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[Q] What Hoggs Your Ram?

I would like to know what are your guys readings of RAM usage. Mine sits around 240MB/339MB
Is that high or normal? I do have quite a bit of widgets on different home screens so I dont know what the baseline is. Please share your results.

Good topic I was wondering this myself ...
Average ram I have is about 128MB free out off 339MB
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179mb out of 339
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moshe22 said:
179mb out of 339
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Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.

fknfocused said:
Wow, running widgets? maybe I should modify my running apps.
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No widgets running at the moment though.
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Task MAnagers!?!?!
I'm not sure if i am 100% right about this maybe won of the senior members who does know can enlighten us on this...
But I remember reading somewhere that task managers some times can hurt your phones RAM usage. I don't use one anymore unless it comes stock. and then I rarely find a reason to open it on mine. In standby I am running around 80-100 with 200-300 of freem RAM so with the SGS4G i don't think i will find a reason to use more than the stock utilities. I somtimes will installl a tool to monitor the RAM to see what I'm usin but every once in a while I go through and uninstall anything I don't need right away. I figure ussually being in good internet coverage I can always put something back.
So does anyone else know about wether or not the "Task Manager" could actually be a tantric in some cases?

moshe22 said:
No widgets running at the moment though.
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So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.

http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
Very good article about task killers
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Bassmanjames said:
So widgets are the ram hog on this phone? I have been constantly clearing ram in the task manager to help with speed. I only run clock, battery, and calender widgets on my device. Are they enough to boost me all the way to 240+ even after a RAM clearing? Considering the age of this thread is this still the case with new ROM's that are starting to roll out? I'm still stock, and very noob to android devices, but the urge for mods is growing given the positive responses to them.
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Well, this is def not the case anymore. I sit around 200MB free. Ever since cwm's final release the doors opened for us. Go get some love
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You shouldn't have to worry too much about RAM usage. A lot of it used by the OS. But yeah widgets does lower it and whatever app you're using. But I hope you don't resort to using task killers just to save 50mb's of RAM. It's there for use and shouldn't be looked at too much.
Mine shows about 400/626, but haven't noticed any big difference in battery drain when it's at 300/626.

Simple answer....everything hogs ram. The best way to tell what's worse is settings » applications » manage applications and watch your ram usage when you have certain things running. You will notice what is hogging more than others.
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Thank you for the info everybody. Been ruinning just fine all day with the ram almost maxed out, hard to break that task manager habit though lol. Goona keep reading before I root-flash-mod need to make sure I get it right the first time.
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Samsung and Tmo set many bloatware to run ALL the time and hogs RAM
via Linda file manager and auto memory manager (which tweak's android's memory management, not a standard task killer), i saw many apps that always run (many with priority equals to android system and the phone app) such as "wifi calling, visual voice mail, my account, qik, device management, drm, etc.
not everyone use these apps and they take up precious RAM and tiny amount of CPU cycles.
worse, however, is how the phone keeps loading unused, unaccessed, unwanted apps into memory (been weeks since I used pandora, yet it keeps getting reloaded into memory).
from clean boot, I get 150mb free. after a week, I get 45-55mb. This causes memory manager to kill off app as soon as you switch away and alot of stutter (dont you hate it when your browser gets killed)
Dont know if theres a fix for this. I tried tweaking the OOM parameters but it doesnt seem to work on this phone. Samsung probably tweaked something that broke this.

[Q] Ram...how low is too low?

