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[Q] Low RAM?

Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery level. these were the apps that i downloaded just before the raam went low. oh and i only have 4 widgets running on my screen. (google search widget, power control widget (the one with options to toggle wifi, bluetooth etc etc on and off), a go taskmanager widget to show me how much ram i have and a music app widget) BTW im rooted running stock 2.1. Hope someone can help me!

If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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DarkMD said:
If you want more free ram try to upgrade your phone into 2.2 custom rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943368
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oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?

androidlover123 said:
oh lol i was already planning to go for the xda special but i just wanted to find out why suddenly the ram went down on my stock 2.1. any idea?
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must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.

eejin2 said:
must've been the services or processes running hidden in the background. there are some apps you can use to kill or stop them. but mainly i just use autokiller memory optimizer to modify android's default app killer to kill apps even when the ram is not very low(it kills apps when ram reaches a certain level). theres also a function in autokiller memory optimizer which allows you to kill processes. if you want more ram, you could use swap too, but it eats more battery, so i dont.
its a good app, and you dont have to use any task killers anymore. you can use the strict preset in the app if you want higher free ram. swap if you activate swap, you could go up to more than 100m free.
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oh ya i forgot to mention i have already been using autokiller memory optimizer at strict level for a month already. yesterday i changed it to aggressive hoping that my ram would increase but to no avail.

then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?

eejin2 said:
then it'd be that you have to many processes running it in the background. see from autokiller memory optimizer. just tap to close. swap gives you a LOT of free ram also. but you have to be using a swap compatible rom of course, so stock but rooted, no. unless u are using the eclair strikes back rom. im also on stock singapore but rooted. average free ram now is around 50 and im underclocked running at 500mhz cos i wanna save battery. its still running smoothly. actually, i dont really care about how much free ram there is, if its smooth then its all right for me. is your phone running smoothly?
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huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)

androidlover123 said:
huh no sadly D: every time i launch app then i exit that app, it will take about 3-5 sec for home page to load. It wasnt like that a week ago. (then it was very fast to return to screen-no lag at all.) btw im using go launcher.(it was there a month ago and had no lag at all until last week)
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Try to clean cache frequently, that help to
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My suggestion would be to flash the stock Cincinnati bell sbf. I did that recently it is the most updated one from Motorola and is set at 720 MHz by default. I don't use anything and my ram is around 55-60. Smooth as hell. I use launcherpro. Its prettier, you can choose the keep in memory option which stops it from redrawing the screen. Mine is rooted. I get a day and half of battery life with wifi and autosync in 100% of the time, an hour of GPS, 1 hour gaming, one hour music and the odd texts or calls. Hope that helps. Nothing in my opinion beats stock 2.1
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I use CyanogenMod 6 and its pretty nice... i have around 70-80 mb of ram free... btw i have about 25 apps instaled...
Overclock at: 1.1ghz @ 70vsel
Sorry for my bad english jaja
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androidlover123 said:
Im not sure why but in the past week, my phone ram was was quite low. (30m - 45m) Before that, even after playing games and stuff, the ram was always above 55m. I have the go sms app, i have lookout running always and battery notifier (big text) to tell me my battery......
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If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....

Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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spectacle said:
Go to cm6. Can't stop saying how smooth and snappy it is
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I agree..... but there are still several issues to fix.... I'm waiting for the final product..... Great work by Mioze.

abet1017 said:
If you have 30m-45m ram and it didn't affect the performance of the phone, then nothing to worry....now if your rom is in the 2.1 stock, you have a problem especially in using camcorder due to low memory... my suggestion is to flash the 2.2 rom like wahhu rom, xda special or the cm6...My ram is in the range of 30m-60m and I'm using the wanhu rom and even the cm6 rom still the performance of the phone is great..... Actually there is something in the phone that eats the ram..... It is one of the reasons why there is a problem in porting the cm7.
P.S. Try to flash the original wanhu rom then apply the latest update of Mioze-update-SC_2.2_XT720_Beta3a-Mz05 and the dark froyo theme.....
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Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.

androidlover123 said:
Ya i remember last time i use camcorder my phone had frozen. (nothing was responding. after 5 min i decided to battery pull then after that all apps started to force close, including launcherpro, so i could not do anything with my phone and had to uninstall launcherpro to solve problem. I really want to stay on stock 2.1 cos it has no issues at all until recently the ram problem which was slowing the phone down a lot. even at 1ghz 66vsel and autokill memory optimizer at strict level its quite low ram.
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if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?

