Like most, I like my phone rooted, with xposed and all the nice stuff roots comes with. Also it seems to make the Flex2 much more usable in regard of battery, adblock, runtime etc... BUT the MM update seems to be really good, too.
So, my question the people who have used both is:
What has the better overall experience ( battery runtime, performance, features, overall feeling ):
- 5.1.1 root with amplify / greenify / smart network / adblock
- 6.0.1 stock
Also, what are the alternatives for non-root regarding adblock in chrome?
Thanks & Greetz
6.0.1 here hands down. For Adblock use ABP
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Adguard works perfect. None of the issues you get with ABP without root.
I also prefer Marshmallow to rooted 5.1
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MM has a realy good battery life and it's very smooth
But what about thermal throttling??
I love 6.0.1 interface,it is so smooth that all the apps seem like they're almost always running in the background.
On the other hand,because of the throttling it lags very bad even in Angry Birds 2.FREAKING ANGRY BIRDS 2!!!
Is there any fix to this? On Marshmallow?? I just wanna change the thermal config file.
And btw I'd like to know how the camera on 5.1.1 with root modded with jpeg quality set to 100 compares with the marshmallow one.Furthermore,on 6.0.1 I can't see 1080p60fps option.
I like to have a permanent full screen without on screen buttons wasting space or being accidentally touched. Root and lmt pie controls is a must for me.
Since root doesnt solve all overheat problems and from Time to Time still changes in Core Settings appear i can live with lagfree 6.0 .. Battery life is okay but the kernel still ramps cpu up too agressive and throttles too agressive too so... Actually android 6 with managable kernel would be nice.
Can't live without Root because of poor internal memory...
hi, can F501L 5.1.1 be rooted?
I dont know if I return to 5.1.1 rooted for thermal because I'm on 6.0 and with Pokemon Go the temperature is horrible and my game very laggy when I play more 10mn, normal ?
Edit : after 10mn the proco was at 50C and i feel the hard throttling at 50C too (balance both 49/50C). Horrible lag
Conclusion, LG G Flex 2 with MM is a wonderful phone for ONLY using social media apps, browsing, facebook-ing, calling, SMS-ing or watching video WITHOUT GAMES. Basically I do not play GAMES at all...so totally no problem for me. It is QUICK and SMOOTH.
Little feedback, Pokemon Go with thermal engine change, no lag but more temperature. I up until 57C and have warning message but no lag when i was at 50C
Shuyin10 said:
Little feedback, Pokemon Go with thermal engine change, no lag but more temperature. I up until 57C and have warning message but no lag when i was at 50C
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limit the max gpu speed, it will help keep the temp down
Yes but like CPU clock, the gpu always reboot and back to max.... It's impossible to play with frequency with this kernel....
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Shouldnt it be possible to Change Files in /sys Folder with adb and Pull and push Files? Or is This Impossible on This Device? Or will it even Brick this the Device?
This folders contain a lot of Information about cpu and kernel Related Stuff or am I wrong?
Is There a usable and stable Way to Control our devices cpu/GPU yet?
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Is There a usable and stable Way to Control our devices cpu/GPU yet?
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Not without unlocked bootloader. (custom kernel)
*Rage against LG increases
Who knows, flex2 with android 7 maybe will fix a lot of Things for us - when it arrives for us before Smartphones became obsolete..
If you guys can dd partitions with MM then you could always modify the system image to what you want then put back on phone like I did for Sprint G4, see my Sig. I even managed to offer more CPU/GPU choices during boot without root and without bl unlock.
How?
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*Rage against LG increases
Who knows, flex2 with android 7 maybe will fix a lot of Things for us - when it arrives for us before Smartphones became obsolete..
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Do you really think LG will bring us android 7 nougat for flex 2? It wont happen. Support is nearly gone at the moment and this is problematic phone(overheating etc) what they obviously try to forget.