I'm usually sitting on somewhere between 60-100MB of free RAM. Now keep in mind, I have LOTS of widgets running, a gorgeous theme, spb 3d launcher, etc...and I prefer to keep those things going, because that's how I get my value from my phone. I don't think the phone is slow by any means...but because I'm used to using Windows, I'm paranoid about low ram. Should I be worried, or is it fine as long as I'm not experiencing bad performance?
Moving some apps to my internal sd card wouldn't do anything about RAM, correct?

mmapcpro said:
I'm usually sitting on somewhere between 60-100MB of free RAM. Now keep in mind, I have LOTS of widgets running, a gorgeous theme, spb 3d launcher, etc...and I prefer to keep those things going, because that's how I get my value from my phone. I don't think the phone is slow by any means...but because I'm used to using Windows, I'm paranoid about low ram. Should I be worried, or is it fine as long as I'm not experiencing bad performance?
Moving some apps to my internal sd card wouldn't do anything about RAM, correct?
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I'm not an expert at all, but rather someone with the same question. As explained to me, the newer versions of android are most excellent in memory management. The need to manage memory, like in windows, is not there in newer versions.
With that said, being from windows, seeing low memory counts freak me out. I've been convinced by the people on this forum, to give it a try and not freak out. Avoid using task killers and such. Only thing I do is remove apps and Widgets I do not use. I've not regretted that advice.

It really all depends on what you are doing on the phone. If you only have 10 MB left, but are only checking emails, you are fine. But if you were to start playing a game from the terga zone, then you will have problems.
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aowendoff said:
It really all depends on what you are doing on the phone. If you only have 10 MB left, but are only checking emails, you are fine. But if you were to start playing a game from the terga zone, then you will have problems.
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Right, but, my understanding is, android will shutdown unused tasks to accommodate the need.
I learned with windows phone 7, there is a balance between live tiles, battery life, and performance. I assume that android has a similar premise. Do I need 40 Widgets on my desktop. What is the trade off if I do.
Again, I'm # noob to android...but this is how I'm proceeding.

Android keeps things in ram, which I would think is so apps can start up faster. If you are using something and it needs more ram than is free, android will remove something that isn't running to free memory. as far as too little, ram not being used is wasted. So just because you have a low amount free means nothing. The only thing that would be bad is if running services and apps needed more ram than the phone physically has. so just because there is little free means nothing really.

Read the article linked to in the first post of this thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678205
Pay special attention to the Addendum at the end where it talks specifically about the way Android/Linux handles memory.

what is so great about AOSP rom's?

i dont really know too much about AOSP rom's but from what i hear they are very basic.. what makes that so great? i really have no idea since ive never used a AOSP rom. just wanted to know cuz i always hear ppl talking about how great they are. thanks

They are true Android. Built clean from source code from the AOSP website and modified to work with the specific phone. Basically its how every Android phone should come but each manufacturer likes to mess with the software and add their own stuff.

i agree, AOSP is very minimalistic, thats why i prefer them over an other rom

They're fast. Pretty much the main reason anyone switches.

Like the unlock screens this phone came with, both of them sucked. The puzzle was annoying because I would miss the swipe about 15% of the time while the glass unlock screen was just bad looking. I don't see the big deal about AOSP seeing as i replace pretty much anything AOSP/stock anyway(messenger, lockscreen, browser etc). I get it's there for the simplicity and stability but it's just boring if you ask me.

duuurp said:
They're fast. Pretty much the main reason anyone switches.
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This.
Performance on aosp blows touchwiz out of the water any day.
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sneakysolidbake said:
This.
Performance on aosp blows touchwiz out of the water any day.
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ANYTHING blows touchwiz out of the water.
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kvswim said:
ANYTHING blows touchwiz out of the water.
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TW4 isn't bad :]

blarrick said:
TW4 isn't bad :]
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Visually, its a huge improvement over tw3 but that's only the launcher. The only things I like about tw are the music player, task manager, and calculator. That's it. Not worth the sacrifice of performance imo.
We (maybe just I) want aosp because it frees us from samsungs untimely and poorly written source code releases.
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AOSP is pure google experience. AOSP ROM's are google experience with developer tweaks.
It doesn't require many approval processes, so it runs the latest version of the O/S usually before phone manufacturers can get them out
It is very slim and minimalistic with it being highly customizable.
It comes minus any bloat, all source code is available, full wiki with instructions to remove any portion you want, teh ability to grab the source code and compile it yourself..etc.
Here is an example as far as bloat goes, I had the thunderbolt for a bit, CM7 checked in around 80ish mb. A sense rom was going around 400 mbish.

