Hi
My Xperia Z5 compact has always been a bit of a disappointment re speed; really no improvement over the z2, in fact picture and camera loading is painfully slow.
There's a number of threads around commenting on the same issues so I've just lived with it.
Now I've just upgraded to Marshmallow, the new memory manager shows a whopping 1.7gb usage (total 1.8gb, a measly 41mb free!!!) and drilling down, Android OS is using 900mb.
The next biggest is android system and google play services at around 110 mb each and everything else is below 100mb.
I'm astonished Android OS is taking over half my ram just to run, and this is when I'm not doing anything major on my phone... Just a few SMS, bit of browsing and a lot of not being used time.
This, combined with the generally slow speed leads me to question is this normal?
What's the expected ram usage on this device?
Anything I can look at to reduce the OS ram? Ideally I'd look at a non stock rom to remove bloatware but as far as I know this phone isn't rootable yet? Or can I still get a more efficient rom on board?
Many thanks
Rob
Android ram management is different than Windows os,they say in Android that free ram is wasted ram,in other meaning android will free up ram when needed so you will always see high ram usage.
Is the compact not 3GB ram? Mine looks like this -
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The Z5 Compact is 2GB RAM (http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z5-compact/specifications/)
Looks like the Z5 (non compact) is 3GB.
You guys are aware, that you can smash down the ram usage of your phones right??
I made my device - Z5 (non compact version) - go from using a whopping 2.7GB of the 3GB of RAM to only about 1.4-1.7GB RAM usage
How and does it improve performance?
rjbathgate said:
How and does it improve performance?
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Of course.
How, you ask?
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Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
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Indeed, and battery life.
TheTecXpert said:
Of course.
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Disable, clean app cache and app data and force stop ALL bloatware apps..
Does it improve performance?
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Indeed, and battery life.
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Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
Lambo16 said:
Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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Its probably the amount of bloatware installed in his phone, things like facebook and other wakelocks really hog the phone battery, theres a good guide here on the forums on how to preserve battery life all without losing performance.
Here you go
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Freeing RAM does normally not improve battery life performance much.
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In sleep mode you will notice the difference.. But in general it does improve battery life by a bit.. Maybe for everybody else its different..
Just remember all the pre installed bloatware on the phone hog the ram and run in the background..
Especially the weather app/widget.. Thats a battery killer
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well, what is normal ?
if you have several apps with wakelocks or background tasks - it surely DOES help
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By normal, I mean force closing apps to save RAM. Normally they are just idling and using a little bit of RAM - doesn't hurt the battery. If the app is using the CPU a lot then there's probably a problem in the app and you should close it. Android has a pretty good RAM management system.
Getting rid of bloatware like Facebook ect is a good idea and will help your battery
Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
rjbathgate said:
Hey
Thanks all. I'm keen to remove bloatware, but unless I'm mistaken I need root for that... And as far as I can see there is no solid solution to root for the z5 compact, is there?
Happy to be corrected!!
I'm used to cyanogenmod on my previous phones but so far I've seen no real options on this phone so currently still on stock.
Thanks
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Just disable the apps you don't use. That way they can't run for no reason using ram and system ota updates will still work fine
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Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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spectacle said:
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.
abet1017 said:
If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
eejin2 said:
if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
androidlover123 said:
ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.
i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.
hi, ive been succesfully rooted my samsung galaxy gio s5660m and now im looking forward for my ram expansion and internal memory.. someone can help me for this topic? tnx a lot
badagila said:
hi, ive been succesfully rooted my samsung galaxy gio s5660m and now im looking forward for my ram expansion and internal memory.. someone can help me for this topic? tnx a lot
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You need to go here to download the extra RAM for your device - if it's compatible.
Ram
SimonTS said:
You need to go here to download the extra RAM for your device - if it's compatible.
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is it 100% safe? tnx
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I don't think you can download RAM.. I know you can add RAM cards on computers and laptops but they have certain limitations(plus, they are hardware which you have to buy and apply correctly).. and on an android phone I'm not sure.. so if you could provide more details it would be great.
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but you have any idea how to increase ram in a safe way? do you already root your cell phone?
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i have rooted a sgs2 and a htc sensation xe.
You can't increase RAM without the hardware (again, as far as i know). the only thing you can do is to use less RAM, thus making the device faster and more effective. try freezing the apps that you are not using with titanium back-up. a lot of apps work on background and you don't even need them. by freezing them, you prevent them from auto-starting. you can unfreeze them to make them work again. (you need to be rooted for this)
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And then we get into the old falacy that "Free RAM is good". This is simply NOT true on Android. If you start running too short on free RAM then the Android system starts to kill applications to free up more RAM, but RAM is there to be used.
badagila said:
is it 100% safe? tnx
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Ahahahaha :')
@OP I don't know if this'll work on your phone but on the HD2 at least you could create a swap partition on your SD card then flash a zRam script to increase RAM.