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i got only 18k score on antutu and officially it should be 25k any possible reason ?
many possible reasons. one is maybe you dont know how to bench properly(most people dont know how), but probably your cpu is warm when you are starting to bench and its hiiting the thermal throttle temp. at which point your phone reduces your cpu speed to cool off. this ends up reducing your scores. try cooling your cpu down first before bencing, and set your max and liw cpu speed to the same top speed.
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many possible reasons. one is maybe you dont know how to bench properly(most people dont know how), but probably your cpu is warm when you are starting to bench and its hiiting the thermal throttle temp. at which point your phone reduces your cpu speed to cool off. this ends up reducing your scores. try cooling your cpu down first before bencing, and set your max and liw cpu speed to the same top speed.
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Probably on 100% stock too lol..
Put phone in fridge to cool. Run benchmark in the fridge and BAM! score over 30000..lol.. always work for me. :laugh:
Something must be wrong with your device. Better see if you can get a replacement. Wouldn't want to see lower numbers.
I'm kidding
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Something must be wrong with your device. Better see if you can get a replacement. Wouldn't want to see lower numbers.
I'm kidding
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i let my device cool and switched to art and i got 25551 score is it due to art?
i bought it without warranty i cant get a replacement
25k is ok for a Stock Nexus 5 without any extra Mods ( eg. custom kernel + OC, root, disabled apps which lurk in the background etc.. ). My Nexus 5 can go up to 35k with my slightly optimized Stock ROM, custom kernel and OC @ 2,65Ghz.
Most the time I´ll reach 32k which still is ok but I don´t really care about benchmarks. If your phone is rooted, check with eg. ES Task Manager, which apps run most the time and try to disable stuff you don´t need.
If the phone runs hot for whatever reasons, you may notice the lower score but I have my doubts you would actually notice a performance decrease in real life while using the phone with regular apps ( eg. web browser, whatsapp etc.. )
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i let my device cool and switched to art and i got 25551 score is it due to art?
i bought it without warranty i cant get a replacement
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Got 29k stock, no root or unlocked, will see when i will get 4.4.3
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25k is ok for a Stock Nexus 5 without any extra Mods ( eg. custom kernel + OC, root, disabled apps which lurk in the background etc.. ). My Nexus 5 can go up to 35k with my slightly optimized Stock ROM, custom kernel and OC @ 2,65Ghz.
Most the time I´ll reach 32k which still is ok but I don´t really care about benchmarks. If your phone is rooted, check with eg. ES Task Manager, which apps run most the time and try to disable stuff you don´t need.
If the phone runs hot for whatever reasons, you may notice the lower score but I have my doubts you would actually notice a performance decrease in real life while using the phone with regular apps ( eg. web browser, whatsapp etc.. )
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Overclock less, it'll heat up less and get a better score. I get 39k without cooling at 2419MHz, past 40k if I were to cool.
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25k is ok for a Stock Nexus 5 without any extra Mods ( eg. custom kernel + OC, root, disabled apps which lurk in the background etc.. ). My Nexus 5 can go up to 35k with my slightly optimized Stock ROM, custom kernel and OC @ 2,65Ghz.
Most the time I´ll reach 32k which still is ok but I don´t really care about benchmarks. If your phone is rooted, check with eg. ES Task Manager, which apps run most the time and try to disable stuff you don´t need.
If the phone runs hot for whatever reasons, you may notice the lower score but I have my doubts you would actually notice a performance decrease in real life while using the phone with regular apps ( eg. web browser, whatsapp etc.. )
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which kernel do u use?
I use Elemental X : http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/orig-development/kernel-elementalx-n5-0-23-t2519607
I don´t use any extra options ( eg. the wake gestures ), only the slightly cooler color Mod because my screen has a slight yellowish tint without it:good:
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which kernel do u use?
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Im coming from a Moto x 2014 and was amazing and 0 lag.
No i have an 32 gigs s6 but i fighting with the lag.
Sometimes runs smoothly and sometimes lags every time,
I get into recovery a wipe cache and nothing, any idea to fix this?
I have the new 5.1.1 france rom and my model is 920F
Regards.