I'm assuming then that the RAM usage by the OS will decrease dramatically from what it is now?
Its crazy to me that this device sets aside almost 200mb for the OS anyway, yet on startup, another 200 is used up immediately (I rebooted and cleared memory just to see).
Just seems like a rather large footprint.

BleedsOrangeandBlue said:
I'm assuming then that the RAM usage by the OS will decrease dramatically from what it is now?
Its crazy to me that this device sets aside almost 200mb for the OS anyway, yet on startup, another 200 is used up immediately (I rebooted and cleared memory just to see).
Just seems like a rather large footprint.
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Android isn't like your pc operating system. Unused ram is wasted ram. Apps are loaded in the background so they open quicker when you use them. When the ram is too low it kills off some processes.
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sneakysolidbake said:
Android isn't like your pc operating system. Unused ram is wasted ram. Apps are loaded in the background so they open quicker when you use them. When the ram is too low it kills off some processes.
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Yea, I saw that response coming. I get how it works.
However, if you had more RAM to start with, more applications could be cached at a time which means your device will be opening more apps quickly. That's why I rebooted my phone before I provided numbers, because I'm asking about the RAM that the OS leaves free to actually do the caching.
Are you really trying to tell me that Android is so good that it wouldn't benefit from having more RAM available to it on startup?

BleedsOrangeandBlue said:
Yea, I saw that response coming. I get how it works.
However, if you had more RAM to start with, more applications could be cached at a time which means your device will be opening more apps quickly. That's why I rebooted my phone before I provided numbers, because I'm asking about the RAM that the OS leaves free to actually do the caching.
Are you really trying to tell me that Android is so good that it wouldn't benefit from having more RAM available to it on startup?
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No I get what you mean. This phone certainly does suffer from a lack of ram and aosp will help with that.
However, rebooting doesn't really tell you much about ram used by the os because it begins caching apps before it fully boots if I remember correctly.
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Lol, the more free RAM, the more efficient and faster your phone runs: for example, my old G1 with its limited RAM would freeze for 3 minutes if you tried its phone dial app, mind you it would happen almost randomly as the phone swapped out memory, oc'ing the g1 CPU made no difference since the bottleneck was the memory size. So, the more ram you have the better off you are.
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Typically the AOSP roms will be packaged together with a custom kernel built on mtd/yaffs which I believe to be the largest performance enhancer. The fact that the AOSP rom is minimal and has all the benefits as Utnapishtia mentioned just makes it that much faster because it's not burdened down with unnecessary garbage.

[Q] ICS update eating up the RAM

I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide

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I updated my atrix 2 with official ICS update 672.1.18.MB865.AsiaRetail.en.03 but found it to eat up all my RAM, normally i always had atleast 450-500mb free in normal state with the backgroud processes on, but after loading ICS i found my free RAM to be only 190mb-230mb. Does anyone face similar problem or know how how to rectify it???? I even uninstalled some of the Apps which work in background to get some of RAM back so i can play graphics heavy games, but it didn't help. Senior members please guide
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GB software was/is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea for some to stay on this release until the official OTA has been pushed and tested by the devs to check the possibilities for flashing back to GB - if at all. ICS is more intensive, for example, in terms of resource usage. As smartphones become more capable, our own applications, as well as the Google Mobile Services (GMS) applications, are becoming more advanced, which means that they require more CPU power, run more network activities and use more RAM, and full hardware acceleration also results in a need to load additional graphic libraries for certain apps, which makes them use even more RAM.
Another effect of the hardware acceleration is that it can make the battery drain faster in some cases. An example of this is video playback, where the hardware acceleration requires every video frame to be run through the GPU, thus making the system use more power than it would have without HW acceleration.
Out of your RAM, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory allotment to operate fast enough. For example, this is the case for certain multimedia functions. The remaining space, is reserved for the Android OS. Within the Android OS, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running.
When running low on RAM, typically with less than approximately 40MB left, the activity manager will start to close processes according to priority. At first, idle background activities are killed. The last thing to be closed down is the foreground activity.
Processes that are closed will obviously have to be restarted when the user enters the app again, which takes time and slows the system down. For example, when running a heavy game that uses all available RAM, the activity manager will be forced to kill all processes running in the background. This might include vital functions like the dialler and even the Home screen application. When you exit your game, there is a risk that the phone is perceived as slow, since the Home screen app will have to be restarted, just like every other activity you access afterwards.
Another interesting thing is that many apps use slightly more RAM in ICS. For example, the web browser is quite intensive, and uses 20-30MB more in ICS compared to GB. All in all, there are a lot of changes that together result in greater RAM requirements, and resource usage in ICS is heavier on the system compared to GB.

