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I have been baffled by this since GB era, coz I couldn't figure out why the ram don't add up.
In JB, Settings > Apps > Running, shows a list running apps. you also have an option to see a list of cached apps.
Below the list is a bar graph clearly showing what's free. However, it is about the used part that I don't quite understand. From what I can see, the running apps only make up part of it.
In the attached email, I've marked with red rectangle for I don't know what, yellow rectangle for what I think is the running apps, and purple rectangle on the right for free memory.
Can anyone tell me what the red rectangle represents? Is it memory used by the system?
Hi
Are u just asking for information purposes or is there a specific reason why you're asking.
Battery drain?
Slow processes?
Random reboots?
What ROM are u using?
Im just curious because it can help someone with their response to ur question.
And that is a cool font ur using. Did that come with the ROM or did u apply it?
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Yes 288mb used by system/apps
vidaljs said:
Hi
Are u just asking for information purposes or is there a specific reason why you're asking.
Battery drain?
Slow processes?
Random reboots?
What ROM are u using?
Im just curious because it can help someone with their response to ur question.
And that is a cool font ur using. Did that come with the ROM or did u apply it?
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short answer: slow processes, launcher redraws, laggy operation in general on Jellybro and XenonHD.
with ICS and a few initial JB roms, I totally forgot about this question at the back of my head.
But, I am on Jellybro (CM10 based) and also trying out XenonHD, with both installed after formatting/wiping data, system, cache, and dalvik, and I experienced redraws on launcher and lags in operation in general after a few 10 hours or so of system on time. I checked the running apps, and I saw that the left red rectangle is eating up almost 70% of the ram and only 30+mb shown as free memory.
running app list didn't show anything strange. It's just the free ram is extremely low.
So, I was wondering what the red rectangle area of the memory represented.
greg2826 said:
Yes 288mb used by system/apps
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so, the red rectangle is showing what the system is using up?
I always thought system area of the memory was allocated separately and system was restricted to operate within that area...but from what I can see the red rectangle area varies from about 40% to up to 70% from what I can judge with my eyes...
but wait, I thought Nexus S came with 512mb RAM, of which part of it is force allocated to the system and not usable by user apps. So, 288mb is additional unusable memory? that would mean we only have about 100+ ram for my apps. that stinks... hm...
vis80k said:
so, the red rectangle is showing what the system is using up?
I always thought system area of the memory was allocated separately and system was restricted to operate within that area...but from what I can see the red rectangle area varies from about 40% to up to 70% from what I can judge with my eyes...
but wait, I thought Nexus S came with 512mb RAM, of which part of it is force allocated to the system and not usable by user apps. So, 288mb is additional unusable memory? that would mean we only have about 100+ ram for my apps. that stinks... hm...
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Nexus S came with 512mb RAM but from it a portion of that RAM is reserved for graphics and other internal stuff and leave you just with 384Mb for the rest.
vis80k said:
so, the red rectangle is showing what the system is using up?
I always thought system area of the memory was allocated separately and system was restricted to operate within that area...but from what I can see the red rectangle area varies from about 40% to up to 70% from what I can judge with my eyes...
but wait, I thought Nexus S came with 512mb RAM, of which part of it is force allocated to the system and not usable by user apps. So, 288mb is additional unusable memory? that would mean we only have about 100+ ram for my apps. that stinks... hm...
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With such a problems u might try Jelly Belly 1.5.1, I've been running since release and never had such a issue, everything is smooth like butter...
Regarding low memory, don't worry about that, when i fire up all my apps like stock browser, maps, pulse, flipboard etc, i have around 50mb free but still quite smooth.
Btw i tried Xennon and few others and there were laggy like hell on my phone.
Maybe i or my phone, or we both like stock feeling....
Nun3s said:
Nexus S came with 512mb RAM but from it a portion of that RAM is reserved for graphics and other internal stuff and leave you just with 384Mb for the rest.