Can't help you as I don't have the 5.1.1 ROM yet, but have no lag on 5.0.2. The other thing is, lag is subjective. The Moto X 2014 certainly does lag on certain actions such as facebook etc.
If you haven't already, after a ROM update it's always usefull to factory reset if you've backed everything up.
5.1.1 runs nearly equal to 5.0.2 on power saving mode .. mainly the effect is on scrolling. I always used 5.0.2 on power saving as it would suffice
Ok, ill try a factory reset again in 5.1.1
Thankyou
I had minimal lag and decent battery life on 5.0.2. Upgraded to 5.1.1 and that all changed. Scrolling lag, terrible stand by drain... And I factory reset after upgrading.
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Sher The Love said:
I had minimal lag and decent battery life on 5.0.2. Upgraded to 5.1.1 and that all changed. Scrolling lag, terrible stand by drain... And I factory reset after upgrading.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Can you test if this app work on 5.1.1?
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
Can you test if this app work on 5.1.1?
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Although it's only $1.50, I don't want to spend money on an app just to test it.
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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Sher The Love said:
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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Same observation here. The new Material theme makes the scrolling worse on 5.1.1 and also a few other themes does the same detriment to UI fluidity. I had downloaded like 12 different themes and now deleting one by one after testing them out and keeping only those which do not affect fluidity...
I'm not even using Samsung Launcher.. Nova Launcher ftw
No lag out of the ordinary on 5.0.2... Haven't received the new OTA yet
I've found the same - themes can cause noticeable lag.
Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
Sher The Love said:
Although it's only $1.50, I don't want to spend money on an app just to test it.
Also, reverting to the stock theme instead of the new "material" theme has seemed to help my lag issue a bit.
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It also has a free ver of limited only freeze 6 system apps.
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Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
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Thanks for testing this as my S6 duos not yet received 5.1.1 and since xposed not supported S6 yet the Greenify isn't working out fully on S6. Package Disabler Pro is the only one who can replace Greenify now until xposed supports 64bit OS.
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It also has a free ver of limited only freeze 6 system apps.
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Thanks for testing this as my S6 duos not yet received 5.1.1 and since xposed not supported S6 yet the Greenify isn't working out fully on S6. Package Disabler Pro is the only one who can replace Greenify now until xposed supports 64bit OS.
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What is worth disabling besides what the regular application manager allows?
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Sher The Love said:
What is worth disabling besides what the regular application manager allows?
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Bloatware installed by Samsung. Some of those apps you will never use actually start themselves in the background. Just go see by yourself in your running apps manager.
The app also help you to debloat by colouring known "useless" apps (by useless, I mean nor the phone or the system need them to operate properly)
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Package Disabler Pro totally works with 5.1.1. I only have a weird bug with Hangouts.apk, but you can disable this app via the traditional manager so thats not a problem.
About the lags and so, i also have some from time to time. I'd say the overall butterness feeling is lower than what i used to have with my Nexus 5 (+ franco kernel and a great rom). I noticed some real laggy actions with both 5.0.2 and 5.1.1.
BTW Knox is a real pain in the ass. Denying you all hardware warranty just because you changed the ROM or recovery is lame.
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It is not lame as custem ROM can cause overheating or to high voltage on some sensitive parts that can easily burn and then when phone is usuble but some part doesn't work there is no certen way of determining how it got broken in the first palace and it is more easily blamed on root and custom recovery's...
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custem ROM can cause overheating or to high voltage on some sensitive parts that can easily burn and then when phone is usuble but some part doesn't work there is no certen way of determining how it got broken in the first palace and it is more easily blamed on root and custom recovery's...
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I HAD to click "thanks" for this, you actually made me smile. Sure, sure, custom roms do burn phones ;-p
Well, i guess you said that seriously. Modern CPUs in our phones (just as those in our computers since the Core series) are very well protected against oveheating and will nearly NEVER burn or damage themselves nor the circuitry around. You may unlock FSB or change voltage as you want if you changed the kernel (not your average root user though), HW will always be protected since the device will stop operating itself immediately if it is too hot. Only thing that may happen if your not-so-average root user is also stupid enough, is not being able to reboot the device himself if risky settings (like very low voltage) are set to boot with without testing. Big deal, since you have access to a custom recovery to change that anyway.