I've found that Android runs fine without having much free ram, if you think about it logically there is no need for free ram, if every bit of your ram is going to something then everything is going to work fine. My G2 has 366mb ram, about 40 of that is free right now, but the system still runs smoothly (mostly due to my 1.3ghz overclock), and I can multitask and play games just fine, Android manages memory very well. Keeping an eye on free ram isn't important, you should be worried if things start closing and the OS starts running very slowly tho. Is there more free ram with some of the mods in the development section? SCV7 and stuff?

To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware

Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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Good point, the bloatware and blurware definitely bogs down the phone, happens on pretty much all phones with manufacturer skins. Which is why CM and AOSP is so awesome.

How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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how is the battery life on ics? better or less than GB???

gvsukids said:
How does Jb compare to the memory useage of ics? Will it be better?
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I wouldn't hold your breath for JB on this device. I mean, for gripe's sake, look how long it's taking to get ICS for the A2. But, aside from this phone, CM10 on my S3 is flawless, I have absolutely no complaints. This phone, and this ROM, are perfection...
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i asked about gingerbread sir......comparison of battery life

For me i guess battery is draining just a little lesser in ICS than GB. Difference is not very huge but there its a slight improvement...also you can disable few background tasks...
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i have a similar problem but ...
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?

Archmag3 said:
To make it long story short,it being official firmware will have loads of bloatware and moto stuff that people hardly use.May be that is what is consuming your RAM.Just what I think.You can root and use Titanium backup to freeze/remove that bloatware
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surprisingly this OTA release is clean and neat with less such stock apps.. and if you want there is an option in the manage application (Settings -> Apps -> ALL) to "Disable" any such stock aps. I've disabled a few annoying running service for me, News and Weather, Facebook, Face Unlock, Social Location, Task etc..

Polycap said:
i recently just flashed the ICS Supercharged rom and each time i boot up there is a notification that says " Low on Space". well i read around forums and they were talking about not having enough RAM, i am also running ICS leak and i am using bootmenu to keep both kinda like a Virtual Box. Could i solve this problem ?
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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Battery life on ics is actually pretty good.. Running on sc7 leak 2 and my bat life for some reason has greatly improved compared to when I was on GB

would that mess up with my webtop
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I believe you have to format the webtop partition if you're using it for the 2nd system. I did that and had plenty of free space.
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would that still enable me to use my webtop

And The task manager which we had in gb is gone. That could do auto kills which was great.
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[Q] Ram usage.

I am currently running stock with franco kernel 32...
i always see that my ram consumption is always very high about 1 gb...
i have auto sync off and by using gravity box module i often clear all the apps but still i get this high ram usage.. the apps i use are mostly paid version and dont have adds. I use greenify as well but still usage is high..
in my cached processes google search and aosp keyboard consume around 100 mb of memory
will this affect my battery life.?
pls can someone help?

Don't worry. Android uses as much ram as it can. Unless you're seeing performance issues if just leave it alone.

Hi,
Nothing abnormal to have about 1Gb used (there was a thing about RAM usage in the last version if I remember right, but not with R32 so...).
Maybe not necessary to clear often the recent apps (nor useful).
Nothing to worry about your battery life.
You apps stays in memory for faster use, let Android manage its ram, with 2Gb (a bit less for user/app) it's enough...