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so os itself is using up the 384 that's left? and so the red rectangle is the os/system usage?
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greg2826 said:
With such a problems u might try Jelly Belly 1.5.1, I've been running since release and never had such a issue, everything is smooth like butter...
Regarding low memory, don't worry about that, when i fire up all my apps like stock browser, maps, pulse, flipboard etc, i have around 50mb free but still quite smooth.
Btw i tried Xennon and few others and there were laggy like hell on my phone.
Maybe i or my phone, or we both like stock feeling....
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jellybro gave me a bit of lag..
xenon was almost unusable.
now am on slimbean and all's good.
similar to jellybelly experience
waiting for jb oxygen release or slimbean to level up to its slimics level~
just missing a few features like volume wake and media skip.
edit. low memory itself is not what's worrying me. it's the frequent launcher redraws and slow app launches and laggy!! response...which strangely doesn't haopen on some roms even with low free mem.... hm~
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vis80k said:
jellybro gave me a bit of lag..
xenon was almost unusable.
now am on slimbean and all's good.
similar to jellybelly experience
waiting for jb oxygen release or slimbean to level up to its slimics level~
just missing a few features like volume wake and media skip.
edit. low memory itself is not what's worrying me. it's the frequent launcher redraws and slow app launches and laggy!! response...which strangely doesn't haopen on some roms even with low free mem.... hm~
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We probably don't have enough ram/processor to run smoothly all those apps etc
Nexus s 1G/512mb < galaxy nexus 2*1.2G/1G
vis80k said:
short answer: slow processes, launcher redraws, laggy operation in general on Jellybro and XenonHD.
with ICS and a few initial JB roms, I totally forgot about this question at the back of my head.
But, I am on Jellybro (CM10 based) and also trying out XenonHD, with both installed after formatting/wiping data, system, cache, and dalvik, and I experienced redraws on launcher and lags in operation in general after a few 10 hours or so of system on time. I checked the running apps, and I saw that the left red rectangle is eating up almost 70% of the ram and only 30+mb shown as free memory.
running app list didn't show anything strange. It's just the free ram is extremely low.
So, I was wondering what the red rectangle area of the memory represented.
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Ur App "swipepad" is a memory hog according to reviews.
try the ROM bare boned... if its still lagging then try a different kernel. Or try for different ROM that does not lag bare boned.
Then add ur memory hog apps one at a time so u can pinpoint the main hog
Good luck.
BTW try the ROM I'm using... it has no lag.... paranoid android by DaXmax
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vidaljs said:
Ur App "swipepad" is a memory hog according to reviews.
try the ROM bare boned... if its still lagging then try a different kernel. Or try for different ROM that does not lag bare boned.
Then add ur memory hog apps one at a time so u can pinpoint the main hog
Good luck.
BTW try the ROM I'm using... it has no lag.... paranoid android by DaXmax
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swipepad takes 6~7mb. never saw it go beyond unreasonable point.
besides, it doesn't count into the red rectangle on the left
as said adding all app memory use in the list does not add up to 300+mb it says is being used...
anyway. got on slimbean and everything smooth and good~
some says it is a cm10 issue and jellybro being kanged cm10, same problem.
but c'mon swipepad is good! can't live without it anymore....
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In application tab, it doesn't show available memory.
That number is "you can get this amount of ram by killing apps(background running...etc)"
When u using it long time, RAM(that value) reduces, so u have to reboot..
Otherwise, How about buying GNex..
BTW, what's ur font in screenshot?
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ioplkj13 said:
In application tab, it doesn't show available memory.
That number is "you can get this amount of ram by killing apps(background running...etc)"
When u using it long time, RAM(that value) reduces, so u have to reboot..
Otherwise, How about buying GNex..
BTW, what's ur font in screenshot?
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...let me see if I understood you correctly.
do you mean that 288mb in my screenshot is what I can get back when I kill all running apps? That means, 288mb MUST equal to the sum of memory used by all the apps in the shown list.
