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Is there any info,do we get new camera in Nougat,like a XZ and XP with full manual controls?
while it is mentioned in the latest video posted by sony xperia team, i don't really think it is going to be included for z5 (although our devices are equipped with the same sensor). At least, there's no announcement or indication that it is going to be included.
Jeffrey04 said:
while it is mentioned in the latest video posted by sony xperia team, i don't really think it is going to be included for z5 (although our devices are equipped with the same sensor). At least, there's no announcement or indication that it is going to be included.
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I saw that video and anouncement on Sony global and I am afraid that you in right.We can only hope so that wouldnt be like this cause same camera sensor,but I thinks that chances is minimal.
Why we get a bunch of threads like this -__-
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Why would you think it is not going to be included? Based on what?
We don't know. Chances are no one will know. But so far other devices that got the update also got these features. There are no reason to think they're not going to be included.
furkandeger said:
Why would you think it is not going to be included? Based on what?
We don't know. Chances are no one will know. But so far other devices that got the update also got these features. There are no reason to think they're not going to be included.
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Here - manual camera controls specifically for X performance:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/12...t-rollout-for-xperia-xz-xperia-x-performance/
goRt said:
Here - manual camera controls specifically for X performance:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/12...t-rollout-for-xperia-xz-xperia-x-performance/
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What about this?
Xperia X also get manual controls in Beta Nougat.Only for Z5 is unknown situation,but I think that we dont get that in update.
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Xperia X also get manual controls in Beta Nougat.Only for Z5 is unknown situation,but I think that we dont get that in update.
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I think we will get this feature, because since the Z5 came out we wanted this also z5 has the same sensor as X and XZ
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no we wont sony hates us (z5)
a00r said:
no we wont sony hates us (z5)
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To encourage us to move onto the next product.
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They must to prolong X series shipment.For that reason I am afraid we wont get that.Even if we dont get that its not a huge de except for low light/night photos.These option that we have now is enough for good daylight photography(exposure,ISO,focus mode,WB)
as much as i want it, yea, it is not provided in the nougat update
Already got the manual controls on the z5 https://youtu.be/UQjl-qamO9g no need to get them from sony lol
Hi
i have problem with RGB sensor and Tof sensor
when i go to hide menu ( *#*#7378423#*#* )
test tof sensor and RGB sensor
it shows me number (-1)
please test this and report
i hear some people have this issue and it is not only my issue
Same here, Is it a problem??
chesterr said:
Same here, Is it a problem??
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i don't know
but colors in taken pictures are not affected if those sensors not working !!
everything works fine in camera app and better than android 7 !
Have you tried sending it back?
It's a defect after all.
4rz0 said:
Have you tried sending it back?
It's a defect after all.
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no
i hope this will fix in the next update
ashkan.t said:
Hi
i have problem with RGB sensor and Tof sensor
when i go to hide menu ( *#*#7378423#*#* )
test tof sensor and RGB sensor
it shows me number (-1)
please test this and report
i hear some people have this issue and it is not only my issue
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For further issues please specify more details such as model no, fw customization and circumstances of the update (ota or else).
Anyway, i've read a bit about the issue on that 'meee tooo' jk of a forum - talk.sonymobile - the issue seems to be contained to the Dual Sim variant of the XZ p. Also the repair option (reflash) via sony pc companion isn't going to fix it.... Sadly you'll have to wait for a fix.
On a remote chance of success - try flashing another customization? Although i don't think it would fix it.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...nsor-not-reading-and-laser-focus/td-p/1272670
Sebi673 said:
For further issues please specify more details such as model no, fw customization and circumstances of the update (ota or else).
Anyway, i've read a bit about the issue on that 'meee tooo' jk of a forum - talk.sonymobile - the issue seems to be contained to the Dual Sim variant of the XZ p. Also the repair option (reflash) via sony pc companion isn't going to fix it.... Sadly you'll have to wait for a fix.
On a remote chance of success - try flashing another customization? Although i don't think it would fix it.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...nsor-not-reading-and-laser-focus/td-p/1272670
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thank you for your useful informations
i did flash my phone with newflasher ( G8142 , Customized AE )
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yes i think we should wait for the next update too . . .
