Anyone else with poor 3d performance on MIUI when compared to other roms? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi
I am using Brainmaster's MIUI(the GB one) and i have tested both shadowgun and gta 3 in this rom and on ICS, CM7 and Oxygen.
On MIUI the performance is significantly worse. Is it the rom?maybe because it uses more ram or something. I have already deleted the file "libGLES_android.so" to improve performance and tried a new kernel but still have poor gaming performance when compared to other roms.
Can someone help me?
Thanks

i think it is because MIUI has more pretty UI , yes , more UI occupies more GPU resources
just like windows XP , if you compare XP theme (default of XP)and classic theme (that old one of win98 , Me or 2000 ) , you will feel great different about performance

So if there was an app that disabled Miui UI during gameplay(or something like that) then i would be able to play without performance loss?
I really like MIUI rom and its functionalities but this performance issue is bad=/.
Even with oc at 1.2 its still worse than other roms at 1.0...

in theory u would be right

try going into the main phone settings, developer settings, then enable "force gpu rendering".

simms22 said:
try going into the main phone settings, developer settings, then enable "force gpu rendering".
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He's in GB doesn't have force Gpu
Try disabled high quality draw
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thanks for the help guys, but i dont want a pretty rom(even if it has some useful features) if it affects performance this much. I thought that it wouldn't affect much because i still get a lot of free ram. Even tried ram manager pro in high gaming mode but it didn't help so i went back to ics.

migueldbr said:
thanks for the help guys, but i dont want a pretty rom(even if it has some useful features) if it affects performance this much. I thought that it wouldn't affect much because i still get a lot of free ram. Even tried ram manager pro in high gaming mode but it didn't help so i went back to ics.
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i have been running MIUI back in GB time with no such problem as you.
disable high-quality drawer, and use GO launcher ex, this is what i did , pretty good

qtwrk said:
i have been running MIUI back in GB time with no such problem as you.
disable high-quality drawer, and use GO launcher ex, this is what i did , pretty good
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hum...maybe you didnt notice it?i only notice this in games that use serious gpu power, like shadowgun, gta3 etc...
anyway if i get back to the rom i will keep that in mind and try out the things you said.
thanks

i have "Heavy gun" and "Asphalt6" in my phone , except first few seconds have lag, and then all goes well

Try installing Chainfire3D from Market. It might help.

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best i9003 rom like i9000

hi there,
im lookin for best rom for i9003 which is smooth as i9000. i used xxkb3, xeke1, jpke1,xxkp9, xxkp7 and xxkpe. non of them smooth like i9000. i used lagfix and also usin ext4 fs now. but still its not smooth. any suggest appreciate. thnx.
edit.correction.i9003->i9000
Try out XXKPH, If you are looking for a GB version and XXKB3 for Froyo..They are most stable versions..You do not need lagfix on KPH! It is pretty fast!!!
Isn't this a more general topic than a dev?
ozorens said:
hi there,
im lookin for best rom for i9003 which is smooth as i9003. i used xxkb3, xeke1, jpke1,xxkp9, xxkp7 and xxkpe. non of them smooth like i9000. i used lagfix and also usin ext4 fs now. but still its not smooth. any suggest appreciate. thnx.
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try custom roms which are free from samsung apps.
...Samsung apps has free ROMs?
Misledz said:
...Samsung apps has free ROMs?
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No, try custom rom without samsung applications
Wait new release of my rom if you want less samsung applications in your device
What about removing Maps, It eats up quite alot of RAM. Any noticable glitches with it removed?
I have removed many applications like swype, aldiko , layar and replaced music player with the latest miui player and 3d gallery with the motion 3d gallery and many more
hi again,
@Misledz,
i know it is not dev topic but there is no general page for i9003. thats why i write here, im sorry.
i use maps and i think it has to run smooth with those programs, it has 1ghz cpu.
guys those two phones have same cpu and i really dont understand how is that difference. my friend has i9000, he doesnt install any custom-new roms, lagfix, battery saver, ram cleaner etc. still no has lag.
but my i9003 has ext4, same cpu, battery saver, ram cleaner and still has lag.
im really tired to try roms, installin programs again and again.
Mine's stock - no root, no ext4, etc. and i'm not experiencing any lag on XXKPH. Get rid of the "battery saver" and "RAM cleaner" and see how you go i guess.
jamsori said:
Mine's stock - no root, no ext4, etc. and i'm not experiencing any lag on XXKPH. Get rid of the "battery saver" and "RAM cleaner" and see how you go i guess.
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Very true, those battery saver and clean up thingos drain battery and eat RAM and therefore slow your device down. Just keep a close eye on what you have running in the background (make running service shortcut on homescreen and stop apps you dont need at the time for example), have a simple taskkiller (i use advanced task killer) that autokills apps at user defined time intervals and close apps properly (using back-key and not homekey).
Should help a lot with the lag and increase batter time significantly.
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@ ozorens
dude both phones are different and the cpu of both phones are different
ok now i have fresh xxkph, cfroot and cwm. its not bad. but i didnt know i9000 and i9003 usin different cpu. so gsmarena gives wrong info.
thnx for everyone especialy kkrraazzyy for show me main problem. have to buy s2