Or, wait, do you mean the numbers next to each app in the list means how much memory will be returned when I kill that app? that just means that the app is taking up that much of memory...
in my screenshot, I have 3 rectangles. maybe they are not clearly contrasted to notice. red rectangle on the left, yellow rectangle in the middle, and purple rectangle on the right.
- purple rectangle on the right seems pretty obvious that 188mb of memory is currently free, of which some cached apps reside at the moment.
- yellow rectangle in the middle, I am guessing it represents the portion of used memory that the apps in the shown list are using.
- reason for this guess is because adding up all apps in the list does not equal 288mb.
- red rectangle on the left, I am guessing it represents OS using up.
- the 288mb seems to represent the SUM of yellow and red rectangle.
- so, 288 + 108 = 396mb is the total usable ram for my phone.
my question is, is my understanding of yellow and red rectangles correct? if not, I wanted to find out from you guys...
oh, and for those interested more in what font that is in the screenshot, the filename says fbplum...
there are other things taking memories as well, like scrolling cache, so if you can reduce that and other things, you get less memory hog, but slightly more laggy, and that's part of the reason why iOS doesn't support real multi-tasking.
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...let me see if I understood you correctly.
do you mean that 288mb in my screenshot is what I can get back when I kill all running apps? That means, 288mb MUST equal to the sum of memory used by all the apps in the shown list.
Or, wait, do you mean the numbers next to each app in the list means how much memory will be returned when I kill that app? that just means that the app is taking up that much of memory...
in my screenshot, I have 3 rectangles. maybe they are not clearly contrasted to notice. red rectangle on the left, yellow rectangle in the middle, and purple rectangle on the right.
- purple rectangle on the right seems pretty obvious that 188mb of memory is currently free, of which some cached apps reside at the moment.
- yellow rectangle in the middle, I am guessing it represents the portion of used memory that the apps in the shown list are using.
- reason for this guess is because adding up all apps in the list does not equal 288mb.
- red rectangle on the left, I am guessing it represents OS using up.
- the 288mb seems to represent the SUM of yellow and red rectangle.
- so, 288 + 108 = 396mb is the total usable ram for my phone.
my question is, is my understanding of yellow and red rectangles correct? if not, I wanted to find out from you guys...
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512-39x=hardware takes ur ram, camcoder, radio...etc
39x=total ram for software
Blue rectangle=ur OS takes RAM+apps you are running(servies maybe..)+Loss of RAM by killing-running apps(reboot clears this)
108mb=Max. Amount of ram you can get when you launch other heavy apps(killing background cache)
For me, cm10 jellybro(0810) works best, but according to benchmark, ram score is little bit bad..(Maybe it's meaningless..)
Let's just wait for rasbean jelly..
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oh, and for those interested more in what font that is in the screenshot, the filename says fbplum...
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Where can i get that
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Billchen0014 said:
there are other things taking memories as well, like scrolling cache, so if you can reduce that and other things, you get less memory hog, but slightly more laggy, and that's part of the reason why iOS doesn't support real multi-tasking.
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on a mobile device with 512mb ram, of which only about 300mb is left available for OS and user apps, full multitasking is not a good thing. 'coz it requires users to take memory management into their own hands.
on newer devices with !GB+ ram, I guess Android OS will do just fine to manage memory.
anyhow, iOS can also run out of memory, right? requiring user to manually remove cached apps from memory, otherwise even iOS becomes laggy, is what I hear from iPhone users.
...and that's coming from an OS where tons of money went in to make smoothness and feel as best as possible~... iOS still gotta improve I guess.
Corioli said:
Where can i get that
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here's the font in a flashable zip file.
boot to recovery, make sure system partition is mounted, then flash the zip.
credits go to the actual person who created the font, whom I have no idea of, and to the person who made it into a flashable zip.
if there's any problem with sharing this font here, let me know so I can take it down immediately.