Ram is supposed to be used. The old adage "free ram is useless ram" applies here.
The ram device itself will use power as all components will however, it is "always on" it doesn't matter if its 1MB or 1GB.... it's same power regardless.
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@JJD1639 thanks for the assurance man.. i thought it may cause battery drain.:good:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
@rootSU thanks u! ya i had heard that in linux as opposed to conventional windows belief its rather that free ram is wasted ram.. so even if i start a game a high requirement one the OS will do the job itself?

Yeo
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Sonone said:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
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No, what I mean is let your apps currently running like they are, in the recent apps. If a day you are really very low in memory for whatever reason (like 200-300Mb free for example) and you experience lags, reboot ant it's fine. But Android will do the necessary before (unless a "huge memory leak" like we have seen or some wrong memory management settings caused by a "RAM manager app" or some "magic RAM script").
My opinion was not about Greenify in particular, I have no opinion about it... If you need or want to hibernate them, do it, for the other apps, leave them running
Not sure if I explain myself well
If you want post some screenshots of your apps running and cache process to see, but with what you said it seems that there is nothing wrong...

viking37 said:
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No, what I mean is let your apps currently running like they are, in the recent apps. If a day you are really very low in memory for whatever reason (like 200-300Mb free for example) and you experience lags, reboot ant it's fine. But Android will do the necessary before (unless a "huge memory leak" like we have seen or some wrong memory management settings caused by a "RAM manager app" or some "magic RAM script").
My opinion was not about Greenify in particular, I have no opinion about it... If you need or want to hibernate them, do it, for the other apps, leave them running
Not sure if I explain myself well
If you want post some screenshots of your apps running and cache process to see, but with what you said it seems that there is nothing wrong...
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ya there is nothing wrong... its just that I am probably being a bit too curious for no reason...
i shall leave it to the OS memory management..I just checked there's no rogue app consuming memory.. the ones which are running seem quite justified!:good:
and please dude,i got you (explained well)and i really appreciate the support and help from all of you.. i post a thing and within a minute there are people to help..:highfive::angel:

Sonone said:
and please dude,i got you (explained well)and i really appreciate the support and help from all of you.. i post a thing and within a minute there are people to help..:highfive::angel:
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Yes, all seems good :good:
Curiosity is good and you're welcome

Sonone said:
@JJD1639 thanks for the assurance man.. i thought it may cause battery drain.:good:
@viking37 thanks,so u mean its better to leave them as they are. no need of hibernating them?
@rootSU thanks u! ya i had heard that in linux as opposed to conventional windows belief its rather that free ram is wasted ram.. so even if i start a game a high requirement one the OS will do the job itself?
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ps. this applies to pretty much all desktop OS's as well as mobile in the past 10 years or so.. linux, windows, osx etc.. 90% ram usage or more should be normal unless you have an insane amount of ram in the system.

nexusprouser said:
my ram booster keeps clearing my ram because it uses up to 1.6
any process I can shut down from default to stop it from clearing?
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Get rid of ram booster. You don't need it and it's causing more problems than it's fixing.

If I notice my device slow down, I click the button to switch apps and swipe them all closed.
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I should say, I don't need to worry about it on this phone.
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Sonone said:
I am currently running stock with franco kernel 32...
i always see that my ram consumption is always very high about 1 gb...
i have auto sync off and by using gravity box module i often clear all the apps but still i get this high ram usage.. the apps i use are mostly paid version and dont have adds. I use greenify as well but still usage is high..
in my cached processes google search and aosp keyboard consume around 100 mb of memory
will this affect my battery life.?
pls can someone help?
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Try this app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327541
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Ashcunak said:
ps. this applies to pretty much all desktop OS's as well as mobile in the past 10 years or so.. linux, windows, osx etc.. 90% ram usage or more should be normal unless you have an insane amount of ram in the system.
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memory management has not been a quite favourite subject of mine

Sonone said:
memory management has not been a quite favourite subject of mine
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Even on high end devices like nexus???
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Mr hOaX said:
Even on high end devices like nexus???
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i meant academically!

Sonone said:
i meant academically!
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Okay cool
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