Hopefully next update fix it and I don't wanna reflash another firmware tbh.
chesterr said:
Hopefully next update fix it and I don't wanna reflash another firmware tbh.
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Just got my update for Oreo. I can safely assume the issue is only on the Dual Sim variant. Here is the sensor working on my single sim
it's working on my single sim variant as well.
Did you tried making a fresh install? Not upgrading over the 7.1.1 ?
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Did you tried making a fresh install? Not upgrading over the 7.1.1 ?
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yes
i did not update with OTA
i flashed with newflasher
i think this problem is for all G8142 model
Yes it's a dual SIM variant problem. Hopefully there will be an update.
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Did you tried making a fresh install? Not upgrading over the 7.1.1 ?
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People also tried with PC Companion's 'Repair my phone' which is a holly grenade for messed up system files and no luck. Sony rushed this update. Hopefully a fix is underway.
XZ Premium Dual Sim
CE1 customization
Sensors not working.
Very poor images quality.
Please report this bug to Sony here:
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...nsor-not-reading-and-laser-focus/td-p/1272670
This issue seems to be affecting all the G8142 phones.
I'm not sure if it is caused by the sensor not working itself or the service menu app not being able to access data from it because I see no degradation in camera quality.
Forgot to attach the second screenshot
I have the exact issue with the XZP Dual (G8142) but strange enough the camera itself has no problems with autofocus, quality and color reproduction I don't know about you guys but I feel the camera shoots better pictures than it did on Nougat?
According to a Support Rep on the forums, a fix will be released in November. I'm guessing they'll also deploy it with the November security updates.
Hi Everyone,
You may have noticed that the camera on your Xperia XZ Premium Dual SIM doesn't behave according to specifications after the update to Android 8.0 (software build 47.1.A.3.254).
This is due to a software configuration related to the RGBC-IR and ToF sensors used by the camera. When these sensors don't work correctly, pictures taken under specific lighting/colour conditions will be affected. Results include slower auto focus and effects on colour rendition.
This has been solved in an updated software version that is scheduled for release in November, 2017. However, please note that Software updates are released at different times depending on the operator, market, region or country. Therefore, I am not able to give you an exact date for when a specific update will be available for your device. In addition, network operators and specific markets may choose not to use the updates for specific models.
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kot5nik said:
This issue seems to be affecting all the G8142 phones.
I'm not sure if it is caused by the sensor not working itself or the service menu app not being able to access data from it because I see no degradation in camera quality.
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You can be sure of it by turning on the camera, then pointing another camera at the sensor part. If it works you'll see 'white' bursts coming out of the sensor (infrared). But it's been tested already and the sensor is truly non functional.
@invisiblek - as you are currently the only developer out there
Factory images:
https://essential-live.herokuapp.com/developer/current-builds
Oreo beta:
https://essential-live.herokuapp.com/developer/beta-builds
Just wanted to add that in order to completely flash the factory image you will need to unlock the critical partition in fastboot before flashing:
fastboot flashing unlock_critical
wow, very cool, will give the oreo a try.
cheers
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Can someone Post His experiences please? Is it good as a Daily Driver?
wegwolv said:
Can someone Post His experiences please? Is it good as a Daily Driver?
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from the source
Known issues list (updated 11/14)
Intermittent Bluetooth connectivity issues with certain auto brands
Battery performance degradations until optimized Oreo framework complete
Occasional ANRs with certain apps
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haven't tested this myself yet.
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from the source
haven't tested this myself yet.
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Thanks for the Infos! I'm getting Mine tomorrow.
Can I flash NMJ32F on the Sprint version?
unfortunately, the stutter has not improved on Oreo. In fact, it feels worse.
Oreo is working fine for me this whole 25 minutes. I haven't tested Bluetooth yet though
lkhafra said:
Oreo is working fine for me this whole 25 minutes. I haven't tested Bluetooth yet though
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Has the camera app improved in Oreo?
Has anyone successfully tried flashing NMI81C to an unlocked device? I can't imagine there'd be a problem, but if no one has done it or seen any problems with it then I know what I'm doing when I get home tomorrow. That was the last build my bluetooth music controls worked with, so I'm pretty excited to be able to flash back to it.