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So you are saying it is bad/useless to kill/freeze unused background applications?
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Useless? Not necessarily, as long as you know what you are doing and are 100% certain about the apps you are freezing. However, I have never seen any real benefit in doing so. The Android built-in task manager normally does a failry good job of managing the memory without any real intervention.
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Useless? Not necessarily, as long as you know what you are doing and are 100% certain about the apps you are freezing. However, I have never seen any real benefit in doing so. The Android built-in task manager normally does a failry good job of managing the memory without any real intervention.
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Actually I personally have found that killing apps on devices with low RAM makes the phone feel a lot faster.
Nigeldg said:
Actually I personally have found that killing apps on devices with low RAM makes the phone feel a lot faster.
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Manually killing them is something I do as well. I just don't buy into the task-killer type apps.
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I was suggesting freezing and killing unused apps on background because on phones with low RAM (his gio has less than 512 MB of ram) system is laggy, mostly because of pre-installed software which users don't use. He said he has just rooted his phone, therefore he can't have uninstalled the network carrier apps/social networks apps, which may be running on background. And in my experience as an android user, if anything is laggy or stops working, i restart the phone. And after restarting it always works smoother.
About the android built-in task manager, it does indeed do a good job, but on 2.x android versions is a little harder to find and use. thanks for replies
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Freezing / killing the apps as root can be useful, but as I said you need to be certain what apps you are freezing and why. How many times have you read on XDA from someone who has frozen a load of the 'Background' apps, and then finds their device won't even boot up and they have to do a full flash to recover, often losing a load of data as well?
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Nigeldg said:
Ahahahaha :')
@OP I don't know if this'll work on your phone but on the HD2 at least you could create a swap partition on your SD card then flash a zRam script to increase RAM.
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my phone is samsung galaxy gio s5660m and yes i rooted
So... My J performs a little... bad. Most likely that I got that retarded faulty one. My RAM is never above 150mb free, mostly around 100mb. Antutu benchmark was around 4000 if I remeber correctly. Games are not performing well (and I'm not talking about über games). FreeCiv crashes quite often, probably because lack of RAM. Etc. Is it known to be like that? I'm all stock and JB. Would CM10 help me? And also, what is that actually? What does it change?
Thank you.
CM10 will help, i think that. For me, help a lot, just try, i will never back on stock, its my opinion. Try the new version FXP220 for J.
Games like Ravensword2 or other 3D working well.
I'm running stock JB and root my phone, then delete some useless applications like Facebook, Timescapes etc. Now my phone running fast & smooth, I've use cm10 for sometimes but its not as smooth as stock rom, and my first concern is the camera quality,
Stock rom has like 10x better quality.
Also stock rom has better battery performance.
not trying to have negative tendency to CM10 or something,but its just a comparison based on my experience.
If you want to use cm10 its your call :thumbup:
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There are lots of mods you can do if you would like to stay on stock install V6 SuperCharger + boost my xperia app they work really well together. Like mikey000 said uninstall or freeze unwanted apps google maps and facebook are the biggest ram eaters and as soon as you have killed them in running services they restart almost instantly. and have as little widgets as possible on the desk top will help aswell.
Depends on games too sometimes.
Subway surfers lags like hell but most wanted is really smooth for me. Poorly optimised games need better hardware
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you should try CM10 .
free up lot of memory space.
i love it CM10 <3
Fyroxman said:
So... My J performs a little... bad. Most likely that I got that retarded faulty one. My RAM is never above 150mb free, mostly around 100mb. Antutu benchmark was around 4000 if I remeber correctly. Games are not performing well (and I'm not talking about über games). FreeCiv crashes quite often, probably because lack of RAM. Etc. Is it known to be like that? I'm all stock and JB. Would CM10 help me? And also, what is that actually? What does it change?
Thank you.
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You should know that free Ram means wasted Ram.
Read this http://www.rt-embedded.com/blog/archives/linux-memory-consumption/
Now... Some are saying to use CM10, while others say the opposite.
Fyroxman said:
Now... Some are saying to use CM10, while others say the opposite.
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just give it a shot, you'll notice how after you tried
Fyroxman said:
Now... Some are saying to use CM10, while others say the opposite.
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first of all think of what you want from your phone and then decide
If u want smoothness in your ui and overall performance root you phone and deleted some unwanted bloatware system apps
if u don't care about smoothness but favour performance go with cynaogen mod as its a minimal ui and much better performance...