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I HAD to click "thanks" for this, you actually made me smile. Sure, sure, custom roms do burn phones ;-p
Well, i guess you said that seriously. Modern CPUs in our phones (just as those in our computers since the Core series) are very well protected against oveheating and will nearly NEVER burn or damage themselves nor the circuitry around. You may unlock FSB or change voltage as you want if you changed the kernel (not your average root user though), HW will always be protected since the device will stop operating itself immediately if it is too hot. Only thing that may happen if your not-so-average root user is also stupid enough, is not being able to reboot the device himself if risky settings (like very low voltage) are set to boot with without testing. Big deal, since you have access to a custom recovery to change that anyway.
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I tend to stay away from root as possible as I am not really experienced enough ... And I hardly find a good tutorial that is really conclusive ... On the other hand every phone I had was chosen because I liked all of the aspects of it ... So I really never had the need for root ... And not to mention one experience when one time I did root ... And it was with S4 ... And in the end it was extremely close to having phone that dose not work ...and bad experience in all that is actually that phone was working as it should before rooting and after it never really did work good ...
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Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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fdorr said:
Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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Pretty choppy indeed. I guess that depends what you are used to though. Considering the hardware there is no reason to worry, this slugginess will probably be cured soon (via samsung updates or custom roms). But i never suspected my good old nexus 5 would actually be more fluid even at start.
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Going back to the subject. ... scrolling is awful. Try to scroll for example in Google play
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I just did. It is working fine for me. Using Material Theme and 5.1.1
So I been following the Pixel and Pixel XL forum for a while now, it seems like xposed and rom developement is either slow or in the case of xposed framework none existence. I think the S7 edge under Marshmallow will be the best phone with the best android firmware for a while... so to those who would want to update to the latest and greatest, realized that xposed might not even reach Samsung Nougat for a long time.
The next best thing I found was the Oneplus 3t which have MM out of the box, however you can opt for installation of Nougat if you like. CM13 is still available and there are dev for it. other than that, I dont see any other phone beating the S7 edge Exynos version.
Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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Have to disagree. Running Nought on a freshly reset phone was the best move for me. Very snappy. I recommend the upgrade.
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then u never played with xposed....
Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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I have! I've tried both vanilla, and a custom rom with all the trimmings.
Agree i went back to mm after 3 months of N since beta, yes N is a bit snappier but for the cost of bad battery life, mm is still fast and remember s7 edge has a fast hardware so its very unlikely to face lags etc.
Mm is fast reliable and xposed is ready to be used !
If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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From testing multiple ROMs
Marshmallow - Best standby time, most editable
Nougat - Worse battery life, smoother (not necessarily faster).
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I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
junear said:
I am using the t mobile nougat rom on my Verizon s7 edge, and the battery life is better than mm!
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Snapdragon model = No idea about Exynos March firmware battery life.
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If Xposed it holding you back, you should rethink the advantages. GraceUI is prettier and has a lot of nifty little additions, Android N itself has some and overall its snappier.
I used to be an Xposed hog. But I could find alternatives for pretty much everything. I miss Gravitybox-level customisations but, solid custom roms such as Renovate make up for it! For Snapprefs, I use Casper, adblock by Adaway, etc..
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there are xposed modules that could save you money, someone in here already listed it, so I wont mention it again, trying to keep it discrete so it could last a while. Grace UI is also on the Note 7 rom, which i am running from Rennovate, so I am not missing anything.
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WIll you Google account not be banned when using Casper?
I love snapprefs, not because of the saving/uploading/filter features, but mostly beacuse blocking preload and background loading of stories etc, Snapchat is a real battery hogger and has taken the wrong direction.
I also wanna update to N, but some of the xposed features are holding me back
Snapprefs
Youtube background play
AppsOpsXposed
Greenify
MinMinGuard
Rootcloack
Xtouchwiz
I need the rootcloack for my banking apps, can not login without root.