Modern Combat 3 lag for anyone else?

MC3 has always lagged for me no matter what. At first I thought it was because I was running stock rom + stock kernal.
I finally grew some balls and flashed NExus 4 + Faux's overclock kernal and even with it fully overclocked at 1.7ghz, and running at that speed with no other applications running I still get lag..
Is the skyrocket really not powerful enough for that game lol? I know its most likely the most demanding game + the best graphics but its really annoying.
All other games work fine xD
since u flashed that, try mhx superlite 5, and under developper options in settings set "force gpu rendering" to on, and re-run mc3. i honestly think that will help alot
icenight89 said:
since u flashed that, try mhx superlite 5, and under developper options in settings set "force gpu rendering" to on, and re-run mc3. i honestly think that will help alot
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From reading another thread that's ICS? Call me weird but I prefer GB way over ICS ;P
ur not weird, ics may not be for everyone, but the performance improvements are evident. if u don't want to go down that route i suggest u try the faux 010v??? edition? whichever version of 010 isnt the mainlinr one, its got an overclock on the gpu. Also, see if u can get to 1.8, use system tuner to turn up the voltage at that frequency to ensure stability.
icenight89 said:
ur not weird, ics may not be for everyone, but the performance improvements are evident. if u don't want to go down that route i suggest u try the faux 010v??? edition? whichever version of 010 isnt the mainlinr one, its got an overclock on the gpu. Also, see if u can get to 1.8, use system tuner to turn up the voltage at that frequency to ensure stability.
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I was going to be it sais its not supported on all phones and I have no idea what that means sinse basically all our phones are the same and everyone sais they are running the more stable version...
Just flashed the 010u version and im booted, hopefully this helps..
In chainfire 3d I even checked all the options that supposedly "gave better performance" but it really didnt do anything..
Juicy555 said:
I was going to be it sais its not supported on all phones and I have no idea what that means sinse basically all our phones are the same and everyone sais they are running the more stable version...
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yes the have the same hardware, but the QUALITY is not the same. My phone can do 1.9 ghz, not everyone has a phone that can do that. Unless u have a really crappy one, the gaming version should run just fine for u