Finally got the OTA for my Moto G and it appears you can swap Dalvik for ART. Has anyone tried it and seen a difference?
Tried doing it with my Gnex but it borked it (was one an incompatible ROM).
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Finally got the OTA for my Moto G and it appears you can swap Dalvik for ART. Has anyone tried it and seen a difference?
Tried doing it with my Gnex but it borked it (was one an incompatible ROM).
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I'm using ART. All apps are working, no problem yet. One thing — I marked increase time of apps installing, and it's normal ART's feathure. General impression that ART+KitKat working faster and more smoothly than JB+Dalvik
Yes art here as well. Noticeable speed improvement across every aspect of ui
Moto Gee :-¢
Here is a posting detail which apps do and don't work under ART
http://www.androidruntime.com/list
Just in case you have a 'must have' app & then find out it won't run under ART
ruslanche said:
I'm using ART. All apps are working, no problem yet. One thing — I marked increase time of apps installing, and it's normal ART's feathure. General impression that ART+KitKat working faster and more smoothly than JB+Dalvik
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May I ask if the apps you have installed use more RAM while they are running?
Has you installed any system monitor apps and compared the RAM usage on some of the apps that you have installed?
iamwyim said:
May I ask if the apps you have installed use more RAM while they are running?
Has you installed any system monitor apps and compared the RAM usage on some of the apps that you have installed?
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I think that these are a bit unuseful questions, because in near future we have always only ART, so it's a bit unseful at least for me to do these questions i think.. :good:
Does having ART on the Moto G gives us more battery life?
monchee said:
Does having ART on the Moto G gives us more battery life?
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Google's developers promise faster and more efficient execution, better battery life, and a more fluid experience.
Xposed or ART?
So if you have to choose between ART and Xposed, what would you prefere at this stage?
My G has still not arrived yet, have to wait till January to test it but that's a question what bugs me.
I've had very similar experiences switching to Android Runtime with both my N4 and Moto G. My biggest perception is that there is a decrease in the load time of most apps. Once an app is running, I'm not sure that it is any smoother then under dalvik, however, I certainly don't notice and any lagging with either model. One thing I have observed with the N4 but so far not yet with the Moto G is a slight decrease in battery life when running under ART.
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mokkami said:
So if you have to choose between ART and Xposed, what would you prefere at this stage?
My G has still not arrived yet, have to wait till January to test it but that's a question what bugs me.
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No brainer to me, I stick with Xposed (I want Xprivacy and Gravity Box).
I tried ART briefly on my Nexus 7 2013 and the performance impact was not even measurable in benchmarks. I do however believe that this will change with further updates to ART.
I have ART enabled and use xposed along with all of my normal modules. No need to choose.
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I have ART enabled and use xposed along with all of my normal modules. No need to choose.
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Impossible. Xposed doesn t work on art.
Well now I feel like an idiot... I had ART enabled before unlocking my bootloader. I didn't think to set it again so I guess I am not using it. I guess I choose xposed over ART
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DaveinAsia said:
I've had very similar experiences switching to Android Runtime with both my N4 and Moto G. My biggest perception is that there is a decrease in the load time of most apps.
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That would definitely happen - it has no need to run JIT first. I am wondering, did you run Antutu on ART?
I had to disable ART.. phone was acting up and some apps I use don't work with it. Might try to enable it again when I have time to mess around with it
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I am currently running stock with franco kernel 32...
i always see that my ram consumption is always very high about 1 gb...
i have auto sync off and by using gravity box module i often clear all the apps but still i get this high ram usage.. the apps i use are mostly paid version and dont have adds. I use greenify as well but still usage is high..
in my cached processes google search and aosp keyboard consume around 100 mb of memory
will this affect my battery life.?
pls can someone help?
Don't worry. Android uses as much ram as it can. Unless you're seeing performance issues if just leave it alone.
Hi,
Nothing abnormal to have about 1Gb used (there was a thing about RAM usage in the last version if I remember right, but not with R32 so...).