Are there any options?
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Casper can be used with a new Google account. It hasn't banned me for anything so far. But make sure you don't login to Casper. Use it as a root session. This means you still need Snapchat to be installed. Plus Casper doesn't support chat function yet... So you can't completely replace Snapchat either.
YouTube background play can be done via a cracked apk. I think OGtube? Honestly not sure about this.
Appops is not something I've used, but Android 7 allows you to modify permissions and I use a firewall AFwall+.
Greenify works completely fine without Xposed. I've been very happy with it.
Minmin.. AdAway does the job for me very well.
Rootcloack is similar to Magisk. You can get past safety net with it.
Xtouchwiz has no equivalent but there are many customizations baked into the ROM I use-Renovate. And I think Superman ROM has equally or more.
I'm sure others will have more alternatives!
Nougat on s7 edge really transforms the phone in all aspects. The UI is prettier, snapier, smoother, with more options. The whole experience of using the phone is improved by 100%.
As regards battery life, at least my Exynos variant, is much much better when it comes to battery. The doze mode works better, and in general I get fantastic SoT.
Maybe nougat is optimized currently for the Exynos processor...? and maybe in some further updates the nougat firmware will be improved for the SnapDragon variant models ?
I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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I know it doesn't help at all saying it, but with Nougat I have significantly more battery life. I'm talking 1 to 2+ hours more! The other day I was watching a YouTube playlist after work and fell asleep. I woke up the next day to the phone still playing videos. Battery was at 2% and I had 10h and 6m of SoT. I have 100+ apps installed. Not rooted.
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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Wow thats really great, any battery saving apps or settings ? I.e. greenify
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No, none at all. My only explanation would that I don't use social media apps, except for the occasional tweet and some lurking on G+ and Reddit.
Chord_Hugo87 said:
then u never played with xposed....
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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Some people like their phone bug free and secure.
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
Just to Admit I regret didn't buy this phone...
I am looking for S8 and hope to buy it
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some people dont know how to install xposed...I never had a problem with bugs or getting hack or getting my identity stolen...stop visiting pron site on your phone.
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I never had problems get "hacked" either. But it is a fact that your rooted phone (and definitely with Xposed Framework) are more prone to attacks and other kind of malicious things, while bugs also happen far more. It's not even a debate you can have, as it's a well-known fact in the Android universe, which is also the reason many devs don't recommend or support it on their rom. The logcat is filled bugs, even though you don't see them, they're there and both slow down phone, drain battery and cause other problems and now or then bugs will happens that will be irritating like apps crashs.
We could just as well argue for the earth being round or flat, where you were on the flat side.
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
mine is showing same behaviour since a few days ago, ive enabled sync and enabled cm email, others things ive done is installing tumblr, i think some apps that works on 2nd plane arent managed well with ram autokill and somewhat with persistent services.
ill clean flash and disable sync forever [emoji14]
other thing ive noticed is other storage is permanent oversized and the phone cant really know whar is this
Pure CAF @ crLOS14.1
Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
I used to have that problem last year. I kind of fixed it after I formated the memory while I was trying to have F2FS. I knew i'd lost everything in the memory so I did a backup and trough TWRP changed the partition to F2FS and it helped a lot. A friend's tab had the same problem and he fixed it that way
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Is it insanely hot when it slows down? If that's the case it's overheating for some reason.
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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No... It stalls, it really seems iowait...
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Or maybe it went out of memory? Although I doubt it. One thing that comes to mind is mpdecision, sometimes it shuts down all cores except 0 and won't switch them back online, forcing you to do it manually or somehow wake it up. Have you tried keeping tabs on your cores with a monitor app? Anything mpdecision-rated in logcat when the crawls happen?
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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What I do is that I clean flash about every six months, generally upgrading to a higher version of android (stopped after 6.0.1 tho cuz of xposed), after backing my media. Once I restore that after the flash, I always have more space available than pre flash and it feels a lot faster. Might be a placebo, might not. But is it stupid if it works?