Anyone tried the app GameBooster?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.burakgon.gamebooster&hl=en_GB
I know that the same changes can be achieved through other (free) means , but i was wondering if anyone tried it?.. i have a friend that swears it works.
Yeah I have it on my phone and I'm using it together with Ram Booster v1.25 (need to test it without the latter to see just how much that contributes). The result is I'm playing NOVA 3 in all it's full HD glory with very little lag. The game does run a 'tad' bit slower in general but because it's uniform throughout the game it just feels like it's the way it's meant to be played.
Really? Wow thats great to hear , i might buy it to see if its really worth it.
Have you tried using autokiller , ram manager or V6 supercharger though?
Looks interesting. Would love to see if there's a free alternative though.
Okay maybe its a placebo effect , but im getting playable framerates when i use it in combination with Ram Manager pro on hard gaming, playing The Amazing Spiderman . AFAIK Gamebooster also does something similar to RMP , but it seems to be less agressive .
I also have supercharger , but i only use it to lock my launcher , nothing else.
Hey Drivenby, been a long and busy day at the studio so haven't had an opportunity to get back to you till now. Haven't used autokiller , ram manager or V6 supercharger, will have a look at them. I am using Chainfire 3D Pro however to increase the graphical quality of some of my games (like NOVA 3), but you probably figured that already.
This all shuts down all the other apps and even prevents the them from trying to boot and regains system memory.
It has its own overcloked setting after ultra gaming mode but I then can normally be change it. I really recommend this app.
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Tried it with Metal Slug 3 but got to the same bit as I usually get to before the phone starts lagging like hell (Was In Ultra Mode Aswell)
Yeah it really depends on what type of system you are running . The app does work for some games but its obviously not adding more ram or doing the developers job of optimizing a game for our specific GPU . Some games do seem to work better with Ram Manager Pro on hardgaming , rather than Gameboost.
And ultra doesnt really overclock , it just sets the governor to performance , as far as i can tell. The dev claims it lowers other processes too but i dont know how to check if thats true or not.
on my opinion , gamebooster is better that rambooster and ram manager, it decreased glitch on my phone , now it's easy to play BATMAN
drivenby said:
Yeah it really depends on what type of system you are running . The app does work for some games but its obviously not adding more ram or doing the developers job of optimizing a game for our specific GPU . Some games do seem to work better with Ram Manager Pro on hardgaming , rather than Gameboost.
And ultra doesnt really overclock , it just sets the governor to performance , as far as i can tell. The dev claims it lowers other processes too but i dont know how to check if thats true or not.
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The Governor is set to performance And cru speed changed to 1.2Ghz
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I honestly doubt that an app can overclock my stock kernel so easily.
Besides , Rom manager shows 1024 and gover performance. Nothing about 1.2ghz
This app made some games that ran smooth blotchy when I set to hardcore. I have been running v6 for a long time so it may be fighting each other for control. Hard to say. Still thanks for sharing. Sure a lot of people will like this app while others maybe not so much
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Yeah about v6, AFAIK it changes the oom kill values, which game booster does too, so there might be some conflict.
On my experience v6 is excellent to increase performance with the Android ui and multitasking, it makes everything really snappy but at a cost.
Let's say you have the regular stock launcher and have 3 o 4 widgets and a billion icons... If you have supercharge your launcher you might make it nearly impossible for the system to kill when needed.
I think that running most games, you should have no problem with this, but with the likes of recent game loft games that are known resource hogs, you really need everything the device has to offer, and while killing the launcher might make your device post game laggy for a couple of seconds, the whole point of the xperia play is to play games and if you can't do that well, it kinda defeats the purpose.
Right now I'm trying to keep the lightest configuration possible, while still getting everything I need and more.
Currently using lightning launcher, because it's fast, simple and runs with as little as 6 mb. Only one widget too. I guess I could try super charging it, but android has never killed it that I noticed, or maybe it just redraws super quickly.
Personally went back to ram manager pro, I think the ultra settings for game booster are not optimal for gaming or something, I swear I'm getting more ram but less performance, which doesn't really makes sense but whatever.
Also it has a couple of bugs that need to be ironed out. I'll check it again when the next version comes out.
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Will this work with phone with locked boot loaders but rooted? I really want to know because it said of but I have a stock kernel but I'm rooted.
LAcube said:
Will this work with phone with locked boot loaders but rooted? I really want to know because it said of but I have a stock kernel but I'm rooted.
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Yea it will work no problem
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version 1.4 is out
Could anyone make test in benchamrk? With and without this program?
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i can't actually disable it. it just doesn't work. >.>
nieohl said:
i can't actually disable it. it just doesn't work. >.>
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Yes it worked. If it can't work try reinstalling busybox.
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[Q] Xperia J poor perfomance

