24fan4life said:
I reverted back to stock I727UCMC1 using Odin v1.85, updated OTA to I727UCNJ1, flashed TWRP custom recovery, got root back, but I am not sure if I am still unlocked or not. I tried *#7465625# on the dialer, but the code does nothing.
Anyone know of another code to check the unlock status?
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unless u restored a previous efs partition that was locked to a carrier then u will remain unlocked, afaik no one lost their unlocked sim by restoring or flashing any firmwares, to read more about the sim lock or to unlock the sim read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2638037
as for firmwares locking down the phone its referring to the way root is acheived not to the sim carrier lock
T.J. Bender said:
My money's on an update that locks the phone down. What else would AT&T possibly do with a three-year-old platform that isn't making them any new money at this point?
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
Clarification?
lingowistico said:
i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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Thanks, that was very helpful! Seriously though, as a senior member of this forum, perhaps you might have some constructive comments on this subject? After all, we're sitting here with phones (the I-727 SII Skyrocket is an oldie, but goodie!) that are trying to push an unanticipated OTA update on us, in a very suspicious manner. We hope it's just a bug fix, but don't trust the carrier (AT&T) to be doing this, unless they have some ulterior motive. The benefit of your substantial experience would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any insight you can offer us.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices. Several devices started out unlocked, like the S2, and became locked by OTA updates. The S3, Note 2, etc.
IOW, I wouldn't put it past them, especially if Samsung wasn't aware of the update. On the flip side, the S2 is no longer even for sale, and I have to wonder how many are left in active service.
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Thank you for your insight, it was TRULY helpful! As a relative newbie, I just want to clarify our terms. When you use the term "unlocked", I deduce you are referring to a phone that has been rooted and is running a different platform - is that correct? In my case, I am NOT rooted and simply running the original crappy stock platform, but my phone is "unlocked" in the traditional sense, in that I can use it with different sims from different carriers throughout the world, rather than being "locked" to AT&T. So, for those of us who are not as technically advanced, could you please clarify? For me, if this OTA update doesn't prevent me from continuing to use other sims from other carriers, then I don't know what the downside would be, unless they're just adding more spyware and bloatware to their already intrusive system? I look forward to your comments.
Regards,
Ron M.
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Not so insane, I'm afraid. AT&T has started a war on unlocked bootloaders lately. The CEO has officially come out as saying they don't want unlocked devices on their network, and have followed up by sending out OTA updates that lock down devices.
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I thought T.J. Bender was talking about simlock since he didn't mention the bootloader. :silly:
At&t sure isn't making life easy for you.. I'd still be proudly rocking a skyrocket too if I didn't lose it :angel:
I only messed with my Skyrocket for an hour or so after accepting the OTA update, before starting up my new S 5 Active.
The only thing that I really noticed, was they took the AT&T phone setup app off of it, since it is no longer in use by AT&T. There may have been more that I didn't notice, but only running it a couple hours, I couldn't tell. I even checked the camera thinking they might have finally snuck some new features into it, but no dice.
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i hope you are joking, because if not then then you're insane. no offense intended.
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How does suggesting that AT&T would lock a bootloader make me insane?
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LG Q7+ Update Avaiable

So this morning I woke up to a security update message from T-Mobile. So if your interested they are rolling out a security update this morning. Now I'm actually with Metro Pcs but I recently flashed my device with the T-Mobile variant since it has less bloat ware and just ain't garbage as Metro's firmware. So being that Metro is part of the T-Mobile network I'm assuming you will be receiving it as well.
Now as for anyone ever hoping to require root you might want to block this update as I have just done. As you can see from the picture attached they are not giving you an option as in these updates make it harder and harder for someone to find an exploit or a (back door) as many say to aquire root. As as since it has been mentioned that these devices if and do receive the Android Pie 9.0 update it wouldn't be until late 2019 so til then I'm going to keep exploring and working on finding a way to root this device. For noobies, YES I ALREADY HAVE READ THE ANDROID TECH ARTICLES AND YOU TUBE VIDEOS. The switch in developer options will not unlock bootloader and LG does not have these devices on their list of phones even capable to be unlocked. So til then it's back to the grind.
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Paranoid "security" is purely meant to stifle open source community activity, nothing else (Maybe someone would need this if worked as CIA/MOSAD spy )
Hey, Funisillegal to turn off the automatic update just the toggle in developer options is enough right?
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Hey, Funisillegal to turn off the automatic update just the toggle in developer options is enough right?
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No it's not brotha it will still force update just like clicking the unlock bootloader doesn't unlock bootloader
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No it's not brotha it will still force update just like clicking the unlock bootloader doesn't unlock bootloader
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So how do you turn off automatic updates?
And isnt't enough simply to switch updates off from Android regular settings?
Settings->System->About Phone->Security updates (or somehow similar, watching just on my Polish menu)
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So this morning I woke up to a security update message from T-Mobile. So if your interested they are rolling out a security update this morning. Now I'm actually with Metro Pcs but I recently flashed my device with the T-Mobile variant since it has less bloat ware and just ain't garbage as Metro's firmware. So being that Metro is part of the T-Mobile network I'm assuming you will be receiving it as well.
Now as for anyone ever hoping to require root you might want to block this update as I have just done. As you can see from the picture attached they are not giving you an option as in these updates make it harder and harder for someone to find an exploit or a (back door) as many say to aquire root. As as since it has been mentioned that these devices if and do receive the Android Pie 9.0 update it wouldn't be until late 2019 so til then I'm going to keep exploring and working on finding a way to root this device. For noobies, YES I ALREADY HAVE READ THE ANDROID TECH ARTICLES AND YOU TUBE VIDEOS. The switch in developer options will not unlock bootloader and LG does not have these devices on their list of phones even capable to be unlocked. So til then it's back to the grind.
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Is anyone even working on a root for this device? Doesn't seem like it, I have one of these phones sealed in box never opened for the off chance someone picks up the charge and needs a stock firmware to toy around with given the phone was BOGO when I picked it up for my DIGITS line.
So far relying on ISLAND and IceBox, and it yields nice results.
Lg has equiped system with many quite useful and convenient features.
Not needed applications are just frozen.
However waiting for brealing from such utilities as KingoRoot.
So far disabled automatic updates hopefully making would-be exploits available for future versions of KingoRoot.View attachment 4747486