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Problem is, i'm starting to believe it's tied to N7.x
yossi_s1 said:
I was on Catacalysm until nougat, which can be considered stock. didn't have speed issues then.
when I flashed nougat all 3 roms i flashed had annoying lag which was not acceptable.
eventually me and other users discovered it was happening because of the memory filling up.
apparently the phone needs quite a bit of free memory to work well. tweaking memory management through kernel editor solved it for me.
I can't tell for sure if that's your issue but u can give it a try.
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Your findings are consistent with mine, it seems the device is running out of memory and is trying to swap out heavy apps to make do, namely chrome and facebook. While it's doing that, it's slow as hell. I've also had launcher re-start, like if the OOM had it killed.
Which settings did you tweak ? LowMemoryKiller ?
Yep, LMK set to exterminate.
I wonder what the original configuration was, not only for LMK but also CPU gov etc, Because honestly I think that even after tweaks it was still better on stock.
In general nougat doesn't really add much for me, M was great, I was in a hurry to upgrade because I had play services battery drain bug on M. That was terrible.
Also I noticed mine is thermal throttling really quickly, I don't know if its normal or not. I've been thinking about improving cooling with a mod but at this point my N5 is on its way out. In november I'll close 4 years with it and I'll get a new device (maybe 1+5?)
Memory issue
daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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It's all because of memory,
3/4 cores are going offline and online regularly, but sometimes cores won't go online which create frizzing untill cores get online,
For solution you should be first root then install kernel editor you like and edit core to performance or high performance,
That solved my problems.
daedric said:
I can't really put my finger in the cause, it seems to follow all N roms (though most are based on LOS, so..)
Sometimes the device crawls to a standstill, until i'm able to close all open apps, and then it gets snappy again.
I would consider this device at least as fast as my M7, but although the One is slower in general than the N5, it never gets slower...
I don't have weird apps installed, the most crazy ones are the Facebook messenger and chrome, the rest is google apps and whatsapp...
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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What gapps are you using? Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition. You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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Using pico or Beans mini will let you put most of your Google apps on the user partition and not the system partition.
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And the advantage would be ?
You could also try an AOSP based ROM instead of a LOS based ROM like Krexus, Pure Nexus or Tesla
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I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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And the advantage would be ?
I tried PureNexus, but it hasn't been update recently. I also suspect of a bug in LOS, since it seems to follow all roms, no matter the builder or kernel.
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Using small gapps packages frees up space in /system, I never use full gapps packages on my Nexus 5 and I've never experienced this slow down you're having.
Pure Nexus just updated on May 13th, Tesla updated today. If you choose to flash one of them, be sure to wipe system in advanced wipe as well as data and caches before flashing
Pure Nexus https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=6733682732989
Tesla
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=529152257862726717&_utm_source=1-2-2
I don't think the suggestions in the last few comments will help. I'm pretty sure it's mainly a memory management settings issue.
if you want here's my profile in synapse (kernel settings editor you can find on google play). I'm currently testing it for a few days and it seems good so far but I still need to test it under really heavy load.
I'm running nitrogenOS with the kernel that comes with it. if you run something else you may have to tweak it a little.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1zh08kbh8hoyprl/test2.tgz?dl=0
Hi, well I'm kinda new here in Xperia Z5, although I've managed already to unlock my bootloader and flashed a few Firmwares and ROM's but still can't really decide which is which. Currently I'm an "Android super-user" which I spend 5 to 8hrs on my phone (YouTube, Games particularly heavy graphic fps, Social media apps, Browsing, Spotify). Now my question which is the best and stable Android version you use in your own experience? Marshmallow or Nougat? Also ROM's and kernels or even Xposed or Magisk modules, tweaks, etc. in play as well?
I really like getting updated software Nougat but it seems unstable and few developments for example Xposed (but we all know sooner or later Xposed will die). Also wakelocks are killing me in Nougat, very difficult to manage those pesky wakelocks here and there.
The problem with Marshmallow is that, it's outdated and performance isn't as great as Nougat (buttery smooth experience).
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