Maybe not necessary to clear often the recent apps (nor useful).
Nothing to worry about your battery life.
You apps stays in memory for faster use, let Android manage its ram, with 2Gb (a bit less for user/app) it's enough...
Ram is supposed to be used. The old adage "free ram is useless ram" applies here.
The ram device itself will use power as all components will however, it is "always on" it doesn't matter if its 1MB or 1GB.... it's same power regardless.
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@JJD1639 thanks for the assurance man.. i thought it may cause battery drain.:good:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
@rootSU thanks u! ya i had heard that in linux as opposed to conventional windows belief its rather that free ram is wasted ram.. so even if i start a game a high requirement one the OS will do the job itself?
Yeo
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Sonone said:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
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No, what I mean is let your apps currently running like they are, in the recent apps. If a day you are really very low in memory for whatever reason (like 200-300Mb free for example) and you experience lags, reboot ant it's fine. But Android will do the necessary before (unless a "huge memory leak" like we have seen or some wrong memory management settings caused by a "RAM manager app" or some "magic RAM script").
My opinion was not about Greenify in particular, I have no opinion about it... If you need or want to hibernate them, do it, for the other apps, leave them running
Not sure if I explain myself well
If you want post some screenshots of your apps running and cache process to see, but with what you said it seems that there is nothing wrong...
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No, what I mean is let your apps currently running like they are, in the recent apps. If a day you are really very low in memory for whatever reason (like 200-300Mb free for example) and you experience lags, reboot ant it's fine. But Android will do the necessary before (unless a "huge memory leak" like we have seen or some wrong memory management settings caused by a "RAM manager app" or some "magic RAM script").
My opinion was not about Greenify in particular, I have no opinion about it... If you need or want to hibernate them, do it, for the other apps, leave them running
Not sure if I explain myself well
If you want post some screenshots of your apps running and cache process to see, but with what you said it seems that there is nothing wrong...
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ya there is nothing wrong... its just that I am probably being a bit too curious for no reason...
i shall leave it to the OS memory management..I just checked there's no rogue app consuming memory.. the ones which are running seem quite justified!:good:
and please dude,i got you (explained well)and i really appreciate the support and help from all of you.. i post a thing and within a minute there are people to help..:highfive::angel:
Sonone said:
and please dude,i got you (explained well)and i really appreciate the support and help from all of you.. i post a thing and within a minute there are people to help..:highfive::angel:
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Yes, all seems good :good:
Curiosity is good and you're welcome
Sonone said:
@JJD1639 thanks for the assurance man.. i thought it may cause battery drain.:good:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
@rootSU thanks u! ya i had heard that in linux as opposed to conventional windows belief its rather that free ram is wasted ram.. so even if i start a game a high requirement one the OS will do the job itself?
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ps. this applies to pretty much all desktop OS's as well as mobile in the past 10 years or so.. linux, windows, osx etc.. 90% ram usage or more should be normal unless you have an insane amount of ram in the system.
nexusprouser said:
my ram booster keeps clearing my ram because it uses up to 1.6
any process I can shut down from default to stop it from clearing?
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Get rid of ram booster. You don't need it and it's causing more problems than it's fixing.
If I notice my device slow down, I click the button to switch apps and swipe them all closed.
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I should say, I don't need to worry about it on this phone.
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Sonone said:
I am currently running stock with franco kernel 32...
i always see that my ram consumption is always very high about 1 gb...
i have auto sync off and by using gravity box module i often clear all the apps but still i get this high ram usage.. the apps i use are mostly paid version and dont have adds. I use greenify as well but still usage is high..
in my cached processes google search and aosp keyboard consume around 100 mb of memory
will this affect my battery life.?
pls can someone help?
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Try this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327541
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Ashcunak said:
ps. this applies to pretty much all desktop OS's as well as mobile in the past 10 years or so.. linux, windows, osx etc.. 90% ram usage or more should be normal unless you have an insane amount of ram in the system.