PS cyanogenmod is just stock pure android with lot of customization options from overclocks to performance tweaks
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first of all think of what you want from your phone and then decide
If u want smoothness in your ui and overall performance root you phone and deleted some unwanted bloatware system apps
if u don't care about smoothness but favour performance go with cynaogen mod as its a minimal ui and much better performance...
PS cyanogenmod is just stock pure android with lot of customization options from overclocks to performance tweaks
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And what about V6 supercharger (or whatever it's called)? Would it help any of these options?
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And what about V6 supercharger (or whatever it's called)? Would it help any of these options?
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Those are basically performance scripts which provide various performance tweaks like ram management and all
I would suggest if ur a newbie to root and stuff u root and delete bloarware apps and see the performance if ur not satisfied flash custom rom like cyanogenmod and then if still not happy then play with scripts like v6 as scripts are bit complex
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layup23 said:
You should know that free Ram means wasted Ram.
Read this http://www.rt-embedded.com/blog/archives/linux-memory-consumption/
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That's not totally right a percentage of ram is set aside for user apps and games which are never cached by the system so the free ram is needed and heavy games need a lot of free ram to run propperly. Evan cached system processes are killed after 30 minutes by android by default so free ram will change up & down as its killing processes just to restart them again the system is wasting ram. Zepplinrox's v6 supercharger changes this as one of it's features from 30 minutes to 24 hours so the system uses less ram and has more free ram for user apps and games.
Running the scripts is not rocket science there really easy read the original thread if that seems intimidating then read the noob tutorial which goes through step by step.
Hi all
I am Quite new to rooting. Started about 5 months ago.
Am currently using the below ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...velopment/aurora-n900-5-3mixs6-n5-z5-t3298434
My issues is that my RAM usage is constantly very high.
Over 80%.
I have greenified most of the apps.
Lagfix done and increased the speed slightly but RAM usage is still very high
Anyone can assist with the reason why and what I can do to reduce RAM usage and make the phone faster?
Thanks in advance
K
Post a screenshot of your application manager so we can see if there any apps that use an abnormal amount of ram.
It's worth to mention that more unused ram won't make your device faster. If you're having performance issues you should post it in the rom thread and ask for help.
If you are on Lollipop so yeah The Ram usage of lollipop is very high as compare to Kitkat......try some custom rom with less Ram usage!
Thank you for your responses.
Unfortunately the ROM thread is closed so I cant post there
Main issue is the slow speed of the phone.
Any advise will be appreciated
kevlinho said:
Thank you for your responses.
Unfortunately the ROM thread is closed so I cant post there
Main issue is the slow speed of the phone.
Any advise will be appreciated
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Try uninstalling bloatwares which you dont use!it will also help a bit.
wajid iqbal said:
Try uninstalling bloatwares which you dont use!it will also help a bit.
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which specific bloatware would you recommend I remove and would be safe to remove without causing any stability issues?
Read this thread...all about bloatware which are safe to remove.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2770729
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High RAM usage is not a problem on Android, unlike Windows.
Android will free up RAM on it's own if necessary. Apps are kept in RAM as long as there is available memory to allow faster app start-up. Should there be larger need for RAM, older apps are removed from RAM.
I have an Unlocked bootloader, latest v33 kernel, and build 253, my androidOS sometimes goes high to 1.0gb usage, is this normal?
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mr_negative16 said:
I have an Unlocked bootloader, latest v33 kernel, and build 253, my androidOS sometimes goes high to 1.0gb usage, is this normal?
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Yes its normal.My Z5 now have 900mb in Android OS.
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Thanks to both of you
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Thanks to both of you
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Everyone should know this by now, DO NOT USE ram cleaning apps, they are USELESS. Leave android to deal with the memory management, android is rather good at it . Ram cleaning apps just waste battery and cause instability. Higher memory usage is better because it means more things are cached in the ram for faster overall performance. Just ignore the memory usage.
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Everyone should know this by now, DO NOT USE ram cleaning apps, they are USELESS. Leave android to deal with the memory management, android is rather good at it . Ram cleaning apps just waste battery and cause instability. Higher memory usage is better because it means more things are cached in the ram for faster overall performance. Just ignore the memory usage.
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Is it true that if you use greenify, and it hibernated facebook ( for example), will it waste more battery to open facrbook?
Just bought the phone yesterday. I got lots of ram used too...
Dont worry about used ram.Android Os by self use Ram memory,fill and clean by OS needs.
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mr_negative16 said:
Is it true that if you use greenify, and it hibernated facebook ( for example), will it waste more battery to open facrbook?
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Greenify is an exception, it works fine
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Vengeance66 said:
Just bought the phone yesterday. I got lots of ram used too...
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Don't bother about it,its normal.