eejin2 said:
if the ram is still low after all these trying out all these suggestions, why dont you try wiping everything and starting again?
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ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!

androidlover123 said:
ya that was kind of my last resort.... but since no one can find a solution for this, i just do that. Thanks to all for their help!
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If you are going to do it from scratch, I suggest you use the cincinnati bell sbf. I have had a very good experience with that. Root with universal androot 1.6.2 beta. After that install open recovery and youre set.

i have about 60 applications installed and here a screen shot of a very comon amount of ram i have in mafia wars when done any were from 95 to 110 i have availble for use.

Anyone else with poor 3d performance on MIUI when compared to other roms?

Hi
I am using Brainmaster's MIUI(the GB one) and i have tested both shadowgun and gta 3 in this rom and on ICS, CM7 and Oxygen.
On MIUI the performance is significantly worse. Is it the rom?maybe because it uses more ram or something. I have already deleted the file "libGLES_android.so" to improve performance and tried a new kernel but still have poor gaming performance when compared to other roms.
Can someone help me?
Thanks

i think it is because MIUI has more pretty UI , yes , more UI occupies more GPU resources
just like windows XP , if you compare XP theme (default of XP)and classic theme (that old one of win98 , Me or 2000 ) , you will feel great different about performance

So if there was an app that disabled Miui UI during gameplay(or something like that) then i would be able to play without performance loss?
I really like MIUI rom and its functionalities but this performance issue is bad=/.
Even with oc at 1.2 its still worse than other roms at 1.0...

in theory u would be right

try going into the main phone settings, developer settings, then enable "force gpu rendering".

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try going into the main phone settings, developer settings, then enable "force gpu rendering".
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He's in GB doesn't have force Gpu
Try disabled high quality draw
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thanks for the help guys, but i dont want a pretty rom(even if it has some useful features) if it affects performance this much. I thought that it wouldn't affect much because i still get a lot of free ram. Even tried ram manager pro in high gaming mode but it didn't help so i went back to ics.

migueldbr said:
thanks for the help guys, but i dont want a pretty rom(even if it has some useful features) if it affects performance this much. I thought that it wouldn't affect much because i still get a lot of free ram. Even tried ram manager pro in high gaming mode but it didn't help so i went back to ics.
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i have been running MIUI back in GB time with no such problem as you.
disable high-quality drawer, and use GO launcher ex, this is what i did , pretty good

qtwrk said:
i have been running MIUI back in GB time with no such problem as you.
disable high-quality drawer, and use GO launcher ex, this is what i did , pretty good
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hum...maybe you didnt notice it?i only notice this in games that use serious gpu power, like shadowgun, gta3 etc...
anyway if i get back to the rom i will keep that in mind and try out the things you said.
thanks

i have "Heavy gun" and "Asphalt6" in my phone , except first few seconds have lag, and then all goes well

Try installing Chainfire3D from Market. It might help.

[Q] How much available RAM is usable?

if you enable the Task Manager widget how much RAM do you have when your not running any Apps, how much Ram is available on average with no apps running

well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.

xstokerx said:
well i have from 200 to 250 free ram with nothing running but i striped my phone right down to just the apps and stuff i use it took a bit of trial and error but runs awsome now.
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Same here. Never seen it go above 248. I still have some tweaking to do so that might change.
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wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?

No apps running 300-322 mb!!! Cm7
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xtian63 said:
wow what the hell mine is always at 130mb with no apps running, i have an INternational version of the O3D, anny suggestions?
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With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).

botson71 said:
With everything stock, the RAM is 130MB or even less. In normal use, the RAM management of the stock ROMs is very bad. I get down to 50-70MB before it starts killing apps which results to lag.
The solution is simple but it involves rooting and/or installing custom ROMs. With the stock ROM just remove apps you don't need (there is a full list of the apps in a dedicated thread here). Or install a custom ROM (best for RAM management is CM7 but you will lose most of the 3D functionality).
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wow thanks atleast i know my O3D has no problems with ram, well its normal so time to root and manage apps

Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well

mines 130~140 with 3 screens full of widgets all teh way from showing cpu clock, ram, internal sd, external sd, weather, text time app folders etc to xboxlive stats, facebook, opera favorites etc. Since it's o/c'd to 1.3ghz on acura v21D it's still quite fast.