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Has the camera app improved in Oreo?
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I do not think any app was updated. Unless there is some API in Oreo that would inherently improve the cam.
Does anyone know if you can flash the unlocked firmware onto the Sprint's variant of the Essential after it is carrier unlocked?
xterminater07 said:
Does anyone know if you can flash the unlocked firmware onto the Sprint's variant of the Essential after it is carrier unlocked?
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Yes it works
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Oreo running great...only found one bug dealing with wifi hotspot and not being able to select 5ghz as the band to use.
Since flashing Oreo last night I am getting excellent battery life and it appears that I may do better than I was on Android nougat. Personally I really like this phone and no the camera is not the best but for $450 this is probably the nicest phone anyone can hold in their hand at any price point. Once the dads get interested because of price and we can get a port for the Huawei camera I'm sure this camera would do very well
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Yes it works
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Nice, I will try to flash the Oreo beta of the Unlocked version to my Sprint variants. BTW, do you happen to know how to trigger the UICC unlock menu without having to have the Sprint sim in there and activate the phone? Sprint reps told me the phone is unlocked on their end, but my phone still say invalid sim because the UICC unlock menu has not been activated on the phone itself. Would flashing the unlocked firmware solves this?
Only downside for me so far on the beta is battery life.
On nougat I would go to bed with 100% battery and wake up with 100%.
On Oreo I woke up with like 97%. Keeps dying quicker during the day as well, but this is expected as they mentioned the Oreo framework wasn't optimized for battery life yet.
jasonevil said:
Yes it works
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Does anyone know if you can flash the unlocked firmware onto the Sprint's variant of the Essential after it is carrier unlocked?
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Not only does it work but definitely recommended as you will get the latest fingerprint sensor fix as well as better screen touches.
I am coming up on 24 hours into this Oreo beta, and it's my daily driver. So far, so good. Battery life seems a bit better for me, although it was great before - hard to do an apples to apples comparison though. No bluetooth issues, in fact, this seems a bit better with Plantronics Voyager/Legend than before - haven't tried in the car yet. I had one spontaneous reboot (I wasn't using it, just sitting on the desk and I noticed it rebooting) but so far, I can't see any reason not to charge ahead. The install did turn off wifi calling, I had to re-enable that. No service/signal issues (on T-Mobile in central Texas).
I've been using the face unlock feature on my Poco F1 since I got it. I'm running the latest XiaomiEU MIUI 10 Stable + Sphinx Kernel. No other mods.
Although it doesn't recognize the faces of my friends or relatives today I decided to test it with my sister who is 6 years younger and she managed to unlock it with her face.
I deleted my face data and took new one just in case and we tested again with the same result - she unlocked the phone again.
Face Unlock is not secure against relatives who look like you, test it out with your brothers/sisters just in case.
Yes, when you add your face in the settings there is a warning for tell you isn't secure.
FieryAura said:
Omfg he tells you to wait, so wait. It makes sense that they can't deploy the update on all smartphones at once, their servers would be saturated. Just wait for the update to arrive. Or simply update manually but stop spamming each tweet
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I think you are posting on the wrong thread pal. :highfive:
It's because you have changed the kernel, which disables the infrared camera driver and thus making the face detection feature less secure. Test the same on factory ROM
pepo930 said:
I've been using the face unlock feature on my Poco F1 since I got it. I'm running the latest XiaomiEU MIUI 10 Stable + Sphinx Kernel. No other mods.
Although it doesn't recognize the faces of my friends or relatives today I decided to test it with my sister who is 6 years younger and she managed to unlock it with her face.
I deleted my face data and took new one just in case and we tested again with the same result - she unlocked the phone again.
Face Unlock is not secure against relatives who look like you, test it out with your brothers/sisters just in case.
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Of course face data depends on the face so if you look alike with your sister it is really possible to unlock your phone that's why fingerprint scanner is more secured than face unlock.