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memory management has not been a quite favourite subject of mine
Sonone said:
memory management has not been a quite favourite subject of mine
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Even on high end devices like nexus???
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Mr hOaX said:
Even on high end devices like nexus???
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i meant academically!
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i meant academically!
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Okay cool
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Hello guys!
First of all, my english isn't that good, so I will try to do my best!
So, I have two questions (and sorry if this is the wrong place):
1-) About RAM management: Where can I check what's running in the background (and using my RAM)? And how can I "kill" all these applications rapidly?
2-) I noticed that my SD card can be used as an "extension" of my internal storage. So, im using a Sandisk Class 10 card, but, when I picked the option where it uses my SD card as "extension", it said that my card seems to be slow, and I may improve it. Then, I ask you:
2.1-) Why am I receiving this message?
2.2-) Using this option, may I suffer more "lags" and framerate slowdowns (while playing) than if I picked the another option?
That's it.
Thank you guys!
1) you don't, and can't in the stock ROM... You shouldn't ever manually kill tasks. This hasn't been an acceptable thing since Gingerbread or maybe early Jellybean. This will literally slow down your device, the Android (Linux) kernel handles this job, free RAM is wasted RAM, this isn't Windows. You can see average RAM usage in Settings, Memory, but you can't close anything here
2) to my knowledge everyone gets this message regardless of its speed, it's kind of a "bug" I guess. The second part of your question is tougher to answer because people's experience vary widely with no consist variable like card speed, RAM, or variant. Best I can say is try it and see.
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acejavelin said:
1) you don't, and can't in the stock ROM... You shouldn't ever manually kill tasks. This hasn't been an acceptable thing since Gingerbread or maybe early Jellybean. This will literally slow down your device, the Android (Linux) kernel handles this job, free RAM is wasted RAM, this isn't Windows. You can see average RAM usage in Settings, Memory, but you can't close anything here
2) to my knowledge everyone gets this message regardless of its speed, it's kind of a "bug" I guess. The second part of your question is tougher to answer because people's experience vary widely with no consist variable like card speed, RAM, or variant. Best I can say is try it and see.
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ok! Thank you for the answer!
But, i.e. if a game (or an application) need more RAM to run smootlhy (just an example), how will the system manage the memory?
Hugo_Xnaider said:
ok! Thank you for the answer!
But, i.e. if a game (or an application) need more RAM to run smootlhy (just an example), how will the system manage the memory?
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Android will automatically remove stale or older tasks as an application needs resources.
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acejavelin said:
Android will automatically remove stale or older tasks as an application needs resources.
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Thanks!
But how the multi-task function works then?
Only the active task will use CPU&RAM?
HugoXnaider said:
Thanks!
But how the multi-task function works then?
Only the active task will use CPU&RAM?
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Google is your friend here, but I think this article will give you the answers your looking for, even though it's focus is on something else, it explains ram management quite well...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-boosters-task-killers-bad-android/
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Hugo_Xnaider said:
Hello guys!
1-) About RAM management: Where can I check what's running in the background (and using my RAM)? And how can I "kill" all these applications rapidly?
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Have you tried ES Task Manager?
While I read these articles, just another question:
By clicking on the recents apps button (square) and dashing them to the left or right, am I killing them?
Thanks
HugoXnaider said:
While I read these articles, just another question:
By clicking on the recents apps button (square) and dashing them to the left or right, am I killing them?
Thanks
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Yes, but unless you have a very good reason to, don't.
I have one app I do this with, Pokémon Shuffle, because if I just home out instead of back out and close, it keeps my phone awake and it won't go into deep sleep.
Kernel RAM management since KitKat is very good most of the time, unless you have a very good reason just let the kernel do it's job.
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Running services is in developer options now if you really have to kill a pesky app
I generally kill apps like games, chrome, whats app, in the recent apps tab.
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I generally kill apps like games, chrome, whats app, in the recent apps tab.