Rooted Pixel on 8.0 updated today to 8.1, whaaaa?

(Background: non-VZW Pixel, running Android 8.0.0 on Verizon, unlocked, rooted, SuperSU, AdAway, Titanium Backup etc. Otherwise stock ROM and it's never asked me if I wanted an update. All the changes I made, I made when I first got the phone almost 2 years ago and the system has been stable since then.)
OK, I don't get *at all* why this happened. Today I got my phone out and it was *finishing* an update (despite not saying anything about an update when I had the phone out several times over the hours leading up to that -- and data is slow where I live because the cell service is marginal). Phone was generally acting funny about hotspot and data, even by the somewhat iffy standard it normally sets here. Rebooted it, and -- oh, we're in 8.1?? Interface is noticeably different in little ways (so, I'm not misremembering the 8.0 part). I also lost root, so there was definitely a major change with the OS. Bootloader is still unlocked.
First off, how did this happen? I'm positive that I never said yes to an update. I'm also positive that I was rooted and bootloader unlocked (since, again, AdAway and Titanium Backup wouldn't have worked if I weren't). Bootloader is still unlocked, but I definitely am not rooted anymore, checked with SuperSU, and also Titanium Backup doesn't work anymore.
Second, why did this not bootloop the phone? I know accepting an update with unlocked bootloader and rooted is asking for trouble.
Third, is there any reasonably straightforward way to downgrade? I liked 8.0, I don't like the Google search bar that 8.1 wants to put at the bottom of the screen, and I'd like to go back to what I'm used to.
Thanks in advance!
i dont get *at all* why you talk *like this* here -- whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
also you probably have automatic updates enabled, what i dont understand is why you would be using supersu in ****ing october 2019, that **** died years ago and has been generally recommended to avoid.
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i dont get *at all* why you talk *like this* here -- whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
also you probably have automatic updates enabled, what i dont understand is why you would be using supersu in ****ing october 2019, that **** died years ago and has been generally recommended to avoid.
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Sorry my setup did not meet with your approval. It worked very well for almost 2 years, and during that time never attempted to do an automatic update. That's why I was so baffled: why, after 2 years of no auto-updates, did it insist on doing one now? (I was so surprised that I even got out some extra asterisks and asked *why*?
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Sorry my setup did not meet with your approval. It worked very well for almost 2 years, and during that time never attempted to do an automatic update. That's why I was so baffled: why, after 2 years of no auto-updates, did it insist on doing one now? (I was so surprised that I even got out some extra asterisks and asked *why*?
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1. use magisk, supersu got bought out by some chinese company a while back and probably contains some really fishy ****. it also leaves a mess on your phone if you ever need to remove it. you can also pass safteynet with magisk.
2. if automatic updates isnt disabled in developer options, it is very possible that is what had happened.

Your 986u $125 bl unlock experience

Have there been many failures?
How do you feel about the process?/How did it go?
Any pitfalls I should be aware of? Warranty issues, easy to brick the phone afterwards, etc?
Does it matter what software im on? I'm on the original shipped OS and it's threatening me with a forced update. Yes I turned off the updates in settings and developer options, no avail.
I am a Fi user and just came from a 3 generations of Nexus/Pixels, my last Sam phone was an S4 on Verizon. Root is life.
Thanks
I also came from pixels (and oneplus) been unlocked since the beginning of December, also Fi. No issues whatsoever. The people doing the unlock are cool and to my knowledge the only device lost to the process was one of the peoples who is doing the unlocks, after he tried to relock the bootloader. And that leads to, once unlocked don't relock. You get one shot. 10/10 would do it again
I'm soo ready also to get the boot loader unlocked. one question I have will bank account apps still work, will the battery charge 100‰.
Jack143 said:
I'm soo ready also to get the boot loader unlocked. one question I have will bank account apps still work, will the battery charge 100‰.
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yes and yes. at least mine do.
Another question I have that is more specific, I'm wanting to get a good call blocking app that will block calls at the root system. which will cause the caller end not to ring when their number is blocked. I purchased root sms manager but I don't have root yet. Have anyone tried the app on a rooted note and it blocks the caller from getting a ring? Hope someone can check.

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