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Mine around 200-240mb but above 120mb there is no lagg at all. fast reboot is really doing its job well
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200-240MB with the stock ROMs or with a custom ROM?

Anyone tried the app GameBooster?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.burakgon.gamebooster&hl=en_GB
I know that the same changes can be achieved through other (free) means , but i was wondering if anyone tried it?.. i have a friend that swears it works.

Yeah I have it on my phone and I'm using it together with Ram Booster v1.25 (need to test it without the latter to see just how much that contributes). The result is I'm playing NOVA 3 in all it's full HD glory with very little lag. The game does run a 'tad' bit slower in general but because it's uniform throughout the game it just feels like it's the way it's meant to be played.

Really? Wow thats great to hear , i might buy it to see if its really worth it.
Have you tried using autokiller , ram manager or V6 supercharger though?

Looks interesting. Would love to see if there's a free alternative though.

Okay maybe its a placebo effect , but im getting playable framerates when i use it in combination with Ram Manager pro on hard gaming, playing The Amazing Spiderman . AFAIK Gamebooster also does something similar to RMP , but it seems to be less agressive .
I also have supercharger , but i only use it to lock my launcher , nothing else.

Hey Drivenby, been a long and busy day at the studio so haven't had an opportunity to get back to you till now. Haven't used autokiller , ram manager or V6 supercharger, will have a look at them. I am using Chainfire 3D Pro however to increase the graphical quality of some of my games (like NOVA 3), but you probably figured that already.

This all shuts down all the other apps and even prevents the them from trying to boot and regains system memory.
It has its own overcloked setting after ultra gaming mode but I then can normally be change it. I really recommend this app.
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Tried it with Metal Slug 3 but got to the same bit as I usually get to before the phone starts lagging like hell (Was In Ultra Mode Aswell)

Yeah it really depends on what type of system you are running . The app does work for some games but its obviously not adding more ram or doing the developers job of optimizing a game for our specific GPU . Some games do seem to work better with Ram Manager Pro on hardgaming , rather than Gameboost.
And ultra doesnt really overclock , it just sets the governor to performance , as far as i can tell. The dev claims it lowers other processes too but i dont know how to check if thats true or not.

on my opinion , gamebooster is better that rambooster and ram manager, it decreased glitch on my phone , now it's easy to play BATMAN

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Yeah it really depends on what type of system you are running . The app does work for some games but its obviously not adding more ram or doing the developers job of optimizing a game for our specific GPU . Some games do seem to work better with Ram Manager Pro on hardgaming , rather than Gameboost.
And ultra doesnt really overclock , it just sets the governor to performance , as far as i can tell. The dev claims it lowers other processes too but i dont know how to check if thats true or not.
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The Governor is set to performance And cru speed changed to 1.2Ghz
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I honestly doubt that an app can overclock my stock kernel so easily.
Besides , Rom manager shows 1024 and gover performance. Nothing about 1.2ghz

This app made some games that ran smooth blotchy when I set to hardcore. I have been running v6 for a long time so it may be fighting each other for control. Hard to say. Still thanks for sharing. Sure a lot of people will like this app while others maybe not so much
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Yeah about v6, AFAIK it changes the oom kill values, which game booster does too, so there might be some conflict.
On my experience v6 is excellent to increase performance with the Android ui and multitasking, it makes everything really snappy but at a cost.
Let's say you have the regular stock launcher and have 3 o 4 widgets and a billion icons... If you have supercharge your launcher you might make it nearly impossible for the system to kill when needed.
I think that running most games, you should have no problem with this, but with the likes of recent game loft games that are known resource hogs, you really need everything the device has to offer, and while killing the launcher might make your device post game laggy for a couple of seconds, the whole point of the xperia play is to play games and if you can't do that well, it kinda defeats the purpose.
Right now I'm trying to keep the lightest configuration possible, while still getting everything I need and more.
Currently using lightning launcher, because it's fast, simple and runs with as little as 6 mb. Only one widget too. I guess I could try super charging it, but android has never killed it that I noticed, or maybe it just redraws super quickly.
Personally went back to ram manager pro, I think the ultra settings for game booster are not optimal for gaming or something, I swear I'm getting more ram but less performance, which doesn't really makes sense but whatever.
Also it has a couple of bugs that need to be ironed out. I'll check it again when the next version comes out.
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Will this work with phone with locked boot loaders but rooted? I really want to know because it said of but I have a stock kernel but I'm rooted.