So... My J performs a little... bad. Most likely that I got that retarded faulty one. My RAM is never above 150mb free, mostly around 100mb. Antutu benchmark was around 4000 if I remeber correctly. Games are not performing well (and I'm not talking about über games). FreeCiv crashes quite often, probably because lack of RAM. Etc. Is it known to be like that? I'm all stock and JB. Would CM10 help me? And also, what is that actually? What does it change?
Thank you.
CM10 will help, i think that. For me, help a lot, just try, i will never back on stock, its my opinion. Try the new version FXP220 for J.
Games like Ravensword2 or other 3D working well.
I'm running stock JB and root my phone, then delete some useless applications like Facebook, Timescapes etc. Now my phone running fast & smooth, I've use cm10 for sometimes but its not as smooth as stock rom, and my first concern is the camera quality,
Stock rom has like 10x better quality.
Also stock rom has better battery performance.
not trying to have negative tendency to CM10 or something,but its just a comparison based on my experience.
If you want to use cm10 its your call :thumbup:
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There are lots of mods you can do if you would like to stay on stock install V6 SuperCharger + boost my xperia app they work really well together. Like mikey000 said uninstall or freeze unwanted apps google maps and facebook are the biggest ram eaters and as soon as you have killed them in running services they restart almost instantly. and have as little widgets as possible on the desk top will help aswell.
Depends on games too sometimes.
Subway surfers lags like hell but most wanted is really smooth for me. Poorly optimised games need better hardware
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you should try CM10 .
free up lot of memory space.
i love it CM10 <3
Fyroxman said:
So... My J performs a little... bad. Most likely that I got that retarded faulty one. My RAM is never above 150mb free, mostly around 100mb. Antutu benchmark was around 4000 if I remeber correctly. Games are not performing well (and I'm not talking about über games). FreeCiv crashes quite often, probably because lack of RAM. Etc. Is it known to be like that? I'm all stock and JB. Would CM10 help me? And also, what is that actually? What does it change?
Thank you.
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You should know that free Ram means wasted Ram.
Read this http://www.rt-embedded.com/blog/archives/linux-memory-consumption/
Now... Some are saying to use CM10, while others say the opposite.
Fyroxman said:
Now... Some are saying to use CM10, while others say the opposite.
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just give it a shot, you'll notice how after you tried
Fyroxman said:
Now... Some are saying to use CM10, while others say the opposite.
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first of all think of what you want from your phone and then decide
If u want smoothness in your ui and overall performance root you phone and deleted some unwanted bloatware system apps
if u don't care about smoothness but favour performance go with cynaogen mod as its a minimal ui and much better performance...
PS cyanogenmod is just stock pure android with lot of customization options from overclocks to performance tweaks
HIT THANKS IF IT HELPED
djranbhir said:
first of all think of what you want from your phone and then decide
If u want smoothness in your ui and overall performance root you phone and deleted some unwanted bloatware system apps
if u don't care about smoothness but favour performance go with cynaogen mod as its a minimal ui and much better performance...
PS cyanogenmod is just stock pure android with lot of customization options from overclocks to performance tweaks
HIT THANKS IF IT HELPED
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And what about V6 supercharger (or whatever it's called)? Would it help any of these options?
Fyroxman said:
And what about V6 supercharger (or whatever it's called)? Would it help any of these options?
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Those are basically performance scripts which provide various performance tweaks like ram management and all
I would suggest if ur a newbie to root and stuff u root and delete bloarware apps and see the performance if ur not satisfied flash custom rom like cyanogenmod and then if still not happy then play with scripts like v6 as scripts are bit complex
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layup23 said:
You should know that free Ram means wasted Ram.
Read this http://www.rt-embedded.com/blog/archives/linux-memory-consumption/
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That's not totally right a percentage of ram is set aside for user apps and games which are never cached by the system so the free ram is needed and heavy games need a lot of free ram to run propperly. Evan cached system processes are killed after 30 minutes by android by default so free ram will change up & down as its killing processes just to restart them again the system is wasting ram. Zepplinrox's v6 supercharger changes this as one of it's features from 30 minutes to 24 hours so the system uses less ram and has more free ram for user apps and games.
Running the scripts is not rocket science there really easy read the original thread if that seems intimidating then read the noob tutorial which goes through step by step.

[Q] Xperia J NeutronMP - how to reduce heavy lags?