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Killing Chrome and Whatsapp will only slow down opening them later... There is no other gain, same with games unless leaving them in the background prevents the device from sleeping. The kernel will kill the tasks when needed.
This isn't opinion, it's verifiable fact. Killing tasks manually has a negative effect on performance and battery life 99% of the time in modern Android devices.
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acejavelin said:
Killing Chrome and Whatsapp will only slow down opening them later... There is no other gain, same with games unless leaving them in the background prevents the device from sleeping. The kernel will kill the tasks when needed.
This isn't opinion, it's verifiable fact. Killing tasks manually has a negative effect on performance and battery life 99% of the time in modern Android devices.
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So, these apps wont "consume" CPU & RAM while background? I will never fell any performance issue (gaming) due to background applications running?
Hugo_Xnaider said:
So, these apps wont "consume" CPU & RAM while background? I will never fell any performance issue (gaming) due to background applications running?
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Correct, you should not... RAM is treated differently in Android (Linux) than Windows.
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acejavelin said:
Correct, you should not... RAM is treated differently in Android (Linux) than Windows.
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Ok, brother!
Thank you for your help! I appreciate it!
Since my questions about RAM are gone, i will test the performance using the games stocked in the SD card.
EDIT: Definitively, no difference between stock the game in internal, or SD. At least talking about framerate.
Hi
My Xperia Z5 compact has always been a bit of a disappointment re speed; really no improvement over the z2, in fact picture and camera loading is painfully slow.
There's a number of threads around commenting on the same issues so I've just lived with it.
Now I've just upgraded to Marshmallow, the new memory manager shows a whopping 1.7gb usage (total 1.8gb, a measly 41mb free!!!) and drilling down, Android OS is using 900mb.
The next biggest is android system and google play services at around 110 mb each and everything else is below 100mb.
I'm astonished Android OS is taking over half my ram just to run, and this is when I'm not doing anything major on my phone... Just a few SMS, bit of browsing and a lot of not being used time.
This, combined with the generally slow speed leads me to question is this normal?
What's the expected ram usage on this device?
Anything I can look at to reduce the OS ram? Ideally I'd look at a non stock rom to remove bloatware but as far as I know this phone isn't rootable yet? Or can I still get a more efficient rom on board?
Many thanks
Rob
Android ram management is different than Windows os,they say in Android that free ram is wasted ram,in other meaning android will free up ram when needed so you will always see high ram usage.
Is the compact not 3GB ram? Mine looks like this -
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The Z5 Compact is 2GB RAM (http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/specifications/)
Looks like the Z5 (non compact) is 3GB.
You guys are aware, that you can smash down the ram usage of your phones right??
I made my device - Z5 (non compact version) - go from using a whopping 2.7GB of the 3GB of RAM to only about 1.4-1.7GB RAM usage
How and does it improve performance?
rjbathgate said:
How and does it improve performance?
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Of course.
How, you ask?
Answer)
Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
Answer)
Indeed, and battery life.
TheTecXpert said:
Of course.
How, you ask?
Answer)
Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
Answer)
Indeed, and battery life.
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Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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Its probably the amount of bloatware installed in his phone, things like facebook and other wakelocks really hog the phone battery, theres a good guide here on the forums on how to preserve battery life all without losing performance.
Here you go
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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In sleep mode you will notice the difference.. But in general it does improve battery life by a bit.. Maybe for everybody else its different..
Just remember all the pre installed bloatware on the phone hog the ram and run in the background..
Especially the weather app/widget.. Thats a battery killer
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well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
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By normal, I mean force closing apps to save RAM. Normally they are just idling and using a little bit of RAM - doesn't hurt the battery. If the app is using the CPU a lot then there's probably a problem in the app and you should close it. Android has a pretty good RAM management system.
Getting rid of bloatware like Facebook ect is a good idea and will help your battery
Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
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Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
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Just disable the apps you don't use. That way they can't run for no reason using ram and system ota updates will still work fine
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