LAcube said:
Will this work with phone with locked boot loaders but rooted? I really want to know because it said of but I have a stock kernel but I'm rooted.
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Yea it will work no problem
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version 1.4 is out

Could anyone make test in benchamrk? With and without this program?
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i can't actually disable it. it just doesn't work. >.>

nieohl said:
i can't actually disable it. it just doesn't work. >.>
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Yes it worked. If it can't work try reinstalling busybox.
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Dalvin.VM.Heapside

i just change i9001 Dalvin.VM.Heapside from 64 to 357 mb and the phone is faster.., aps are launching faster .and i have.minimun lag ...i am using stock GB rom no other tweks are made , i only cange the GPU drivers from i8150

freemanandrei87 said:
i just change i9001 Dalvin.VM.Heapside from 64 to 357 mb and the phone is faster.., aps are launching faster .and i have.minimun lag ...i am using stock GB rom no other tweks are made , i only cange the GPU drivers from i8150
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and have bad multitasking

murad777 said:
and have bad multitasking
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i didn nothis ani problem..only when i had cange it to 1024 i didn boot and when it was at 256 it was laging .. i got in antutu 3803 and quadrant 1357 .......i am runing aps like usual facebook messenger ..muzic player ...and gta 3 is better playbel now

freemanandrei87 said:
i didn nothis ani problem..only when i had cange it to 1024 i didn boot and when it was at 256 it was laging .. i got in antutu 3803 and quadrant 1357 .......i am runing aps like usual facebook messenger ..muzic player ...and gta 3 is better playbel now
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how did u do it?Did u use rom toolbox

And this belongs in the development section why?
My recommendation to you is to lower that back. The way it works is that it allows an application to store a maximum of that much memory. Setting it high would force it to garbage collect much later which means more CPU cycles for the app. Bad thing is low RAM and bad multitasking as said by murad. Setting it low would cause it to garbage collect much sooner so better multitasking but worse performance. Overall this doesn't really affect performance that much unless making an app use up the whole of the phone like OP did which is an obviously bad thing.
64 is good and don't change it unless you are just testing.

Xistance said:
And this belongs in the development section why?
My recommendation to you is to lower that back. The way it works is that it allows an application to store a maximum of that much memory. Setting it high would force it to garbage collect much later which means more CPU cycles for the app. Bad thing is low RAM and bad multitasking as said by murad. Setting it low would cause it to garbage collect much sooner so better multitasking but worse performance. Overall this doesn't really affect performance that much unless making an app use up the whole of the phone like OP did which is an obviously bad thing.
64 is good and don't change it unless you are just testing.
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i dont understand its running better and it was never that fast and i have no more wake uo lag and everythin is loding realy fast ...i chage it from build.prop whit root browser.....and i just try to run 3 smol games in the same time and lissen muzic ...and i didn get lag when i run ups in task manager the ram is use 315 mb.....

Very bad idea to take all the system ram and put it in dalvik heap.. way to much.. 64mb is default, if you take all ram for heap then everything will be preloaded by default. this may result in some faster loading times but the memory is constantly unnecessarily filled. when you have 315mb in use your almost at the limit.. think about it, any app that suddenly requires more ram will lack the ability to get it. And I'm not even mentioning LMK that is also active (so you force your memory to be full and lmk keeps killing apps since its full). This is how i think about it.
edit: just read that you don't use any specific lmk, so i guess that's lmk 20mb or so. still your idea just doesn't work out

Dude...way to big...usually the modders only use 140m max..but still not quite supported for multitasking...anyway not wrong to experiment it....cheers...
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gjoy77 said:
Dude...way to big...usually the modders only use 140m max..but still not quite supported for multitasking...anyway not wrong to experiment it....cheers...
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I set it back to 64Mb ....i nothis that aps when are open usual use ram betwen 50 to 100 and more .

freemanandrei87 said:
I set it back to 64Mb ....i nothis that aps when are open usual use ram betwen 50 to 100 and more .
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Try 96m....i think that should be good enough to try...
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gjoy77 said:
Try 96m....i think that should be good enough to try...
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is runing normal know i just change it so i can run better gta 3 at hie seting