Hi,
I'm using a Xperia J with Cyanogenmod 10.1(month ago installed) and the NeutronMP, because I have some 24 Bit/96kHz flacs, which only NeutronMP undestands them. The little better Quality is a reason too. But every time, when I'm using this, i get some heavy lags and most of the time listening to music isn't very nice.
Firstly, what's the reason for that? Too low CPU/RAM, low performance on sd card? Every time I've looked in task manager, it seems to be (relative) normal. In addition, i haven't got any performance hungry apps running in background.
Secondly, how can I reduce this? What would be most effective?
Thanks in advance,
Lg
CM 10.1 for J was never stable stick to CM 10 and don't use that crappy audio engine
Racer X said:
CM 10.1 for J was never stable stick to CM 10 and don't use that crappy audio engine
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Do you mean Neutron with "crappy audio engine"? I Haven't found a alternate player, so i can't choose.
I will install CM 10 later. Other things i could do?
thanks anyway.
EDIT: furthermore, i think "that crappy audio engine" is the reason, it can play all of my files.
TheBigApple said:
Hi,
I'm using a Xperia J with Cyanogenmod 10.1(month ago installed) and the NeutronMP, because I have some 24 Bit/96kHz flacs, which only NeutronMP undestands them. The little better Quality is a reason too. But every time, when I'm using this, i get some heavy lags and most of the time listening to music isn't very nice.
Firstly, what's the reason for that? Too low CPU/RAM, low performance on sd card? Every time I've looked in task manager, it seems to be (relative) normal. In addition, i haven't got any performance hungry apps running in background.
Secondly, how can I reduce this? What would be most effective?
Thanks in advance,
Lg
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I stuck with stock when I got my J, I did however flash a new kernel to allow me to overclock to 1.3ghz. Do a search for vengence kernel and flash that. Don't flash the newest one though, stick with v1.40 (later versions do not have oc facility)
You see, most people think OC actually speeds up their phone, well it doesn't. Only wastes battery, get CM 10 and use Riches Kernel or use my ROM if you want a stable and fast jellybean.
Of course overclocking speeds up the phone. You are increasing your CPU speed to the maximum that the hardware will allow. Yes there will be slightly less battery life, but that's a given. Its swings and roundabouts. Personally I find that there isn't a noticeable difference in mine (I still get 2 days on regular usage), but with the extra 300MHz I get from overclocking I no longer have the heavy lagging I had on the stock kernel. If there are no benefits from oc, how do you explain all the tests that prove you wrong?
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Thanks for your ideas, i will test both versions. But i don't know really, what exact is too less.
EDIT: btw, I've installed CM 10, and it isn't really better. But anyway, i didn't thought it would change the world.
which rom you installed CM 10.1 ?
Suxter said:
which rom you installed CM 10.1 ?
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Now I have installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10] (FXP248). I thought, i had installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-1], but i can't find the package; so it could also have been this: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-2] (FXP248).
But it really doesn't matter, what of these versions I had installed, because they have all the same (bad) performance for my NeutronMP. Right?
If you wanted to stick with cm10, I think that Rom supports the vengeance kernel so you could get the best of both worlds
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TheBigApple said:
Now I have installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10] (FXP248). I thought, i had installed this one: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-1], but i can't find the package; so it could also have been this: [projectfreexperia/download/cyanogen-mod-10-2] (FXP248).
But it really doesn't matter, what of these versions I had installed, because they have all the same (bad) performance for my NeutronMP. Right?
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so you tell us, you installed unsupported CM 10.1 / 10.2 & your phone is laggy & not working it;s functions ? :laugh: :laugh:
i loled , because you installed unsupported CM versions to your phone & says its very laggy lol
be careful next time, because maybe it'll end with soft brick or hard brick like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550937 ( phone main board change after he installed that rom )
There are many more ways to improve a phone's performance
Install A Custom Rom,
Mods like Supercharger or Crossbreeder which benfit battery life
OCing is not bad but it is also not beneficiary for the device
Suxter said:
so you tell us, you installed unsupported CM 10.1 / 10.2 & your phone is laggy & not working it;s functions ? :laugh: :laugh:
i loled , because you installed unsupported CM versions to your phone & says its very laggy lol
be careful next time, because maybe it'll end with soft brick or hard brick like this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2550937 ( phone main board change after he installed that rom )
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My phone only is lagging, when I'm using NeutronMP, never with other apps. (I don't use other performance hungry apps like games, but anyway.)
I asked this, because I've had the same problems when I've used NeutronMP with the stock android.
@ all: thanks for your replies.

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