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josinpaul said:
It's because you have changed the kernel, which disables the infrared camera driver and thus making the face detection feature less secure. Test the same on factory ROM
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That kernel doesn't disable IR CAMERA because it contains the driver for it!!! The only kernel available that can do that actually (as i know of)
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isn't it common knowledge that all the face unlock out there for android isn't secure? even the mate 20 pro also got fooled by other similar looking people..
Hell Guardian said:
I think you are posting on the wrong thread pal. :highfive:
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Haha thanks, edited.
josinpaul said:
It's because you have changed the kernel, which disables the infrared camera driver and thus making the face detection feature less secure. Test the same on factory ROM
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IR works, it lights up in red. I can also access the IR camera from MIUI Hidden Settings app.
There's the possibility that something else has been modified responsible for face unlock but I'll need to test.
I tried IR UNLOCK as well with sphinx kernel while covering front camera (not IR camera) and it's working phone unlocks... So no Front basic camera is working to unlock
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Yes, my older brother opened it. I was taken aback, I am using the official stable roms.
Good thing I don't look closer to my relatives.
I also faced an issue where my phone can unlock by my brother and evey sister
Yesterday,miui 10 already rolled and I get updated. Technically, I and my brother already tested the Face unlock on miui 9.6.25 it definitely can't unlocked by my brother. After miui 10, my brother can easily unlocked my phone within 1 second,I was shocked we tested so many times and it's show same result. Even though my sister also can unlock it within one second,it is ridiculous.
The Face unlock become worst after miui 10 update.
Hello, does anyone have fingerprint issues? My XZ1 never missed a beat. This one hardly works. Wondering if it's software or hardware problem?
Thank you
same problem here. sometimes works well, sometimes not at all.
Hmm I wonder if the Xperia 1 users have the issue
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zippy01 said:
Hmm I wonder if the Xperia 1 users have the issue
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yup it does.
there is a loooooong thread about it at official forum.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-1/WHY-THE-FINGERPRINT-SCANNER-IS-SO-BAD/td-p/1378272
yyiimm said:
yup it does.
there is a loooooong thread about it at official forum.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-1/WHY-THE-FINGERPRINT-SCANNER-IS-SO-BAD/td-p/1378272
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Thanks for the link I think it's solved now. Still not as good as the XZ1 scanner but I found that my thumb was slightly angled under normal circumstances so I added more prints and so far so good
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As far as I can tell you have two unlock states. You can't use the power button to wake and then use the fingerprint sensor to unlock you can only use the fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock.
If you use the power button to wake then you have to use the pin method to unlock. This is what I've found.
I've found it's usually if the sensor gets dirty, which seems to be quite a lot. a quick clean usually gets it working straight away
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Hello, does anyone have fingerprint issues? My XZ1 never missed a beat. This one hardly works. Wondering if it's software or hardware problem?
Thank you
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I put my finger along the side of the phone while making my scans, for me it works almost every time now.
Previously I had my finger on a line away from the side using my thumb nail to nail direction now I use from top to middle which gives a better result
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It's funny because mine is very good (9210 model) and I came from OnePlus 7t pro where I hated the in screen finger print reader
Must have been firmware dependent as mine is almost perfect now since upgrade to android 10. Anyone else have problems?
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Try cleaning settings cache. Also system settings storage app cache.
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Try cleaning settings cache. Also system settings storage app cache.
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New to the device. This is great advice. Thanks
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Clear your hand and the sensors place on the phone. I have no problems with it.
The latest android 11 update appears to turn fingerprint registration and usage into a better experience....
I've had problems with previous updates either lost functionality all together or sporadic usage.
Its nore more accurate than I ever remember.
Having lived with this for almost 2 years it looks like a combo of hardware and software. IE the software driver doesn't work fast enough to recognise the fingerprint and will occasionally miss a beat. I re-program after updating firmware updates and depending on how big the update is/ Security based and find I have to wipe fingerprints and PIN/Password too, for the fingerprint sensor to be re-discovered and then use the pre-setup program app which I have to use slowly 2 seconds between detections otherwise the app fails to detect the sensor and stops working again so I have to reboot the phone to re-detect and start programming the next fingerprint.
This handset has a bad fingerprint driver/app for the latest Android me thinks.